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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: BFG on October 06, 2012, 06:46:21 AM
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A good friend of mine gave me the "okay" to publicly post one of his clients pre contest "cycles" for this past Mr Olympia 2012 as long as I kept it anonymous (obviously).
I thought the Getbig crowd would appreciate this information, as usual.
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I. 16-8 weeks out
500mg sustanon ED
300mg deca EOD
300mg eq EOD
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout
100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout
200mg TNE 90 mins pre workout
2. 8-4 weeks out
200mg test propionate ED
100mg TNE 3x per day
100mg tren acetate ED
600mg tren enanthate EW
200mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
3. 4-1 Weeks Out
150mg TNE 3x per day
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
50mg halotestin ED
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
4. 1-0 weeks out
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
60mg halotestin ED
100mg dbol ED
100mg anadrol ED
10iu hulamog with each meal
*diuretics not included.
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This is the same cycle they had posted in MD last year ,, BS....
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GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.............. ::)
GTFO
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This is the same cycle they had posted in MD last year ,, BS....
Please re post it then.
I have a hard time believing a bodybuilding magazine was endorsing over a gram of trenbolone every week.
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My liver hurts just reading that shit. Anyone's ass would feel like a pin cushion.
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500 mg test ED, 100mg d-Bol and 100mg A-bomb ??? Couldn't read further.
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FUCK OFF ASSHOLES. He knows what the fuck he's saying. This was not posted in MD last year. That cycle looked nothing like this one.
Thanks BFG. Please stick around/
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btw............. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X all drugs
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A good friend of mine gave me the "okay" to publicly post one of his clients pre contest "cycles" for this past Mr Olympia 2012 as long as I kept it anonymous (obviously).
I thought the Getbig crowd would appreciate this information, as usual.
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I. 16-8 weeks out
500mg sustanon ED
300mg deca EOD
300mg eq EOD
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout
100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout
200mg TNE 90 mins pre workout
2. 8-4 weeks out
200mg test propionate ED
100mg TNE 3x per day
100mg tren acetate ED
600mg tren enanthate EW
200mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
3. 4-1 Weeks Out
150mg TNE 3x per day
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
50mg halotestin ED
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
4. 1-0 weeks out
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
60mg halotestin ED
100mg dbol ED
100mg anadrol ED
10iu hulamog with each meal
*diuretics not included.
see, if even with all that shit bodybuilders are not droping like flies everywhere, makes me think Im good as ever with my 400mg test/week "cycle". Maybe i should even up de dosage a little. hell yea.
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I wish BFG would post here more. I KNOW i'm not the only one here that would like that. I really, really, really enjoy reading his threads / posts. :-) :-) :-)
You da man, BFG !!!
Curiou though ... why in god's name would he keep the dbol in, in his final weeks ?? Even being that lean, wouldn't the dbol still cause a little water bloat ? Or do the other things { not mentioned, I noticed }, such as Adex / Letro take care of all that ?? That's the only thing that seems out of place. Halo, Anadrol, Primo ... that all looks VERY good to me.
And one more thing ... I would need a pretty " comfortable " dose of Xanax to get through that cycle ! Wow !
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My liver hurts just reading that shit. Anyone's ass would feel like a pin cushion.
That's the least of their asses' worries compared to the prerequisite boning session by every single one of the judges.
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My Mistake,, this is the one I thought it was, it was in a year or so back issue .
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That's the least of their asses' worries compared to the prerequisite boning session by every single one of the judges.
lol
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Lol.....another GH 15 in the making. And he already has a few idiots defenDing him, without a single shred of evidence that he doesn't just make up the things he posts. History repeats itself...lolol
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Terrifying, but wouldn't surprise me.
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I wish BFG would post here more. I KNOW i'm not the only one here that would like that. I really, really, really enjoy reading his threads / posts. :-) :-) :-)
You da man, BFG !!!
Curiou though ... why in god's name would he keep the dbol in, in his final weeks ?? Even being that lean, wouldn't the dbol still cause a little water bloat ? Or do the other things { not mentioned, I noticed }, such as Adex / Letro take care of all that ?? That's the only thing that seems out of place. Halo, Anadrol, Primo ... that all looks VERY good to me.
And one more thing ... I would need a pretty " comfortable " dose of Xanax to get through that cycle ! Wow !
The AI's along with fat burners and diuretics were not shown to me.
This is literally the first page in a document attached to an email sent to my friend's client for prep. Second page had AI's and fat burners with corresponding timeframe of usage, 3rd page had diuretics, plasma expanders, etc...I figured most would care about the anabolics and peptides, AI's and diuretics are pretty much the exact same for everbody from the national level on up.
To answer your specific question, in combination with enough AI's and diuretics will counteract the water retention from the aromatizing oral steroids yet the competitor can still reap the benefit of the "fullness" they combine. A large dosage of dianabol and/or anadrol as well as a good plasma expander and maybe some viagra can make a huge difference come show day.
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cool beans, i gotta up the dose
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100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout
100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout
::) ::)
That had me a bit confused too.
I guess he's saying 100mg's of each, every day, 90 mins prior to training. The "90 mins prior" timing seems irrelevant but it doesn't hurt anything.
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steroid use is idiotic...
i'm gonna go smoke a joint
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60mg halotestin daily.
yeah right.
so, wow, they use test e until couple weeks out and then change to orals and tren right before contest, how revolutionary ::)
and they use chinese gh.
this could be straight from gh15s pen
yeah, i dont believe the 100mgs dbol all at once with anadrol all at once just before training.
this is ridiculous dosages, esp the upper part 16-8 weeks out.
this stack , i bet a mr o competitor would know smarter than that.
Do you believe bodybuilders competing in the Mr. Olympia use low or moderate dosages of steroids?
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no but comeon these oral doses are too much.
do you think dexter jackson uses more than 2 gramms weekly?
I dont know what Dexter Jackson uses, I don't know him. There are some pros who use much less due to great genetics, there are some pros who use much more due to bad genetics and then there are some pros who use tons of drugs and have great genetics (and those are usually the ones that win shows).
100mg dbol and 100mg anadrol for a few weeks is not going to kill anyone and its a common combination. Furthermore, as of late, a lot of the "gurus" have been preaching taking larger doses of oral steroids on workout days only, prior to a workout rather than everyday in a smaller amount.
You stated something to the effect of a "Mr O competitor would know better than to use those dosages" (paraphrasing). What on earth does that mean? Last time I checked pro bodybuilding was about winning, not having a healthy liver.
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The AI's along with fat burners and diuretics were not shown to me.
This is literally the first page in a document attached to an email sent to my friend's client for prep. Second page had AI's and fat burners with corresponding timeframe of usage, 3rd page had diuretics, plasma expanders, etc...I figured most would care about the anabolics and peptides, AI's and diuretics are pretty much the exact same for everbody from the national level on up.
To answer your specific question, in combination with enough AI's and diuretics will counteract the water retention from the aromatizing oral steroids yet the competitor can still reap the benefit of the "fullness" they combine. A large dosage of dianabol and/or anadrol as well as a good plasma expander and maybe some viagra can make a huge difference come show day.
Informative as ALWAYS, BFG. :-) :-) Thank you very much for the reply as well as your time here at GetBig.
A lot of inexperienced and uneducated people in this thread, sadly. You all { well, to be fair, not all of you } think BFG is making things up ? That he's the next GH15 ? That these dosages couldn't possible be correct ? Amongst many other things !
Quick question ... have any of you actually stepped on stage ? I have ! Or do know of anyone who has ? And, no, the local / regional stage doesn't quite count. These are PROFESSIONAL bb'ers competing in the big show. The big show of ALL big shows, at that. Do you think they are going to hold back on dosages ?? Have you seen the amount of muscle these guys hold in REAL LIFE ?? I have ! These dosages are SPOT ON ! Hell, look online ! There are various " gym rats " using these dosages ! LOLOLOL !!
BFG, you are on hell of a guy ! Even more one hell of a guy for coming to GetBig and sharing your info. I can't help but respect that. I send you a pm one day ... never heard back from, which is understandable. Was looking for some critique regarding my physique, potential, etc., etc. Would be honored if you were to give your opinion and such. At any rate, thank you again for the info. I have been reading a lot on plasma expanders lately and, WOW, unbelievably amazing what they can do !
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These dosage seem outrageous.........SEEM. Truth is, this sport (yes I do consider bb a sport) is outrageous. Winning trophies at even the local level is put before health. Yes, some genetic anomalies like dexter can get by and be very dominant with the genetics and lower dosages..........for a time. There does however reach a time when the body ceases to respond as it previously did and the dosages are forced upward. This cycle does look extreme which makes it all the more believable. PS: YES, pros do use chinese gh. BFG is clearly in the know.
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60mg halotestin daily.
yeah right.
so, wow, they use test e until couple weeks out and then change to orals and tren right before contest, how revolutionary ::)
and they use chinese gh.
this could be straight from gh15s pen
yeah, i dont believe the 100mgs dbol all at once with anadrol all at once just before training.
this is ridiculous dosages, esp the upper part 16-8 weeks out.
this stack , i bet a mr o competitor would know smarter than that.
No ... just ... no. First and foremost, I love the screename. And, no, i'm not being sarcastic. :-) :-)
Secondly, 60 mg's of Halo per day, although quite toxic, is MORE than plausible. TRUST ME ! There are a few { and only a few, thank god } people I know that take more than 60 per day. The effects, physically speaking, are pretty incredible, to say the least !
And 100 mg's of both Dbol and Adrol per day is not even remotely dangerous. Are you fucking kidding me ??? Again, look online, my friend. There are PLENTY of fuckers out there doing 300 mg's plus of Dbol PER DAY and 200 mg's plus of Adrol per day as well. And together !! Insane, isn't it ?? I remember reading about a guy doing 500 mg's of Dbol a day. Didn't last long, of course, but he did it ! Hahahaha !! Besides, inj. Dbol and Adrol is where it's at ! I LOVE the feeling you get while working out ! Whew ! You feel like you're going to implode, but you don't give a fuck ! At one point, I remember looking in the mirror, making eye contact with myself, and thinking, " What the fuck's wrong with you ???? You look like you're fuckin' insane ! " Hahahaha !!
Anyways, I could go on and on and on, but you should get my point. BFG is spot on !! But, GODDAMN, would I like to see the other pages me mentioned !! :{ :{ :{
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The "orals" via injectable route before workouts is perfectly plausible. It is being done and more
common as of late with all the UGL's brewing TNE/Dbol/Drol combos.
However, all the cycles written down by BFG have been designed by the same guy. This isn't his friend's cycle, or they are all his friend's cycles.
I always thought BFG's style was similar to Jeffrey Rock/Gavin Kane, who was a proven bullshitter. He never commented on my hunch though.
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I will say one thing about many of these gurus and their methods. A lot of the stuff they do DOES NOT WORK. Many pro clients go from guru to guru searching for that winning combo because they are not getting the results they want. Many pros look worse and worse as time goes by.
If BFG was right a while back and Kai was doing a bunch of site injection shit to bring up his traps (peptides and SEO and what the fuck ever), well... it did not fucking work! :D
Bodybuilding is full of retards and mongoloids and sellers of bunk baloney. :D
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i know a british pro and he was only using 5iu of rips every second day for financial reasons
he would blast test prop, tren and eq a syringe full every day
he would drop the gear a few days out and thats all she wrote
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The "orals" via injectable route before workouts is perfectly plausible. It is being done and more
common as of late with all the UGL's brewing TNE/Dbol/Drol combos.
However, all the cycles written down by BFG have been designed by the same guy. This isn't his friend's cycle, or they are all his friend's cycles.
I always thought BFG's style was similar to Jeffrey Rock/Gavin Kane, who was a proven bullshitter. He never commented on my hunch though.
They are all my cycles from my friend for his clients.
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Marcos Chacon posted his cycle o here but it got deleted, the post is still on here if you look for it. The amounts he took were no where near this cycle.
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Cool cause I just finished 300 dbol 300 anavar. 300 tbol. A day. And my liver is great. Look at Dr Kerrs writings. They used orals by the bottle back than. No one in bbing has liver problems give me a break those oral dosages are fine. Get off ur high horse n low dose bullshit galeniko. Ur full of crap n no one can get huge off 500 test n clean diet. Just like rest of ur bullshit with how diet is better at getting rid of Gyno than Nolva. N Nolva makes it worse later on n all the other bull crap u spew piece of shit fuck girl retard. Take care.
60mg halotestin daily.
yeah right.
so, wow, they use test e until couple weeks out and then change to orals and tren right before contest, how revolutionary ::)
and they use chinese gh.
this could be straight from gh15s pen
yeah, i dont believe the 100mgs dbol all at once with anadrol all at once just before training.
this is ridiculous dosages, esp the upper part 16-8 weeks out.
this stack , i bet a mr o competitor would know smarter than that.
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Def plausible but the GH use is kinda low. Personally know guys who use 20 to 30 iu's daily. Also, know a pro from his lips to my ears that used 200 mgs of drol up to the show day of course among other things.
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My liver hurts just reading that shit. Anyone's ass would feel like a pin cushion.
:'(
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I will say one thing about many of these gurus and their methods. A lot of the stuff they do DOES NOT WORK. Many pro clients go from guru to guru searching for that winning combo because they are not getting the results they want. Many pros look worse and worse as time goes by.
If BFG was right a while back and Kai was doing a bunch of site injection shit to bring up his traps (peptides and SEO and what the fuck ever), well... it did not fucking work! :D
Bodybuilding is full of retards and mongoloids and sellers of bunk baloney. :D
this bfg character is just another dumbfuck. guru, schmooroo.
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That is a LOT.
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No wonder why no one trains hard anymore.
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Morons on this site just HAVE to make, believe they know something....Lol.
Then you have the idiots who back them up, because they want to act like they "know" something too. Ha ha ha.....fucking
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Morons on this site just HAVE to make, believe they know something....Lol.
Then you have the idiots who back them up, because they want to act like they "know" something too. Ha ha ha.....fucking
I assume you're not a " moron " then ? So, please enlighten us ! Or are you here to criticize only ??
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Well dexter Jackson did not go from 130 pounds to competing at 230 from low dose gear usage,
.. He went from a bantam weight to super heavy.... That is from high usage.. There are numerous competitors who gain 70 pounds over their career and we label them abusive.. Yet dexter gains 100 and we can't believe that he would abuse.. See what I mean?
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I assume you're not a " moron " then ? So, please enlighten us ! Or are you here to criticize only ??
burden of proof is on you Sunny Jim, you say it's the "real deal" prove it.
Oh that's right, you can't. .....LOL
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Who cares what they use ?
Just because you take what they take dont mean you will look like them and in reality who wants to look that big and bloated even if you could ?
I would much rather just work a normal job, do low doses/be natural and fuk bitches than do what these losers do to them selves.
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burden of proof is on you Sunny Jim, you say it's the "real deal" prove it.
Oh that's right, you can't. .....LOL
Lol ! So you're just here to criticize then ? Ok. Well, thanks for clearing that up then ! Lol !
Btw, you can't prove that it's NOT the " real deal ", now can you, sonny boy ?? ;-) ;-)
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Who cares what they use ?
Just because you take what they take dont mean you will look like them and in reality who wants to look that big and bloated even if you could ?
I would much rather just work a normal job, do low doses/be natural and fuk bitches than do what these losers do to them selves.
Curiousity is something that's quite natural. Perhaps not for you { which is fine }, but for others here at GetBig. :-) :-)
You are 100 % correct in your second sentence ... however " big and bloated " ... I don't quite understand that comment. Have you seen this year's top 5 Mr. O finalists ? Who's bloated ?? Hahaha. Are you refering to powerlifters, maybe ??
And quite a few bb'ers DO work normal jobs. A lot of them, in fact ! And pussy is NOT something these guys have any problems getting ?? So why try to downplay them like that ?? And, hey, you want to stay natural ? Cool ! That's your choice ! But don't try and downplay those of us who prefer to be enhanced ... and " fuk bitches ". Hahahaha !
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Lol ! So you're just here to criticize then ? Ok. Well, thanks for clearing that up then ! Lol !
Btw, you can't prove that it's NOT the " real deal ", now can you, sonny boy ?? ;-) ;-)
So that's a NO on backing up your statement then?
I'm Dorian Yates, must be true...according to you, because I posted it . See how, that works, stupid ?
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So that's a NO on backing up your statement then?
I'm Dorian Yates, must be true...according to you, because I posted it . See how, that works, stupid ?
Wow ! Just ... wow ! Really think about your post here for a second, Nexus. I mean REALLY think about what it is you're asking. How does one go about proving something that's illegal ? How does one disprove it as well ? Quite simply, I have nothing to prove to you. I backed up BFG's post based on my own PERSONAL experience as a competitor in this industry. From what i've done myself, from what friends of mine have done, etc., etc. Not only from what i've read and / or heard.
Not really sure what your problem is other than being a person who resorts to name calling { i.e - calling me " stupid " because I obviously disagree with your attitude reflected in your posts } which, ironically, is what GetBig has always been about. Lol.
I'm done replying to you, Nexus. Perhaps, you'll show a little more adult-like behavior next time ? Specifically, logic and respect. You obviously seem to be lacking both those things ... :/ :/
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what gets me is guys getting excited about BFG's posts like somehow the "information" is going to make them a better bodybuilder. ;D
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This just sounds absolutely impossible... not only are they pin cushions... the doses... just... I mean if i take 1.5g of test ew.. ppl will say oh too much (but it works well for me)... even me running 50mg superdrol ppl will go whaaa.... but what was just posted...seriously what the? I have a really hard time believing it. I can believe them running 5g of androgens a week but... this is just i dont know...
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This just sounds absolutely impossible... not only are they pin cushions... the doses... just... I mean if i take 1.5g of test ew.. ppl will say oh too much (but it works well for me)... even me running 50mg superdrol ppl will go whaaa.... but what was just posted...seriously what the? I have a really hard time believing it. I can believe them running 5g of androgens a week but... this is just i dont know...
who fucking cares. if you want to look like a probodybuilder and you arent getting there using what your using, then use more. period. all this talk about pro-cycles and this and that.. its all fucking bullshit for the people on the sideline. shit isnt complicated. you dont need a guru. you dont need to know what jay cutler or phil heath is using. try some drugs, find a favorite, use a bunch.. use more if you need to. eat more if you need to. fucking hell, people.
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^yea i totally agree. Everyone's different and finding out/trying is the best, than copying others what they MIGHT be doing. God only knows the truth.. some of this stuff sounds ridiculous but hey.
I know 100mg dbol/100mg anadrol is not unusual (havent tried it but i know), but the rest is just over the top i dont know. And yeah who cares i guess lol
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Curiousity is something that's quite natural. Perhaps not for you { which is fine }, but for others here at GetBig. :-) :-)
You are 100 % correct in your second sentence ... however " big and bloated " ... I don't quite understand that comment. Have you seen this year's top 5 Mr. O finalists ? Who's bloated ?? Hahaha. Are you refering to powerlifters, maybe ??
And quite a few bb'ers DO work normal jobs. A lot of them, in fact ! And pussy is NOT something these guys have any problems getting ?? So why try to downplay them like that ?? And, hey, you want to stay natural ? Cool ! That's your choice ! But don't try and downplay those of us who prefer to be enhanced ... and " fuk bitches ". Hahahaha !
yes it's usually the guys who are wannabees who care about what they use, acting as if the reason they are not as big as the pros doesnt come down to genetics and the only reason they are not "big" is because they do not have the uber secret stack.
and look at what these guys look like b4 the contest, holding so much water than taking more drugs to take it away, fuck that shit it's better to just watch your diet and take safe steroids and be lean and ripped while not holding water.
I never said to stay natural, im not natural, I said it is stupid to abuse these drugs , taking grams of gear while getting all sorts of bad side effects and messing up blood values. It is better to cruise on a safe TRT dose and do blasts every now and then, you should keep alot of the size anyway while being on 200 mg test a week, even when going natural you can keep the size for a while when your test is that of a 10 year old for months on end , i think that is what makes alot of the size go away ( ofcs not talking about the guys who are only big coz of slin)
this whole thing is depressing, u start with those prohormones, then do a test cycle, than this than that, than insulin, then b4 u know it you got a MASSSSSIVE drug addiction ( and not just steroids) for what ? to try to force your self to grow extra muscle ? ::)
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100% what BFG says is true, theres guys I know who arent pros who use almost that amount, then again I have two friends who both had top 6 finishes in the IFBB European amateurs this year who dont even use gh
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No wonder why no one trains hard anymore.
Tommywishbone once mentioned what Rory was taking in a short while, and apparently not re-selling, they bought from same guy, it did not seem little to me.
Paris also looked like a normal guy few months out, then transformed into an aesthetic beast, given, they may have been genetic elite with great response, but either you're downplaying their use or they lied to you regarding their cycles.
Why you'd want to downplay their use, I do not understand, it doesn't take away from their achievements in bbing.
But making it sound like its all training, diet, hard-work (I am not saying they did not work hard, I believe they were monsters) and positive visualization, that's taking people for fools.
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I prefer Dorian Yates famous cycle
yates cycle
week 1----2000mg test cyp---150mg dbol/a day
week 2 ----3000mg test cyp---200mg dbol/a day
week 3-----4000mg test cyp---300mg dbol/day
week 4 -----5000mg test cyp---no dbol
week 5------3000mg test susp---200mg anadrol
week 6------4000mg test susp---300mg anadrol
week 7-------4000mg test susp---400mg anadrol
week 9-------10,000 iu hcg--800mg clomid
week10-------20,000iu hcg--1000mg clomid
week 11------4000mg test prop---100mg halotestin
week 12------4000mg test prop----200mg hal0
weel 13-------5000mg test prop----300mg halo
week 14-------3000mg test sus-----300mg halo----1000mg masterone
week 15-------4000mg test sus-----400mg halo----1000mg masterone
weekl 16-------10,000iu hcg---1000mg clomid
week 17--------20,000iu hcg---2000mg clomid
week 18--------30 ,000iu hcg---3000mg clomid
week 20---------2500mg test susp---1000mg of fina---
weel 21----------3500mg test susp--1500mg of fina
week 22----------4500mg test susp--20oomg of fina
week 23 ----------5000mg test susp---2500mg of fina
week 24 ----------1500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 25-----------2500mg test prop-----500mg anadrol
week 26 -----------3500 mg test prop----300mg anadrol---1000mg masterone/day
week 27------------1500mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200mg winng/day
week 29------------1500 mg test susp-----200mg anadrol---200 mg winny/day
week 30 ------------1500mg test susp------100mg anadrol---300mg winny/day
hgh throughout ranging from 10ius a day all the way up till 24iu a day
Is this true?
I think it's heavier than above posted cycle of the mr olympia 2012 contender?
why week 9 and 19 are missing?
enjoy
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Complete BS...
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I don't know what is so weird about bodybuilders using dbol and anadrol pre-workout I have always been told the same thing. usually it is 50mg dbol/50mg anadrol but some might use 100mg of each
even come game day alot of those competitors are on dbol day of the show. like BFG said the AI's get rid of the water and you get a fuller look. check out kai greene he is on dbol day of the show. I can tell because his face is still a bit puffy. his physique is pretty dry due to the AI's but this is why some have some face bloat. this is a great way to get fullness day of the show.
The cycle posted is 100% believable-IMO. Lee Haney used a very similar AAS cycle except I do not think the exotics were around like today. Also the viagra will increase bloodflow period not just to your penis. viagra will increase vascularity all over. I don't quite understand the chinese HGH if they are also using serostim unless they have the same problem I have and cannot get more then 1 legit serostim kit per month. If I wanted to use 16IU's a day I would have to use some chinese with my serostim. But I am not a pro and stick just to 4IU a day of serostim.
Is that the reason BFG or what is the deal with using chinese HGH and serostim? I figure it is just a problem getting alot of legit serostim and they hav to ration it out???
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I don't know what is so weird about bodybuilders using dbol and anadrol pre-workout I have always been told the same thing. usually it is 50mg dbol/50mg anadrol but some might use 100mg of each
even come game day alot of those competitors are on dbol day of the show. like BFG said the AI's get rid of the water and you get a fuller look. check out kai greene he is on dbol day of the show. I can tell because his face is still a bit puffy. his physique is pretty dry due to the AI's but this is why some have some face bloat. this is a great way to get fullness day of the show.
The cycle posted is 100% believable-IMO. Lee Haney used a very similar AAS cycle except I do not think the exotics were around like today. Also the viagra will increase bloodflow period not just to your penis. viagra will increase vascularity all over. I don't quite understand the chinese HGH if they are also using serostim unless they have the same problem I have and cannot get more then 1 legit serostim kit per month. If I wanted to use 16IU's a day I would have to use some chinese with my serostim. But I am not a pro and stick just to 4IU a day of serostim.
Is that the reason BFG or what is the deal with using chinese HGH and serostim? I figure it is just a problem getting alot of legit serostim and they hav to ration it out???
400 mg halotestin per day (Dorian Yates) is extremely dangerous and unbelievable :o
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I don't know what is so weird about bodybuilders using dbol and anadrol pre-workout I have always been told the same thing. usually it is 50mg dbol/50mg anadrol but some might use 100mg of each
even come game day alot of those competitors are on dbol day of the show. like BFG said the AI's get rid of the water and you get a fuller look. check out kai greene he is on dbol day of the show. I can tell because his face is still a bit puffy. his physique is pretty dry due to the AI's but this is why some have some face bloat. this is a great way to get fullness day of the show.
The cycle posted is 100% believable-IMO. Lee Haney used a very similar AAS cycle except I do not think the exotics were around like today. Also the viagra will increase bloodflow period not just to your penis. viagra will increase vascularity all over. I don't quite understand the chinese HGH if they are also using serostim unless they have the same problem I have and cannot get more then 1 legit serostim kit per month. If I wanted to use 16IU's a day I would have to use some chinese with my serostim. But I am not a pro and stick just to 4IU a day of serostim.
Is that the reason BFG or what is the deal with using chinese HGH and serostim? I figure it is just a problem getting alot of legit serostim and they hav to ration it out???
Finances. Most pros use at least some chinese hgh and use the best quality stuff at the most important times (post workout, for example). I can count the pro bodybuilders on one hand that I know that can access and afford 20-30iu's everyday of all pharm grade hgh.
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Damn I can't afford 2iu of HGH normally since its so expensive in Canada haha :D These rich fellas are crazy ;D
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400 mg halotestin per day (Dorian Yates) is extremely dangerous and unbelievable :o
I never said I believed the dorian yates cycles but the cycle BFG posted looks similar to what lee Haney used. the dorian yates cycl is probably somewhat fabricated.Dorian would have yellow eyes and his liver might fail. I am not joking! Your skin would look horrible as well! Dorian set standard for the super grainy look but that does not mean he was using 400mg halo per day. That is crazy. all the suspension in the dorian cycle is kind of hhard to believe as well. dorian would be the ultimate pin cushion if he really ran that cycle! Suspension is painfull to shoot! You do get used to the pain but shooting that much would make a user ill. I doubt that cycle is legit. amounts are fabricated but the only one who would really know is Dorian.
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which cycle was supposedly lee haney's?
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okay if these are true then I would have to say that these guys living until their 60s and 70s is a fucking miracle!
I mean I had read research that AAS shorten your life span and we all know they effect your heart but if people can live with those kind of cycles then I'm sure everybody else on these forums are going to live till their 100s.
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So what is the point of 20 iu's 90 min pre workout? It takes humalin r 90 Min to kick in. Why would you want it kicking in at the gym. Maybe Im dumb but just dont get it.
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lol just .. lol
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A good friend of mine gave me the "okay" to publicly post one of his clients pre contest "cycles" for this past Mr Olympia 2012 as long as I kept it anonymous (obviously).
I thought the Getbig crowd would appreciate this information, as usual.
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I. 16-8 weeks out
500mg sustanon ED
300mg deca EOD
300mg eq EOD
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
100mg dbol 90 mins pre workout
100mg anadrol 90 mins pre workout
200mg TNE 90 mins pre workout
2. 8-4 weeks out
200mg test propionate ED
100mg TNE 3x per day
100mg tren acetate ED
600mg tren enanthate EW
200mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
10iu humalog before each meal
20iu humulin-R 90 mins pre workout
3. 4-1 Weeks Out
150mg TNE 3x per day
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
50mg halotestin ED
10iu chinese generic hgh ED
6iu serostim ED
2iu sermorelin 3x per day
4. 1-0 weeks out
250mg tren acetate ED
250mg masteron ED
1000mg primabolan EW
60mg halotestin ED
100mg dbol ED
100mg anadrol ED
10iu hulamog with each meal
*diuretics not included.
Do you think, Cutler and Heath are using more roids than this?
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Lots of bullshit cycles posted here. I know bfg knows his stuff and he provides great info.
I know a top pro ( not a friend of a friend of some bro I know) that is running half that
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which cycle was supposedly lee haney's?
I don't know the exact doses but the compounds are for real. I did not hear him mention any exotics like HGH amounts or insulin but he mentioned he ran long cycles of sustanon and deca along with large amounts of anadrol/dbol for months! not just 4 week jumpstart. he also said he used alot of Trenbolone and haloteston but that is the only drugs mentioned . he probably used diuretics and maybe some other cutting tricks but as far as AAS that is all he mentioned no talk of HGH or slin. I didn't feel comfortable asking everything he was talking to a few of us.This was 7 years ago.
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400mg halo a day is not believeable.
this is ridiculous,even if he took nothing else but that, thatd be ridiculous.
someone is making stuff up it seems.
why not say 100mg day, thatd still be insane, but the author clearly goes for sensationalism i think
well I do not know about how many mg of Halotestin Lee haney took but I do know that was one oral he mentioned using. he never mentioned dosages of any of the compounds he mentioned. As far as dorian goes I believe he used halotestin but who really knows how much except dorian himself! I thin people assume he took alot of halotestin and diuretics because of how grainy he would get but that could e du to alot of diffrnet reasons. 400mg of halotestin after a week or two weks if legit would turn you yellow ;)
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which cycle was supposedly lee haney's?
Of season 10000 mg of sust and 600 mg deca e.w 100mg dbol e.d if i remember
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According to an interview with one of Haneys close associates (supplier) done in MM2K he loved EQ - 3 ml ED 50mg per ml yielding just over a gram per week, and he loved Sus250 "apparently"
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According to an interview with one of Haneys close associates (supplier) done in MM2K he loved EQ - 3 ml ED 50mg per ml yielding just over a gram per week, and he loved Sus250 "apparently"
SUST WAS A HOT DRUG THEN,,,,ANAVAR'S BUT THEY WERE FAKED THEN,ANADROL ,PRIMO DEPOT..
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According to an interview with one of Haneys close associates (supplier) done in MM2K he loved EQ - 3 ml ED 50mg per ml yielding just over a gram per week, and he loved Sus250 "apparently"
This makes sense since EQ was always 50mg per cc in the 80's. It was the typical dose put out for vets that serviced horses. UGL's have bumped that up a bit these days since most gym rats run at least 800mg a week.
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My training partner in the 80's won the teen Indiana as well as the Teen America. Haney took him under his wing and helped with diet and gear. At that time Lee was a big fan of Winstrol V precontest. It came in large water based vials with pinkish labels. You shook the hell outta it and shot it daily. At the time it was another horse drug. Looked like milk in the vials. You shook it to break up the crystals so they didn't get stuck in the needle. ;D