When he placed, what, 12th and 13th, in his two comeback attempts at the O in the early '90s, he was gigantic within the several weeks leading to the shows. Well over 300 pounds. Like him or not, he truly was huge. I actually kinda worked out with him during this time when I was in Venice hanging with Tom Platz. Him and Louie are good friends, so by extension I was around him a little in World Gym (R.I.P.). Monster is how I would describe him. In a tank, pumped, no one looked more like a Mr. Olympia.