Please get regular blood work if you're juicing!

[Meso_z]

hormones will shorten life if taken in higher dosages than hrt

that s just fact

like pimping an engine

if done right

 - it will be stronger faster but life length and reliability will be reduced

if done wrong

 - it won t run properly anymore and go to failure very fast with no benefits at all

the decision is "average and long life" or "bigger stronger faster and SHORTER life on hormons with big chance to fuck it up right from the beginning and get nowhere at al"

i won t say don t take hormones but you need to have a specific goal in life to fit to the hormone abuser lifestyle

maybe being a nba superstar is worth to die at 60 instead of 92yrs old

dying 45 insted of 92 to be a big down hill type of bodybuilder is just  

and be sure if you are one of the "life your muscle is everything dream" guys, one day the dream will be over and you will wish that you didn t do what youve done and get just a couple more days on this planet

as soon you go off muscles fade ut heallth probs  very well may stay forever

[affeman]

dying 45 insted of 92 to be a big down hill type of bodybuilder is just  

Some don't even make it that far. Just look at last year:

Luke Wood - 35
Art Atwood - 37
Zyzz - 22 or 23

And basically none of these guys has even achieved anything mentionable in that "sport".

[closeline]

Some don't even make it that far. Just look at last year:

Luke Wood - 35
Art Atwood - 37
Zyzz - 22 or 23

And basically none of these guys has even achieved anything mentionable in that "sport".

exactly

if colemand drops dead tomorrow he will be not forget for years

but looke wood 

[peruke]

What's his hairpiece made out of?  The pubes from a squirrels ball sack!!!

NO More Calls We Have A Winner!

[OptimusPrime1980]

Some don't even make it that far. Just look at last year:

Luke Wood - 35
Art Atwood - 37
Zyzz - 22 or 23

And basically none of these guys has even achieved anything mentionable in that "sport".

yes what killed these guys? narcotics...not the roids...
btw, i can come with a number of heavy juicers that are fine and healthy and old... lol...
also i know people that died in their 30 that never did steroids...
silly discussion...
what it comes down to = genetics and fate... and common sense