Trayvon Martin - Gun, Drugs, Fighting

[240 is Back]

Child abuse?   For a 6 foot tall gold teeth racist doper like trayshit?

If trayvon was 4 foot 8 and 89 pounds, and was 18, he'd be tried as an ADULT for any crimes.

So yes, legally, he just turned 17 and was a child.  Legally, the 3rd degree child charge shouldn't stick anyway, but it could.

Now, the defense lawyer threatening "if you add that charge, we have a lot of TALKING to do" - he is outright threatening to filibuster and drag out this trial if they charge that.

They agreed with the manslaughter charge, and hey, surely the 3rd degree child charge shouldn't matter if they didn't prove their case, right?  DEFENSE was unprepared for this, BUT since they did intro that 17 year old line of text, they SHOULD have seen this coming.

[Archer77]

If trayvon was 4 foot 8 and 89 pounds, and was 18, he'd be tried as an ADULT for any crimes.

So yes, legally, he just turned 17 and was a child.  Legally, the 3rd degree child charge shouldn't stick anyway, but it could.

Now, the defense lawyer threatening "if you add that charge, we have a lot of TALKING to do" - he is outright threatening to filibuster and drag out this trial if they charge that.

They agreed with the manslaughter charge, and hey, surely the 3rd degree child charge shouldn't matter if they didn't prove their case, right?  DEFENSE was unprepared for this, BUT since they did intro that 17 year old line of text, they SHOULD have seen this coming.

Smacks of desperation.

[240 is Back]

Child abuse?   For a 6 foot tall gold teeth racist doper like trayshit?

and if trayvon looked like LeBron James - and wasn't  5' 11" and 158 pounds as his death certificate lists - Would zimmerman have chased him?  OF COURSE NOT!

He did bully the kid.  He did believe, with his MMA training and 30 pound weight advantage, that he'd kick trayvon's ass.  He thought tray was on drugs and armed and STILL chased him - Brave?   Dumb?  Either way, he wouldn't chase lebron james.  5'11" and 159 pounds is beyond skinny twink.

[blacken700]

zimm is going down,as he should

[240 is Back]

Smacks of desperation.

Aggrivated assault smacks of desperation.

Manslaughter is about right.

3rd degree should be easily beaten by this weak ass case.

[240 is Back]

zimm is going down,as he should

nonsense.  getbiggers declared 2 weeks ago (when the prosecution got their weak shit out of the way early) that the trial was over, zimmerman would beat the rap.

[blacken700]

nonsense.  getbiggers declared 2 weeks ago (when the prosecution got their weak shit out of the way early) that the trial was over, zimmerman would beat the rap.

getbiggers get it wrong most of the time 

[dario73]

They agreed with the manslaughter charge, and hey, surely the 3rd degree child charge shouldn't matter if they didn't prove their case, right?  DEFENSE was unprepared for this, BUT since they did intro that 17 year old line of text, they SHOULD have seen this coming.

The defense was unprepared because the prosecution dumped that additional charge on them TWO HOURS before court session began. EVEN the judge didn't have all the case law cited by the prosecution.

The judge has to give the defense time to research and counter every single case cited by the prosecution. Makes sense to me. That is what Don West was referring to. He was not threatening.

[dario73]

and if trayvon looked like LeBron James - and wasn't  5' 11" and 158 pounds as his death certificate lists - Would zimmerman have chased him?  OF COURSE NOT!

He did bully the kid.  He did believe, with his MMA training and 30 pound weight advantage, that he'd kick trayvon's ass.  He thought tray was on drugs and armed and STILL chased him - Brave?   Dumb?  Either way, he wouldn't chase lebron james.  5'11" and 159 pounds is beyond skinny twink.

Is following someone illegal?

[Soul Crusher]

zimm is going down,as he should

When you have a biased judge, a ridiculous da overcharging the case, etc - kangaroo court is obvious just to place the mobs of racist black thugs threatening to riot like animals if they don't get their way. 

[dario73]

When you have a biased judge, a ridiculous da overcharging the case, etc - kangaroo court is obvious just to place the mobs of racist black thugs threatening to riot like animals if they don't get their way. 

He could appeal but I don't know on what grounds. We shall see.

[240 is Back]

When you have a biased judge, a ridiculous da overcharging the case, etc - kangaroo court is obvious just to place the mobs of racist black thugs threatening to riot like animals if they don't get their way. 

oh man, there will be no race riots lol.  silliness.

and the defense team having no idea that 10/20/Life applies to manslaughter or aggrivated assault - PATHETIC.  They're unprepared for this case, sad really.  I called out the inept defense team on day 1 and we're seeing it now as well.  Mandatory sentencing may be what ends up keeping zimmerman locked up for 20 years.

Unless he settles for a last minute plea for 8 years to avoid that 20 year charge he's suddenly facing because the defense had no idea...

[Archer77]

oh man, there will be no race riots lol.  silliness.

and the defense team having no idea that 10/20/Life applies to manslaughter or aggrivated assault - PATHETIC.  They're unprepared for this case, sad really.  I called out the inept defense team on day 1 and we're seeing it now as well.  Mandatory sentencing may be what ends up keeping zimmerman locked up for 20 years.

Unless he settles for a last minute plea for 8 years to avoid that 20 year charge he's suddenly facing because the defense had no idea...

He may very well plea to eight.  Unless that is his defense team has him convinced his case is a guaranteed win.

[Soul Crusher]

Please to 8?  No FNG way. 

How does he even get convicted of manslaughter at this point? 

[Archer77]

Please to 8?  No FNG way. 

How does he even get convicted of manslaughter at this point? 

A compromise verdict.

[Straw Man]

It's irrelevant that they have no evidence that martin started the fight. There is far more than a reasonable doubt that he comitted murder 2. End of story. I don't think the justification of deadly force has anything to do with convicting him of murder. It may come into play if the judge allows the lesser charges, however. (Which I'm fairly sure he will, can you imagine the ensuing shitstorm if he doesn't? Wouldn't suprise me if he will be pressured into it.)

not end of story because he can be convicted on a lesser charge

also, if Martin did not start the fight then how can Zimmerman claim self defense unless you're allowed to start fights and then kill the person

I'm not saying Martin did not start the fight but just pointing out there is no evidence that he did

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Source: USA Today

SANFORD, Fla.-- The judge in the Trayvon Martin murder case agreed Thursday to instruct jurors to consider the lesser charge of manslaughter when they begin deliberations.

George Zimmerman had been charged only with second-degree murder.

Zimmerman's attorneys had objected to adding any lesser charges, and Judge Debra Nelson held a hearing on the issue. The jury still has the option of convicting Zimmerman, 29, of the second-degree murder charge that prosecutors sought when the trial began.

The last-minute maneuvering has been seen by some legal experts as an indication that prosecutors were not confident about their chances for a second-degree murder conviction. Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, has been portrayed by prosecutors as a wanna-be cop who shot Trayvon, who is black, after a confrontation in a gated residential community in February 2012.

Excellent move by the prosecution.  The jury is definitely going to give him something....even manslaughter will net him about 30 years and the judge will almost certainly give him the maximum penalty.

Goodbye Zimmerman....say hello to prison.  Be sure not to drop the soap   Once he's in prison, they will be no place for him to hide.  The Neo Nazi's won't protect him because he's half Hispanic...the hispanics won't protect him because of his "Myspace Profile".......

He's going to be having some dark meat every single night.

[Soul Crusher]

Excellent move by the prosecution.  The jury is definitely going to give him something....even manslaughter will net him about 30 years and the judge will almost certainly give him the maximum penalty.

Goodbye Zimmerman....say hello to prison.  Be sure not to drop the soap

    

Funny how the 70+ black thugs like Ashtrayvon shot in Chicago last weekend barely get a mention. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

   

Funny how the 70+ black thugs like Ashtrayvon shot in Chicago last weekend barely get a mention. 

Well, that's too bad....

[Archer77]

Excellent move by the prosecution.  The jury is definitely going to give him something....even manslaughter will net him about 30 years and the judge will almost certainly give him the maximum penalty.

Goodbye Zimmerman....say hello to prison.  Be sure not to drop the soap   Once he's in prison, they will be no place for him to hide.  The Neo Nazi's won't protect him because he's half Hispanic...the hispanics won't protect him because of his "Myspace Profile".......

He's going to be having some dark meat every single night.

He will be in protective custody.

[Soul Crusher]

Well, that's too bad....

Just shows how utterly delusional and pathetic and in denial Da Comunnity is.  

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince is right to a degree.  This is FL.  They have some really sketchy verdicts to come back at times.  

http://patdollard.com/2013/07/zimmerman-defense-attorneys-daughters-get-rape-threats/


Wow!!!  Defense attorney's daughters running off at the mouth a little too much.  Now they might get got

[Skeletor]

http://patdollard.com/2013/07/zimmerman-defense-attorneys-daughters-get-rape-threats/


Wow!!!  Defense attorney's daughters running off at the mouth a little too much.  Now they might get got

Your previous posts show that you support "vigilante justice" if you feel the courts don't give the desired verdict.
Should we assume you would applaud her rape?

[Fury]

Your previous posts show that you support "vigilante justice" if you feel the courts don't give the desired verdict.
Should we assume you would applaud her rape?

Would think so. Pretty immature, if you think about it.

[240 is Back]

   

Funny how the 70+ black thugs like Ashtrayvon shot in Chicago last weekend barely get a mention. 

you want to put society on trial, and that's cool.   but this case is about this one shooting.