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--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---They're an e-commerce company now? I see... this inspires confidence, for sure. This is the reason why when I go to buy a car from a car dealer, I also buy flour from him as well.
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Karatbars has always been an e-commerce company
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---LOL... in other words: "there too are merchants. I can't tell you where they are, but they totally are." You sound like a child.
So amazing that "company" - all it does is give, give, give... ::)
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Yep, ...they're constantly amazing me as well as other affiliates with their caring, compassion, & generosity. :)
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---One itty-bitty problem: NOBODY WANTS TO TRANSACT THAT WAY.
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Actually we're finding that a lot of people would prefer to transact that way. Many States like Utah, Arizona etc are in fact passing laws making gold legal tender.People more and more are choosing to extricate themselves from debt, and debt based systems.
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---As I've demonstrated - using numbers and math - what they do is sell tiny amounts of gold, at a ridiculous markup in a package that is neither convenient nor standard.
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This is simply not accurate, but you're entitled to believe whatever you choose to.
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---Certainly, the government can remove currency that comes to its possession from circulation and it can make a currency that is legal tender no longer legal tender. But it cannot make the currency you have stashed in your mattress disappear, and it cannot just 'recall' it. But this is hardly something new or shocking. And it's not limited to currency that it issues: a government can also make private ownership of gold illegal, as the U.S. did before.
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Precedent certainly has been set for that in the USA, but truthfully, it matters not to me whether the USA, (one country out of 120+ and counting,) chooses to outlaw private ownership of gold, anymore than I care that Saudi Arabia makes consumption of alcohol illegal. Or for that matter that gambling was illegal for so long in my own province. If I wanted to play BlackJack, while sipping a Long Island Ice Tea, I could always simply do so in Vegas. China once passed a law stating married couples could only have one child per household. It didn't make a hill of beans to those Chinese couples living in Canada, the USA or anywhere else outside of China, or even for those Chinese couples who already had multiple children living outside of the country. They were not required to undergo retro-active abortions. Governments can pass whatever laws they choose to. They could in fact pass a law one day making private single family home ownership illegal. I prefer however not to engage in wild speculation with regards to what laws governments may or may not choose to pass in the future, and I see no reason why I should forego owning my own home as a precaution. I simply keep my eyes open, look at what I see going on all around me, and try to apply a little common sense in my decision making.
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---First things first: a bank card is not a currency anymore than a menu is food you idiot.
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I'm well aware that a bank card is not a currency. I used that as an example of something issued & used for the purposes of facilitating financial transactions. While both facilitate financial transactions, they remain the property of the issuer. That was the point I was attempting to make. There's no need to get ad hom.
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---If a bank "recalls" your card, they don't get to keep the assets that you have in your account.
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LOL! You say that like you've never heard of Cyprus, or the bank bail-in provision already codified into law in all the G7's. BTW: Those numbers in your bank accounts, are not your assets, they are digital debt-based IOU's. What do you think will happen to the value of all your currency if your bank can't afford to pay it's debt obligation to you? Would you rather have your savings backed by FDIC / CDIC insurance or gold? As for me personally, I'd rather have my savings IN GOLD.
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---And yet, it looks and feels exactly like an MLM.
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Only to the uninformed.
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---Karatbars doesn't sell gold either. They sell plastic cards. And I'm not interested in viewing yet another website dreamed up by you and your cohorts.
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Karatbars does indeed sell gold. Your lack of interest in clarity or accuracy of facts, reveals to me your possible true intent to:
* A. disparage what you do not understand,
* B. malign, misconstrue, and mislead instead.
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---Sure it has - in the same way that your gas pills afforded you the ability to drive your car without having to fill up with gas.
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When did I ever state gas pills would allow someone to drive a car without filling up with gas? ::)
Do you honestly believe that one of Europe's largest independent Consumer Watchdog organizations would recommend them if they weren't genuine? ...or that the Vatican would buy 100 kilos of Karatbars gold... or that Buckingham Palace would commission and privately brand 6 kilos of limited edition commemorative collectable gold cards for Queen Elizabeth II's diamond jubilee without first determining if the gold was real, or if the company was a reliable partner to do business with? Do you?
I've stated what Karatbars is, and what it isn't.
You can choose to indulge in whatever wishful thinking you choose to about whether the gold is real or not. There have been many who have actually purchased Karatbars gold, removed the gold bars and had them tested, only to discover, they are exactly what Karatbars and their certificates of warranty claim them to be.
You don't have to take my word for it though. We could simply put the matter to rest by your purchasing some Karatbars gold cards, and having them tested. :P "You once told me to put my money where my pie hole was". Until you take your own advice, ...I really don't see that we have anything further to discuss. ;)
--- Quote from: avxo on June 21, 2014, 09:40:51 PM ---I wish I could say I'm surprised that you don't have a job, but I'm not. You don't strike me as a productive member of society. You strike me as a leech.
But peddling "gold" to others will get them where they want to be financially? Yeah, right...
You've tried this "we're like Amazon" bit before. The truth is you aren't like Amazon, and you ought to cut it out.
Whether I understand what you're doing doesn't make a difference. Whether you understand does. Let me remind you, you are the buffoon who thought that Karatbars were 999.9% gold...
Again, the facts are there for everyone to see. The conclusion is inescapable.
BUT WAIT. THERE'S MORE. IF YOU ORDER IN NEXT FIFTEEN MINUTES, WE'LL DOUBLE YOUR OFFER...
You are a fucking joke and you do a far more compelling job at caricaturing yourself than an established caricature artist ever could.
How much more plastic, by volume, do you have in your "stockpile" there? I'm just curious.
Come on, is this even worthy of a rebuttal? Lady, you've never had 4,000€ in weekly referral anything. You've never had 4,000€ period. Go back to shilling miracle gas pills and whatever else it is that you do to swindle people.
Seriously? You're offering clarifications? Haven't we already established that you don't know your head from your ass? Remember, you are the person who didn't know fundamental economics concepts and can't explain basic facts about the bullion market.
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Thank You for those kind words,
Have yourself a lovely weekend. :)
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