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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2014, 04:16:08 AM »
A generation of Democrats lost in the Obama era
POSTED AT 3:31 PM ON NOVEMBER 9, 2014 BY NOAH ROTHMAN

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The scale of the Democratic Party’s losses over the course of the Barack Obama era is becoming clear, and they are vast. On Saturday, Politico reported that Democrats are coming to the grim realization that much of the party’s talent pool was crushed on Tuesday.

In Maryland, the state’s lieutenant governor, an Iraq War veteran and Harvard alumnus, failed to win the state’s governor’s mansion despite Barack Obama personally campaigning for him. In Georgia and Kentucky, New Southern Democrats Michelle Nunn and Alison Lundergan Grimes were defeated by a political newcomer and Republican incumbent respectively. In Texas, Wendy Davis, hailed in the press as the women who might finally turn Texas blue, had precisely the opposite effect on her state. The state Senate seat she once held will be occupied in January by a pro-life, tea party-friendly Republican woman.

“Any of them could have landed on a vice presidential short list in 2016,” Politico lamented. “Instead, all of them lost.”

Joining them were numerous down-ballot Democrats widely viewed as future contenders for high office: attorney general candidates in Nevada and Arizona who looked like future governors; aspiring state treasurers in Ohio and Colorado who could have gone on to bigger things; prized secretary of state candidates in Iowa and Kansas as well as countless congressional hopefuls around the country.
In two consecutive midterms, Republicans have decimated the Democratic Party’s bench of talent, not just on the federal or statewide level but farther down the ballot as well. The GOP now controls 69 of the nation’s 99 legislative chambers, a dramatic reversal, according to Washington Examiner columnist David Freddoso, from 2008 when Barack Obama’s party controlled 62 legislative chambers. The GOP now has the total command of state government – both chambers of the legislature and the governor’s mansions – in 23 states, while Democrats command the levers of government in just seven states. In addition to the Republican Party’s 31 governorships, the GOP enjoys the allegiance of 32 lieutenant governors offices and 29 crucial secretaries of state.

The Democratic Party’s farm team outside of the coasts and some enclaves in the Deep South and the Upper Midwest has been all but wiped out. The party, as The Washington Post’s Dan Balz observed in a must-read column, is at risk of being seen as a rapidly aging one.

“Think of it this way,” he wrote. “If Clinton were to win the presidency and serve two terms, the next opportunity for a new generation of Democrats to compete nationally would not come until 2024.”

“The Democrats could go 16 years between competitive presidential nomination contests, wiping out opportunities for today’s younger generation to define or redefine the party apart from either the Obama or Clinton eras,” Balz continued.

According to national exit polling, Republicans improved with the voters aged 18-29 who turned out by 2 points over the party’s 2010 standing. The GOP only lost young voters to Democrats by an atypically close single-digit margin. Moreover, the GOP continues to elevate a younger generation of leaders to high office, including the youngest person to serve in the House in history, 30-year-old Representative-elect Elise Stefanik (R-NY) who had the added privilege of turning her Empire State district from blue to red. She will replace Rep. Aaron Schock (R-IL) who, at 33-years-old, will soon only be the second youngest House member.

The Democratic officeholders who survived the routings of 2010 and 2014 are primarily entrenched incumbents and are invariably of an older set. The Democratic Party is rapidly becoming a political organization that, as liberals once said of the GOP, does not look like the constituents it seeks to represent.

Balz further notes that the last competitive Democratic presidential primary, an energizing spectacle which Democrats are unlikely to have in 2016, featured a number of names that have long ago shuffled off the national stage.

The last competitive nomination campaign, in 2008, included — in addition to Obama and Clinton — an experienced field: then-senators Joe Biden, Christopher Dodd and John Edwards, and then-governor Bill Richardson. Clinton has been on the national stage for two decades. Biden, who might run if Clinton does not, was elected to the Senate four decades ago. Dodd and Richardson are out of office. Edwards is in disgrace. With the obvious exceptions, that field has disappeared.
And who might challenge Clinton in 2016? Maryland’s Gov. Martin O’Malley has been repudiated by his deep blue state’s voters. California Gov. Jerry Brown, 76, won his first statewide office during the Nixon administration. Andrew Cuomo, who Balz dismisses as unable to remove himself from Clinton’s shadow, is despised by his party’s left-wing. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is a septuagenarian socialist.

By contrast, the GOP has a slate of young, energetic federal and statewide office holders and a number of two-term governors now who have consistently demonstrated their ability to withstand Democratic attacks. One which should send shivers down the left’s collective spines is Ohio’s John Kasich. The Buckeye State’s governor won his reelection by the second-largest margin in its history, but his state’s voters have also seen fit to give the GOP near total command of the state under Kasich’s watch.

Ohio is an interesting case study of the fortunes of the two parties. It has been ground zero in presidential campaigns for years. Obama won it twice — but at the state level, Republicans are firmly in control. GOP candidates have won all the statewide elected offices there in five of the past six elections.
The party maintains a strong bench of talent on the coasts and in America’s urban centers, but Democratic strategists are right to fret that those future recruits may not have the crossover appeal in purple states that center-left candidates otherwise would.

When Barack Obama took office, he was hailed as a liberal savior. His presidency, it was believed, would usher in a new era of progressive dominance not seen since Roosevelt. Instead, Republicans have been restored to a position of power across the country they had not known since Al Smith lost 40 states to Herbert Hoover. Far from revitalizing it, Obama has erased generations of the Democratic Party’s progress.

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2014, 04:21:35 AM »
Yep. I called it six months ago.

Has there been anyone worse for the Democratic Party in the past 30 years than Barack Obama?

He has likely set the Democratic Party back a generation.



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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2014, 04:55:12 AM »
Yep. I called it six months ago.


The best part is that liberal cultists and sycophants still blame everyone else and plod on the same path - blaming W, palin, etc - screaming about bs issues like gay marriage etc. 

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2014, 04:57:15 AM »
Very similar to the Bush2 presidency.  After 6 years, the majority of the country hated him, and he lost House in a brutal beatdown of an election.  BUT it only lasted a few years, his major conservative policy/actions/wars are still in place, and pendulum has swung back right again.

We'll see the same thing with obama.  Dems lose popular support, but only because the economy is ticking up.  People get rich for 5 or ten years, then things swing the other way, and Repubs lose their foothold in congress with the 2022 elections.

Historically, aside from the brainwashed idiots screaming lib and pissing themselves with unhappiness, Bush and Obama won't be all that much different.  Bush WAS a shining light amidst the disgusting moistness of the clinton wet stain presidency.   Obama WAS a shining light for broke ass people after our country funded 7 years of war.  Cruz/Rand WILL be a voice fo common sense, hard working american spirit after 8 years of entitled elitist attitude.   Etc etc.  

Anyone refusing the similarities, you're just clouded with anger.  The presidency of BOTH MEN was a success by the goals established by their base, their puppet masters, their party elders, their ideologies, whatever you call them.

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2014, 05:00:02 AM »
The best part is that liberal cultists and sycophants still blame everyone else and plod on the same path - blaming W, palin, etc - screaming about bs issues like gay marriage etc. 

Ha ha the fucking delusional losers  ;)
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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2014, 05:12:01 AM »
Very similar to the Bush2 presidency.  After 6 years, the majority of the country hated him, and he lost House in a brutal beatdown of an election.  BUT it only lasted a few years, his major conservative policy/actions/wars are still in place, and pendulum has swung back right again.

We'll see the same thing with obama.  Dems lose popular support, but only because the economy is ticking up.  People get rich for 5 or ten years, then things swing the other way, and Repubs lose their foothold in congress with the 2022 elections.

Historically, aside from the brainwashed idiots screaming lib and pissing themselves with unhappiness, Bush and Obama won't be all that much different.  Bush WAS a shining light amidst the disgusting moistness of the clinton wet stain presidency.   Obama WAS a shining light for broke ass people after our country funded 7 years of war.  Cruz/Rand WILL be a voice fo common sense, hard working american spirit after 8 years of entitled elitist attitude.   Etc etc.  

Anyone refusing the similarities, you're just clouded with anger.  The presidency of BOTH MEN was a success by the goals established by their base, their puppet masters, their party elders, their ideologies, whatever you call them.

 ???

Obama took a 60 seat Senate and a Democratic house and in 6 years turned it into a 40% approval rating, his own party running away from him, being openly mocked overseas, a likely 54 seat Republican controlled Senate and the greatest House Majority since something like 1928?

And you call that a SUCCESS??



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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2014, 05:18:46 AM »



Democrats lose big in statehouses, too

By Steven Shepard
  | 11/6/14 3:08 PM EST
  | Updated 11/10/14 3:03 AM EST
 
   
Tuesday’s Republican midterm wave also rippled across the nation’s state governments, with the GOP grabbing three governorships and majorities in at least 10 new legislative chambers – further tightening their grip on the levers of power at the state level.

Republicans will hold 31 of the country’s 50 governorships next year – perhaps 32, if late-counted ballots push Alaska Gov. Sean Parnell ahead of his independent challenger, Bill Walker. They will also hold between 67 and 69 of the 98 partisan state legislative chambers – more than at any point in history, according to the Republican State Leadership Committee.

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With Washington paralyzed in many cases, it is state governments that have been major centers of policy-making. Even the implementation 2010 health care law, which Republicans decry as federal overreach, has largely been determined at the state level, where states controlled by Democrats mostly created state health care exchanges and accepted federal dollars to expand their Medicaid programs – and states controlled by Republicans mostly did not.

(PHOTOS: Pols cast their ballots on Election Day 2014)

GOP victory also begets GOP victory. Republican gains in 2010 – which came a month before the decennial reapportionment process – put the party in charge of redrawing the congressional and legislative maps in many of these states. That’s allowed Republicans to lock in many of their gains over the subsequent two elections and created historic GOP majorities in the U.S. House and many state legislatures.

Many of Tuesday’s gains were in traditional Democratic territory. Republicans won governorships in Arkansas, which they’ve held for just 16 years since Reconstruction; President Barack Obama’s home state of Illinois; and Maryland, which they’ve held for just one term since former Gov. Spiro Agnew’s elevation to vice president in 1968.

At the state legislative level, the GOP wrested control of at least 10 chambers in which Democrats had outnumbered Republicans. They won the Minnesota state House, despite a number of successful Democratic reelection campaigns there – Sen. Al Franken, Gov. Mark Dayton and Reps. Collin Peterson and Rick Nolan all won.

(Full 2014 election results)

Republicans captured the Maine state Senate, as vulnerable GOP Gov. Paul LePage won reelection. New Mexico’s popular Republican governor, Susana Martinez, cruised to victory, and her coattails brought the Democratic-controlled state House along with her for the first time since the early 1950s.

Nevada Democrats’ failure to recruit a candidate against Gov. Brian Sandoval, and Republicans swept, winning control of both houses of the state legislature, every statewide race (including for attorney general, which underdog Adam Laxalt won) and the U.S. House seat of freshman Democratic Rep. Steven Horsford.

“There was not a lot at the top of the ticket that was driving Democratic voters” in Nevada and New Mexico, said Kurt Fritts, national political director at the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, “so that offered up a tough landscape for legislative candidates.”

(Senate results by state)

In West Virginia, Republicans forced a 17-17 tie in the state Senate — which had been governed by a 24-10 Democratic majority – meaning a party switch from one Democrat will seemingly allow the GOP to control the entire legislature for the first time since the Great Depression. The GOP also seized control of the state House. The outcome surprised even national Republicans, who viewed the West Virginia Senate as more likely to flip in 2016.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/11/democrats-lose-big-in-statehouses-too-112650.html#ixzz3IfggCLLR

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2014, 05:22:58 AM »
???

Obama took a 60 seat Senate and a Democratic house and in 6 years turned it into a 40% approval rating, his own party running away from him, being openly mocked overseas, a likely 54 seat Republican controlled Senate and the greatest House Majority since something like 1928?

And you call that a SUCCESS??

Bush has a nice cushy lead and lost House and nation hated him - BUT it was a success because he did the things republicans wanted - he started mid east wars that will last decades, lots of other things.  Bush was a success, not because he "held on to house", which bounces every few years anyway.  POLICY and ACCOMPLISHMENT and MILITARY - Bush was a win.


historically, victory isn't about "well, he kept this house/senate", it's about "He won WWII, he got social security passed", etc.   ANd BOTH bush and obama have achieved a lot for their base in that manner. 

Repubs smile when they think of Bush years - they all got rich, they got their justices, they got their wars.
Dems will smile when looking back at obama in a few years - They got entitlements, they got obamacare, will prob get amnesty too.

House/ssenate numbers always bounce, but things like invading afghanisatan, those bases last hundreds of years.  Things like Obamacare, hard to undo that.  IMO, the makeup of legislative body matters WAY less to them.

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2014, 05:33:44 AM »
Bush has a nice cushy lead and lost House and nation hated him - BUT it was a success because he did the things republicans wanted - he started mid east wars that will last decades, lots of other things.  Bush was a success, not because he "held on to house", which bounces every few years anyway.  POLICY and ACCOMPLISHMENT and MILITARY - Bush was a win.


historically, victory isn't about "well, he kept this house/senate", it's about "He won WWII, he got social security passed", etc.   ANd BOTH bush and obama have achieved a lot for their base in that manner. 

Repubs smile when they think of Bush years - they all got rich, they got their justices, they got their wars.
Dems will smile when looking back at obama in a few years - They got entitlements, they got obamacare, will prob get amnesty too.

House/ssenate numbers always bounce, but things like invading afghanisatan, those bases last hundreds of years.  Things like Obamacare, hard to undo that.  IMO, the makeup of legislative body matters WAY less to them.

We get so caught up in the National elections Governerships, Senate, House...but look at that article 33 just put up.

"They will also hold between 67 and 69 of the 98 partisan state legislative chambers – more than at any point in history"

When you start talking about "Biggest house majority in 70 years"...."Highest majority in State Legistlative Chamber IN ANY POINT IN HISTORY..."

That's a little more significant than a run of the mill, pendulum swing.

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2014, 05:36:46 AM »
We get so caught up in the National elections Governerships, Senate, House...but look at that article 33 just put up.

"They will also hold between 67 and 69 of the 98 partisan state legislative chambers – more than at any point in history"

When you start talking about "Biggest house majority in 70 years"...."Highest majority in State Legistlative Chamber IN ANY POINT IN HISTORY..."

That's a little more significant than a run of the mill, pendulum swing.


The problem w radical libs is that while they scream about bullshit issues like gay marriage, palin, abortion, race, etc - most everyone else is talking about cost of living, taxes, real issues faced by most people and people are sick of their shit.  The Democrats offer NOTHING for anyone but gay marriage, abortion, and welfare.  Yeah good luck w that.     

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2014, 05:48:46 AM »
does obama care more about

1) dems having senate after he's moved on, OR

2) leaving office with a legacy of obamacare, amnesty, entitlments, etc    ???

I contend that obama, the DNC, libs in general, would trade away the senate ANY DAY to be able to do the damage they've done in 6 years.

They had senate under Bush, didn't get shit done.  Repubs have house (now seante) and obama's still doing amnesty and entitlements as he pleases.   One could argue that congress matters less each day, as exec power grows. 

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2014, 06:05:53 AM »
Obama has one intent - collapse the nation

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2014, 06:36:39 AM »
Obama has one intent - collapse the nation

and this is a legit goal of the DNC, I'd say he has NOT been a disaster for the dem party.

Yes, disaster for the nation.   But DNC does not equal the nation, way diff goals.

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2014, 09:06:41 AM »
The best part is that liberal cultists and sycophants still blame everyone else and plod on the same path - blaming W, palin, etc - screaming about bs issues like gay marriage etc. 

who exactly is blaming W and Palin for midterm losses?

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2014, 06:18:08 PM »
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Dems to Obama: You broke our party
Hot Air.com ^  | November 19, 2014 | ED MORRISEY

Posted on ‎11‎/‎19‎/‎2014‎ ‎8‎:‎34‎:‎07‎ ‎PM by Kaslin

No kidding. On almost every measure, the Democratic Party has lost significant ground to Republicans during the Barack Obama era. Six years ago, they seemed ascendant, on the verge of the mythical “permanent majority” not just on the federal level but in state legislatures, politically and culturally, and certainly demographically. After suffering through not just one but two historic midterm debacles, Republicans are now much stronger than they were during the peak of the George Bush era — or even the Ronald Reagan era, in all places but the White House.

Politico reports today that former Clinton advisor Donna Brazile went to the White House two weeks ago with a message. Clean up your act and fix the party you’ve broken — and make sure Obama takes responsibility for the effort:


Enough, Donna Brazile told White House political director David Simas the day after the midterms.

Democrats are in worse shape than when President Barack Obama came into office — the number of seats they have in Congress, the number of governors, a party approval rating that’s fallen behind Republicans for the first time in recent history, enthusiasm, energy. The White House, Brazile said when she came to meet with Simas, has got to focus for the next two years on getting the party into better shape, and Obama’s the best and most effective person to get out the message.

The White House has been issuing sunny proclamations ever since the elections and trying to focus on Obama’s current activities rather than the massive rebuke he got from voters over his performance in office. That’s a façade, Edward-Isaac Dovere writes, intended to distract from the obvious:


“People are licking their wounds… trying to figure out where they go from here: ‘Can we be the phoenix rising from the ashes?’ Where are these issues where he’s going to dig in his heels and fight? Where does he compromise with Republicans, and how does he manage the politics of that?” said a Democratic strategist familiar with the White House. …

Great, Democrats say. Now make something of it. Talk about the economic progress that’s happened. Talk about how to achieve job growth to build on it.

“The best thing he can do is focus on income inequality, and talk about and propose things, and just be a fierce advocate for addressing the economic divide,” said another Democratic strategist with ties to the White House. “That will leave people after two years saying the Democratic Party really stands for something.”

That ignores the fact that Obama and the entire White House have been talking non-stop about the success of their economic initiatives while simultaneously exhausting the rhetorical library on income inequality. Other than “war on women” and climate-change demagoguery, it’s practically all they’ve discussed. The election showed that no one buys their pitch any longer. People remain pessimistic about the economy, and they’re more concerned about job creation than income inequality.

This also misses the fallout from Jonathan Gruber, too. The architect of ObamaCare made it clear that the White House and Democrats didn’t just deceive voters, they strategized on how to do it and how to fake out the CBO so they didn’t get caught. Post-Gruber, no one’s going to believe anything this White House has to say, right up to and including Obama, who made the ridiculous claim that he’d barely heard of Gruber while earlier video showed him clearly bragging about stealing Gruber’s ideas. Obama and the White House lie about lying. Why would more talk help?

The remarks from White House officials suggest that Obama will go big on progressive policy to re-establish his credibility over the next two years. Josh Kraushaar warns in National Journal that such a strategy will likely do more damage to the Democratic Party than the previous six years have already done:


President Obama’s biggest problem over the next two years may not be coming from recalcitrant Republicans, but from members of his own party blanching at his activist agenda over the final two years of his presidency. While the midterm election results suggested widespread dissatisfaction with the president’s policies, Obama nonetheless is planning to press forward on several polarizing decisions in his final two years. It could help advance his legacy, but come at the expense of the Democratic Party’s long-term health.

Three of the administration’s biggest agenda items—threatening a veto of bipartisan legislation authorizing construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, reaching a nuclear deal with Iran, and issuing an executive order legalizing millions of illegal immigrants—divide Democrats, and unite Republicans. If the president moves forward with all of them, it would aggravate fissures in an increasingly-divided Democratic Party. And it would put Hillary Clinton, his party’s expected 2016 standard-bearer, in an uncomfortable position even before she announces her candidacy. She’s already avoided taking stances, if not outright rejecting the direction Obama is heading during his final two years in office.

The dirty secret in Washington is that while Obama (rightly) blamed Republicans for holding positions to the right of the American electorate, the president is pursuing policies that are equally as far to the left.

Obama didn’t learn the Bill Clinton lesson after the first midterms. He’s not interested in learning it after his second massive defeat, either. Even with Bill Clinton’s more strategic direction, Democrats ended up losing narrowly at the end of his presidency. Obama may be leading Democrats into a reverse 2008, or perhaps even worse.


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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2019, 09:33:45 AM »
Obama warned he would intervene to stop Bernie, had cutting words for Biden: report
Fox News ^ | 11/26/2019 | Ronn Blitzer
Posted on 11/26/2019, 10:07:58

Former President Barack Obama once warned he would intervene to stop Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., from winning the Democratic presidential nomination, according to a new report that sheds light on Obama’s personal views of the jam-packed primary field with no clear front-runner.

Obama has largely stayed on the sidelines to date, refraining from any endorsements though he has issued general warnings to the party to avoid calls for radical upheaval in their policy pitches. These warnings were seen as a swipe at candidates like Sens. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., and Sanders.

But a new Politico Magazine report gives a clearer picture of what Obama is worried about — claiming he has said in private he’d speak out against Sanders if it looked like he could actually win. […]

The Politico piece said Obama recalled to one candidate who came to him for advice how he himself had a bond with the voters that has since faded. He reportedly added, “And you know who really doesn’t have it? Joe Biden.” …

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2019, 02:44:56 PM »
Please dear God let the egomaniac, sow Moochelle Obama run for President.

Doesn’t matter what year, just let her run.

I really want to see that Republican landslide win

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2019, 04:47:18 PM »
Michelle is too busy banning sugary snacks in schools to run for any office  ;D
I heard she may run...in a local 5k to promote good health habits.

Or transitioning.

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2019, 04:50:08 PM »
Why does everybody including Obama want to destroy Bernie? Hillary fixed the last primary against him(she was losing) and now Obama says he would actively speak out against Bernie.



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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2019, 07:21:09 AM »
Why does everybody including Obama want to destroy Bernie? Hillary fixed the last primary against him(she was losing) and now Obama says he would actively speak out against Bernie.




Trump wasn’t part of the establishment, and neither is Bernie. “They” would begin to lose their control.

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Re: Obama has been a DISASTER for the Dem Party
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2019, 07:53:51 AM »
Why does everybody including Obama want to destroy Bernie? Hillary fixed the last primary against him(she was losing) and now Obama says he would actively speak out against Bernie.




Just a hunch, but it’s probably because he is a senile communist fool?