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Title: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 17, 2012, 02:08:04 PM
Myself I play a Gibson Marauder, not a very popular Gibson, but I love it...wanna buy an old Rick some day...
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Post by: Borracho on February 17, 2012, 02:38:42 PM
for some reason I always liked the fender telecaster and jaguar look.
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Post by: mesmorph78 on February 17, 2012, 02:43:03 PM
fender
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Post by: Voland on February 17, 2012, 02:44:17 PM
i play and electro acoustic yamaha.
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Post by: dyslexic on February 17, 2012, 02:47:10 PM
Strats, Kramers, Les Pauls and Ibanez. These are some of my fav's...


The Ibanez is a Steve Vai JEM7MV with a Fernandes Sustainer (front pickup)

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzela-1.jpg)
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Post by: hrspwr on February 17, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
I have an Aria pro II I bought new in 84, still going.
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Post by: YoungBlood on February 17, 2012, 03:55:12 PM


Depends on the style I'm playing. Overall, my favorite guitar is my '63 Epiphone Riviera. Bought it in high school and it's been my favorite ever since. Even had it stolen once & got it back to fall even more in love with it.
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Post by: Radical Plato on February 17, 2012, 03:57:22 PM
Myself I play a Gibson Marauder, not a very popular Gibson, but I love it...wanna buy an old Rick some day...
Currently play a Yamaha Acoustic, have owned Maton's, Martin's, Cole Clarke's + heaps of others, and my favourite finger picking concert guitar I sold and always regretted was a beautiful little Ayres Guitar - Vietnamese buid I think.  I still love my yamaha and it's built in pickup.
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Post by: yates fan on February 17, 2012, 04:18:59 PM
strats,really like the srv model and the 60s reissues.
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Post by: outby43 on February 17, 2012, 04:45:30 PM
Strats, Kramers, Les Pauls and Ibanez. These are some of my fav's...


The Ibanez is a Steve Vai JEM7MV with a Fernandes Sustainer (front pickup)

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzela-1.jpg)

You like that Line 6 amp?
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Post by: slicksta on February 17, 2012, 04:55:33 PM
PRS all the way
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Post by: wes on February 17, 2012, 05:05:04 PM
Strats, Kramers, Les Pauls and Ibanez. These are some of my fav's...


The Ibanez is a Steve Vai JEM7MV with a Fernandes Sustainer (front pickup)

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzela-1.jpg)
Beautiful guitars bro.
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Post by: Obvious Gimmick on February 17, 2012, 05:06:05 PM
air
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Post by: wes on February 17, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
air
Same here,and I`m freakin` awesome!!  ;D
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Post by: IrishMuscle84 on February 17, 2012, 05:14:03 PM
I use to play the drums...........until i started having delusions.......... :-\
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Post by: bigmc on February 18, 2012, 12:51:11 AM
ibanez paul gilbert sig in white

plays like a dream
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Post by: Bobby on February 18, 2012, 02:45:29 AM
Strats, Kramers, Les Pauls and Ibanez. These are some of my fav's...


The Ibanez is a Steve Vai JEM7MV with a Fernandes Sustainer (front pickup)

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzela-1.jpg)

Nice! I'd like to see more of the strat, something special about white strats with rw boards :)
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Post by: freespirit on February 18, 2012, 02:51:06 AM
 8)

(http://images.esellerpro.com/2225/I/292/2/lrgSBUVOFT.jpg)
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Post by: outby43 on February 18, 2012, 03:34:17 AM
(http://www.thedailyrock.com/wp-content/uploads/guitars.jpg)
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on February 18, 2012, 05:05:42 AM
I have a bunch but my current fav is my new Les Paul. I usually end up going back to one of my ESPs. I have a Peavey Vandenbrg which plays like a dream too.
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Post by: Powerlift66 on February 18, 2012, 05:32:10 AM
I have 3 Basses, and 3 guitars.

Basses = Fender Precision (like Geddy Lee), Ibanez, and a 6-string Rogue.

Guitars = Ibanez acoustic, Ibanez electric and my fave, a Strat...

Google "Terrahsphere", my old metal band back in the late 90's. (We got signed and did one CD, then broke up  :>)
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on February 18, 2012, 05:43:56 AM
I have 3 Basses, and 3 guitars.

Basses = Fender Precision (like Geddy Lee), Ibanez, and a 6-string Rogue.

Guitars = Ibanez acoustic, Ibanez electric and my fave, a Strat...

Google "Terrahsphere", my old metal band back in the late 90's. (We got signed and did one CD, then broke up  :>)

Good stuff man, I really dig it. Progressive-Thrash? Similar to what I play/write.

Were you playing guitar or bass in the band? It's cool if you don't wanna say to remain somewhat anonymous.
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Post by: sync pulse on February 18, 2012, 05:47:21 AM
Just what is it with the current fascination with Vacuum tube Class B power amplifiers (with 6L6gc balanced outputs)?  Solid state electronics work so much better and don't have the performance trail off of vacuum tube circuity!
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on February 18, 2012, 05:52:52 AM
Just what is it with the current fascination with Vacuum tube Class B power amplifiers (with 6L6gc balanced outputs)?  Solid state electronics work so much better and don't have the performance trail off of vacuum tube circuity!

I've got both and prefer tube sounds. Solid state is a bit more responsive imo but I still go back to my tube amps for the sound. May send my 5150 ii head in to Voodoo Mods. Still hemin and hawin over that though.

Should add that this was my main guitar till I picked up the Les Paul.

http://bit.ly/y98pdm

I'm the first vid result.

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Post by: smoothasf on February 18, 2012, 05:55:45 AM
Usa 92 fender stratocaster floydrose hss and a tokai ls150
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Post by: MikMaq on February 18, 2012, 05:55:59 AM
I also have a homemade fretless, an electric, an acoustic ovation clone as well.
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Post by: sync pulse on February 18, 2012, 06:04:38 AM
I've got both and prefer tube sounds. Solid state is a bit more responsive imo but I still go back to my tube amps for the sound. May send my 5150 ii head in to Voodoo Mods. Still hemin and hawin over that though.

Should add that this was my main guitar till I picked up the Les Paul.

http://bit.ly/y98pdm

I'm the first vid result.



That "tube sound" is noise and distortion!
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Post by: Powerlift66 on February 18, 2012, 06:10:35 AM
I have 3 Basses, and 3 guitars.

Basses = Fender Precision (like Geddy Lee), Ibanez, and a 6-string Rogue.

Guitars = Ibanez acoustic, Ibanez electric and my fave, a Strat...

Google "Terrahsphere", my old metal band back in the late 90's. (We got signed and did one CD, then broke up  :>)

Some pics...

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Post by: YngiweRhoads on February 18, 2012, 06:14:30 AM
That "tube sound" is noise and distortion!

Different sounds my friend. I play on both depending on how I feel. Basically it boils down to personal preference.
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Post by: HTexan on February 18, 2012, 06:40:57 AM
Fender. Love the stat. The mustang is the beautiful electric guitar ever made.
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Post by: 240 is Back on February 18, 2012, 06:45:12 AM
i play a musicman bass, standard black, for most gigging situations.  i have some cool ibanez' that play like a dream, a fender you can count on, but NOTHING touches the musicman for solid pro tone.

now for guitar, i just picked up a parker fly mojo.  amazing guitar.   price tag was high, but it's dual electric and acoustic outputs.  I can go from solo acousitc shows with perfect tone (on a fast 24 fret neck) to throwing down RATM on bigger stages with full bands.  never goes out of tune, composite, great pickups, etc.  It's 3300, but the only guitar you need.

For home playing, anything works.  For gigging, the musicman and parker are the workhorses!
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Post by: dyslexic on February 18, 2012, 07:14:18 AM
To answer the questions:

Yes, I like the Line 6 for various reasons, but I also have a room full of rack-mount and floor effects. The Line 6 allows me to quickly write rhythm tracks, drum tracks and guitar tracks. I can also quickly overlay tracks. The amp has a decent sound. Anytime I demo one in Guitar Center, someone is gonna buy one. THey can sound that good.

The Frenzel tube amp was hand-made for me to my specs. It actually has two channels: A Fender and a Marshall setting. That amp is for clubbing and playing LOUD. Once the tubes warm up, I can use a Variac type control to get a very unique sound that SS cannot.

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzeld-1.jpg)

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzelc-1.jpg)

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzelf-1.jpg)


"Point to Point" wiring ~ nothing like SS circuitry:

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzele-1.jpg)

I love the Paul too, it has a tone that can't be duplicated...

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/Frenzelg-1.jpg)


(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/ibanezclc.jpg)

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/JEMandMarshall-1.jpg)
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Post by: smoothasf on February 18, 2012, 07:37:19 AM
Marshall avt 150? I have the 275
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Post by: UGMT on February 18, 2012, 08:02:47 AM
I mainly play my classical Yamaha. It's a CG something or other; wasn't too pricey at all. Really a quality instrument especially for the money. I have a Music Man Axis also although I rarely play electric. That too is a fantastic instrument. If I could have any electric would probably be an old Gretsch Country Gentleman..
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Post by: phil mcgroin on February 18, 2012, 08:30:35 AM
I have a 1976 les paul deluxe natural in mint condition for sale
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Post by: HTexan on February 18, 2012, 08:44:10 AM
I also have a homemade fretless, an electric, an acoustic ovation clone as well.
Warmoth?
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Post by: PJim on February 18, 2012, 09:09:36 AM
Here's my baby a negra flamenco model. (Solid Indian Rosewood back and sides with a Solid German Spruce top)
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Post by: Nirvana on February 18, 2012, 09:14:24 AM
I have a plethora of guitars and effects and own nearly every amp in production.  I know all the trivial facts about guitars and have memorized every scale and mode.  I can talk for hours about how I know the different guitar brands and their sounds.  I pretend that i can hear the difference between string brands and I labor under the illusion that Gibsons are better than Epiphones.  I am a theoretical guitar god.






































and all my music sounds like fuckin' shit
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Post by: V Man on February 18, 2012, 09:31:22 AM
My babies  :)
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Post by: dyslexic on February 18, 2012, 11:13:54 AM
I have a plethora of guitars and effects and own nearly every amp in production.  I know all the trivial facts about guitars and have memorized every scale and mode.  I can talk for hours about how I know the different guitar brands and their sounds.  I pretend that i can hear the difference between string brands and I labor under the illusion that Gibsons are better than Epiphones.  I am a theoretical guitar god.


and the illusion that Fenders are better than Squiers?


I want to know about the whole tone scale and how it intertwines perfectly with the fifth mode of the harmonic minor scale (and why) ~ please also tell me the name of each mode in the harmonic minor scale.


TIA  :-*
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Post by: smoothasf on February 18, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
Ive got a squire and though its a great guitar there is no comparison to the usa strat.
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Post by: HTexan on February 18, 2012, 11:48:52 AM

and the illusion that Fenders are better than Squiers?


I want to know about the whole tone scale and how it intertwines perfectly with the fifth mode of the harmonic minor scale (and why) ~ please also tell me the name of each mode in the harmonic minor scale.


TIA  :-*

They Are.

Cheaper wood = crappy tone
cheaper electronics
The guitar will not last as long as a fender.
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Post by: Fortress on February 18, 2012, 11:58:17 AM
The guitar of my hero, Jeff Waters of Annihilator: the Epiphone Annihilation. Red.
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on February 18, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
The guitar of my hero, Jeff Waters of Annihilator: the Epiphone Annihilation. Red.

Waters is one of my fav metal guitarists. Alice in Hell is a definite classic.
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Post by: sync pulse on February 18, 2012, 06:31:20 PM
Why did you option for unbalanced ins and outs instead of balanced with XLR connections?  Balanced are better for keeping out hum.
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Post by: Nirvana on February 18, 2012, 07:17:41 PM

and the illusion that Fenders are better than Squiers?


I want to know about the whole tone scale and how it intertwines perfectly with the fifth mode of the harmonic minor scale (and why) ~ please also tell me the name of each mode in the harmonic minor scale.


TIA  :-*
I just got through making fun of shit like this.  did you not understand?

let's use an example or 3, Kurdt Kobain, Eddie Van Halen, and Angus Young could have never answered the question you asked.  yet they will always be very important musical people.  Proving theory, equipment, and trivial knowledge useless.
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Post by: Nirvana on February 18, 2012, 07:25:57 PM
when are you fellers gonna learn that buying a different guitar or set of strings or learning theory will not give you the gift of music.  If it did the person with the nicest equipment would be who everyone listened to.  Instead we all listen to EVH with his shitty charvel reject body and mix and match guitar.  Stop learning theory and learn reality.

and no Im not rich or famous but that doesn't matter, Justin Biever is rich and famous and we all know how skilled he is.  Hell, Nickelback is rich and famous and they don't even write their own music from what I hear.
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Post by: outby43 on February 18, 2012, 07:30:56 PM
I just got through making fun of shit like this.  did you not understand?

let's use an example or 3, Kurdt Kobain, Eddie Van Halen, and Angus Young could have never answered the question you asked.  yet they will always be very important musical people.  Proving theory, equipment, and trivial knowledge useless.

I don't think it is useless.  Many players learn by trial and error which in turn winds up as theory.  They kind of do it backwards. I agree though....if it sounds good then that's all that matters.
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Post by: Nirvana on February 18, 2012, 07:38:23 PM
I don't think it is useless.  Many players learn by trial and error which in turn winds up as theory.  They kind of do it backwards. I agree though....if it sounds good then that's all that matters.
yes learning theory will never hurt, it's always good to learn theory. but when it comes to the arts a degree is just a piece of paper that cost too much. and theory is just that, a theory.
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Post by: dyslexic on February 18, 2012, 08:14:34 PM
I just got through making fun of shit like this.  did you not understand?

let's use an example or 3, Kurdt Kobain, Eddie Van Halen, and Angus Young could have never answered the question you asked.  yet they will always be very important musical people.  Proving theory, equipment, and trivial knowledge useless.

I was joking too, Beavis.


I actually know the answers to the question(s) ~ as do many others, including Yngwie.


Peace.



As far as the hum with my Frenzel, I'm not sure if you know what you are talking about (other guy) ~ do you know everything there is to know about point-to-point? Did you see everything on that amp? Can you explain to me the cathode?

There was no hum, whatsoever, at any volume. You should be commenting on the types of tubes I plugged into it.


BTW, I am more of a solid state guy. This handmade Frenzel was an opportunity that I could not pass up. It would have been foolish.


Also (other guy) ~ :) you shouldn't comment about Strats if you don't know what you are talking about. Cheaper wood? Who cares? Do you know what JEMs are made of?


My Squiers will out-perform (with me playing of course) any Strat, or other guitar for that matter - the only bitch I could possibly have is within the machine heads, but I don't like Strat machines either. I would go to another company and flip them even if I had to, but I have learned over the years how to make things work to my advantage.


Put up.


I know I have. Many times.



As far as learning theory (even another guy) ~ you may think it not important, but when you do learn it, inside and out, not only can you play ANYTHING, you can also identify anything you hear musically.


Some players brag about being self-taught, and they always hit the wrong notes. "Theory" in this sense is not theory as far as what you might think. It is a universally accepted science when it comes to music. It is objective, in the true sense of the word.


Guitarists and musicians cannot associate very long with other musicians who do not know their theory, otherwise, collaborating would become nothing more than a glorified classroom setting.


Learning theory in music allows you to travel as the crow flies when it comes to playing, learning and developing musical composition. It allows you to compose without having any musical instruments in your hands. The only real problem is when theory overrides your style. The numbers become too mathematical, and the playing can easily become stale.


If you learn music theory, you will not spend much time listening to musicians who don't.


Wanna talk about the "Devils Tritone?" ~ it's not "theory" but it is interesting. Flatted fifths turned to tonics became evil many moons ago, yet in passing they are considered 'bluesy...'


The gift of music? The ear. You either have it or you don't. You might develop it over time, but perfect pitch is a gift that only a rare few have.


Rock on.
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Post by: dyslexic on February 18, 2012, 08:37:54 PM
Wouldn't even attempted to learn this song if I did not know my music theory. Steve Vai transcribed for the great Frank Zappa. I would have spent a lifetime learning it as opposed to a few hours.

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Post by: bic_staedtler on February 18, 2012, 09:25:20 PM
I was joking too, Beavis.




My Squiers will out-perform (with me playing of course) any Strat, or other guitar for that matter

Well at least you're humble  ::)
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Post by: dyslexic on February 18, 2012, 10:13:24 PM
Well at least you're humble  ::)


Well...


what can I say?


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Post by: smoothasf on February 18, 2012, 11:32:43 PM
Play arpeggios from hell in a couple of hours, then post it up
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on February 19, 2012, 04:19:18 AM
Play arpeggios from hell in a couple of hours, then post it up

Yngwie plays too slow.


Regarding the El Cheapo guitars. Some Cheapos are ok other are well....crap. Ever play a Mann or a Hondo? Don't.  :)

The dude I bought my Les Paul from had an old El Degas LP copy. It didn't play anywhere near as well but the sound coming out was pretty close to my actual Les Paul.
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Post by: bic_staedtler on February 19, 2012, 06:02:56 PM

Well...


what can I say?




Nothing, I just don't agree with some things you said.  First, theory has it's place...nice to know, but definitely not a pre-requisite.  As long as you have an idea of what chord progressions are, you're fine.  That takes about 10 minutes to teach to somebody, as opposed to making guitarists feel they need to know how to read sheet music (which IMO is all but completely useless for rock guitar, tablature is a much better system for learning songs).  Gifted musicians don't need to know anything about reading music because they're gifted, and they have an ear for what sounds good.  Like Yngwie says, "If it sounds good, it IS good." 

Also, Squire Strats are nice beginners instruments.  But if you think you sound better on your Squire Mexi-Strat than on your USA made Eric Johnson model, then I don't know what to tell you.  I don't wanna get into that argument, all I can say is that I have never, ever played an import that was on the same quality level as a USA made guitar, period.  You can feel the difference, and hear it (although much is in the pickups of course).  While I agree that great pickups made a cheaper guitar sound better, there's more to it than that.  Imports make nice stage guitars, something you're not afraid to get banged up. 

Now, back to "greasy men in thongs prancing for judges approval" time.
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Post by: dyslexic on February 19, 2012, 07:08:09 PM
Well, let's see. First off, do you know music theory? If so, then you can *argue* ~ if not, how can you argue on a topic you know nothing about? Chord progressions? That basic?

It's about settling for less. I don't.


"Arpeggios from hell" ~ personally, arpeggios don't get my blood going, so, leave it to the arpeggio fans. That's just me.


As far as the Strat argument, I have American made, Mexican and Chinese.


Here's the rub. If I played each, and you had your back turned and only your ears to rely upon, would you actually bet money that you could tell the difference? Could you identify each guitar and where it was made and what kind I was playing?


I am laughing, and will continue to do so.


BTW, I don't believe I said that theory was a pre-requisite. If I did, then I was mistaken.


Also, I did NOT say that I cannot feel a quality difference in a cheaper guitar. I wouldn't dare. What I am implying is that you can NOT hear the difference.


So much is lost in translation from my mind to my fingers and to the keyboard.


As far as my mind, to the fingers and to the frets, well... I'm not going to "argue" with anyone, because I prefer judgement on performance, not vocabulary.


I am not a great guitar player. Yeah, I am good, but I missed the mark on greatness. I am nothing more than a wanna be clone, BUT! I do know my music and I do have an ear.


Go figure.


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Post by: bic_staedtler on February 19, 2012, 09:58:55 PM
Good reply, lots of points, and yes, I did look a bit more into your previous reply than what was there. 

I know enough music theory to be dangerous ;D , as far as guitar playing goes.  Modal theory, scales and chord construction, intervals and such.  I don't read notation but I can figure out what the keys are and I rely on them for timing, which is invaluable compared to tablature.  So I feel I can talk the talk when it comes to theory, but really, you can never know too much. 

Listening to your version of FTLOG, kudos to the time it takes to tab something out.  I didn't realize that was you (or your top o' the line JEM), and knowing theory can make sure you don't hit 'wrong' sounding notes, and you have an idea of where Vai is going.  Lots of interpretation of phrasing, and you certainly can play.  I've got the tab book for it but have never taken the time, mainly cause I don't really like the tune.  I'm more into the faster tunes from Passion and Warefare (Erotic Nightmares). 

Ya know, when it comes to sound, on the electric guitar, you have a point: you can't really tell the difference if you didn't know where it was made.  I've got two guitars, one Korean and one USA made, and the difference is mainly feel.  I can't even say sustain is different.  I guess the best I can put it is that the better a guitar feels, the better I play, therefore the more I'll practice and the better I'll sound.  If they can decent wiring, the wood makes very little difference (that I can tell) in tone, but it's that quality factor (staying in tune, good fretwork, good pickups).

I've met way too many stuck up guitarists who are snobby about different things; don't think I'm lumping you in there, of course, I don't know you but usually it goes like this: theory snob, gear snob, tone snob.  And lots of these snobs don't even play that well; I certainly don't judge the merit of a musician on their command of music theory, and from what I can tell you don't either.  I'll go check out some more of your vids.
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Post by: dyslexic on February 19, 2012, 11:48:01 PM
Nothing like a good debate.

"Knowledge is Power" ~

You sound like an intelligent guy.


Let me give you an example where I am coming from: When I first learned to play the guitar I was trying to learn Nazareth songs. Chord progressions worked just fine for me. "Now your messin' with a son of a bitch...." (am I dating myself with that one?)

Next was (of course) "Stairway to Heaven"

Then came "Eruption" ~ OMG I wish I had known theory back then!!!! I sat by my record player and I kept moving that needle back over and over, surely thousands of times. In reality, nobody really knew that Ed was using his right hand, but he was also using the whole tone scale, flatted fifths (not the "Devil's Tritone" like Hendrix) and he was very *blues* oriented.

It took me years of study to finally figure out where he was coming from. By this time I had learned music theory. In depth. Numbers up the ass. My playing had become stale, but man was it technical. People that listened to me play said that I lacked the "feeling" that I once had. Imagine my dismay. Music theory had made me a more "technical" guitar player, but now I had to go back and kind of *forget* what I had learned to regain my drive. Weird.


Anyway, along comes Yngwie Malmsteen. It took me two seconds to identify his playing. I really had no interest in learning what he was playing (although as a guitar instructor I was forced to...) ~

I didn't even have a guitar in my hands and I clearly heard 1) the diatonic minor scale 2) the diminished scale 3) the Harmonic Minor scale (but I knew that he was using a mode of the Harmonic minor, which I in turn labeled "the Altered Dominant mode [5th] of the Harmonic minor scale) ~ and most everything followed in sequence, was predictable (IMHO) and arpeggiated.


I was relieved to know music theory at this point, otherwise I would have spent so much time NOT "traveling as the crow flies"


BTW, Steve Vai's "Passion and Warfare" was also my favorite. After that, he got too weird. Maybe it was all the acid he took?


My first meeting with him was at a NAMM show in Anaheim, Ca. ~ Nobody knew who he was, and he was NOT arrogant. I actually jammed with him on a Boogie Mesa amp through headphones. I thought he was just another guitar player. I guess when I heard "Blue Powder" on the plastic disc inside of Guitar Player magazine 25 years ago, I figured we were kind of inevitably hooked at the waist.

That JEM even has a Fernandes Sustainer installed and is a direct replica of "Flo" (his love)

If you Google "Steve Vai Fernandes Sustainer" you will see only two videos come up - his, and mine.... I'm not arrogant, but I am proud.


I guess we better get back to our regularly scheduled program here, huh? A WYHI thread maybe?


Peace.
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: bic_staedtler on February 20, 2012, 12:44:21 AM
Good post.  I remember that issue, couldn't get it to play on my sister's record player.  I listened to Flex-able right after I spent a summer listening to nothing but Passion and Warfare and Flying in a Blue Dream...that's when I learned Steve Vai was insane. Lol.  I'm a big Jack Butler fan, myself.

Back to the world of soiled posing trunks sold on ebay!
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: smoothasf on February 20, 2012, 12:47:04 AM
I could most definatly tell the difference between my chinese strat and my usa. Probably not a mexican though.  The chinese strat is a distinctly thinner sound when playing lower notes. I love my chinese strat, it has a thinner neck and through an effects pedal there is no way you could tell the difference. Unplugged im 100% sure I could.
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: smoothasf on February 20, 2012, 01:01:17 AM
Just you tubed it theres loads. Is that you playing.it with your tongue?
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: dyslexic on February 20, 2012, 08:24:50 AM
Just you tubed it theres loads. Is that you playing.it with your tongue?


I suppose my instinctual reply would be "no way" ~ but yeah, that's me. One of the only vids I did without any forethought and it gets planted right next to Vai's and almost has 100K views.


Whooda thunk it?
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: G_Thang on February 20, 2012, 08:51:42 AM
I owned a Taylor, which was destroyed during a hurricane.

(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/public/lkqCeZqN6ifamcX8uPKJry1Xyiz5B7uuyZLx0Bxmq5YC7BW2PYL5QO9AEIpNHUfX1yjJnQPxREgo1RRHFZmKGy1shw_MiGTR_HOND-cJeTBBCSVsqyvWl5RzgFrZkjDGIyFksv-7DXGspDLt4yZxgDECjQHYlU8f7s_7XFEfvw)

Mahogany, just keeping it brown.
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: dyslexic on February 20, 2012, 11:24:06 AM
I owned a Taylor, which was destroyed during a hurricane.

(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/public/lkqCeZqN6ifamcX8uPKJry1Xyiz5B7uuyZLx0Bxmq5YC7BW2PYL5QO9AEIpNHUfX1yjJnQPxREgo1RRHFZmKGy1shw_MiGTR_HOND-cJeTBBCSVsqyvWl5RzgFrZkjDGIyFksv-7DXGspDLt4yZxgDECjQHYlU8f7s_7XFEfvw)

Mahogany, just keeping it brown.


Great guitars. Martins too... now those ARE DEFINITELY guitars that can be identified without looking. Who can afford em'?
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 20, 2012, 11:25:30 AM
I owned a Taylor, which was destroyed during a hurricane.

(http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/public/lkqCeZqN6ifamcX8uPKJry1Xyiz5B7uuyZLx0Bxmq5YC7BW2PYL5QO9AEIpNHUfX1yjJnQPxREgo1RRHFZmKGy1shw_MiGTR_HOND-cJeTBBCSVsqyvWl5RzgFrZkjDGIyFksv-7DXGspDLt4yZxgDECjQHYlU8f7s_7XFEfvw)

Mahogany, just keeping it brown.
That only contributes to the cool.... 8) 8)
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 20, 2012, 11:28:21 AM
Guitar experts: I wanna buy an acoustic bass guitar. With plug in possibility of course. Think there are any around that can produce enough volume to use them without amp ?
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: Nirvana on February 20, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
Guitar experts: I wanna buy an acoustic bass guitar. With plug in possibility of course. Think there are any around that can produce enough volume to use them without amp ?
it has to be a fender or gibson.  if it's not, you'll be a terrible musician.  the sticker on the headstock is all that matters in "music"
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: HTexan on February 20, 2012, 02:19:17 PM
Guitar experts: I wanna buy an acoustic bass guitar. With plug in possibility of course. Think there are any around that can produce enough volume to use them without amp ?
check out ibanez. The best thing to do is to check one out in the store. DO NOT buy it tho. Go back a second time and play with it again before you spend the money.
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: 240 is Back on February 20, 2012, 02:28:27 PM
the dean $150 acoustic bass is pretty lame, but a decent practice bass.  never to be played live.
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: HTexan on February 20, 2012, 02:30:26 PM
the dean $150 acoustic bass is pretty lame, but a decent practice bass.  never to be played live.
sometimes you can find some good cheap ones with some luck and looking around.
Title: Re: Getbig guitar players....your favourite guitar(s)...
Post by: warma on February 21, 2012, 02:56:04 AM
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