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just because ur bigger, worker harder, have denser muscle bellis...dey think ur on da sauuce.....
discusss
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i am a hardcore natural and love it when people look shocked when i tell them i am not on any juice. makes me feel realy good.
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i am a hardcore natural and love it when people look shocked when i tell them i am not on any juice. makes me feel realy good.
It does feel good, but most people that haven't known you long don't believe you when you say no, which can be annoying at times...but who really cares what some fag thinks. As long as you look good who gives a shit.
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just because ur bigger, worker harder, have denser muscle bellis...dey think ur on da sauuce.....
discusss
it sucks man, these fuccking haters don't believe you can be 275 pounds at 5'7" shredded to the bizznone and benching 600 for 10 raw, what's wrong with people? ;D
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naturals are the truth, they are what bodybuilding truly represents
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i am a hardcore natural and love it when people look shocked when i tell them i am not on any juice. makes me feel realy good.
you must be quite the beast. LMAO...
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naturals are the truth, they are what bodybuilding truly represents
in theory.....but most live in REALITY
show me a natural on the olympia stage
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in theory.....but most live in REALITY
show me a natural on the olympia stage
The Mr Olympia is associated with IFBB pro bodybuilding, thats not bodybuilding. Its chemical enchancement
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The Mr Olympia is associated with IFBB pro bodybuilding, thats not bodybuilding. Its chemical enchancement
riiiiiight. as sad as it may be, the olympia is the pinnacle of bodybuilding...PERIOD. it is the mark of the "sport" ::)
btw, we are ALL chemically enhanced.....whether you like it or not.
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riiiiiight. as sad as it may be, the olympia is the pinnacle of bodybuilding...PERIOD. it is the mark of the "sport" ::)
btw, we are ALL chemically enhanced.....whether you like it or not.
Yeah. Creatine, glutamine, and steroids given to chickens you eat....it's all the same. ::)
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riiiiiight. as sad as it may be, the olympia is the pinnacle of bodybuilding...PERIOD. it is the mark of the "sport" ::)
btw, we are ALL chemically enhanced.....whether you like it or not.
Depends on where you are coming from
I would say the 'Natural Mr Olympia' is the pinnacle of true bodybuilding, or atleast the closest thing to it in terms of competition.
The Mr Olympia is simply the pinnacle for a chemically enhanced sport. Thats not true bodybuilding.
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Depends on where you are coming from
I would say the 'Natural Mr Olympia' is the pinnacle of true bodybuilding, or atleast the closest thing to it in terms of competition.
The Mr Olympia is simply the pinnacle for a chemically enhanced sport. Thats not true bodybuilding.
WELL ur part right,except one pays 5000 or under and the other on is 150,000 1st place.shows you how important the whole scope of things is brought to light.
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If a person wants to take steroids, go ahead. Its a free world (or at least it used to be).
But give the "we are all enhanced" bullshit a rest. You are on or you are not. Man up and get on with your life.
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If a person wants to take steroids, go ahead. Its a free world (or at least it used to be).
But give the "we are all enhanced" bullshit a rest. You are on or you are not. Man up and get on with your life.
we all are "enhanced" by some means...weather its knowledge or coffee in the morning.....steroids are the the blame to people's greed
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we all are "enhanced" by some means...weather its knowledge or coffee in the morning.....steroids are the the blame to people's greed
I think what he means is that some people take androgenic/anabolic steriods, gh, and exogenous insulin, and other do not. We can argue until we're blue in the mouth about middle ground shit like the T boosting effects of tribulus or gh enhancement of gaba or Ldopa, but in general I agree - you're using hormones or you're not.
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we all are "enhanced" by some means...weather its knowledge or coffee in the morning.....steroids are the the blame to people's greed
Yes, we can be enhanced by enlightenment and wisdom, but the topic at hand is about training natural or with steroids.
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Preachy naturals are just as bad as preachy steroid users.
Just as bad as pushy people who try to espouse their religious or political beliefs all the time.
If you don't ask them about steroids, they shouldn't bring it up.
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just because ur bigger, worker harder, have denser muscle bellis...dey think ur on da sauuce.....
discusss
Are you saying I shouldn't holla "ALL NATURAL, BABY!!!" after ripping my shirt off in public ???
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they tend to be judgmental.. self righteous assholes.
yes I have used juice.. ha.
Exactly. These self rightious assholes probably refused their polio shots as kids that their so drug anal.
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Yeah. Creatine, glutamine, and steroids given to chickens you eat....it's all the same. ::)
didnt say they were the same....just said we are all chemically enhanced....one way or another. its all how you look at it.
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Are you saying I shouldn't holla "ALL NATURAL, BABY!!!" after ripping my shirt off in public ???
I've been doing it all wrong it seems.
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IM a hardcore natural
people hating nothing new nothing new bro
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just because ur bigger, worker harder, have denser muscle bellis...dey think ur on da sauuce.....
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the pic of gear your using as an avatar prolly isn't helping you out.
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I don't really focus on what other people do; I'll just say that, going the drug route isn't appealing to me.
Maybe it's because I'm the guy that never uses cheat codes on video games.
I'll tell you that, if you have a very exaggerated physique, people WILL snicker behind your back;
all your gains WILL be chalked up to steroids.
I've seen people do it to obvious steroid users. They didn't say, "look at how jacked that guy is!." They just laughed.
As a natural, I get frequent, sincere compliments.
What do I see when I look at a steroid user?
(The question is, "what do I assume?", since this won't be true of every person putting a needle in their ass)
Foremost, I see insecurity.
I also see a person that lacks willpower or a great work ethic.
I think many "juicers" started natural, didn't get results fast, and decided to take the easy route.
In that sense, they are no different from fat people buying some fad diet pill in hopes of instant weight loss.
The difference is, of course, steroids actually work.
I hope they realise that depression will one day kick in, because once they lose their juice supply,
all those muscles will be gone as fast as they came.
As a natural, you'll never have to experience that.
Now when I get older...say around 30...I might just consider jumping ship and joining "the darkside."
By then, I'll have shifted my priorities from physical to mental endeavors;
I'll have accomplished everything I could have in bodybuilding.
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Hell is other people.
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Jame,s,, if you ever want to look like a TRUE bber and not a scandanavian housewife,, you will realize hormone use is REQUIRED,,, listen to me when i give you this knowledge. as long as you STAY natural,, you LOOK natural,,,, true hardcore bbers use hormones to look like bber should, bigger,, leaner , harder than any natural bber,,,,if there is such a thing,
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Jame,s,, if you ever want to look like a TRUE bber and not a scandanavian housewife,, you will realize hormone use is REQUIRED,,, listen to me when i give you this knowledge. as long as you STAY natural,, you LOOK natural,,,, true hardcore bbers use hormones to look like bber should, bigger,, leaner , harder than any natural bber,,,,if there is such a thing,
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Yes.
I look big to most people, and I know everything I've gained is due to hard work, not a drug.
It has no value to me if it's not earned.
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Yes.
I look big to most people, and I know everything I've gained is due to hard work, not a drug.
It has no value to me if it's not earned.
I am happy to hear thhis from you,, it sounds like youve choesn your path and are not looking back,,,, congratulations James,, however , dont believe hormone gains=effortless,,, true bbers build proper base before going to the "darkside" as youlike to call it,, and train even harder once turning to hormnes to succeed in this endeavor. Iam certain "most people" do say you are big,, but when next to a bber there will be HUGE difference stevei wonder could see,,, train hard be well James
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I am happy to hear thhis from you,, it sounds like youve choesn your path and are not looking back,,,, congratulations James,, however , dont believe hormone gains=effortless,,, true bbers build proper base before going to the "darkside" as youlike to call it,, and train even harder once turning to hormnes to succeed in this endeavor. Iam certain "most people" do say you are big,, but when next to a bber there will be HUGE difference stevei wonder could see,,, train hard be well James
How can I argue with the the bible and GOD of hormones?
I can't.
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I love naturals too, because they are all small and think they are big.
Naturals preach how its easy to be huge when your on gear, but in reality its just as easy to be a lean 160lbs when ur not.
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I love naturals too, because they are all small and think they are big.
Naturals preach how its easy to be huge when your on gear, but in reality its just as easy to be a lean 160lbs when ur not.
I like how you think Taco,, very true,,, so many "naturals" are mislead when it comes to hormones and the extent of what they do,,,, most naturals forget that something called GENETICS plays a major role in how the drugs affect you,, oh and can i get a number three with a large pepsi and extra salsa on my chalupa?
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How can I argue with the the bible and GOD of hormones?
I can't.
The bible is at your fingertips,, anytime James
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I like how you think Taco,, very true,,, so many "naturals" are mislead when it comes to hormones and the extent of what they do,,,, most naturals forget that something called GENETICS plays a major role in how the drugs affect you,, oh and can i get a number three with a large pepsi and extra salsa on my chalupa?
Do you know how much hormones are in a chalupa? ;D
James, you are a perfect example of all this, and I preface this with this is not meant to be disparaging.
You are not big, sure you may appear muscular to people who do not workout, but you look nothing like a 'bodybuilder', you are 'small'.
So saying that you gotten to where you have 'naturally', well no shit, you havent gotten anywhere.....its not about security/insecurity, its about satisfaction....I would not be satisfied to look like that.
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I am a natural because I am too cheap to buy steriods and using creatine hurts my insides, so I can't imagine if I did other things that I may be hurting even more.
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the only reason i'm not on the gas is that all the hook ups in my parts are gone
so, I too, am natural by necessity not by choice
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Do you know how much hormones are in a chalupa? ;D
James, you are a perfect example of all this, and I preface this with this is not meant to be disparaging.
You are not big, sure you may appear muscular to people who do not workout, but you look nothing like a 'bodybuilder', you are 'small'.
So saying that you gotten to where you have 'naturally', well no shit, you havent gotten anywhere.....its not about security/insecurity, its about satisfaction....I would not be satisfied to look like that.
There's absolutely nothing satisfying about muscles in a needle.
Taking steroids to get huge is nothing to be proud of; Tom Prince was a narrow guy with poor genetics, yet he blew up and became a mass monster.
Sure, some huge top rank bodybuilders like Jay Cutler are an extremely impressive sight, no doubt;
however, a regular Joe Bloggs with his 'average man genetics' and lack of work ethic getting big on the roids, is definitely not impressive!
It's true; I am considered small to people that are considered "all drugs" by society.
At least I can truthfully say, every ounce of muscle this ectomorph gained is entirely due to hard work.
Remember, there's another component here: Strength of will. That's partly genetic.
And I don't care if I'm considered big to wannabe pro bodybuilders; theirs, is a tiny subculture driven by muscle worshippers.
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problem with hardcore naturals is they always have a chip on their shoulder.
if they just fucked off everything would be cool, but it's always 'oh this guy is on so much shit because he's bigger then me...'
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There's absolutely nothing satisfying about muscles in a needle.
Taking steroids to get huge is nothing to be proud of; Tom Prince was a narrow guy with poor genetics, yet he blew up and became a mass monster.
Sure, some huge top rank bodybuilders like Jay Cutler are an extremely impressive sight, no doubt;
however, a regular Joe Bloggs with his 'average man genetics' and lack of work ethic getting big on the roids, is definitely not impressive!
It's true; I am considered small to people that are considered "all drugs" by society.
At least I can truthfully say, every ounce of muscle this ectomorph gained is entirely due to hard work.
Remember, there's another component here: Strength of will. That's partly genetic.
And I don't care if I'm considered big to wannabe pro bodybuilders; theirs, is a tiny subculture driven by muscle worshippers.
I think youre kinda missing my point, and how I'm using you as an example.
You say you are a 'natural'....well thats great, but it really doesnt matter because you're small.
Its one thing when you have an uber-impressive physique and claim natural status...like some people do be it true or not true, but now you've got all these people with non-impressive builds by any musculature standard claiming 'natural'.
But its like no shit youre natural, you dont look like anything.
I'm glad you've worked hard for every ounce of muscle, but you still only have a few ounces.
I just dont get why 'naturals' like to gloat about their hard work and dedication for miniscule results.
And you made a huge mistake in your 'average man genetics' and lack of work ethic statement. Classic example of thinking juicers dont train just as hard as anyone else.
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I don't really focus on what other people do; I'll just say that, going the drug route isn't appealing to me.
Maybe it's because I'm the guy that never uses cheat codes on video games.
I'll tell you that, if you have a very exaggerated physique, people WILL snicker behind your back;
all your gains WILL be chalked up to steroids.
I've seen people do it to obvious steroid users. They didn't say, "look at how jacked that guy is!." They just laughed.
NOW THAT'S FUCKING HARDCORE!
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I think youre kinda missing my point, and how I'm using you as an example.
You say you are a 'natural'....well thats great, but it really doesnt matter because you're small.
Its one thing when you have an uber-impressive physique and claim natural status...like some people do be it true or not true, but now you've got all these people with non-impressive builds by any musculature standard claiming 'natural'.
But its like no shit youre natural, you dont look like anything.
I'm glad you've worked hard for every ounce of muscle, but you still only have a few ounces.
I just dont get why 'naturals' like to gloat about their hard work and dedication for miniscule results.
And you made a huge mistake in your 'average man genetics' and lack of work ethic statement. Classic example of thinking juicers dont train just as hard as anyone else.
Haha. Ok, sure.
I definitely didn't miss your weak point.
First you admitted that I look big compared to the average person, now you change your mind because you took offense to what I said.
That's fine.
If someone posted a picture of Steve Reeves, many people will swear there's no way he could have built that physique without drugs.
Is he an impressive natural?
And yes, most juicers don't train hard at all. It's true. I see it all the time.
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Haha. Ok, sure.
I definitely didn't miss your weak point.
First you admitted that I look big compared to the average person, now you change your mind because you took offense to what I said.
That's fine.
If someone posted a picture of Steve Reeves, many people will swear there's no way he could have built that physique without drugs.
Is he an impressive natural?
And yes, most juicers don't train hard at all. It's true. I see it all the time.
HUH? I didnt take offense to anything, you do look big to a person who doesnt belong to a gym, but they say the same about 'Brad Pitt in fight club'.
You just say you dont care what 'muscleheads' think, yet u spam a bodybuilding board with your pics ???
In all of the your flexing, so you obvious think you have a physique, yet to the standard of 'muscle' you dont.
So stop using 'I'm natural' as an excuse.
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you're confusing genetically gifted with juicers... most juicers train their ass off.
Exactly.
Your 'average joe' juicer trains his ass off.
There will always be some genetic freak, who looks at the weight and grows, but thats the exception, not the rule.
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I just turned 22.
Congratulations on waiting until your 30s.
I imagine that, all those years training as a natural were much more satisfying knowing that you built your physique without chemical aid.
Dude stop talking about 'how u built your physique'......you havent built shit.
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Are there guys that train their asses off and juice? Of course.
I don't want to take that away from anyone, and if you are one of them you know it.
The problem is, it's difficult to tell how much of their physique is the result of training and hard work when you add another variable like drugs.
We have to take their word for it.
This is anecdotal evidence, but I've talked to many steroid users claiming they grew very quickly, with minimal training, while on the juice.
I'm tired. I'll continue this later. G'night.
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Are there guys that train their asses off and juice? Of course.
I don't want to take that away from anyone, and if you are one of them you know it.
The problem is, it's difficult to tell how much of their physique is the result of training and hard work when you add another variable like drugs.
We have to take their word for it.
This is anecdotal evidence, but I've talked to many steroid users claiming they grew very quickly, with minimal training, while on the juice.
I'm tired. I'll continue this later. G'night.
::)
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100% NATURAL FOR LIFE! (lol @ the slin/hgh injection spots)
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I've been doing it all wrong it seems.
Gets them every time, doesn't it?
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problem with hardcore naturals is they always have a chip on their shoulder.
if they just fucked off everything would be cool, but it's always 'oh this guy is on so much shit because he's bigger then me...'
Spot on!
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100% NATURAL FOR LIFE! (lol @ the slin/hgh injection spots)
can you please highlight these injection spots for me?
thank you very much.
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I don't really focus on what other people do; I'll just say that, going the drug route isn't appealing to me.
Maybe it's because I'm the guy that never uses cheat codes on video games.
I'll tell you that, if you have a very exaggerated physique, people WILL snicker behind your back;
all your gains WILL be chalked up to steroids.
I've seen people do it to obvious steroid users. They didn't say, "look at how jacked that guy is!." They just laughed.
As a natural, I get frequent, sincere compliments.
What do I see when I look at a steroid user?
(The question is, "what do I assume?", since this won't be true of every person putting a needle in their ass)
Foremost, I see insecurity.
I also see a person that lacks willpower or a great work ethic.
I think many "juicers" started natural, didn't get results fast, and decided to take the easy route.
In that sense, they are no different from fat people buying some fad diet pill in hopes of instant weight loss.
The difference is, of course, steroids actually work.
I hope they realise that depression will one day kick in, because once they lose their juice supply,
all those muscles will be gone as fast as they came.
As a natural, you'll never have to experience that.
Now when I get older...say around 30...I might just consider jumping ship and joining "the darkside."
By then, I'll have shifted my priorities from physical to mental endeavors;
I'll have accomplished everything I could have in bodybuilding.
coming from a fag-boy who cuts himself with razors? stfu.
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100% NATURAL FOR LIFE! (lol @ the slin/hgh injection spots)
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I look big to most people, and I know everything I've gained is due to hard work, not a drug.
It has no value to me if it's not earned.
You are an ignorant d-bag.
I normally just lurk around this board for a few good laughs and to catch up on bodybuilding gossip but this topic has gotten me pissed off enough to post.
The worst breed of gym rat is the holier-than-thou naturals who seem to possess some sense of purity for having bypassed steroids. I have HUGE respect for dudes who stay natural and don't waste their time bad mouthing those of us who choose to use horomones. The naturals who I f*cking hate are the individuals that chalk everything up to drug use and discount any physique superior to their own as simply a result of steroid use and nothing else.
I trained natural for the better part of 15 years - worked my ass off to try and get every last bit I could out of my own genetic potential with dedicated training and nutrition. I made very good gains but got to a point where it seemed I had maxed out my natural potential. The only logical choice to continue making gains and take my physique to the next level was choosing to move to the dark side. Trust me when I say this - I worked even HARDER and took my commitment to food to the next level in order to get every last ounce of benefit out of the first cycle I did. There was no way I was going to accept the risk as well as spend the money on the drugs without doing everything possible to maximize the gains. My approach to every cycle since that time has been identical - if you are taking steroids and not working your ass off to get the most out of the drugs you are wasting your time and taking a needless risk.
I train at a facility where I am outnumbered by several natural bodybuilders. They are f*cking haters...plain and simple. I catch them in the mirror counting my reps and "discreetly" keeping tabs on my workout. It is annoying, you wouldn't know these jokers were even "bodybuilders" unless they came out and told you so. Their sense of righteousness is sickening. I go out of my way to keep my distance - always wear headphones, minimal socializing and no tank tops or ridiculous Under Armour gear - and yet the gossip and disapproving looks are predictable and routine.
Major respect to Naturals who "Live and Let Live..." The righteous ones need to get honest about their envy and fascination pointing out everybody else whom they suspect is "on".
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Gets them every time, doesn't it?
If by "gets them" you mean "make them flee" then yes.
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If by "gets them" you mean "make them flee" then yes.
No I meant stare in disbelief and awe for hours.
You know, kind of like with a car wreck.
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You are an ignorant d-bag.
I normally just lurk around this board for a few good laughs and to catch up on bodybuilding gossip but this topic has gotten me pissed off enough to post.
The worst breed of gym rat is the holier-than-thou naturals who seem to possess some sense of purity for having bypassed steroids. I have HUGE respect for dudes who stay natural and don't waste their time bad mouthing those of us who choose to use horomones. The naturals who I f*cking hate are the individuals that chalk everything up to drug use and discount any physique superior to their own as simply a result of steroid use and nothing else.
I trained natural for the better part of 15 years - worked my ass off to try and get every last bit I could out of my own genetic potential with dedicated training and nutrition. I made very good gains but got to a point where it seemed I had maxed out my natural potential. The only logical choice to continue making gains and take my physique to the next level was choosing to move to the dark side. Trust me when I say this - I worked even HARDER and took my commitment to food to the next level in order to get every last ounce of benefit out of the first cycle I did. There was no way I was going to accept the risk as well as spend the money on the drugs without doing everything possible to maximize the gains. My approach to every cycle since that time has been identical - if you are taking steroids and not working your ass off to get the most out of the drugs you are wasting your time and taking a needless risk.
I train at a facility where I am outnumbered by several natural bodybuilders. They are f*cking haters...plain and simple. I catch them in the mirror counting my reps and "discreetly" keeping tabs on my workout. It is annoying, you wouldn't know these jokers were even "bodybuilders" unless they came out and told you so. Their sense of righteousness is sickening. I go out of my way to keep my distance - always wear headphones, minimal socializing and no tank tops or ridiculous Under Armour gear - and yet the gossip and disapproving looks are predictable and routine.
Major respect to Naturals who "Live and Let Live..." The righteous ones need to get honest about their envy and fascination pointing out everybody else whom they suspect is "on".
Spot on brother ...
the guys that scream nattie are the ones who couldn't cut it so they found a niche where they gear up and try to pass as natties so someone would fucking notice them hahaha
bitches
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Spot on brother ...
the guys that scream nattie are the ones who couldn't cut it so they found a niche where they gear up and try to pass as natties so someone would fucking notice them hahaha
bitches
Are you talking about the Ramanos and the Billy Gunz of the world?
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Are you talking about the Ramanos and the Billy Gunz of the world?
;D
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100% NATURAL FOR LIFE! (lol @ the slin/hgh injection spots)
Where are the injection spots?
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No I meant stare in disbelief and awe for hours.
You know, kind of like with a car wreck.
I should be taking my pants off too if I understand this correctly.
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Spot on brother ...
the guys that scream nattie are the ones who couldn't cut it so they found a niche where they gear up and try to pass as natties so someone would fucking notice them hahaha
bitches
What's even worse is a holier than thou natural who sucks and accuses better naturals of being on drugs. :)
Oh, and a natural who calls themselves a "nattie" ...that's just sounds like a pussy bodybuilder. :)
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I should be taking my pants off too if I understand this correctly.
That goes without saying. ;D
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That goes without saying. ;D
Its as if we are on the ...whats the word....wavelength.
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Where are the injection spots?
are u blind or retarded?
upper abs/stomach.
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Hey steroid users, instead of taking drugs why don't you just buy one of these suits? In both cases, it is not really your physique, but at least with the suit your test levels will remain and your nuts won't dry up.
Also, how do you know that you have maxed out your genetic potenetial? You simply gave up and took drugs at some point.
Wow, you guys are so tough. You took drugs and then trained REALLY hard! I don't need drugs to get it up, bitches.
Way to encourage a young guy to take drugs. You're a real group of winners now.
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i love these anti steroid guys on a pro bodybuilding forum ::)
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What's even worse is a holier than thou natural who sucks and accuses better naturals of being on drugs. :)
Oh, and a natural who calls themselves a "nattie" ...that's just sounds like a pussy bodybuilder. :)
I have used moderate amounts of juice years ago ( 83-86) and have been off ever since.
I could care less what some guy wants to use in his body to build muscle. It is their personal business.
A boatload of drugs won't make up for a crappy diet and genetics anyway.
Howard
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Hey steroid users, instead of taking drugs why don't you just buy one of these suits? In both cases, it is not really your physique, but at least with the suit your test levels will remain and your nuts won't dry up.
Also, how do you know that you have maxed out your genetic potenetial? You simply gave up and took drugs at some point.
Wow, you guys are so tough. You took drugs and then trained REALLY hard! I don't need drugs to get it up, bitches.
Way to encourage a young guy to take drugs. You're a real group of winners now.
You are an even bigger f*ckface than the first anti-drug loudmouth that started this shit.
Enjoy rocking your 170 lb physique knowing that you are going the "noble" drug free route.
Have fun having to tell everybody "Hey, I'm a bodybuilder!" rather than people knowing without you opening your piehole in the first place.
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Hey steroid users, instead of taking drugs why don't you just buy one of these suits? In both cases, it is not really your physique, but at least with the suit your test levels will remain and your nuts won't dry up.
Also, how do you know that you have maxed out your genetic potenetial? You simply gave up and took drugs at some point.
Wow, you guys are so tough. You took drugs and then trained REALLY hard! I don't need drugs to get it up, bitches.
Way to encourage a young guy to take drugs. You're a real group of winners now.
Translation: I'm small, jealous, and scared of needles. :-\
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You are an even bigger f*ckface than the first anti-drug loudmouth that started this shit.
Enjoy rocking your 170 lb physique knowing that you are going the "noble" drug free route.
Have fun having to tell everybody "Hey, I'm a bodybuilder!" rather than people knowing without you opening your piehole in the first place.
They already know.
Have fun telling everyone you have zero integrity and aren't willing to work to acheive.
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They already know.
Have fun telling everyone you have zero integrity and aren't willing to work to acheive.
Stop using 'I'm natural' as an excuse for being a shitty bodybuilder.
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Stop using 'I'm natural' as an excuse for being a shitty bodybuilder.
Stop using drugs.
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Stop Start using drugs.
fixed.
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Translation: I'm small, jealous, and scared of needles. :-\
Translation: I'm juiced, small and afraid of naturals that dwarf me. ;D
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They already know.
Have fun telling everyone you have zero integrity and aren't willing to work to acheive.
Hey "Garebear":
Read the title of the thread.....you are exactly the type of runt this discussion was started about.
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You are an ignorant d-bag.
I normally just lurk around this board for a few good laughs and to catch up on bodybuilding gossip but this topic has gotten me pissed off enough to post.
The worst breed of gym rat is the holier-than-thou naturals who seem to possess some sense of purity for having bypassed steroids. I have HUGE respect for dudes who stay natural and don't waste their time bad mouthing those of us who choose to use horomones. The naturals who I f*cking hate are the individuals that chalk everything up to drug use and discount any physique superior to their own as simply a result of steroid use and nothing else.
I trained natural for the better part of 15 years - worked my ass off to try and get every last bit I could out of my own genetic potential with dedicated training and nutrition. I made very good gains but got to a point where it seemed I had maxed out my natural potential. The only logical choice to continue making gains and take my physique to the next level was choosing to move to the dark side. Trust me when I say this - I worked even HARDER and took my commitment to food to the next level in order to get every last ounce of benefit out of the first cycle I did. There was no way I was going to accept the risk as well as spend the money on the drugs without doing everything possible to maximize the gains. My approach to every cycle since that time has been identical - if you are taking steroids and not working your ass off to get the most out of the drugs you are wasting your time and taking a needless risk.
I train at a facility where I am outnumbered by several natural bodybuilders. They are f*cking haters...plain and simple. I catch them in the mirror counting my reps and "discreetly" keeping tabs on my workout. It is annoying, you wouldn't know these jokers were even "bodybuilders" unless they came out and told you so. Their sense of righteousness is sickening. I go out of my way to keep my distance - always wear headphones, minimal socializing and no tank tops or ridiculous Under Armour gear - and yet the gossip and disapproving looks are predictable and routine.
Major respect to Naturals who "Live and Let Live..." The righteous ones need to get honest about their envy and fascination pointing out everybody else whom they suspect is "on".
Now that, I can understand. I'm natural but i don't necessarily hate juicers as there is all kind of juicers as there's all kinds of naturals. Your approach to training and nutrition isn't necessarily related to the use of drugs. I'be never seen the point myself as I feel I'm still making progress (albeit at a slow rate) and don't feel that good above a certain weight that I already achieved naturally at one point. But I've seen all knds of guys taking drugs, some were real dedicate trainers, some were wankers who couldn't achieve shit by their own means. But either way, it's not my body so it's not my problem. My own training is already enough for me to worry about.
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Stop using 'I'm natural' as an excuse for being a shitty bodybuilder.
thank you Mr Challupa !
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Hey steroid users, instead of taking drugs why don't you just buy one of these suits? In both cases, it is not really your physique, but at least with the suit your test levels will remain and your nuts won't dry up.
Also, how do you know that you have maxed out your genetic potenetial? You simply gave up and took drugs at some point.
Wow, you guys are so tough. You took drugs and then trained REALLY hard! I don't need drugs to get it up, bitches.
Way to encourage a young guy to take drugs. You're a real group of winners now.
its all good bro....you life in the status quo......ur too scared to be a GOD....walk around havin people fear you, look up to you, women wantin to deep throat ur cock all night...livin life in the fast lane.......
u live bored...brainwashing urself into bealiving that the status quo is how life is set.livin by other norms that were "set" for u....LET ME TELL U SOMETHING...that how far ur gonna get in life THE STATUS QUO...
a great movie quote that i live by
"law of evolution is the survival of the unfitess.....its either u do it right or wrong....or u get iliminated...greed is good..greed is right..greed works. greed clarifies and caprtures the essences of the evolutionary spirtit...greed in all of its form...life . money. body...has marked the upward surge of manking...and greed will save ur life"
one of da most intelligent post ever...4 real
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its all good bro....you life in the status quo......ur too scared to be a GOD....walk around havin people fear you, look up to you
Your whole quote was idiotic. No one looks at a steroid user and is afraid of them that I know of and most don't look up to them when they find out that you do take them. If anything they look down on you because if you use them correctly and actually make progress with them it will be quite obvious that you aren't natural and you will be discredited by the majority of the public. Ludicrous.
Disclaimer: Nothing against steroids as I may use them later on down the line, but that was such a stupid quote that was meant to be inspirational but failed miserably.
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its all good bro....you life in the status quo......ur too scared to be a GOD....walk around havin people fear you, look up to you, women wantin to deep throat ur cock all night...livin life in the fast lane.......
u live bored...brainwashing urself into bealiving that the status quo is how life is set.livin by other norms that were "set" for u....LET ME TELL U SOMETHING...that how far ur gonna get in life THE STATUS QUO...
a great movie quote that i live by
"law of evolution is the survival of the unfitess.....its either u do it right or wrong....or u get iliminated...greed is good..greed is right..greed works. greed clarifies and caprtures the essences of the evolutionary spirtit...greed in all of its form...life . money. body...has marked the upward surge of manking...and greed will save ur life"
one of da most intelligent post ever...4 real
That's one of the most ridiculous things i ever read in my life.
Get of the drugs, my friend. you strat to sound like gh15.
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That's one of the most ridiculous things i ever read in my life.
Get of the drugs, my friend. you strat to sound like gh15.
i agrre,unless you have pro or great amateur genes and have a freak look that people stare ok,but if your a internet pro wannabe,and have bloated and not an impressive shaped body on drugs no one is gonna look at u as a 'hero'.
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Your whole quote was idiotic. No one looks at a steroid user and is afraid of them that I know of and most don't look up to them when they find out that you do take them. If anything they look down on you because if you use them correctly and actually make progress with them it will be quite obvious that you aren't natural and you will be discredited by the majority of the public. Ludicrous.
Disclaimer: Nothing against steroids as I may use them later on down the line, but that was such a stupid quote that was meant to be inspirational but failed miserably.
lol tool
thats what youll always be....
in life, business, in the gym, in society.....
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That's one of the most ridiculous things i ever read in my life.
Get of the drugs, my friend. you strat to sound like gh15.
i dont even do drugs....im speaking in a methaporical way
assclown
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i agrre,unless you have pro or great amateur genes and have a freak look that people stare ok,but if your a internet pro wannabe,and have bloated and not an impressive shaped body on drugs no one is gonna look at u as a 'hero'.
ur right though...there are some queers out there damaging the name of good work ethic, intelligent supplementation
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its all good bro....you life in the status quo......ur too scared to be a GOD....walk around havin people fear you, look up to you, women wantin to deep throat ur cock all night...livin life in the fast lane.......
u live bored...brainwashing urself into bealiving that the status quo is how life is set.livin by other norms that were "set" for u....LET ME TELL U SOMETHING...that how far ur gonna get in life THE STATUS QUO...
a great movie quote that i live by
"law of evolution is the survival of the unfitess.....its either u do it right or wrong....or u get iliminated...greed is good..greed is right..greed works. greed clarifies and caprtures the essences of the evolutionary spirtit...greed in all of its form...life . money. body...has marked the upward surge of manking...and greed will save ur life"
one of da most intelligent post ever...4 real
Actually, it is YOU that lives life according to the status quo.
Like most Americans, you followed the path of least resistance, and went the drug route.
You are incapable of hard work and discipline.
"walk around havin people fear you,.."
This just screams insecurity. It's something I pointed out in the beginning of this thread:
Steroid users are insecure people.
Thank you for proving my point.
"...ur too scared to be a GOD..."
To ascertain who is most godlike, one would have to devise a system assigning values to all the various attributes of human beings.
Scarcely anyone(save possibly the dumbest meathead), would rate muscularity as having more value than intelligence.
Under such a scale, the scientist or intellectual would be more "godlike" than any bodybuilder.
Bertrand Russell is more godlike than Lee Priest.
The man that is gifted both mentally and physically, would be the most godlike of all.
So where does that leave you?
Well it means that, on the human ranking scale, you, would rate higher than the deaf, blind, and dumb invalids.
Of course, all we have to go by is your presentation here;
however, judging by your appalling orthography, I feel confident that you would be declared an "In-Valid" and banned from breeding.
And when the steroids that built your bloated physique are removed from the equation, you will deflate back to your natural size,
and be on even keel with the blind invalid in a race for last place.
I hope that gives you some perspective.
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Actually, it is YOU that lives life according to the status quo.
Like most Americans, you followed the path of least resistance, and went the drug route.
You are incapable of hard work and discipline.
"walk around havin people fear you,.."
This just screams insecurity. It's something I pointed out in the beginning of this thread:
Steroid users are insecure people.
Thank you for proving my point.
"...ur too scared to be a GOD..."
To ascertain who is most godlike, one would have to devise a system assigning values to all the various attributes of human beings.
Scarcely anyone(save possibly the dumbest meathead), would rate muscularity as having more value than intelligence.
Under such a scale, the scientist or intellectual would be more "godlike" than any bodybuilder.
Bertrand Russell is more godlike than Lee Priest.
The man that is gifted both mentally and physically, would be the most godlike of all.
So where does that leave you?
Well it means that, on the human ranking scale, you, would rate higher than the deaf, blind, and dumb invalids.
Of course, all we have to go by is your presentation here;
however, judging by your appalling orthography, I feel confident that you would be declared an "In-Valid" and banned from breeding.
And when the steroids that built your bloated physique are removed from the equation, you will deflate back to your natural size,
and be on even keel with the blind invalid in a race for last place.
I hope that gives you some perspective.
2 month old meltdown.
You're small, get over it.
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Ruhl is my favorite natty.big as a house and seems to have a cool attitude 8)
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They already know.
Have fun telling everyone you have zero integrity and aren't willing to work to acheive.
i had more muscle on me at 19 100% natty then you ever will even if you juice...stfu before i godzilla your domo
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There's always someone bigger and stronger....juiced or not. I've never used and I don't care if others choose to.
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Actually, it is YOU that lives life according to the status quo.
Like most Americans, you followed the path of least resistance, and went the drug route.
You are incapable of hard work and discipline.
"walk around havin people fear you,.."
This just screams insecurity. It's something I pointed out in the beginning of this thread:
Steroid users are insecure people.
Thank you for proving my point.
"...ur too scared to be a GOD..."
To ascertain who is most godlike, one would have to devise a system assigning values to all the various attributes of human beings.
Scarcely anyone(save possibly the dumbest meathead), would rate muscularity as having more value than intelligence.
Under such a scale, the scientist or intellectual would be more "godlike" than any bodybuilder.
Bertrand Russell is more godlike than Lee Priest.
The man that is gifted both mentally and physically, would be the most godlike of all.
So where does that leave you?
Well it means that, on the human ranking scale, you, would rate higher than the deaf, blind, and dumb invalids.
Of course, all we have to go by is your presentation here;
however, judging by your appalling orthography, I feel confident that you would be declared an "In-Valid" and banned from breeding.
And when the steroids that built your bloated physique are removed from the equation, you will deflate back to your natural size,
and be on even keel with the blind invalid in a race for last place.
I hope that gives you some perspective.
sorry kid,,, but you will acheive absolutly nothing in bodybuilding as a natural,,, you can stay nice and healthy with an ok build, if thats ok for you thats great,,, but most get into bodybuilding to actualy build there bodies and take it to the next level...
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sorry kid,,, but you will acheive absolutly nothing in bodybuilding as a natural,,, you can stay nice and healthy with an ok build, if thats ok for you thats great,,, but most get into bodybuilding to actualy build there bodies and take it to the next level...
Unfortunately this is true...wanna be a competitive bb you're gonna have to juice. You can build a fantastic natural physique, but to be competitive among the juiceboxes....well....wh en in Rome.
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Actually, it is YOU that lives life according to the status quo.
Like most Americans, you followed the path of least resistance, and went the drug route.
You are incapable of hard work and discipline.
"walk around havin people fear you,.."
This just screams insecurity. It's something I pointed out in the beginning of this thread:
Steroid users are insecure people.
Thank you for proving my point.
"...ur too scared to be a GOD..."
To ascertain who is most godlike, one would have to devise a system assigning values to all the various attributes of human beings.
Scarcely anyone(save possibly the dumbest meathead), would rate muscularity as having more value than intelligence.
Under such a scale, the scientist or intellectual would be more "godlike" than any bodybuilder.
Bertrand Russell is more godlike than Lee Priest.
The man that is gifted both mentally and physically, would be the most godlike of all.
So where does that leave you?
Well it means that, on the human ranking scale, you, would rate higher than the deaf, blind, and dumb invalids.
Of course, all we have to go by is your presentation here;
however, judging by your appalling orthography, I feel confident that you would be declared an "In-Valid" and banned from breeding.
And when the steroids that built your bloated physique are removed from the equation, you will deflate back to your natural size,
and be on even keel with the blind invalid in a race for last place.
I hope that gives you some perspective.
i will beat money right now that I am more developed, bigger, have better muscle bellies,better shape, better balance....currently i am 238, 15%bf ...zero juice, zeor vitamins, zero whey isolate after a work out....i havent used a supplenment in 3 years..why ..dont know. dont care....i plan is to maximaze my natural potential and then hope on the juice like no other and become a pro....so dont insult my success bitchccc
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i will beat money right now that I am more developed, bigger, have better muscle bellies,better shape, better balance....currently i am 238, 15%bf ...zero juice, zeor vitamins, zero whey isolate after a work out....i havent used a supplenment in 3 years..why ..dont know. dont care....i plan is to maximaze my natural potential and then hope on the juice like no other and become a pro....so dont insult my success bitchccc
You sound absolutely huge.....pics?
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Most in society have zero respect for drugged up juicers. Only on a bb forum is taking gear a "noble" thing to do.
Placing false reasoning behind it, is even worse....such as competing, passing your "natural" potential, etc.
If you juice great, you like to take drugs and lift weights, enjoy it. Never place a greater meaning though in what it is, drug use.
;)
Almost like a coke users saying he does blow to keep his bodyfat under 5% and it helps him work longer hours. ::)
Last, everything in life is a "personal" choice. I love when someone chimes in with that one....it's a "personal" choice...haha, no shit.
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Most in society have zero respect for drugged up juicers.
If the general public doesn't want to see juicers and have no respect for them how come the shit is so rife in the entertainment industry for example?
Steroids are what America is all about. America loves steroids. :D
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What bugs me as a natural is these juicers who act like they are the shit when they are little bigger than the natural guys (still unattainable for the naturals). If you want to impress as a juicer you better be huge. That is all.
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You sound absolutely huge.....pics?
i will have pics as soon as possible to....soon to be god...as gh says
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They are assholes , they have acess to all the human grade gear. >:(
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i hope none of you steroid users comes to regret it in your later years due to health issues
other than that..i could care less who uses or doesnt use steroids