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FAO: Coach - Some questions!!
« on: September 17, 2011, 02:38:49 PM »
Coach, tell us what you think of The Department For Homeland Security, and more specifically this:

http://www.fema.gov/government/grant/nsgp/

Good or bad?

Also, what do you think of - for example - H.R. 2786 (giving housing assistance to native americans)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2786

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Re: FAO: Coach - Some questions!!
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 02:53:52 PM »
Coach, tell us what you think of The Department For Homeland Security, and more specifically this:

http://www.fema.gov/government/grant/nsgp/

Good or bad?

Also, what do you think of - for example - H.R. 2786 (giving housing assistance to native americans)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-2786

As Div would say "bare your nuts, nugga!!"



I'm too lazy to click on the link but it is not the role of government to provide housing for anybody. Taking money from one group of people (who have to pay for their own housing) and giving it to another is stealing.

BTW, just a fine point that people forget and don't know: government really doesn't give anybody anything simply because they have nothing to give. What they give to one person they've taken away from another.

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Re: FAO: Coach - Some questions!!
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2011, 03:00:04 PM »
What they give to one person they've taken away from another.

how would you apply that to Native Americans who had their land taken away many moons ago my friend

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Re: FAO: Coach - Some questions!!
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2011, 03:15:39 PM »
how would you apply that to Native Americans who had their land taken away many moons ago my friend

There is not an square foot on this planet that hasn't been conquered and reconquered. What we did to the Indians, and I don't mean the white folks moving and setting up shop here like they did all over the world, is the worse thing that happened to them. They essentially became a ward of the State. Sure the government says, "Ok, we kicked your ass and planted our flag but now we will take care of you." LOL! Look what happened to those proud warriors? Over the generations they have had their wills broken and we created just another dependent class. Any incentive to do anything or accomplish anything has been weaned out of them. They just wait for their government checks. They live in poverty and drink themselves into a stupor. Fortunately, some still had some vestige of pride and spirit, entrepreneur spirit, started those casinos. Now they can make their own money -- and as much as they want. And not be dependent on some government entity.

It always starts out with good intentions. Taking from one group and giving it to another because you have unilaterally decided that they need it more and want to feel good about yourself. With welfare and government assuming the role as the provider, the father, it gave people the incentive to have babies without thinking how they are going to support them. Men no longer felt the responsibility to take care of a life that they brought into this world.

The more you subsidize something: single mothers, dependency, laziness..., the more you are going to get of it. 

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Re: FAO: Coach - Some questions!!
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 09:57:24 PM »
I'm too lazy to click on the link but it is not the role of government to provide housing for anybody. Taking money from one group of people (who have to pay for their own housing) and giving it to another is stealing.

BTW, just a fine point that people forget and don't know: government really doesn't give anybody anything simply because they have nothing to give. What they give to one person they've taken away from another.


You couldn't be arsed to open the link, I am not overly sure is this was sarcasm, or a display of most modern Westerners (generation X) apathy towards reading anything more than HEAD-LINES  ??? I honestly do not think the future is bright when people give up reading...........

FY 2011 Urban Areas Security Initiative (UASI) Nonprofit Security Grant Program (NSGP)

Total Funding Available in FY 2011: $18,962,000

Purpose:  NSGP provides funding support for target hardening activities to nonprofit organizations that are at high risk of a terrorist attack and located within one of the specific FY 2011 UASI-eligible urban areas.

Eligible Applicants:  The SAA was the only entity eligible to apply to FEMA for NSGP funds.  Eligible nonprofit organizations (as described under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and exempt from tax under section 501(a) of such Code) that are at high risk of a terrorist attack and are located within one of the specific FY 2011 UASI-eligible urban areas are eligible for funding through their SAA.  The SAA was the only entity eligible to apply to FEMA for NSGP funds.  Eligible nonprofit organizations (as described under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and exempt from tax under section 501(a) of such Code) that are at high risk of a terrorist attack and are located within one of the specific FY 2011 UASI-eligible urban areas are eligible for funding through their SAA.

Program Awards:  FY 2011 NSGP funds were allocated based on risk analysis, effectiveness, and integration with broader state and local preparedness efforts.  Each nonprofit organization was able to apply through their SAA for up to a $75,000 grant award.
http://www.fema.gov/government/grant/nsgp/

Here I opened it for you^^^^

Interestingly, I found this (& NO I didn't go looking).

How an Anti-Terror Program Became a Jewish Earmark by Nathan Guttman, Maia Efrem and Eileen Reynolds September 14, 2011
A Forward analysis of the 995 grants distributed through the national program from 2007 to 2010 found that 734, or 73.7%, went to Jewish organizations. DHS announced its grants for 2011 in late August, and here, too, Jewish groups were the big winners, with 81% of those awards.

Examining the grants program provides a window into Jewish organizational and political power. It is this power that allowed a small community to create and maintain a government program tailored specifically for its needs and catering almost exclusively to its members…

The legislation and the rules defining eligibility make no mention of preferring Jewish institutions, but in practice the program could easily be viewed as a Jewish earmark.

Since 2005, you taxpayers will be pleased to know, you have been paying for the Nonprofit Security Grant Program administered by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with results so blatantly ethnocentric that even The Jewish Daily Forward has flinched.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/09/plundering-the-u-s-taxpayer-again/

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Re: FAO: Coach - Some questions!!
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 10:54:28 PM »
You couldn't be arsed to open the link, I am not overly sure is this was sarcasm, or a display of most modern Westerners (generation X) apathy towards reading anything more than HEAD-LINES  ??? I honestly do not think the future is bright when people give up reading...........

FY 2011 Urban Areas Security Initiative (UASI) Nonprofit Security Grant Program (NSGP)

Total Funding Available in FY 2011: $18,962,000

Purpose:  NSGP provides funding support for target hardening activities to nonprofit organizations that are at high risk of a terrorist attack and located within one of the specific FY 2011 UASI-eligible urban areas.

Eligible Applicants:  The SAA was the only entity eligible to apply to FEMA for NSGP funds.  Eligible nonprofit organizations (as described under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and exempt from tax under section 501(a) of such Code) that are at high risk of a terrorist attack and are located within one of the specific FY 2011 UASI-eligible urban areas are eligible for funding through their SAA.  The SAA was the only entity eligible to apply to FEMA for NSGP funds.  Eligible nonprofit organizations (as described under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 and exempt from tax under section 501(a) of such Code) that are at high risk of a terrorist attack and are located within one of the specific FY 2011 UASI-eligible urban areas are eligible for funding through their SAA.

Program Awards:  FY 2011 NSGP funds were allocated based on risk analysis, effectiveness, and integration with broader state and local preparedness efforts.  Each nonprofit organization was able to apply through their SAA for up to a $75,000 grant award.
http://www.fema.gov/government/grant/nsgp/

Here I opened it for you^^^^

Interestingly, I found this (& NO I didn't go looking).

How an Anti-Terror Program Became a Jewish Earmark by Nathan Guttman, Maia Efrem and Eileen Reynolds September 14, 2011
A Forward analysis of the 995 grants distributed through the national program from 2007 to 2010 found that 734, or 73.7%, went to Jewish organizations. DHS announced its grants for 2011 in late August, and here, too, Jewish groups were the big winners, with 81% of those awards.

Examining the grants program provides a window into Jewish organizational and political power. It is this power that allowed a small community to create and maintain a government program tailored specifically for its needs and catering almost exclusively to its members…

The legislation and the rules defining eligibility make no mention of preferring Jewish institutions, but in practice the program could easily be viewed as a Jewish earmark.

Since 2005, you taxpayers will be pleased to know, you have been paying for the Nonprofit Security Grant Program administered by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with results so blatantly ethnocentric that even The Jewish Daily Forward has flinched.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/09/plundering-the-u-s-taxpayer-again/

PT

Calm down, my friend. I can assure I've done a bit of reading in my 51 years. In fact, since I am always reading a book of some sort, I imagine I've gone through a lot. Just last month I donated a bunch of books that I've read but have been sitting for years taking up space. I figure I'd give them to the local library. They numbered 477 books.

Judging by my first reply on a less substantial issue I'll let extrapolate what my feelings would be on the first.