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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2925 on: October 29, 2015, 04:37:47 AM »
Anyone see lebron last night? looked very thin. NBA is not testing for HGH.

he just took his first shot last week.  It'll be another 10 days until he's beasting people.  And it may be like last year, where he stays skinny til Dec, ups the dose then... and then proceeds to just crush people.  By late jan last year, he was going AT PEOPLE, not at the basket.  It'll be obvious when he ups the dose.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2926 on: October 29, 2015, 06:49:21 AM »
Lakers ran out of gas last night.  I do respect them for wearing the FLIP shirts.

As for Lebron being a defender.  He's a great defender but that is part of his 4th quarter failures. He is just gassed near the end of a game.  A guy his size shouldn't be chasing down a PG half his size all game.  It will just wear him out.  If James wants to be a top scorer over the next 5 years he needs to stick to guarding forwards and keep his endurance up near the end of games when he's needed the most.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2927 on: October 29, 2015, 08:03:40 AM »
is kobe hurt already and missing the entire year  ???

this will be a great time for the Buss Brother and Sister duo to resign kobe again as the highest paid player in the league

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2928 on: October 29, 2015, 08:10:54 AM »
is kobe hurt already and missing the entire year  ???

this will be a great time for the Buss Brother and Sister duo to resign kobe again as the highest paid player in the league
Kobe knows this team isn't designed to win it all.  At his age why bother killing himself.  He's getting close to $30 million to do fuck all.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2929 on: October 29, 2015, 01:17:55 PM »
Kobe knows this team isn't designed to win it all.  At his age why bother killing himself.  He's getting close to $30 million to do fuck all.

that is why he jacked up 13 3 pointers.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2930 on: October 29, 2015, 02:36:20 PM »
he just took his first shot last week.  It'll be another 10 days until he's beasting people.  And it may be like last year, where he stays skinny til Dec, ups the dose then... and then proceeds to just crush people.  By late jan last year, he was going AT PEOPLE, not at the basket.  It'll be obvious when he ups the dose.

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MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- LeBron James has a bad back.

That has become clear at this point, and there are signs the issue could be worsening. But it is also important to understand James has been dealing with back issues of varying degrees for nearly a decade, and he's always managed it and continued to thrive.

There was a time when James worried his knees would someday betray him as they do so many athletes. That was long ago replaced by attention to the lumbar region of his spine, his lower back. He probably is going to have to fight it in some way or another for the rest of his career.


    To get where he and the Cavaliers want to go, LeBron James will have to undergo another transformation and start trusting his teammates and his coach.

Naturally, the Cleveland Cavaliers are concerned about the situation. But they are not panicked. Neither is James. He has a plan in place to deal with it, and he believes it will not derail the Cavs' title hopes this season or into the foreseeable future.

At the moment, he is in the midst of a program to recover from an anti-inflammatory injection he received a few weeks ago. Wednesday night, a Cavaliers staffer bounced a large red exercise ball down the hall at FedExForum, a loaner from the Grizzlies. James has begun using a ball for pregame exercises to loosen his back. The night before, it was a blue exercise ball borrowed at the United Center in Chicago. This is a new addition to the routine, but just one of the techniques he has been using for some time; heating pads on his back while he's out of the game, during halftime and even in the layup lines have become a norm for James as he attempts to keep it loose.

Also when resting during games, he lays on the baseline using a towel for a pillow and watches the game on the scoreboard, calling to mind the habits of Larry Bird and Steve Nash and their in-game methods for handling back issues.

James said this week he is attempting to make adjustments to his posture to ease strain. A voracious reader and the franchise's most prized asset, James also has consulted top specialists.

That said, James believes he is making progress and getting better in recent days. He's in the midst of a cycle of recovery from the shot that he has not fully completed.

In the season opener, he had a double-double with 25 points and 10 rebounds and moved reasonably well. He also had a few moments when he appeared to lack explosion. He was on a breakaway when he was caught and stuffed by Tony Snell. Then in the final seconds he was blocked by Pau Gasol when he didn't seem to get good lift.

It was reminiscent of the first months of last season, when James played well but didn't have his typical bounce, the issues that caused him to address the back at that time.
When LeBron James is out of games, he tries to stay loose, as Larry Bird and Steve Nash once did on the sidelines. Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images

But Wednesday he felt good enough to play in the second game of a back-to-back where he also seemed to have good energy and flexibility, as the Cavs blew out the Grizzlies. It was not a dominant performance, as he scored just 12 points, but not much more was needed on this night, as the Cavs won by 30 points.

"Listen, I don't know many people that can sit down for 10 days, practice for a day and a half and then come out and perform the way that he's performed his last two games," Cavs coach David Blatt said. "It's just another example of his uniqueness."

James has kept the details of what might be wrong with his back quiet, just as he kept it quiet that he needed an injection in his back last December. It was revealed that he got that shot only because the Cavs wanted to calm fears when it was revealed they gave him another one earlier this month. If he has ever needed this level of treatment in the past, it was never made public.

When James' regular back maintenance wasn't working as well as he wanted last season, the Cavs sent him for an MRI on New Year's Eve and saw some inflammation they didn't like. Though there has been some confusion as to how James' midseason break came about at the time, it has now become clear it was at the insistence of team doctors because he needed to recover from the injection. When he did, he played tremendously for the following six months.

Recovering from this round could end up having the same result, and that is what James is expecting. He has gotten good response to treatments in the past. He and the Cavs have attempted to make it clear this injection was planned, although its timing so close to the start of the season draws that into question.

But there's no doubting James' experience with treatment and plenty of evidence of positive results. In the first playoff series of his career, in 2006, James had a bout of spasms in his lower back. He also had a triple-double in his first playoff game and hit two game-winning baskets in that series.

In 2007, he began doing extensive stretching routines to try to strengthen and loosen his back muscles.

By 2009, he began to experiment with yoga, primarily to alleviate lower-back soreness that was bothering him. He has been a devotee to the techniques ever since, and he has won four MVP awards and been to five consecutive NBA Finals.

There is no question this is something that bears watching even if the reality is it's hardly a new issue. For a player like James who has logged more than 40,000 career minutes and avoided major injury along the way, it was inevitable that wear and tear was going to show up in an appreciable form at some point.

So here it is. And here is James, whose experience with this has him continuing to project optimism.

"I feel pretty good," James said. "It helps when we come out and play well as a team and I don't have to exert a lot of energy."

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2931 on: October 31, 2015, 01:12:21 AM »




Kobe is completely shot, he cannot drive into the lane anymore, does not even try.

He just settles for 3's now. he has launched 22 3's in 2 games. He is useless at defense.


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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2932 on: October 31, 2015, 08:18:36 PM »
Steph Curry with 28 points in the third quarter alone tonight :o

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2933 on: November 01, 2015, 01:40:34 AM »
Steph Curry with 28 points in the third quarter alone tonight :o

53 points.

Awesome shooter. Anthony Davis is winless.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2934 on: November 01, 2015, 06:28:22 PM »
53 points.

Awesome shooter. Anthony Davis is winless.
Thats what happens when you play Cury twice and he is on.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2935 on: November 03, 2015, 06:48:38 AM »
Jordan's greatness on display last night.  Lebron James hit 25000 points yet is still behind Jordan who did it in fewer games.  Curry is off to a smoking start scoring the second most points to start a season and behind MJ who had more.  With the soft league today and ease of scoring with no defense it shows how great Jordan was in an era when you got the shit kicked out of your before a ref would call a foul.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2936 on: November 03, 2015, 09:00:09 AM »
Jordan's greatness on display last night.  Lebron James hit 25000 points yet is still behind Jordan who did it in fewer games.  Curry is off to a smoking start scoring the second most points to start a season and behind MJ who had more.  With the soft league today and ease of scoring with no defense it shows how great Jordan was in an era when you got the shit kicked out of your before a ref would call a foul.

Your last sentence didn't apply to Jordan. He would go to the line if someone looked at him wrong.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2937 on: November 03, 2015, 09:22:08 AM »
Your last sentence didn't apply to Jordan. He would go to the line if someone looked at him wrong.


Not always true. the Pistons and then later the Knicks would always get there shots at him.

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« Reply #2938 on: November 03, 2015, 09:30:51 AM »

Not always true. the Pistons and then later the Knicks would always get there shots at him.

That was part of the Pistons game plan to rough him up with a lot of contact. But this was also early 90s. Mid-late 90s things changed.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2939 on: November 03, 2015, 10:10:36 AM »
That was part of the Pistons game plan to rough him up with a lot of contact. But this was also early 90s. Mid-late 90s things changed.

True, later in Jordan's career the rules were specifically changed to protect him.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2940 on: November 03, 2015, 12:38:26 PM »

Kobe playing like he belongs in the D league

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2941 on: November 03, 2015, 06:00:03 PM »
didnt kobe go 3-22 a few days ago and scored 15 points

lol 15 points and only made 3 baskets , fucking NBA numbers  ::)

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2942 on: November 04, 2015, 12:12:54 AM »



Kobe is completely shot, he cannot drive into the lane anymore, does not even try.

He just settles for 3's now. he has launched 22 3's in 2 games. He is useless at defense.


It's still really early in the season so there is time for him to get into form.  He's been sick and has missed some practices and such.

It doesn't look good for him though.  He can't react quick enough on defense and he can't get separation on offense.  He looks kinda lost out there right now like he can't figure out how he wants to play.  He's used to being able to do whatever he wants on the court and his body just wont let him anymore.  I really thought he was going to go into facilitator mode this year but it's quite the opposite.  They are putting the ball in D'Angelo Russell's hands and Kobe is pretty much just shooting threes.  I'm going to a game later this month to see for myself.

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Re: LA Lakers -Kobe Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2943 on: November 04, 2015, 01:54:44 AM »
It's still really early in the season so there is time for him to get into form.  He's been sick and has missed some practices and such.

It doesn't look good for him though.  He can't react quick enough on defense and he can't get separation on offense.  He looks kinda lost out there right now like he can't figure out how he wants to play.  He's used to being able to do whatever he wants on the court and his body just wont let him anymore.  I really thought he was going to go into facilitator mode this year but it's quite the opposite.  They are putting the ball in D'Angelo Russell's hands and Kobe is pretty much just shooting threes.  I'm going to a game later this month to see for myself.

Kobe reminds me of that lazy kid that just jacks up 3's everytime he touches it.

He has no lateral speed, all players are blowing by him...easily

He can get his shot off but they are not going in. What concerns me is he is launching about 10 3's a game...why??

You are right, it is very early but it is natural to judge. Him and D'angelo Russell play zero defense. Fans are already booing them.

Kobe should know he isn't the same dude from 2005/06 when he averaged 35 ppg.

Byron scott is a terrible coach, Jason kidd made him look good years ago.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2944 on: November 05, 2015, 01:22:01 PM »
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/track/4247832-kobes-terrible-shooting-gets-mocked-with-nba-jam-treatment


Was watching ESPN they think chicago is looking to move D.Rose. Not sure who will take him cause he is damaged goods and has a mega contract..and a bird brain.

Pray4War, do you think Byron scott keeps his job this season? I feel they will win 23 games only. They have lost to very bad teams so far

the next 16 of 20 games are on the road.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2945 on: November 05, 2015, 01:32:06 PM »
Curry last night sat out the first quarter and still got 31.  made the Clippers defense look stupid.  He is hitting shots like I've never seen before.  I hope some lame ass team does try to injure him on purpose. 

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2946 on: November 05, 2015, 01:33:43 PM »
Curry last night sat out the first quarter and still got 31.  made the Clippers defense look stupid.  He is hitting shots like I've never seen before.  I hope some lame ass team does try to injure him on purpose. 

Glad he is doing well, likable guy.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2947 on: November 05, 2015, 04:15:50 PM »
Glad he is doing well, likable guy.

I like that he does his thing without over relying on the refs whistle. (Cough, James Harden)

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2948 on: November 05, 2015, 08:53:01 PM »
Glad he is doing well, likable guy.
Agreed.

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Re: LA Lakers - Steve Nash Will Save The LA Lakers
« Reply #2949 on: November 05, 2015, 10:50:08 PM »
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/track/4247832-kobes-terrible-shooting-gets-mocked-with-nba-jam-treatment


Was watching ESPN they think chicago is looking to move D.Rose. Not sure who will take him cause he is damaged goods and has a mega contract..and a bird brain.

Pray4War, do you think Byron scott keeps his job this season? I feel they will win 23 games only. They have lost to very bad teams so far

the next 16 of 20 games are on the road.

I think Byron finishes the year.  Makes no sense to can him with this roster.  Best to ride it out and see if our young players turn into something.  Probably gone next season.  Jordan Clarkson and Julius Randle look really solid.  D'Angelo Russell not so much.  Kobe looks like he has one foot in the grave but I'm not giving up on him.  This will be his last year, no doubt in my mind.

In all the fun people have been having mocking Kobe's shooting Lebron is shooting .111% from three point range on the year and nobody saying shit about it.  Big Homie is 2 for 18 and blaming his sleeves for it.  lol.