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Found this , what say you? I think Kai is holding his own
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not scaled properly, and not using a fully flexed ronnie... probably better than dorian though 8) kidding
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damn, kai has some low lats! they practically start at his waist!
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Holy shit.
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I wonder what Ronnie thinks of Kai?
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Found this , what say you? I think Kai is holding his own
Kai looks as thick just because his torso is so much shorter and his lats are lower so he appears massive. Ronnie has much greater real thickness. But then, this is bodybuilding where it is about illusion(visuals) and not how big the muscles actually are. Greg Kovacs had much bigger muscles than Flex Wheeler, and yet Wheeler looked as big or bigger because his joints are very small and his muscles very round, which make them look huge. All illusion.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I wonder what Ronnie thinks of Kai?
As I believe Dorian would deem Ronnie worthy of passing the Torch, I think Ronnie would deem Kai worthy as well. Phil serves as the "nemesis", the Flex Wheeler...
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I wonder what Ronnie thinks of Kai?
I'm curious too , he probably thinks highly of him
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Kai is now on another level. He is better than Jay. But he must be at his best.
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Kai is now on another level. He is better than Jay. But he must be at his best.
I think if Kai's conditioning is spot-on he can beat Jay or should beat Jay
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Notice how all Multiple Mr. o winners had a nemesis...for Haney it was Gaspari, and Labrada.
For Dorian, it was Flex, Kevin, Shawn, Nasser. For Ronnie it was Flex, and Jay. For Jay it was Dex and Vic.
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There is ni illusion suckmuscle. Ronnie at his best was 248 - 252. That picture looks to be from 1999 Mr. O where he was 260. Kai at his best is 245 - 255. Obviously 03 Ronnie rapes him in size at 287 but were are talking about best look. Ronnie in 98 Mr. O will never be match perfect except gyno. We havent seen the best of Kai but from what weve seen NY pro this year and 09 Arnold are his best so far. Coleman has better structure but weak calves weird abs. Kai has a weird structure but great calves and good abs. But nothing beats Ronnie....
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Found this , what say you? I think Kai is holding his own
Ronnie is not hitting the pose the way "he" wants to. That pic looks like Ronnie from the 2000 Mr. Olympia photo shoot and Ronnie was hitting the pose the way "Joe" wanted him to do it. Kai still has a great back double bi though.
Go to :40 and listen to Joe.
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Very, very good comparision but the story changes as Ronnie rapes him him in fbd.
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kai is redicusouly huge, I wouldnt be suprised if he is bigger than jay this year at the O.
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Found this , what say you? I think Kai is holding his own
Holding his own what? Grapefruit? Since both his hands are in the air where do you think he' "holding" it?
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Kai=tiny traps
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I've always said that Ronnie is humble and knows his place. A good role model to his own kind. Now you know as well as me the cop in Ronnie doesn't approve of a gay male prostitute like Kai.
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I've always said that Ronnie is humble and knows his place. A good role model to his own kind. Now you know as well as me the cop in Ronnie doesn't approve of a gay male prostitute like Kai.
Poor choice of words, fellow Reeves. No law abiding LEO would take illegal drugs. Fuck the noise that is Coleslaw.
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Poor choice of words, fellow Reeves. No law abiding LEO would take illegal drugs. Fuck the noise that is Coleslaw.
no law abiding person would do an illegal act?
genius! ::)
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no law abiding person would do an illegal act?
genius! ::)
Are you really this sophomoric, Magoo? Here, does the use of this "smiley" make it all better? ::)
Later, kiddo.
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not quite to scale. ronnie is 5'11 isn't he? i know kai is 5'8. both are fucking freaks though
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Are you really this sophomoric, Magoo? Here, does the use of this "smiley" make it all better? ::)
Later, kiddo.
I think you're the worst troll on here. Most of the time the stuff you say isn't even worth acknowledging because it's so amateur.
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There is ni illusion suckmuscle. Ronnie at his best was 248 - 252. That picture looks to be from 1999 Mr. O where he was 260. Kai at his best is 245 - 255. Obviously 03 Ronnie rapes him in size at 287 but were are talking about best look. Ronnie in 98 Mr. O will never be match perfect except gyno. We havent seen the best of Kai but from what weve seen NY pro this year and 09 Arnold are his best so far. Coleman has better structure but weak calves weird abs. Kai has a weird structure but great calves and good abs. But nothing beats Ronnie....
I am talking only about back and not total body mass. Kai's torso is shorter and his lats lower than Ronnie's, which makes his back look as massive as Ronnie's even though his back mass is much smaller. In terms of total body mass, they are about the same - except for Ronnie's 2003 and 2004 Olympia versions which were bigger - and proportionally Kai is bigger than Ronnie since he is ripped at 270 lbs at a height of only 5'8.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Very, very good comparision but the story changes as Ronnie rapes him him in fbd.
pics or the rape didn't happen.
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:D
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That is very good. Coleman is barely 5 10 and is 5'8 thats great work.
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That is very good. Coleman is barely 5 10 and is 5'8
sure this is not a fair comparison as they are not scaled right.. i dont see ronnie's back the best in history as many consider it but still overall better than kai's back which is great too.. but shape wise and size wise ronnie's is better.. both are not dry enough!!.. lee haney's great back too was never dry enough,.. may be a black genetic problem!..
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Kai's rdb is one of the sickest in the game ever, really is awe-inspiring.
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1/2 a grapefruit + 1/2 a peanut.
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That is very good. Coleman is barely 5 10 and is 5'8 thats great work.
I've met Ronnie in 09' and he is definitely over 5'10. My dad is 5'10 and Ronnie was a little taller than my dad when they were talking. I'd say he is a little below 5'11. Both of them were wearing sneakers.
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Kai=tiny traps
Very much so compared to his huge lats, his arms don't look as complete as Rons either like his brachialis is not quite thick enough.
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All Kai needs are some freaky traps to complete the package and yes, he can stand amongst the greatest of all time. Not sure why, after all this time, he still hasn't really developed mind blowing traps so who knows if he ever will...Right now, Phil will still take him.
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look at the difference in size of the upper/outer glutes ... kai does tons of different glute specific exercises and all ronnie did was squat lol
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Found this , what say you? I think Kai is holding his own
ron and by alot!,, ron muscle is with much less insulina in it more of gh and aas,, the other fella kai has lots of insulina in the muscle ,,the over all size on ron is much more impressive ,,, back size,, his built is much better,, it look like muscle on bone and that is it!,, it look like a lean peeled cheeta and chimp mutation...while the other fella kai look like a lean peeled baboon
you cant compare any one to ron back esepcialy not at his best,, he was something you coudnt put anyone next to ,, including dorian ,, the sheer muscle and conditioned muscle on ron was just 1 in a million ,, im sure there are more like him in society but they didnt chose bodybuilding
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pics or the rape didn't happen.
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Nothing gay about this. Just two young men sharing a powerful moment.
::)
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ron and by alot!,, ron muscle is with much less insulina in it more of gh and aas,, the other fella kai has lots of insulina in the muscle ,,the over all size on ron is much more impressive ,,, back size,, his built is much better,, it look like muscle on bone and that is it!,, it look like a lean peeled cheeta and chimp mutation...while the other fella kai look like a lean peeled baboon
you cant compare any one to ron back esepcialy not at his best,, he was something you coudnt put anyone next to ,, including dorian ,, the sheer muscle and conditioned muscle on ron was just 1 in a million ,, im sure there are more like him in society but they didnt chose bodybuilding
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GH15, a good friend of mine who used to work for BSN and traveled with Ron Coleman all the time (even went to pharmacies for him in some cities), told me Ronnie once said to him "It's all about GH and Insulin." He never specifically talked doses or anything like that openly with him, but looking at Ronnie, I would have to think a LOT of insulin is there along with boat loads of ASS and GH. Ron does have a much better foundation built on AAS and GH so maybe the loads of insulin just came after foundation was there? What do you think? I only ask because Kai has more real muscle than any other pro around right now (I know, that isn't saying much), and to say he is ALL insulina I think is a little misleading.
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;D
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Kai is all oil ...
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kaj is ronnies bitch
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I wish someone would cut that fuckin homos hair ...He is like the black gay guy version of Medusa..
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Kai is nowhere near ronnies leave ... This thread is a shrouded way for ND to diss ronnie...
In ronnies prime Kai wouldn't even place top 6 at the o
Ronnie is miles bigger harder better muscle shape
Owns Kai on symetry balance mass... Condition ... Rounder muscles....
No contest....
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But kajs posing is disgustingly gay and he done despickable things to get money. i cant understand why "straight" men can seriously look at his posing and not feel embarrassed for doing it.
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Really getting out classed here, lack of traps is so apparent in this shot.. Dare I say Jay looks better by better upper back, Kais super low lats only highlight his flaws (wierd super short torso, weak traps).
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???
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But kajs posing is disgustingly gay and he done despickable things to get money. i cant understand why "straight" men can seriously look at his posing and not feel embarrassed for doing it.
I can never look at a person the same way knowing the things they have done.... Its like.. Kai is obviously a better BB than Arnold by today's standard, but knowing how cool Arnie is I could see myself watching the guy pose (no homo) and feel quite Hetero still...meanwhile going to see Kai is gayer than waving keys under the bathroom stall in a gay club.
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true, but arnold in his prime still have the illusion of looking bigger and stronger than a big blob of midget that kaj is to me.
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??? ??? ???
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Arnold "paid his dues" . . .
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Kai is a manwhore. I wouldn't be surprised if all the homos at the Olympia....errrrrrr... I mean Joe Weider's Olympia ©™scream for him to throw out a rug to "pose" on.
No real man finds his display of faggotry to be pleasing to the eye. Fuck that noise.
And Kai could never hold a candle to the class of the Oak. For one, Kai's a perverse midget bloated with dope with a gut reminiscent of a pregnant armadillo. And the second reason? He would have shoved the candle up his ass, lit it and then stood on his head waiting for some schmoe to blow it out.
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Kai is nowhere near ronnies leave ... This thread is a shrouded way for ND to diss ronnie...
In ronnies prime Kai wouldn't even place top 6 at the o
Ronnie is miles bigger harder better muscle shape
Owns Kai on symetry balance mass... Condition ... Rounder muscles....
No contest....
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this was Ronnie 10years ago, relaxed
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Kai is nowhere near ronnies leave ... This thread is a shrouded way for ND to diss ronnie...
In ronnies prime Kai wouldn't even place top 6 at the o
Ronnie is miles bigger harder better muscle shape
Owns Kai on symetry balance mass... Condition ... Rounder muscles....
No contest....
why are you so angry they are both black??!! :-X
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this was Ronnie 10years ago, relaxed
Untouchable
I don't think we will ever see another Coleman
In a league of his own
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How could anyone compare that to Coleman
Arms small for torso huge waist short torso....
Etc... Good in this field but not on ronnies level
Not even close
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agree, this thread is ronnie blasphemy, kaj is a little black gay troll.
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Kai is nowhere near ronnies leave ... This thread is a shrouded way for ND to diss ronnie...
In ronnies prime Kai wouldn't even place top 6 at the o
Ronnie is miles bigger harder better muscle shape
Owns Kai on symetry balance mass... Condition ... Rounder muscles....
No contest....
Kai is no where near ronnies leave? his leave? ???
and if I wanted to ' diss ' Ronnie I would have said " look Kai is blowing Ronnie out of the water ' I don't and never have shrouded any criticisms when to comes to Coleman so please spare us I'm doing this as a down low slight to Ronnie ::) if I have something to say I'll say it
Your delusion runs insanely deep , people think Hulkster is the biggest Ronnie guy it's YOU by far your delusion knows no bounds , please stop mistaken that Ronnie is some magical untouchable God that no one could ever hope to come close to because he's not , in his reign he was almost beaten by Flex , Kevin and Jay , he was eventually beaten by Gunther and Jay among others including Dexter , and Victor ! stop trying to rewrite history
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Untouchable
I don't think we will ever see another Coleman
In a league of his own
lmao ' untouchable '
1998 Mr Olympia at his best he just barely beat Flex in one of the closest Mr Olympias to date by just 3 points , Ronnie at his best = very touchable
2001 Mr Olympia Jay actually beat him in the entire prejudging and only lost because of the ' night show ' by 4 points , Ronnie was very touchable
2002 Mr Olympia Kevin beat him in the posing rounds and lost by just 9 points , Ronnie was very touchable
2002 Show of Strength , Ronnie was beaten with almost a perfect score , Ronnie was beaten soundly
2004 Mr Olympia , Ronnie won by only 3 points again , Ronnie is very touchable
2006 Mr Olympia Jay beat him easily and by a wide margin 16 points , Ronnie was beaten soundly
2007 Mr Olympia Jay , Vic and Dexter all beat him , and so should have Wolf too
please stop with this heroic fan-boy bullshit that Ronnie was unbeatable , untouchable or invincible because reality dictates otherwise , Ronnie was very beatable and couldn't replicate the sheer dominance that Lee Haney or Dorian Yates could , this are facts I know they are tough for you to swallow but they are what they are.
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why are you so angry they are both black??!! :-X
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Because Ronnie is the most bestest , fantastical , whimsical , magical , super-duper special bodybuilder who ever lived and it's heresy for anyone to ever be mentioned in the same sentence with the man known as " Ronald Dean Coleman " he's the strongest , widest , most symmetrical , biggest hardest , driest and most complete bodybuilder who was ever born in this Universe in the 13.7 Billions years since the inflation of the Big Bang
And it's senseless , hopeless and impossible for anyone to ever compared to Ronnie , so everyone should stop lifting weights right now because it's not gonna happen EVER and to even formulate an idea that it might in some odd Nazi-Eugenics , Captain America , genetic-engineering super-master-piece is wrong and shouldn't even be thought ::)
He is BY FAR the most delusional fan-boy I ever seen anywhere on the internet since I've been on in 1997 , Me , you , Sharma , BigBobs , Team-Nasser and Hulkster , Neo and company combined can't come close , he's like his own idea of Ronnie in terms of fan-boys in a ' leave of his own '
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GH15, a good friend of mine who used to work for BSN and traveled with Ron Coleman all the time (even went to pharmacies for him in some cities), told me Ronnie once said to him "It's all about GH and Insulin." He never specifically talked doses or anything like that openly with him, but looking at Ronnie, I would have to think a LOT of insulin is there along with boat loads of ASS and GH. Ron does have a much better foundation built on AAS and GH so maybe the loads of insulin just came after foundation was there? What do you think? I only ask because Kai has more real muscle than any other pro around right now (I know, that isn't saying much), and to say he is ALL insulina I think is a little misleading.
ron did exactly what others did in this time and age,, the diff is HE HAD FOUNDATION ,, the diff is he kept his mouth shut and didnt lie...the diff is he actualy look better than them even before he did insulina,, the diff is his build only on steroids was crazy crazy good,, good is nto a good word for this,, the diff is when he added insulina in high doses you saw what happened ...
bring the picture from 2003....this is when ron colman is on major insulina usage....when ron colman used mega dosing of insulina to the 10th degree he went on stage 290lb! and he looked much better than jason look at 255-260! and ron is taller! so ron colman looked much better than jason on the same doses insulina when ron was 290 and jason height taken in consideration 7lb per inch ...was 250..
this is 40lb of muscle! lean tissue,, you fellas just dotn understand HOW HUGE RON COLMAN IS,,conditioned size huge,, he is truly conditioned size
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Great point and makes sense... when you think about it that way, kind of makes you envy Ron a bit more and realize how unreal he actually was.
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lmao ' untouchable '
1998 Mr Olympia at his best he just barely beat Flex in one of the closest Mr Olympias to date by just 3 points , Ronnie at his best = very touchable
2001 Mr Olympia Jay actually beat him in the entire prejudging and only lost because of the ' night show ' by 4 points , Ronnie was very touchable
2002 Mr Olympia Kevin beat him in the posing rounds and lost by just 9 points , Ronnie was very touchable
2002 Show of Strength , Ronnie was beaten with almost a perfect score , Ronnie was beaten soundly
2004 Mr Olympia , Ronnie won by only 3 points again , Ronnie is very touchable
2006 Mr Olympia Jay beat him easily and by a wide margin 16 points , Ronnie was beaten soundly
2007 Mr Olympia Jay , Vic and Dexter all beat him , and so should have Wolf too
please stop with this heroic fan-boy bullshit that Ronnie was unbeatable , untouchable or invincible because reality dictates otherwise , Ronnie was very beatable and couldn't replicate the sheer dominance that Lee Haney or Dorian Yates could , this are facts I know they are tough for you to swallow but they are what they are.
I think visual evidence is more powerful than flaky subjective judges scores that are based on paying dues and probrably other behind the scenes activity. Let's not act like points in bb matter for shit like in other "sports".
Ronnie to bb fans and physique enthusiasts was largely considered untouchable, inlcuding fellow pros. Just look at 97 Yates to see how unreliable and worthless bb judging is ;)
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I think visual evidence is more powerful than flaky subjective judges scores that are based on paying dues and probrably other behind the scenes activity. Let's not act like points in bb matter for shit like in other "sports".
Ronnie to bb fans and physique enthusiasts was largely considered untouchable, inlcuding fellow pros. Just look at 97 Yates to see how unreliable and worthless bb judging is ;)
yes the pregnant one arm man won with perfect scores that day!!.. :-\
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yes the pregnant one arm man won with perfect scores that day!!.. :-\
Exactly, one could argue all day whether he deserved to win or not, but if he did get perfect scores.. that's just beyond rediculous smmfh ???
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not scaled properly, and not using a fully flexed ronnie... probably better than dorian though 8) kidding
wrong, he have a high ass
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Kai is no where near ronnies leave? his leave? ???
and if I wanted to ' diss ' Ronnie I would have said " look Kai is blowing Ronnie out of the water ' I don't and never have shrouded any criticisms when to comes to Coleman so please spare us I'm doing this as a down low slight to Ronnie ::) if I have something to say I'll say it
Your delusion runs insanely deep , people think Hulkster is the biggest Ronnie guy it's YOU by far your delusion knows no bounds , please stop mistaken that Ronnie is some magical untouchable God that no one could ever hope to come close to because he's not , in his reign he was almost beaten by Flex , Kevin and Jay , he was eventually beaten by Gunther and Jay among others including Dexter , and Victor ! stop trying to rewrite history
League my iPhone does this stupid predictive spelling thing. I'm a Ron fan
I am no fan boy.... I speak the truth as I see it and a few others people have said exactly what I've said on this thread... Kai is in no way comparable to Coleman.... Kai looks like garbage compared to Coleman sorry no contest... That would be like me comparing fux to Yates ... Bb is a subjective sport I don't really dwell on the judges score card I use my own eyes ... Ronnie bigger than Kai denser than Kai more conditioned than Kai better insertions than Kai smaller waist than Kai better symetry than Kai ....
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phil >kai
victor> kai
dexter >kai
and where would those guys end up in a 98 99 2000 line up with ronnie....
anyway... no point arguing the obvious
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Kai is an Abomination....a bunch of weird mismatched body parts.
the only thing on his physique that impresses me are his legs, and even they are a little funky looking
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I think visual evidence is more powerful than flaky subjective judges scores that are based on paying dues and probrably other behind the scenes activity. Let's not act like points in bb matter for shit like in other "sports".
Ronnie to bb fans and physique enthusiasts was largely considered untouchable, inlcuding fellow pros. Just look at 97 Yates to see how unreliable and worthless bb judging is ;)
yes the judging only works when the guy to you like the best is winning ::) give me a break
facts are facts and Ronnie was very beatable
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yes the judging only works when the guy to you like the best is winning ::) give me a break
facts are facts and Ronnie was very beatable
I just think it's cute that you really believe any of these contests are REALLY judged objectively
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Kai is an Abomination....a bunch of weird mismatched body parts.
the only thing on his physique that impresses me are his legs, and even they are a little funky looking
this
(http://www.muscle-build.com/images/ronnie-coleman.jpg)
(http://www.images.hotusd.com/img/Ronnie,P20Coleman.jpg.pagespeed.ce.1Eg1ehG5nw.jpg)
(http://www.all-pictures.org/celebrities/d/120824-1/Ronnie+Coleman+38.jpg)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5a0HHNz1dg4fW3CAMeq12lRU-AoURYpueEUL17OZECTFmTnqR8Q)
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yes the judging only works when the guy to you like the best is winning ::) give me a break
facts are facts and Ronnie was very beatable
do you know if yates won with perfect scores in all years or there were some exceptions??.. i am sure he did in 1993, 1995, and, 1997.. what about the other 3 years??..
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League my iPhone does this stupid predictive spelling thing. I'm a Ron fan
I am no fan boy.... I speak the truth as I see it and a few others people have said exactly what I've said on this thread... Kai is in no way comparable to Coleman.... Kai looks like garbage compared to Coleman sorry no contest... That would be like me comparing fux to Yates ... Bb is a subjective sport I don't really dwell on the judges score card I use my own eyes ... Ronnie bigger than Kai denser than Kai more conditioned than Kai better insertions than Kai smaller waist than Kai better symetry than Kai ....
You're a FAN-BOY to the 10th power and just because a few other FAN-BOYS said what you said it does NOT change the facts. You have a very biased and slanted view of what bodybuilding and go on and on about how untouchable Ronnie is when in fact the opposite is true
I hate to break this to you Kai is very comparable to Ronnie especially Ronnie 2000 , like wiggs said Ronnie 2003 is a whole other story Ronnie 2000 isn't
Ronnie 2000 might be bigger but denser? nope sorry Ronnie 2000 was huge and smooth especially compared to his form in 1998 and 2001 , so more conditioned? no way Kai holds his size and conditioning pretty damn well , better insertions? what the hell does that mean? smaller waist? perhaps , symmetry? doesn't smaller waist fall under the symmetrical criterion? I think this proves my point that you are ignorant on how contests are judged
Ronnie Coleman is a really great bodybuilder just not as great as you think he is.
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You're a FAN-BOY to the 10th power and just because a few other FAN-BOYS said what you said it does NOT change the facts. You have a very biased and slanted view of what bodybuilding and go on and on about how untouchable Ronnie is when in fact the opposite is true
I hate to break this to you Kai is very comparable to Ronnie especially Ronnie 2000 , like wiggs said Ronnie 2003 is a whole other story Ronnie 2000 isn't
Ronnie 2000 might be bigger but denser? nope sorry Ronnie 2000 was huge and smooth especially compared to his form in 1998 and 2001 , so more conditioned? no way Kai holds his size and conditioning pretty damn well , better insertions? what the hell does that mean? smaller waist? perhaps , symmetry? doesn't smaller waist fall under the symmetrical criterion? I think this proves my point that you are ignorant on how contests are judged
Ronnie Coleman is a really great bodybuilder just not as great as you think he is.
hahaha oh brother, gayer than a "I know more about analyzing men in thongs than you do!" meltdown
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I just think it's cute that you really believe any of these contests are REALLY judged objectively
No they just throw all the names in a hat and whoever they pick is deemed the winner , oh no wait it's whoever is the best at servicing the Weider brothers , no , no , wait it's whoever is the biggest major sponsor athlete wins , no , no it's who is gonna sell the most magazines or get the most traffic to Flex magazines website
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hahaha oh brother, gayer than a "I know more about analyzing men in thongs than you do!" meltdown
Gayer than Ronnie being ' untouchable ' ?
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do you know if yates won with perfect scores in all years or there were some exceptions??.. i am sure he did in 1993, 1995, and, 1997.. what about the other 3 years??..
I'm not 100% sure about 92 but I think he won with perfect scores the rest of his reign , you can lose some poses and still win with a perfect score , because both the high and low scores are tossed out
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Kai looks good in this comparison because of the lighting and angle, ronnie's back is where he is most superior to kai, bit yea kai is close, I think I called it before, Kai is closer to ronnie's status than anyone when it comes to the muscle hanging off his bones
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phil >kai
victor> kai
dexter >kai
and where would those guys end up in a 98 99 2000 line up with ronnie....
anyway... no point arguing the obvious
Kai has beaten all of them , great point you made. ::)
and who is saying Kai could or would beat Ronnie? I said he's comparable to Ronnie in that pose which I presented
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Also kai is closest to ronnie in terms of their apporach to lifting, both are very sober and focussed, and they ave very similar genetics... their legs come out of their hips in the same weird way, dunno how to describe this, their quads also start really high up allowing them to have huge huge thighs, their arms are the same, big heavy thick hanging tris and a sharp peak on the bicep. Very similar structures i'd say
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I'm not 100% sure about 92 but I think he won with perfect scores the rest of his reign , you can lose some poses and still win with a perfect score , because both the high and low scores are tossed out
The fact that a guy won a contest with his left arm hanging on by a thread tells me all i need to know about "judging" ::) LOLOLOL.
Oh that's right...he "willed' his way to victory with his "indomitable spirit" ::) ::) according to the muscle comics :D
Didn't know there was a "Willpower" round :P
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The fact that a guy won a contest with his left arm hanging on by a thread tells me all i need to know about "judging" ::) LOLOLOL.
Oh that's right...he "willed' his way to victory with his "indomitable spirit" ::) ::) according to the muscle comics :D
Didn't know there was a "Willpower" round :P
Well lets here your take on how contests are judged , it's obvious you have a theory .
Is it okay for a guy to win 8 Olympia titles with zero calves? I get it , torn triceps the fix is in , two missing calves it's not , a guy can win with bitch-tits and that's fine as well
It's like I said when the guy YOU like is winning everything is fine with the system but when he doesn't win it's fixed , fake , nonsense , bullshit , blah , blah , blah :-\
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Well lets here your take on how contests are judged , it's obvious you have a theory .
Is it okay for a guy to win 8 Olympia titles with zero calves? I get it , torn triceps the fix is in , two missing calves it's not , a guy can win with bitch-tits and that's fine as well
It's like I said when the guy YOU like is winning everything is fine with the system but when he doesn't win it's fixed , fake , nonsense , bullshit , blah , blah , blah :-\
where did i say anything about who i think should win or mention Coleman ?...
i said judging is bullshit.... ALL judging. Stop putting words in my mouth idiot
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where did i say anything about who i think should win or mention Coleman ?...
i said judging is bullshit.... ALL judging. Stop putting words in my mouth idiot
? know what that is? it's question mark I asked a question.. you mentioned Dorian's triceps as proof judging was a joke and in response I mentioned Ronnie's calves it's related see ' idiot ' :D
You said judging is bullshit , yeah we'll just take your word for it ::)
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? know what that is? it's question mark I asked a question.. you mentioned Dorian's triceps as proof judging was a joke and in response I mentioned Ronnie's calves it's related see ' idiot ' :D
You said judging is bullshit , yeah we'll just take your word for it ::)
No you said I'm fine when the guy I like wins and I complain when he doesnt....when I never even broached the subject of who I think should have won a specific show. Therefore putting words in my mouth....Idiot :)
I said I think all judging is fucked up.....all Mr Os have received a gift or two....I just used Dorian as an example because that was a noteworthy gift placing
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No you said I'm fine when the guy I like wins and I complain when he doesnt....when I never even broached the subject of who I think should have won a specific show. Therefore putting words in my mouth....Idiot :)
I said I think all judging is fucked up.....all Mr Os have received a gift or two....I just used Dorian as an example because that was a noteworthy gift placing
Again miss the QUESTION part? getting sensitive ' idiot '? ( another question :D )
I know what you said you never elaborated on your point of view but as we both know you're not here to discuss the subject , just troll. nothing new
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yes the judging only works when the guy to you like the best is winning ::) give me a break
facts are facts and Ronnie was very beatable
Like I said to true physique enthusiast Ronnie is the epitome of development, whether it's your cup of tea or not, and to his peers as well which counts for more than what a few old schmoes judge on their "criteria" (a criteria which seems to have no consistancy or reason). Who cares if he was beatable according to some damn near abritary judging numbers they toss out. Obviously I don't care who is winning or not as Ronnie lost and had some "close judging" calls, to me and many fellow bb's he was the best and took it to unreal levels plain and simple. I like Dorian too, as a fan of what the human body can be taken to and level of muscularity, I am no bias fan boy as Dorian to me is right behind Ron in terms of freak size in his prime and without injuries (same as Ron b4 the injuries).
You sir are a huge fan boy to even suggest that it makes any judging sense to give the man (Dorian) perfect sscore in 97. Not a stab at you just an obvious observation over time here. Other pros did not have the level of respect for Dorian they have for Ron and their respective wins.
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Again miss the QUESTION part? getting sensitive ' idiot '? ( another question :D )
I know what you said you never elaborated on your point of view but as we both know you're not here to discuss the subject , just troll. nothing new
No..LOLOL.....I'll leave melting over which thong warrior was better 15 years ago to you :D
I'm simply stating my opinion that the judging has been suspect in the IFBB from day one. I don't expect you to agree with me and I really don't care....I'm not going to put words in your mouth or constantly change the argument....that's your deal.....its not that serious
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No..LOLOL.....I'll leave melting over which thong warrior was better 15 years ago to you :D
I'm simply stating my opinion that the judging has been suspect in the IFBB from day one. I don't expect you to agree with me and I really don't care....I'm not going to put words in your mouth or constantly change the argument....that's your deal.....its not that serious
Hahahahaha thong warrior .. says the guy who watched these thong warriors live and in person , up close and personal :D you got front row right? ;)
keep trolling sport it's what you do
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Like I said to true physique enthusiast Ronnie is the epitome of development, whether it's your cup of tea or not, and to his peers as well which counts for more than what a few old schmoes judge on their "criteria" (a criteria which seems to have no consistancy or reason). Who cares if he was beatable according to some damn near abritary judging numbers they toss out. Obviously I don't care who is winning or not as Ronnie lost and had some "close judging" calls, to me and many fellow bb's he was the best and took it to unreal levels plain and simple. I like Dorian too, as a fan of what the human body can be taken to and level of muscularity, I am no bias fan boy as Dorian to me is right behind Ron in terms of freak size in his prime and without injuries (same as Ron b4 the injuries).
You sir are a huge fan boy to even suggest that it makes any judging sense to give the man (Dorian) perfect sscore in 97. Not a stab at you just an obvious observation over time here. Other pros did not have the level of respect for Dorian they have for Ron and their respective wins.
It makes no sense how Dorian can win with perfect scores because you don't know how contests are judged , has nothing to do with being a fan-boy , one can lose a few mandatory poses and still win with a perfect score because the high and low scores are tossed out
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The fact that a guy won a contest with his left arm hanging on by a thread tells me all i need to know about "judging" ::) LOLOLOL.
Oh that's right...he "willed' his way to victory with his "indomitable spirit" ::) ::) according to the muscle comics :D
Didn't know there was a "Willpower" round :P
This, through sheer will he made up for missing muscles. These are the same guys that flame Ron when he had his issues with injuries.
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This, through sheer will he made up for missing muscles. These are the same guys that flame Ron when he had his issues with injuries.
It wasn't the injuries that prevented Ronnie was winning it was his very lackluster conditioning and I said if Ronnie was hard as nails he could have still won
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It makes no sense how Dorian can win with perfect scores because you don't know how contests are judged , has nothing to do with being a fan-boy , one can lose a few mandatory poses and still win with a perfect score because the high and low scores are tossed out
The judging makes no sense, clearly therer is supsedly an objective reasoning to the scores but the subjective judging part is the one that has major issues not the mathematical part.
Your also using bb contest scores to asses whos physique is better, which are very difficult to take seriously no matter how hard you explain how scores are compiled. The rest of us are using our eyes.
Dorian in his prime to me was amazing but when he had a mangled arm he was far from it. Dorian was missing bi and tri, Ron just had relatively small 21 inch claves he was not missing calves 8)
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It wasn't the injuries that prevented Ronnie was winning it was his very lackluster conditioning and I said if Ronnie was hard as nails he could have still won
Hard as nails Ronnie should'nt have won in 07 with the way his lats, quads, and tris were looking.. Great conditioning should not make up for obvious physical deficiencies imo.. I would tend to agree in 06 however considering how weak the field was and his freakish amount of size as well as his injuries not being quite as noticible :-\
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The judging makes no sense, clearly therer is supsedly an objective reasoning to the scores but the subjective judging part is the one that has major issues not the mathematical part.
Your also using bb contest scores to asses whos physique is better, which are very difficult to take seriously no matter how hard you explain how scores are compiled. The rest of us are using our eyes.
Dorian in his prime to me was amazing but when he had a mangled arm he was far from it. Dorian was missing bi and tri, Ron just had relatively small 21 inch claves he was not missing calves 8)
Hahahahahahaha relatively small 21" calves if these calves are 21" his arms are 45" , you keep using your ' eyes ' they've been bringing you excellent results thus far
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They do look small as shit in some angles, but a lot better in others. I would also look up a pic where Dorian looks to have 16 inch arms but I really don't have to as most 96 and up shots do ;)
That's your criteria for you, maybe they'll have an amputee Mr. O as long as he's dry and conditioned huh?
And epic dodging of everything except the 21 inch part lol.
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Wolf owned Ronnie at the 2007 Olympia! And Jay Cutler for that matter. Wolf should have won the 2007 Olympia!
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Wolf owned Ronnie at the 2007 Olympia! And Jay Cutler for that matter. Wolf should have won the 2007 Olympia!
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He didn't fit the criteria?
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They do look small as shit in some angles, but a lot better in others. I would also look up a pic where Dorian looks to have 16 inch arms but I really don't have to as most 96 and up shots do ;)
That's your criteria for you, maybe they'll have an amputee Mr. O as long as he's dry and conditioned huh?
And epic dodging of everything except the 21 inch part lol.
Epic nothing , I already established you do not know how contests are judged and are basing everything off of what you prefer. I tell you how contests are judged you dismiss it not much more I can do
again you're the one who claimed his calves are 21" and they were not missing , even entertaining they were this big ( which is slim and none ) they're still high , they still lack diamond shape , proportion in relation to his quads as well as development of the gastrocnemious ( both inner and outer heads ) as well as a matching soleus , for all intents & purposes his calves are missing in a LOT of areas
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Wolf owned Ronnie at the 2007 Olympia! And Jay Cutler for that matter. Wolf should have won the 2007 Olympia!
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I think Wolf outclassed Ronnie in 07
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Epic nothing , I already established you do not know how contests are judged and are basing everything off of what you prefer. I tell you how contests are judged you dismiss it not much more I can do
again you're the one who claimed his calves are 21" and they were not missing , even entertaining they were this big ( which is slim and none ) they're still high , they still lack diamond shape , proportion in relation to his quads as well as development of the gastrocnemious ( both inner and outer heads ) as well as a matching soleus , for all intents & purposes his calves are missing in a LOT of areas
clearly a guestimate based on Ron's very own claims. Missing arms are still far worse than underdeveloped claves (not missing ;)) for the ultime physique that is the Mr. O.
Who cares that you 'establish" how contests are supposedly run, everyone and their mothers know that they are not truly judged 100% objectively.. I guess not much either man can here, I refuse to see bb contests as objectively run competitions no matter what is claimed, and like Groink pointed out you're still under the delusion that they are :-\ ohh well glad we wont spend 1,000 pages lol
At least I can rest easy that most observers share my point of view.
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Here is the real 07 Champ!
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I think Wolf outclassed Ronnie in 07
Wolf's physique is aesthetically superior to Coleman's and Cutlers. It would be good news if a physique such as his would win the Olympia this year.
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Wolf's physique is aesthetically superior to Coleman's and Cutlers. It would be good news if a physique such as his would win the Olympia this year.
The only issue is Wolf tore a calf muscle which made his small calves even smaller. In 07 they were ok, now they are really worse! Too bad.
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clearly a guestimate based on Ron's very own claims. Missing arms are still far worse than underdeveloped claves (not missing ;)) for the ultime physique that is the Mr. O.
Who cares that you 'establish" how contests are supposedly run, everyone and their mothers know that they are not truly judged 100% objectively.. I guess not much either man can here, I refuse to see bb contests as objectively run competitions no matter what is claimed, and like Groink pointed out you're still under the delusion that they are :-\ ohh well glad we wont spend 1,000 pages lol
At least I can rest easy that most observers share my point of view.
clearly a guestimate based on Ron's very own claims. Missing arms are still far worse than underdeveloped claves (not missing ;)) for the ultime physique that is the Mr. O.
My ass Ron claimed his calves were 21" I love how you throw that out there with nothing what so ever to back you up , I'll just take your word for it ::) and missing arms? are you talking 1997? or in general , because Dorian at his best had outstanding triceps and forearms
Who cares that you 'establish" how contests are supposedly run, everyone and their mothers know that they are not truly judged 100% objectively.. I guess not much either man can here, I refuse to see bb contests as objectively run competitions no matter what is claimed, and like Groink pointed out you're still under the delusion that they are :-\ ohh well glad we wont spend 1,000 pages lol
Yes they are run 100% all the time when the guy YOU think is better wins ::) contests are fixed , inaccurate , bullshit , fake , nonsense and every other lame excuse when the guy who wins doesn't fit what you think should win , and you talk about delusion? oh the irony
At least I can rest easy that most observers share my point of view.
rest easy , just because an opinion is popular doesn't mean it's right , enjoy Ronnie is the bestest ever and many people who don't have a clue on how the sport is judged , who think Ronnie had 21" calves , and who think Ronnie was in a league of his own and no one should even be mentioned in the same breathe in , all agree ! you're in good company
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Dorians arm's were never good they were simply not as bad, shit biceps always, but you also defend torn arm Dorians objective perfect scores too ::)
I'll look up the 21 inch claim when I get home (point was Ron's calves are not as small as you would like to suggest), don't remember exactly where I heard it.. some of us use good old fashioned memory as a general reference as opposed to being glued to getbig and furiously google-researching.
I can not debate with a nut job who thinks 97 Dorian had a respectable Mr. O presentation and really believes bb contests are legitimate competitions.. delusionite.
I'll take popular opinion based on visuals over a broken criteria based on old schmoes and other "factors". I don't care about bb contest points, I simply admire impressive physiques.
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Dorians arm's were never good they were simply not as bad, shit biceps always, but you also defend torn arm Dorians objective perfect scores too ::)
I'll look up the 21 inch claim when I get home (point was Ron's calves are not as small as you would like to suggest), don't remember exactly where I heard it.. some of us use good old fashioned memory as a general reference as opposed to being glued to getbig and furiously google-researching.
I can not debate with a nut job who thinks 97 Dorian had a respectable Mr. O presentation and really believes bb contests are legitimate competitions.. delusionite.
I'll take popular opinion based on visuals over a broken criteria based on old schmoes and other "factors". I don't care about bb contest points, I simply admire impressive physiques.
Dorians arm's were never good they were simply not as bad, shit biceps always, but you also defend torn arm Dorians objective perfect scores too ::)
his arms were never good? biceps , triceps and forearms? were never good? delusionite oh the irony
And it was explained how Dorian could lose a few poses and still win with a perfect score a concept you're having trouble with
I'll look up the 21 inch claim when I get home (point was Ron's calves are not as small as you would like to suggest), don't remember exactly where I heard it.. some of us use good old fashioned memory as a general reference as opposed to being glued to getbig and furiously google-researching.
Keep looking for that quote ::) 21" his calves were in no way shape or form comparable to his arms which were over 21" to use your own analogy , just use your eyes and again even if they were 21" they still sucked badly
I can not debate with a nut job who thinks 97 Dorian had a respectable Mr. O presentation and really believes bb contests are legitimate competitions.. [
You cannot debate at all because you don't know how contests are judged and when explained how to dismiss it . you don't wanna debate you just want to state your ignorant opinion as fact
I'll take popular opinion based on visuals over a broken criteria based on old schmoes and other "factors". I don't care about bb contest points, I simply admire impressive physiques.
thanks for admitting the obvious , nothing matters except what you like.
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The only issue is Wolf tore a calf muscle which made his small calves even smaller. In 07 they were ok, now they are really worse! Too bad.
How the heck did he tear his calf????
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Hahahahaha thong warrior .. says the guy who watched these thong warriors live and in person , up close and personal :D you got front row right? ;)
keep trolling sport it's what you do
Sure did.....got VIP tickets and all expenses paid trips to the 98 and 99 O's from my wife's company.....so i went. is there a problem ?
would i spend my own money to go on those trips ? hell no
How old are you ND ?
you can't possibly be a grown man and act so childish...you are constantly with the "Ha Ha....gotcha :D" over the dumbest shit
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How the heck did he tear his calf????
Not sure. Maybe he overworked them? But from recent pictures it is clear one has been torn - similar to the way Dorian tore his biceps.
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Sure did.....got VIP tickets and all expenses paid trips to the 98 and 99 O's from my wife's company.....so i went. is there a problem ?
would i spend my own money to go on those trips ? hell no
How old are you ND ?
you can't possibly be a grown man and act so childish...you are constantly with the "Ha Ha....gotcha :D" over the dumbest shit
LMFAO how old are you ND? the irony of you of all people asking that question :D
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A lot of people really do underestimate just how big ron really is. To compare him to dorian is laughable. What parts of him stood out? A huge back is great and all, but he was awful everywhere else. Dorian probably has the worst biceps of any mr olympia ever, and that isnt even an exaggeration; whereas ron literally had it ALL. He had the best quads, best arms, best back, best traps! To claim that he is substandard because of weak calves ( which i might add dorian had calves almost as big as his quads) is blasphemous. Even his triceps are huge, theres a photo of ron and levrone flexing tris and kevin looks like a little kid in the pic. Sorry for the grammar im on my phone.
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A lot of people really do underestimate just how big ron really is. To compare him to dorian is laughable. What parts of him stood out? A huge back is great and all, but he was awful everywhere else. Dorian probably has the worst biceps of any mr olympia ever, and that isnt even an exaggeration; whereas ron literally had it ALL. He had the best quads, best arms, best back, best traps! To claim that he is substandard because of weak calves ( which i might add dorian had calves almost as big as his quads) is blasphemous. Even his triceps are huge, theres a photo of ron and levrone flexing tris and kevin looks like a little kid in the pic. Sorry for the grammar im on my phone.
So you're voting for the black man just to clarify.
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So you're voting for the black man just to clarify.
Yes i voted for obama
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Yes i voted for obama
He's a mulatto.
I'm Reeves, the Magic Mulatto ™ and I approve this message. ;D
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A lot of people really do underestimate just how big ron really is. To compare him to dorian is laughable. What parts of him stood out? A huge back is great and all, but he was awful everywhere else. Dorian probably has the worst biceps of any mr olympia ever, and that isnt even an exaggeration; whereas ron literally had it ALL. He had the best quads, best arms, best back, best traps! To claim that he is substandard because of weak calves ( which i might add dorian had calves almost as big as his quads) is blasphemous. Even his triceps are huge, theres a photo of ron and levrone flexing tris and kevin looks like a little kid in the pic. Sorry for the grammar im on my phone.
Bullshit buddy. Yeah buddy. Dorian had great forearms, huge triceps, awesome back, out of this world calves, and amazing conditioning.
That being said he should not have won the last Mr. Olympias because of the bicep injuries which were too glaring. But to say he was awful is pathetic. He would not have won the Mr. Olympia being awful. Too few have won this competition for that to be possible. And when you look at the 92 / 93 pictures he was epic.
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Contrast with Dillet and you see why Yates was much better than Dillet.
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Kai is now on another level. He is better than Jay. But he must be at his best.
George will get Kai into shape unlike Oscar......this will be ANOTHER controversial O as Jay wins and KAI dominates him (like a grapefruit) and Kai wins next year
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Kai is good but can't touch Ronnie.
lacks the symmetry and structure.
look at the waist, the lines, seriously lacking in comparison to a peak Ronnie.
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Kai is good but can't touch Ronnie.
lacks the symmetry and structure.
look at the waist, the lines, seriously lacking in comparison to a peak Ronnie.
Hulkster....??????? Holy shit, how many years. Where have you been for the past 4 years? I actually miss our mud-slinging. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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ND would make a great judge. He's the only one who knows how "contests are judged" and knows the "criteria". Plus he would get to suck dick all the time.
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LMFAO how old are you ND? the irony of you of all people asking that question :D
I'm quite aware of my age....and I say some dumb shit around here...but I KNOW i'm saying something dumb...it's a goof.
You debate like a 9 year old. when someone posts and opposing point of view , your response is to call them "stupid" ::)
I seriously can have a more engaging and respectful exchange of opposite opinions with my daughter, and she's 11
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I'm quite aware of my age....and I say some dumb shit around here...but I KNOW i'm saying something dumb...it's a goof.
You debate like a 9 year old. when someone posts and opposing point of view , your response is to call them "stupid" ::)
I seriously can have a more engaging and respectful exchange of opposite opinions with my daughter, and she's 11
ND is a creepy homo
Flex magazine is his bible
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Ronnie is in a nother league! There will never be another ronnie coleman! look at his legs! look how his biceps peak! look at how shredded his
glutes are-no homo. kai need to shave his head makes one appear more muscular.Ronnie is just crazy thick!.Kai is great but no way another ronnie! close but no cigar! Now maybe in the future he might catch up. kai is still somewhat of a new pro.
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Ronnie is in a nother league! There will never be another ronnie coleman! look at his legs! look how his biceps peak! look at how shredded his
glutes are-no homo. kai need to shave his head makes one appear more muscular.Ronnie is just crazy thick!.Kai is great but no way another ronnie! close but no cigar! Now maybe in the future he might catch up. kai is still somewhat of a new pro.
Catch up how exactly? Have they invented drugs to make your genetic structure better??? ALERT THE MEDIA!!!! oh wait, no they haven't....
Kai will never be equal to Ronnie, though some of his shots are certainly impressive. Anytime you doubt the supremacy of Ronnie pop The Unbelievable into your dvd player and be amazed...I just watched it couple days ago for probably the 50th time and it amazes me to this very day. Unreal. UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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ND is a creepy homo
Flex magazine is his bible
only when it supports what he wants to say :D
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if i remember right ND must be 36 or 37 now..
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I'm quite aware of my age....and I say some dumb shit around here...but I KNOW i'm saying something dumb...it's a goof.
You debate like a 9 year old. when someone posts and opposing point of view , your response is to call them "stupid" ::)
I seriously can have a more engaging and respectful exchange of opposite opinions with my daughter, and she's 11
Oh the old ' it's a goof ' ploy ::) when someone posts an opposing point of view that contradicts reality and facts and after being explained how so yet they still cling to that ignorant biased point of view then they become stupid , yourself included.
You can't have a ' engaging ' and ' respectful ' exchange because that's not what you're looking for , you're looking to troll your ' opinion ' and state it as ' fact ' again the irony of YOU of all people bitching about someone's age. one doesn't need to look to far these past months in your posts to see the utter hypocrisy in you bitching about someone acting their age , oh but somehow Groink is ' goofing ' yet the rest of us aren't , more hypocrisy on your behalf nothing new.
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debating "my muscleman" is better than yours, is serious business!
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Kai is an Abomination....a bunch of weird mismatched body parts.
the only thing on his physique that impresses me are his legs, and even they are a little funky looking
agree, unpleasant looking physique.
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A lot of people really do underestimate just how big ron really is. To compare him to dorian is laughable. What parts of him stood out? A huge back is great and all, but he was awful everywhere else. Dorian probably has the worst biceps of any mr olympia ever, and that isnt even an exaggeration; whereas ron literally had it ALL. He had the best quads, best arms, best back, best traps! To claim that he is substandard because of weak calves ( which i might add dorian had calves almost as big as his quads) is blasphemous. Even his triceps are huge, theres a photo of ron and levrone flexing tris and kevin looks like a little kid in the pic. Sorry for the grammar im on my phone.
Agreed.
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But kajs posing is disgustingly gay and he done despickable things to get money. i cant understand why "straight" men can seriously look at his posing and not feel embarrassed for doing it.
My feelings exactly. Same goes for Toney Freeman's bedroom music routine :-\ :(
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i also see kai's hair style very ugly and disgusting!!..
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Oh the old ' it's a goof ' ploy ::) when someone posts an opposing point of view that contradicts reality and facts and after being explained how so yet they still cling to that ignorant biased point of view then they become stupid , yourself included.
You can't have a ' engaging ' and ' respectful ' exchange because that's not what you're looking for , you're looking to troll your ' opinion ' and state it as ' fact ' again the irony of YOU of all people bitching about someone's age. one doesn't need to look to far these past months in your posts to see the utter hypocrisy in you bitching about someone acting their age , oh but somehow Groink is ' goofing ' yet the rest of us aren't , more hypocrisy on your behalf nothing new.
Dude you act like someone shot your mother if they say something bad about a bodybuilder you never even met who competed 15 fucking years ago....a complete stranger. I don't think Dorian himself would give a fuck as much as you do if he posted here.
Plus you don't even lift weights and you are a puny turd :D :D
You need help ;)
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Dude you act like someone shot your mother if they say something bad about a bodybuilder you never even met who competed 15 fucking years ago....a complete stranger. I don't think Dorian himself would give a fuck as much as you do if he posted here.Plus you don't even lift weights and you are a puny turd :D :D
You need help ;)
yep
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ND would make a great judge. He's the only one who knows how "contests are judged" and knows the "criteria". Plus he would get to suck dick all the time.
;D
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Dude you act like someone shot your mother if they say something bad about a bodybuilder you never even met who competed 15 fucking years ago....a complete stranger. I don't think Dorian himself would give a fuck as much as you do if he posted here.
Plus you don't even lift weights and you are a puny turd :D :D
You need help ;)
Quite on the contrary , it's all the Coleman nutt-huggers who act like it's a cardinal sin to dare speak ill of him or worse compare him to anyone ::)
And oh-nos I don't even lift weights ( BODYBUILDING
the only culture where all you have to do is SAY something, and it becomes an unimpeachable fact
) , is this the part I should post a pic to try and earn GetBig respect points? to show you up for kicking e-sand in my face? ??? oh wait maybe I should a Youtube video like you posing for the lads? :-X
troll on Groink it's what you do ;)
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if i remember right ND must be 36 or 37 now..
he has spent at least half these years defending dorian on GB and reading about him in flex magazines :-X ;D
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he has spent at least half these years on GB correcting ignorant fanboys who don't have a clue on what they are talking about
fixed ;D
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fixed ;D
Thank goodness....what would we do without you keeping the world safe from people who think Ronnie Coleman was a better BBer than Dorian Yates...your selfless sacrifice...devoting your entire life to this crucial issue, allows us all to live in freedom ::) ::)
You freak
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Thank goodness....what would we do without you keeping the world safe from people who think Ronnie Coleman was a better BBer than Dorian Yates...your selfless sacrifice...devoting your entire life to this crucial issue, allows us all to live in freedom ::) ::)
You freak
Actually no this has nothing to do with Dorian ( until you brought him up ) it had to do with a comparison to Kai Greene and like Dorian it was scoffed at to even consider this , it's this type of zealot behavior is getting high lighted and the fan-boys who spew it yourself included
You can't even follow the thread because it's like I touched on , it's not what you're here for anyway troll
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1) Argue about muscle men.
2) Then declare that arguing about muscle men is gay when you have nothing else to say.
3) ?????
4) Profit!
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Actually no this has nothing to do with Dorian ( until you brought him up ) it had to do with a comparison to Kai Greene and like Dorian it was scoffed at to even consider this , it's this type of zealot behavior is getting high lighted and the fan-boys who spew it yourself included
You can't even follow the thread because it's like I touched on , it's not what you're here for anyway troll
I was citing an example of terrible judging, i used Dorian because i knew the big red "Dorian Bell" in your basement would go off and you would start melting :D
You delivered, as always....one million posts later.
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I was citing an example of terrible judging, i used Dorian because i knew the big red "Dorian Bell" in your basement would go off and you would start melting :D
You delivered, as always....one million posts later.
I don't care what you were citing , this had absolutely nothing to do with Dorian or terrible judging it was a thread about Ronnie and Kai until the Ronnie fan-boys melted down about how it's inconceivable to even mention anyone compared to Ronnie and me pointing out that fallacy and the ignorance of those who spew it
you keep trolling , I'll keep correcting your ignorance and pointing out your hypocrisy.
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I don't care what you were citing , this had absolutely nothing to do with Dorian or terrible judging it was a thread about Ronnie and Kai until the Ronnie fan-boys melted down about how it's inconceivable to even mention anyone compared to Ronnie and me pointing out that fallacy and the ignorance of those who spew it
you keep trolling , I'll keep correcting your ignorance and pointing out your hypocrisy.
LOLOLOL....yes you do....if i didn't use Dorian as an example, the Alarm wouldn't have went off.... and you wouldn't have donned your size medium "unmatched density and dryness" t shirt :D
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LOLOLOL....yes you do....if i didn't use Dorian as an example, the Alarm wouldn't have went off.... and you wouldn't have donned your size medium "unmatched density and dryness" t shirt :D
Typical troll response , no substance , no content and nothing to do with the original topic :D
like I said ......... please continue
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(http://www.provitamin.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ronnie-coleman-big-bodybuilder.jpg)
(http://www.royfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/a_ronnie_coleman_wow.jpg)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvKvnlGbjRL2Zsk09EkS6NP5sbTzHJfboi4_vqeBOLJmAAydVG8A)
(http://www.ronnie-coleman.com/wp-content/gallery/ronniecoleman/ronnie-coleman-10.jpg)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR926yh2-7GtWoHjy8cC9KNGiFqkr0vgwNmH7vZuWG0daI6Kj2OTg)
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Typical troll response , no substance , no content and nothing to do with the original topic :D
like I said ......... please continue
No...it's just the truth ;)
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No...it's just the truth ;)
BODYBUILDING
the only culture where all you have to do is SAY something, and it becomes an unimpeachable fact
truth LMAO thanks for playing , next
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Lets get the topic back from the trolls
Here is Kai on Ronnie
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This public tete e tete betwixt Groink and ND is akin to watching a tennis match where they keep trying to show who has the biggest, fuzziest balls. ;)
But Groink still has the arms. ;D Have fun gentlemen.
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BODYBUILDING
the only culture where all you have to do is SAY something, and it becomes an unimpeachable fact
truth LMAO thanks for playing , next
Thank you....keep quoting that...It's got a good ring to it, and if you say it enough times it will become part of BBing culture...and i wrote it ...not you :D
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Thank you....keep quoting that...It's got a good ring to it, and if you say it enough times it will become part of BBing culture...and i wrote it ...not you :D
I will keep exposing your hypocrisy , it's what I do. it's why you're in here trolling and not even attempting to sticking to the topic ;)
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Lets get the topic back from the trolls
Here is Kai on Ronnie
Deep, I think Ronnie enjoys the challenge of the weights...remember he had said in that roundtable with Flex and Shawn, that he was squatting with 600 and he thought someone hit him, and he kept on going, not realizing that he herniated a disk...
Yet, here he is squatting 805, 5 weeks before the O with a herniated disk and other injuries...
So, I do agree with Kai as well, Ronnie must call on some sort of reserve "rage" to power thru...
I swear, someday, there needs to be another bber that does The Unbelievable 2....
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I will keep exposing your hypocrisy , it's what I do. it's why you're in here trolling and not even attempting to sticking to the topic ;)
I posted my opinion on the topic....i don't feel the need to do it 875,000 times like you ;)
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I posted my opinion on the topic....i don't feel the need to do it 875,000 times like you ;)
And? you want a cookie? I'll type what I want , when I want , how many times I want , if you don't like that I don't care. I'll do what I do ( correcting ignorant fan-boys like you ) and you do what you do ( troll and try to impress people )
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And? you want a cookie? I'll type what I want , when I want , how many times I want , if you don't like that I don't care. I'll do what I do ( correcting ignorant fan-boys like you ) and you do what you do ( troll and try to impress people )
Awwwwwww...you mad ?? :D
ND......KEEPING THE WORLD SAFE FROM PEOPLE SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT DORIAN YATES SINCE 2005 :D :D
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(http://www.provitamin.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ronnie-coleman-big-bodybuilder.jpg)
(http://www.royfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/a_ronnie_coleman_wow.jpg)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvKvnlGbjRL2Zsk09EkS6NP5sbTzHJfboi4_vqeBOLJmAAydVG8A)
(http://www.ronnie-coleman.com/wp-content/gallery/ronniecoleman/ronnie-coleman-10.jpg)
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Awwwwwww...you mad ?? :D
ND......KEEPING THE WORLD SAFE FROM PEOPLE SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT DORIAN YATES SINCE 2005 :D :D
I don't get mad in the internets bro , I leave that to you are your multiple meltdowns over the past couple of months lol when I'm bitching & moaning like you did then you can say I'm mad ;) shall I drag up all the gems you posted? rub your nose in your own piss & shit? ;D
Keep trying to impress me Groink because it's hasn't happened yet
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Top pic is morphed
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Top pic is morphed
nope
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nope
It is , the one with Stuttering John
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only when it supports what he wants to say :D
That's how all holy scripts work.
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Deep, I think Ronnie enjoys the challenge of the weights...remember he had said in that roundtable with Flex and Shawn, that he was squatting with 600 and he thought someone hit him, and he kept on going, not realizing that he herniated a disk...
Yet, here he is squatting 805, 5 weeks before the O with a herniated disk and other injuries...
So, I do agree with Kai as well, Ronnie must call on some sort of reserve "rage" to power thru...
I swear, someday, there needs to be another bber that does The Unbelievable 2....
kai is 100% right.... any true lifter knows that sometimes to break a previous personal best you have to go to certain place in your mind.
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I don't get mad in the internets bro , I leave that to you are your multiple meltdowns over the past couple of months lol when I'm bitching & moaning like you did then you can say I'm mad ;) shall I drag up all the gems you posted? rub your nose in your own piss & shit? ;D
Keep trying to impress me Groink because it's hasn't happened yet
ND !!!!!!....... ND !!!!!!! :o The YATESGRID has detected a post over at MD's forums !!!......stating that Dorian's left quad was deformed from the tear.....CLEARLY IMPLYING THAT YATES LEG'S WEREN'T PERFECT !!!!!!!
WE MUST RESPOND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :'( :o :D :D
HaHahaaaaa...you small turd.
PS....post whatever you want you dicknocker, im terrified ::)
that's what i'm talking about with your idiotic "gotcha :D" mentality...I know what i've posted here...I posted it stupid ;)....you act like you hacked my account and have PM's ::)
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(http://www.provitamin.in/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/ronnie-coleman-big-bodybuilder.jpg)
(http://www.royfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/a_ronnie_coleman_wow.jpg)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQvKvnlGbjRL2Zsk09EkS6NP5sbTzHJfboi4_vqeBOLJmAAydVG8A)
(http://www.ronnie-coleman.com/wp-content/gallery/ronniecoleman/ronnie-coleman-10.jpg)
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR926yh2-7GtWoHjy8cC9KNGiFqkr0vgwNmH7vZuWG0daI6Kj2OTg)
Wow man pic#4 really shuts the door on pretty much anyone saying there is an heir apparent to Ronnie's reign of having the greatest back of all time. Those traps are just sickening, not that his lats aren't amazing as well but his traps...FUCK!!!
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the grapefruit fucker can't touch this :P
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Hulkster....??????? Holy shit, how many years. Where have you been for the past 4 years? I actually miss our mud-slinging. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
LOL
I'm still around.
but I lurk now more than I post.
met the right woman and life is good ;D
but I still check out my old stomping grounds from time to time ;D
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LOL you cannot take pics from diff shows etc place them next to each other and compare..
The only way to compare is to have each at his best standing next to each other and thats never gona happen -- kai is also a dwarf, Ronnie at his best would murder him if they were standing next to each other..only thing they have in common is there guts
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Kai is now on another level. He is better than Jay. But he must be at his best.
You think he is better then Jay is all you can claim, I like him better too, however he has yet to beat Jay so officially Jay is still better.
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LOL you cannot take pics from diff shows etc place them next to each other and compare..
The only way to compare is to have each at his best standing next to each other and thats never gona happen -- kai is also a dwarf, Ronnie at his best would murder him if they were standing next to each other..only thing they have in common is there guts
+ both are black :D
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this is the most impressive picturre of a bodybuilder i have ever seen and i hve seen many many many ,, i dont think you will ebver withness somethign like this again
gh15 approved
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+ both are black :D
And this :D
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that picture above represent REAL MUSCLE blown up philsulina style but! REAL MUSCLE TISSUE REAL FOUNDATION BLOWN UP AND DUE TO LOWER USAGE OF INSULINA FROM BEFORE AS IN DIDNT ABUSE THE SHIT OUT OF IT BEFORE HAND...HIS SKIN WAS STILL THIN WHEN HE ABUSED IT TO BEGIN WITH!
this is best bodybuilder in history
gh15 approved
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that picture above represent REAL MUSCLE blown up philsulina style but! REAL MUSCLE TISSUE REAL FOUNDATION BLOWN UP AND DUE TO LOWER USAGE OF INSULINA FROM BEFORE AS IN DIDNT ABUSE THE SHIT OUT OF IT BEFORE HAND...HIS SKIN WAS STILL THIN WHEN HE ABUSED IT TO BEGIN WITH!
this is best bodybuilder in history
gh15 approved
I beg to differ and I caution you against attempting to rebuke me. Coleslaw is a turgid wasteland of shitty drugs. The only reason he's black is because he's so full of that shit. If he were to get hit by a bus and had the shit knocked out of him, he'd look like Michael Jackson. White and skinny.
This assclown Coleslaw wouldn't be shit without his shit. Of course neither would any top bodybuilder and if the so-called playing field weren't such a sinkhole of drugs, then perhaps we would see real physiques that last a lifetime. I blame the film Pumping Iron. Why?
Because as soon as men and boys caught a glimpse of Arnold, Columbu, Katz and Waller and then they saw the "regular" guys that were entered in that little contest, what was it called... Mr. Boiled Peanut Festival? The one that Katz was guest posing at in the film. Well, everyone wanted to be the big players, they especially wanted to be the Oak. I would wager (and here it is pure conjecture on my part as there is no such thing as time travel) that were we able to bring Arnold into the present from his prime past and he was supplied with the crap that the chumpions of today inject and ingest, the Oak would destroy them. And he would avoid the pregnant guppy gut so prominently displayed by old assclown Coleslaw and others.
These turds of today want nothing more than to be Arnold. And that would be the Oak's advantage because he is Arnold. Sergio would crush them as well and for all the same reasons except the Myth is his own man and has no desire to be Arnold, just to beat Arnold. Prime Nubret or Zane would level them with their non pareil combination of size, shape, symmetry and aesthetics.
Coleslaw is the best bodybuilder in history? Fuck that noise. He's so full of shit he can't go for a walk without being inundated with flies. Oh yeah... Assclown Coleslaw is a "born again christian". Riiiiiiight. What a lying sack of shit. In some ways I hope that the real Christians are right, just so this barely ambulatory mound of elephant dung can go to hell when he assumes room temperature.
"Thank you Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezussss sssssssssssssssss!"
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I beg to differ and I caution you against attempting to rebuke me. Coleslaw is a turgid wasteland of shitty drugs. The only reason he's black is because he's so full of that shit. If he were to get hit by a bus and had the shit knocked out of him, he'd look like Michael Jackson. White and skinny.
This assclown Coleslaw wouldn't be shit without his shit. Of course neither would any top bodybuilder and if the so-called playing field weren't such a sinkhole of drugs, then perhaps we would see real physiques that last a lifetime. I blame the film Pumping Iron. Why?
Because as soon as men and boys caught a glimpse of Arnold, Columbu, Katz and Waller and then they saw the "regular" guys that were entered in that little contest, what was it called... Mr. Boiled Peanut Festival? The one that Katz was guest posing at in the film. Well, everyone wanted to be the big players, they especially wanted to be the Oak. I would wager (and here it is pure conjecture on my part as there is no such thing as time travel) that were we able to bring Arnold into the present from his prime past and he was supplied with the crap that the chumpions of today inject and ingest, the Oak would destroy them. And he would avoid the pregnant guppy gut so prominently displayed by old assclown Coleslaw and others.
These turds of today want nothing more than to be Arnold. And that would be the Oak's advantage because he is Arnold. Sergio would crush them as well and for all the same reasons except the Myth is his own man and has no desire to be Arnold, just to beat Arnold. Prime Nubret or Zane would level them with their non pareil combination of size, shape, symmetry and aesthetics.
Coleslaw is the best bodybuilder in history? Fuck that noise. He's so full of shit he can't go for a walk without being inundated with flies. Oh yeah... Assclown Coleslaw is a "born again christian". Riiiiiiight. What a lying sack of shit. In some ways I hope that the real Christians are right, just so this barely ambulatory mound of elephant dung can go to hell when he assumes room temperature.
"Thank you Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezussss sssssssssssssssss!"
Just get on the gear already and stop complaining :D
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that picture above represent REAL MUSCLE blown up philsulina style but! REAL MUSCLE TISSUE REAL FOUNDATION BLOWN UP AND DUE TO LOWER USAGE OF INSULINA FROM BEFORE AS IN DIDNT ABUSE THE SHIT OUT OF IT BEFORE HAND...HIS SKIN WAS STILL THIN WHEN HE ABUSED IT TO BEGIN WITH!
this is best bodybuilder in history
gh15 approved
the best bb in history must be at least great in all poses.. ronnie wasn't..
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Ron's got the Height and Obvious Taper on Green (Coleman of 1998 that is) however Greens back is near as good in certain poses and his Quads as big and more Probably Shredded, Biceps etc very good, its his Taper in recent years that is getting worst that Mid section getting WIDER all the time as his BW increases, His MM is Excellent and compares well with a Prime Coleman
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Ron's got the Height and Obvious Taper on Green (Coleman of 1998 that is) however Greens back is near as good in certain poses and his Quads as big and more Probably Shredded, Biceps etc very good, its his Taper in recent years that is getting worst that Mid section getting WIDER all the time as his BW increases, His MM is Excellent and compares well with a Prime Coleman
imo his quads shape wise are better than ronnie's.. but ronnie's hair cut is much better.. what is this shit over his head :-\
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Yip needs to cut that Hair... side chest 2011 NY Pro
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Yip needs to cut that Hair... side chest 2011 NY Pro
his lower body is more balanced that his upper.. does he have long legs for his torso like ronnie or it's just me??..
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to even compare kai green to ron colman is shame ,, then again ...what else can you do thats what you have now day ,, cant bring back ron or haney so you have kai lol he is much better than philsulina though so atleast that
gh15 approved
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his lower body is more balanced that his upper.. does he have long legs for his torso like ronnie or it's just me??..
nah its just this pic... camera is slightly lower thus making the legs look longer
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2009 AC
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2009 AC
flex wheeler was the best in this pose (his AC 93 shape)!!..
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2009 AC
this picture is altered- shorten to look wider unless his tibia is longer the his femur and 1 ankle is super skinny and the other fat
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kai has said himself he has a short torso, so yes
chris cormier described him as looking like a bullfrog once
yes.. i see his lower body very good and well proportioned.. his upper body is a combination of good parts but unfortunately dont go well together.. no harmony between his different parts..
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ND !!!!!!....... ND !!!!!!! :o The YATESGRID has detected a post over at MD's forums !!!......stating that Dorian's left quad was deformed from the tear.....CLEARLY IMPLYING THAT YATES LEG'S WEREN'T PERFECT !!!!!!!
WE MUST RESPOND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :'( :o :D :D
HaHahaaaaa...you small turd.
PS....post whatever you want you dicknocker, im terrified ::)
that's what i'm talking about with your idiotic "gotcha :D" mentality...I know what i've posted here...I posted it stupid ;)....you act like you hacked my account and have PM's ::)
;D
(http://www.shinyshiny.tv/4_i-dunno-lol.jpg)
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this is the most impressive picturre of a bodybuilder i have ever seen and i hve seen many many many ,, i dont think you will ebver withness somethign like this again
gh15 approved
He was pretty flexible for the size he had...
Kai holds his own with Ronnie...but cant really compare those 2...
I would say though kai has better lower body development..his legs are insane..Ronnie has him on the upper body.
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Catch up how exactly? Have they invented drugs to make your genetic structure better??? ALERT THE MEDIA!!!! oh wait, no they haven't....
Kai will never be equal to Ronnie, though some of his shots are certainly impressive. Anytime you doubt the supremacy of Ronnie pop The Unbelievable into your dvd player and be amazed...I just watched it couple days ago for probably the 50th time and it amazes me to this very day. Unreal. UNBELIEVABLE!!!
I am not arguing brother I said ronnie is in another league! kai is still young so give the guy some props. will he ever catch up to ronnies size probably not but never say never!
I think Ronnie is the best ever because he had an incredible foundation without hormones and he played his cards right he strarted with small dosees of AAS and slowly built up to HGH and some other exotics. but biggest part of ronnies success is the natural foundation and a great work ethic. there will never be another ronnie coleman! we are all lucky to have lived in the ronnie coleman era! one day there might be another ronnie but i highly doubt it. Kai is not bad though and you just never know. he at least has better calfs. I actually like heath better than kai.
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Ron's got the Height and Obvious Taper on Green (Coleman of 1998 that is) however Greens back is near as good in certain poses and his Quads as big and more Probably Shredded, Biceps etc very good, its his Taper in recent years that is getting worst that Mid section getting WIDER all the time as his BW increases, His MM is Excellent and compares well with a Prime Coleman
horrible physique
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ND !!!!!!....... ND !!!!!!! :o The YATESGRID has detected a post over at MD's forums !!!......stating that Dorian's left quad was deformed from the tear.....CLEARLY IMPLYING THAT YATES LEG'S WEREN'T PERFECT !!!!!!!
WE MUST RESPOND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :'( :o :D :D
HaHahaaaaa...you small turd.
PS....post whatever you want you dicknocker, im terrified ::)
that's what i'm talking about with your idiotic "gotcha :D" mentality...I know what i've posted here...I posted it stupid ;)....you act like you hacked my account and have PM's ::)
you mad bro? please continue with your meltdown
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LOL
I'm still around.
but I lurk now more than I post.
met the right woman and life is good ;D
but I still check out my old stomping grounds from time to time ;D
Holy Cow , Ronnie has been replaced? just kidding good luck with the relationship
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Holy Cow , Ronnie has been replaced? just kidding good luck with the relationship
lol..
i wish the same happens to you and dorian is replaced in your life ;D ;D
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lol..
i wish the same happens to you and dorian is replaced in your life ;D ;D
Oh that will never happen ;D :-X
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Guys like Cormier and Wolf make them both look like shit so who cares, not mentioning the abomination that is Dorian. Wheres Sergio when you need him.
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Yip needs to cut that Hair... side chest 2011 NY Pro
Here is Ronnie in 05' not even at his best and still beats kai in this pose. Look at the glutes/hams tie in and separation in the hams. Plus Ronnie has a good 3-4 inches in height on kai. Picture them side by side, lol.
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Here is Ronnie in 05' not even at his best and still beats kai in this pose. Look at the glutes/hams tie in and separation in the hams. Plus Ronnie has a good 3-4 inches in height on kai. Picture them side by side, lol.
Not close shouldn't even be compared...
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Here is Ronnie in 05' not even at his best and still beats kai in this pose. Look at the glutes/hams tie in and separation in the hams. Plus Ronnie has a good 3-4 inches in height on kai. Picture them side by side, lol.
Kai 5'8, Ronnie 5'10...Btw, kai wins that pose...
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Here is Ronnie in 05' not even at his best and still beats kai in this pose. Look at the glutes/hams tie in and separation in the hams. Plus Ronnie has a good 3-4 inches in height on kai. Picture them side by side, lol.
Never said Kai beats Coleman in any poses However in Certain poses he compares reasonably well, unlike Coleman we Possibly STILL haven't seen Kais best yet
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;D
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ronnie at his 99 best crushes the grapefruit fucker
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ronnie at his 99 best crushes the grapefruit fucker
Of course Coleman looks "better" and Great in that Lighting...in fact More or less EVERYONE that night looked about twice as good as usual, do you think just Maybe Kai in his 2011 NY condition would look alot better as well on that stage with that lighting? again ive never said Kais Better than Coleman but anyway you want to look @ it he compares Reasonably well in Certain Poses in identical lighting and Conditions.
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Great post i see your intellect is improving all the Time Joe well played
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Of course Coleman looks "better" and Great in that Lighting...in fact More or less EVERYONE that night looked about twice as good as usual, do you think just Maybe Kai in his 2011 NY condition would look alot better as well on that stage with that lighting? again ive never said Kais Better than Coleman but anyway you want to look @ it he compares Reasonably well in Certain Poses in identical lighting and Conditions.
no, look at the difference in chest thickness.
all the lighting in the world won't make Kai's chest look like Ronnie's.
its like night and day.
he needs 1000 more hours in the gym and a few more shots of GH 8)
its not close.
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yes kaj is a joke
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Just get on the gear already and stop complaining :D
;D
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his arms were never good? biceps , triceps and forearms? were never good? delusionite oh the irony
And it was explained how Dorian could lose a few poses and still win with a perfect score a concept you're having trouble with
Keep looking for that quote ::) 21" his calves were in no way shape or form comparable to his arms which were over 21" to use your own analogy , just use your eyes and again even if they were 21" they still sucked badly
You cannot debate at all because you don't know how contests are judged and when explained how to dismiss it . you don't wanna debate you just want to state your ignorant opinion as fact
thanks for admitting the obvious , nothing matters except what you like.
Poor bastard, you think these are legitimately judged events. You can say all you want about poses won and lost and points added up but the reality is that it does not matter when these subjective points are given with no merit.
You are very naive to think that bb is a fairly judged proper contest.
What I like is what matters to me, when people on this site talk about the most impressive physique they are sharing their opinion on the matter. Not who was awarded the most "points" by some old schmoe, its sad that you need the judging system to defend Dorian when pictures and visuals clearly defend Ron, along with his 8 schmoe awarded sandows 8)
Real talk, are you Dorians wife?
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ND would make a great judge. He's the only one who knows how "contests are judged" and knows the "criteria". Plus he would get to suck dick all the time.
This. Except on the cock sucking, ND is happily married to Dorian and only needs his cock.
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this is the most impressive picturre of a bodybuilder i have ever seen and i hve seen many many many ,, i dont think you will ebver withness somethign like this again
gh15 approved
The wizard of truth has spoken!!!!
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now Kai looks big ;D
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no, look at the difference in chest thickness.
all the lighting in the world won't make Kai's chest look like Ronnie's.
its like night and day.
he needs 1000 more hours in the gym and a few more shots of GH 8)
its not close.
Lighting plays a huge part dont make out i doesnt, you are showing that pic in that lighting for obvious reasons im talking about NEUTRAL LIGHTING as in Slimmer or Compatible lighting...the difference in the shot you posted and the other one posted of Coleman in 2005 is night and day, for the 3rd time Kai in CERTAIN poses Compares reasonably well to Coleman in Neutral Comparable Lighting.
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Scaled wrong, Different Angle, Coleman closer etc etc etc
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Poor bastard, you think these are legitimately judged events. You can say all you want about poses won and lost and points added up but the reality is that it does not matter when these subjective points are given with no merit.
You are very naive to think that bb is a fairly judged proper contest.
What I like is what matters to me, when people on this site talk about the most impressive physique they are sharing their opinion on the matter. Not who was awarded the most "points" by some old schmoe, its sad that you need the judging system to defend Dorian when pictures and visuals clearly defend Ron, along with his 8 schmoe awarded sandows 8)
Real talk, are you Dorians wife?
i dont agree with you that ronnie was a better bb than dorian (at their very best) but i agree with you totally that dorian's cock never leaves ND's mouth ;D
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ronnie at his 99 best crushes the grapefruit fucker
people always rave about kevins tris... but i always preferred flex wheeler's