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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Melvin Goodrum on January 04, 2008, 11:40:14 AM
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Just bought out this business a few days ago for a very laughable price as the person didn't know how to run the business. Runs on a similar merchant commerce system to mine. I intend to use the design as it looks pretty good but any thoughts as to the rest of the site???
Important Fitness Equipment
www.importantfitnessequi pment.com
P.S. Don't Buy anything from there, there's a lot of bugs I have to clean up.... ::)
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are you related to vince
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welcome back, vince!
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welcome back, vince!
Vince is Gone......
Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .
More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions
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Vince is Gone......
Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .
More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions
Sounds utterly fascinating. I am looking forward to see the emergence of the new and improved...
What did you earn your Doctorate in?
Sandra
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Vince is Gone......
Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .
More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions
::) ::) ::) ::)
"dr".....c'mon now. I hope a real doctor sues your ass for lying about being a doctor....
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Sounds utterly fascinating. I am looking forward to see the emergence of the new and improved...
What did you earn your Doctorate in?
Sandra
My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
* ONDAMED®
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
* Food and environmental sensitivities
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
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Just bought out this business a few days ago for a very laughable price as the person didn't know how to run the business. Runs on a similar merchant commerce system to mine. I intend to use the design as it looks pretty good but any thoughts as to the rest of the site???
Important Fitness Equipment
www.importantfitnessequi pment.com
P.S. Don't Buy anything from there, there's a lot of bugs I have to clean up.... ::)
You bought out this business in a three figure deal?
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Only on Getbig! Well done, Melvin!!
I didn't think you would be able to resist those scams selling degrees online.
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http://www.umsonline.org/index.htm
NOTE: Education at UMS is not a substitute for education at traditional or secular colleges because UMS does not teach typical math, english, or other required courses for credit at other colleges. Your degree and education at UMS is not transferable for credit at secular universities and is strictly religious in nature. For instance, if you desire to pursue a secular degree such as engineering, you cannot use a Bachelor's degree from UMS to substitute for your lower level classes. You cannot attend UMS for the purpose of transferring credits among traditional secular colleges or for the purpose of getting federal grants or loans. UMS is a religious degree granting institution, and the degrees can only be applicable to such a field. UMS is a religious exempt school and does not attain these types of accreditations because it is not preparing students for careers in secular fields
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http://www.umsonline.org/index.htm
NOTE: Education at UMS is not a substitute for education at traditional or secular colleges because UMS does not teach typical math, english, or other required courses for credit at other colleges. Your degree and education at UMS is not transferable for credit at secular universities and is strictly religious in nature. For instance, if you desire to pursue a secular degree such as engineering, you cannot use a Bachelor's degree from UMS to substitute for your lower level classes. You cannot attend UMS for the purpose of transferring credits among traditional secular colleges or for the purpose of getting federal grants or loans. UMS is a religious degree granting institution, and the degrees can only be applicable to such a field. UMS is a religious exempt school and does not attain these types of accreditations because it is not preparing students for careers in secular fields
My degree isn't from the UMS and obviously I'm not working in a secular field so why should I even care?? Besides I've already been to college at Mars Hill and ITT Tech so its not like I'm some schmuck off the streets...... ::)
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You bought out this business in a three figure deal?
Thats including the decimal point.
Vince where did you go to school to become a doctor. I hope it isn't the same one Apenis went to. Do you take insurance? What hospital did you serve your internship at?
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Oh, and that makes your degree accredited?
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Thats including the decimal point.
Vince where did you go to school to become a doctor. I hope it isn't the same one Apenis went to. Do you take insurance? What hospital did you serve your internship at?
My degree is from a Church Monastery. By law, they can issue religion based degrees to anyone they wish. I've also been granted liability insurance by Lloyd's of London for the business so everything is covered.
My degree is Metaphysics not Medicine and I will not be giving out perscriptions or birthing babies. I will however be performing weddings and barmizvahs.
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Oh, and that makes your degree accredited?
No, it allows me to use the Dr credential next to my name as well as Rev if I chose. That's all that matters
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My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
* ONDAMED®
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
* Food and environmental sensitivities
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
lmao...... you don't need to be a doc to do those things.
and 90% that medecin just don't do anything... scams...
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So you're like the Rev. Dr. Martin. Luther. King. Jr. now except for being a detriment to your people?
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My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
* ONDAMED®
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
* Food and environmental sensitivities
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
Good luck melvin. The Holistic approach is very undersold. If you truely know your Chinese medcine, people will gain alot from you
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So you're like the Rev. Dr. Martin. Luther. King. Jr. now except for being a detriment to your people?
My degree isn't from a diploma mill like some of NASA scientist or FBI agents. Its legitimate and there was no funny business or anything in obtaining it. I simply used my past college credits and paid the appropriate donation and did a few other minor things an that was it.
I am not operating on people or doing abortions or writing prescriptions. I am simply filling a void of people who don't have health insurance and cannot afford the latest drug thrown out onto the market or who are tired of being hounded to buy that crap anyway.
I'll let those who come to my clinic be the judge of my new business venture.
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Vince is Gone......
Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .
More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions
LOL. When you were competing you were pretty much out of bodybuilding, too. :D
/i'll miss vince. don't fark up his good name, melvin
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lmao...... you don't need to be a doc to do those things.
and 90% that medecin just don't do anything... scams...
Have you tried what you are critizing, or just another just another red neck idoit who cann't see beyond what is in front of them ???
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Just bought out this business a few days ago for a very laughable price as the person didn't know how to run the business. Runs on a similar merchant commerce system to mine. I intend to use the design as it looks pretty good but any thoughts as to the rest of the site???
Important Fitness Equipment
www.importantfitnessequi pment.com
P.S. Don't Buy anything from there, there's a lot of bugs I have to clean up.... ::)
Translation: Melvin doesn't have any stock yet!!
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Have you tried what you are critizing, or just another just another red neck idoit who cann't see beyond what is in front of them ???
lmao...... wow red neck...... i love it, damn you are good, hey maybe one day you will wake up!!!
now....
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Vince give it a rest, atleast he's having a go. Did everyone critise you when when yu first started building gym equipment or started your first business. Very un Australian mate :'(
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Gotta admire Melvin. Decades ago you could become a minister in the Universal Life Church by sending $10. You could do weddings and funerals. So I sent away for my certificate as a conversation piece. There was no option then for a doctorate.
The good rev Dr Melvin has transcended Vince G by leaps and bounds. There is no limit to what this man can do. What with his online businesses he should soon be a millionaire.
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lmao...... wow red neck...... i love it, damn you are good, hey maybe one day you will wake up!!!
now....
Good one guess you answered the question. Thanks ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Good one guess you answered the question. Thanks ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
i was talking about the red neck part ::)
guess you didn't find the answer yet! but don't worry you'll get there. thanks ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Doctors put down chriopractors all the time but chriopractors actually work for me, give the guy credit for at least trying a new field in his life.
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i was talking about the red neck part ::)
guess you didn't find the answer yet! but don't worry you'll get there. thanks ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Whats there to get your ignorence speaks volumes. :-*
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Doctors put down chriopractors all the time but chriopractors actually work for me, give the guy credit for at least trying a new field in his life.
[/quote spot on. Thumbs up for giving it a go. Not all types of medicine suit everyone, no need to piss all over something just because you don't agree with it, and 9 times out of ten the ones doing the pissng have never even tried it.
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My degree isn't from a diploma mill like some of NASA scientist or FBI agents. Its legitimate and there was no funny business or anything in obtaining it. I simply used my past college credits and paid the appropriate donation and did a few other minor things an that was it.
Translation: I filled in a form and paid the fee and was given the doctorate. This is a prepaid degree!
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Doctors put down chriopractors all the time but chriopractors actually work for me, give the guy credit for at least trying a new field in his life.
[/quote spot on. Thumbs up for giving it a go. Not all types of medicine suit everyone, no need to piss all over something just because you don't agree with it, and 9 times out of ten the ones doing the pissng have never even tried it.
exactly,,some of that stuff sounds legit and I would use it,,they offer massage,acupuncture, etc,,those are relaxing ways to heal the body without relying on drugs and are actually enjoyable if I am going to have medical work done.
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Whats there to get your ignorence speaks volumes. :-*
damn, thats it .... i feel all weird now, i'm gonna need a nice little Food and environmental sensitivities therapy...... i'll be back in no time.
thank you.
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damn, thats it .... i feel all weird now, i'm gonna need a nice little Food and environmental sensitivities therapy...... i'll be back in no time.
thank you.
Try green tea with a couple of slices of lemon and some deep breathing to start, then find acouple of nice chinese girls to give you an oil massage with a little extra at the end ( this meaning chinese foot massage).
no hard feelings beat master just taking the piss cheers
Mick
ps try the above you will be pleasantly surprised
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Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
Sounds like a going concern. Have you set up the office yet? Just wondering how much space you get for $300/month?
What college are you attending to study for your other doctorate?
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now this i agree with you ......
......then find acouple of nice chinese girls to give you an oil massage with a little extra at the end ( this meaning chinese foot massage).
no hard feelings beat master just taking the piss .... hey i never take this seriously, its the net man!!!
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Metaphysics used to be an important part of philosophy dealing with the question asking what reality is. Today that word has another meaning and refers to things outside science. We know which area Melvin would be attracted to.
I am rather disappointed that Melvin continues to pursue shortcuts instead of doing the hard yards and actually acquiring a proper degree so that he can earn a living and gain some respect. He has all manner of internet businesses going but I doubt many would subcribe to what surely appear to be scams.
Have a look here at the popular meaning of metaphysics today:
http://www.websyte.com/alan/metamul.htm
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now this i agree with you ......
Cheers beat, if you ever come to China lok me up and I'll point you in the direction of some very pleasing girls ;D 8) ;D
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Metaphysics used to be an important part of philosophy dealing with the question asking what reality is. Today that word has another meaning and refers to things outside science. We know which area Melvin would be attracted to.
I am rather disappointed that Melvin continues to pursue shortcuts instead of doing the hard yards and actually acquiring a proper degree so that he can earn a living and gain some respect. He has all manner of internet businesses going but I doubt many would subcribe to what surely appear to be scams.
Have a look here at the popular meaning of metaphysics today:
http://www.websyte.com/alan/metamul.htm
First off, you have no business to criticize me for not doing hard work. I've went to college full time on-campus for 2 years while working and for 4 years during the summers in high school along with 3 years of distance studies at accredited universities. The fact that I still owe Sallie Mae over $10,000 in tuition is proof enough as I've paid off $20,000 of it. Quite frankly, its too expensive nowadays for a formal education so I took advantage of more affordable solution.
The whole point of going to college is to learn, something most people have forgotten about. And that's what led me to studying Metaphysics and then naturopathy and alternative medicine. Too many people are getting poor treatment, unsafe medicine thrown at them and their kids, and lousy service and even worse, the majority of American's cannot even afford that lousy treatment.
However most people are scared of natural medicine because its usually done by pot smoking hippies and UFO seeing weirdos in unclean and unsafe conditions.
My clinic is designed to bring Chinese And Alternative Medicine into the 21st century. We won't prescribe medicine or do surgery as I'm not a conventional medical doctor but instead teach and show people how to be healthier and take care of themselves. I've enlisted the help of a Chinese Grandmaster and a reflexologist to help assist in the business.
Unlike other facilities, the office will be clean just like a doctors facility and everyone will wear appropriate medical attire. No tree-hugging robes or folks wearing peace signs. Only the best equipment and line of nutritional supplements will be use.
Fact is most people would be in much better health if they simply exercised, cleanse their body through detox, and taking the right vitamins and supplements .
The Chinese are living to be over 100 years old without any modern day medicine and are not dropping dead from heart attacks and etc. Its time that people took a different approach to living.
BTW... although I'm not running some hospital, a number of services we will be offering will actually be covered under most health insurance including Medicaid..... ::)
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Your lease is only 300 a month? How many sq feet is the place?
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Your lease is only 300 a month? How many sq feet is the place?
1000 sq feet. The office will be in Cherokee, NC.
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1000 sq feet. The office will be in Cherokee, NC.
Wow, that is crazy cheap. I pay your years rent in less than 2 months for just under 1400 sq feet for my business. Lucky bastard.
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Wow, that is crazy cheap. I pay your years rent in less than 2 months for just under 1400 sq feet for my business. Lucky bastard.
Yep... ;D Its all about location. It will be very tough still but my internet sales from Caliber Fitness will more than cover the rent so its not a factor. The equipment will be paid in full so there won't be any issues but my entire overhead expenses for everything is going to be under $20,000 and I expect yearly revenue to be close to 500,000 a year based on the Medicare customers, supplements, and treatments provided. The bank was licking its chops at writing me out a loan once I showed the business proposal..... ;D
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Vince is Gone......
Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .
More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions
STFU bitch.
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STFU bitch.
19999 posts!! OMG legendary moment :D
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Anybody else see some prison time for malpractice or health insurance fraud?
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Melvin, I am worried about your patients. How on earth do you feel qualified to treat people with real illnesses, etc.? The fact that many people cannot afford medical treatment doesn't mean that just anyone with a metaphysical degree can provide alternative care.
The guy who showed up in "Muntzer-like" condition at the Olympia vs Billy Guns is the same dude with enough nerve to open a clinic with no qualifications whatever. I don't think you have thought this one through. Have you done any marketing research to see if people will pay for your services? What do you charge for treatments and consultations? Which medical insurance companies support your clinic?
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Melvin, I am worried about your patients. How on earth do you feel qualified to treat people with real illnesses, etc.? The fact that many people cannot afford medical treatment doesn't mean that just anyone with a metaphysical degree can provide alternative care.
The guy who showed up in "Muntzer-like" condition at the Olympia vs Billy Guns is the same dude with enough nerve to open a clinic with no qualifications whatever. I don't think you have thought this one through. Have you done any marketing research to see if people will pay for your services? What do you charge for treatments and consultations? Which medical insurance companies support your clinic?
Did I at one time ever say I was going to be treating people for illnesses? Seriously Vince, you you even read any of my post or do you simply look for my name. The fact is I'm a lot more educated than you and most people on these boards.
And I just said that most insurance companies including Medicare and Medicaid will cover a number of our services provided. It will not cover everything. As far as market research is concerned, is that any of your concern to begin with???
I don't tell you how to run your gym so please don't tell me how to run my business. There's no garrantee of success in any business but this one will succeed. Its where the market is going and I've always wanted to do it.
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Did I at one time ever say I was going to be treating people for illnesses? Seriously Vince, you you even read any of my post or do you simply look for my name. The fact is I'm a lot more educated than you and most people on these boards.
And I just said that most insurance companies including Medicare and Medicaid will cover a number of our services provided. It will not cover everything. As far as market research is concerned, is that any of your concern to begin with???
I don't tell you how to run your gym so please don't tell me how to run my business. There's no garrantee of success in any business but this one will succeed. Its where the market is going and I've always wanted to do it.
bitch please. ::)
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Melvin, you claim to be able to treat people in your clinic using ancient Chinese methods, etc. How on earth you can take the money from poor, ignorant folk is disturbing. Surely there is a better way to use your vast education and experience?
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Melvin wrote: "As far as market research is concerned, is that any of your concern to begin with???"
Translation: Melvin has done NO market research.
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You know, folks, I have to congratulate Melvin Goodrum. It wasn't that long ago that people castigated Vince G CSN MFT, and almost tarred and feathered him on a regular basis. So, Melvin being a sensitive dude, the continual bagging of him took its toll and he decided to reinvent himself and stop playing the clown on Getbig. We all wondered if this task would be something beyond the resources of hapless Melvin. No one was going to drive this formidable character from this forum.
Well, this enterprising businessman has returned with a PhD in metaphysical science! While most of us were enjoying the Christmas break our ingenious hero was doing a crash course online and returned as both a reverend and doctor. Being the noble kind of soul, he is now devoting his time and resources to establish a clinic to help people fed up with traditional medicine. Most of us would need at least 8 years to obtain a PhD but Melvin is no ordinary bloke. He did the course in a weekend on the internet. There was a small donation required before he received that coveted degree but that was but small change to the Goodrum business machine.
I truly wonder what Melvin is thinking next? Maybe he did injure himself when he slipped on a soda bottle going up the stairs at that prepaid legal convention?!
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Melvin, you claim to be able to treat people in your clinic using ancient Chinese methods, etc. How on earth you can take the money from poor, ignorant folk is disturbing. Surely there is a better way to use your vast education and experience?
I'm not using ancient Chinese method but new Chinese methods such as electro-acupuncture for example.
Electro-acupuncture eliminates the common fear of needles and infections from people by using a theraputic laser instead. I've seen the treatments being performed and its quite fascinating and people are very pleased with the results
I would suggest that you study alternative medicine before criticizing it. I'd rather listen to Frank Zane than you as far as that's concerned.
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Melvin said: "The fact is I'm a lot more educated than you and most people on these boards."
I have to agree because Melvin investigated me and discovered that I was only a humble plumber working in New Zealand.
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Melvin, come clean with the folk here. What studies have you done in alternative medicine and modern Chinese treatments? Even those areas require years and years of study and experience before one can practice in them. What qualifications have you got in any alternative medicine?
Are you locating your clinic in the Cherokee Indian reservation? Is that why the rent is so cheap?
http://www.cherokeesmokies.com/business_dir.asp
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Melvin, come clean with the folk here. What studies have you done in alternative medicine and modern Chinese treatments? Even those areas require years and years of study and experience before one can practice in them. What qualifications have you got in any alternative medicine?
Are you locating your clinic in the Cherokee Indian reservation? Is that why the rent is so cheap?
http://www.cherokeesmokies.com/business_dir.asp
There are many different areas in naturopathy. My studies in alternative medicine is homeopathic medicine, aromatherapy, and light therapy. I have no formal training in Chinese medicine which is why I stated earlier that my clinic will have a Chinese Grandmaster and a reflexologist working as well. I cannot run this whole operation by itself. I will also have secretary who will greet customers, set appointments, and make herbal tea as well.
Its will be in Cherokee, NC and yes that's why its so cheap.
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Was this photo taken in Cherokee?
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Anybody else see some prison time for malpractice or health insurance fraud?
Unless he has someone who he can bill under its unlikely he can bill insurances
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Can't you just be like DA and suck dick for your cash?
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My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
* ONDAMED®
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
* Food and environmental sensitivities
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
You better check on your expenses. A vibration trainer cost $10,000 alone. My friend owns EFI (a division of Total Gym) and that Power Trainer is close to $8,000 normal cost. I had one at my booth at the Olympia he gave us to use. Rent is $300? This place must be barely 500 sq. ft. if that in size. How the hell can you run a business in such a small area. And 5 people can't work in that space. Are you paying cash outright for the equipment or leasing. A 3 year lease on that equipment alone will be close to $650 a month depending on your rate. The EMS machine can also run you some good money if you get a decent one. Vince go over your numbers again. Also, a suggestion don't use the Dr. prefix. Without malpractice insurance you would be dead soon.
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Monster gimmic... did anyone else notice after he changed his screen name his grammer greatly improved.
along with using big words
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You are as much of a disgrace to business, and health and medicine as you are to bodybuilding.
What you are attempting to operate is nothing more than an insurance scam at best. People place trust and respect in the prefix 'Dr' and you are making a mockery of it.
Your attempt to use shortcuts in this industry will be as successful as your attempts to use shortcuts in the bodybuilding industry. Your physique speaks loudly for how that venture went!
I doubt this venture will get off the ground. I sincerely hope it doesn't. The manner in which you speak of this business is very childlike and remarkably immature for a grown man and this concerns me greatly for the well being of your patients.
When a patient asks about your 'Dr' prefix, how will you answer this question?
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Yep... ;D Its all about location. It will be very tough still but my internet sales from Caliber Fitness will more than cover the rent so its not a factor. The equipment will be paid in full so there won't be any issues but my entire overhead expenses for everything is going to be under $20,000 and I expect yearly revenue to be close to 500,000 a year based on the Medicare customers, supplements, and treatments provided. The bank was licking its chops at writing me out a loan once I showed the business proposal..... ;D
No way in the world. Either that or you are bullshitting. How can you accept Medicare patients. They just can't come in and give you a card and you get paid. You have a 1,000 sq. ft for just $300. The place must be a fucking dump. How much are you putting into renovations. To do have that shit you say you are offering you will need separate offices with sinks and drains with some of them. You can't just provide these services and not provide the proper atmosphere. The population of this place is under 25,000 with a high majority of it being native american. I don't see any of these people using your services you are providing. Is there a place like it there now. What did you provide the bank in terms of comps. What about utility costs per month, insurance, lease payments, payroll, telephone, cable, water and loan payment.
You are expecting $500,000 a year in gross sales. that is over $10,000 a week being open 7 days a week. The only way you could do that out of 1,000 sq. ft. is provide medical services where you are charging $100+ a visit. YOU ARE NOT A MEDICAL doctor. You are providing services that you won't be able to charge more than $20 to $30 a visit. Not in that area with such a low economy. The average person make less than $32,000 a year there. Thats not even $700 a week before taxes. You honestly think these people will pay you money. Plus most of the services you are providing aren't even covered by Medicare. How can you qualify to be a facility that provides rehab when you come up short in equipment and services provided.
Sorry Vince you are full of shit. I can't see any bank giving you a business loan. Something ain't right. Give me more details. If it is true the you are truly delusional cause no way a business like that would survive in that location unless you are the only employee and you go so bare-boned it just wouldn't be worth going to. Tell us more
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Vince is Gone......
Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .
More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You better check on your expenses. A vibration trainer cost $10,000 alone. My friend owns EFI (a division of Total Gym) and that Power Trainer is close to $8,000 normal cost. I had one at my booth at the Olympia he gave us to use. Rent is $300? This place must be barely 500 sq. ft. if that in size. How the hell can you run a business in such a small area. And 5 people can't work in that space. Are you paying cash outright for the equipment or leasing. A 3 year lease on that equipment alone will be close to $650 a month depending on your rate. The EMS machine can also run you some good money if you get a decent one. Vince go over your numbers again. Also, a suggestion don't use the Dr. prefix. Without malpractice insurance you would be dead soon.
The vibration trainer I'll be getting is actually 16,000 plus 500 for the oxygen tank attachmentand the PowerTower rehab package I will have is $9,000 however I sell the Turbosonics for Maxim Labs and I'm good friends with EFI since I used to sell and sponsor their Total Gym 1100 machines back in the mid 90's back in the day. We worked out an unsecure arrangement to where the machines will be greatly discounted in return of promotional advertising and sales of both products for the business. However that can change of course but even if it did I'm still am going to be well under $50,000 and my requested loan will be about 75,000 which I will need for advertising, media relations, web design, and inventory of King-Bio Pharmacuticals in stock.
I've only used $20,000 as a skeleton number for the bare essentials but naturally the expenses always go up in a venture such as this because I haven't looked at zoning, building inspector, and the number one killer...advertising. Office space is 1000 sq ft and the facility used to house another local doctor but of course that can change as well. Space in the region between Cherokee and Waynesville is abundant thanks to foreclosures but again I may decide on more space or two adjacent spaces because I'll need a space for the inventory of supplements and homeopathic medicine.
Liability Insurance is already covered by Lloyd's but I don't need malpractice insurance since there will not be any conventional medical treatment being done or filling out prescriptions. It's classified as a wellness center. I may actually recruit a medical doctor who specializes in anti-aging treatment and that would actually quadtriple the revenue it could bring in but it would require more space.
Keith, you know the wellness and anti-aging clinics are popular now and no bank is going to have a problem with a loan. Once the clinic is opened, it will pay itself off in less than a year.
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I may actually recruit a medical doctor who specializes in anti-aging treatment and that would actually quadtriple the revenue it could bring in but it would require more space.
A little FYI on that.....unless he/she will have some major compensation from you, I would doubt you will get an MD to do this. I didnt say impossible, but bringing an MD on is not as easy as you think. Been down that road already. Your best best is to go with a DC because they will be cheaper and easoer to deal with.
Bythe way vince/melvin.....what codes do you think you will be using for some of that stuff if you really believe it is covvered by insurances? The e-stim, massage, and Infra-red pretty much fall into some of the 97 cpt codes. But I would like you to show medical necessity for it. You think thats easy? I would suggest you read up on Aetna's experimental and trial therapy letters on what is, and what is not covered.
As far as stim and the IR...you would have been better off getting yourself some low level cold lasers.
But I will bet you think you have allo the answers here and you will tell me you have it all figured out.....
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A little FYI on that.....unless he/she will have some major compensation from you, I would doubt you will get an MD to do this. I didnt say impossible, but bringing an MD on is not as easy as you think. Been down that road already. Your best best is to go with a DC because they will be cheaper and easoer to deal with.
Bythe way vince/melvin.....what codes do you think you will be using for some of that stuff if you really believe it is covvered by insurances? The e-stim, massage, and Infra-red pretty much fall into some of the 97 cpt codes. But I would like you to show medical necessity for it. You think thats easy? I would suggest you read up on Aetna's experimental and trial therapy letters on what is, and what is not covered.
As far as stim and the IR...you would have been better off getting yourself some low level cold lasers.
But I will bet you think you have allo the answers here and you will tell me you have it all figured out.....
The electro-stimulators and vibration therapy will be billed under the rehab codes and won't be an issue as I will have the proper certifications for it soon and most will be referrals from hospitals anyway. The accupuncture and massage will not be covered. Some people bill the anaylsis machines under biofeedback codes but I won't be doing that as it isn't right.
A chiropractor would make things easier but a medical doctor would have the advantage of legally prescribing HRT and TRT therapy to patients. It would be harder but a number of M.D's are tired of paying out the ass for malpractice insurance and long hours. The opportunity of 3-5 days of work with weekends off and higher pay would be very attractive.
It will still take at least a year before everything is complete so nothing is in complete stone. There's a lot of planning and work into this for all parties to be happy.
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Melvin, there are many shopping cart systems out there..what payment gateway are they using?
1. Why do I need to register to buy something..that is so old school
2. Support Google checkout
3. Ditch the currency selector, more trouble than it is worth
4. Add full text search ability at the top of the page..don't relegate it to "advance search"
5. The product layout sucks, also add sorting, I like to sort by price
6. Enlarge image doesn't work on the product detail page doesn't work
7. Change paging structor and allow to the user to specify how many items per page to showI could go on and on
I could go on and on..
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The electro-stimulators and vibration therapy will be billed under the rehab codes and won't be an issue as I will have the proper certifications for it soon and most will be referrals from hospitals anyway. The accupuncture and massage will not be covered. Some people bill the anaylsis machines under biofeedback codes but I won't be doing that as it isn't right.
A chiropractor would make things easier but a medical doctor would have the advantage of legally prescribing HRT and TRT therapy to patients. It would be harder but a number of M.D's are tired of paying out the ass for malpractice insurance and long hours. The opportunity of 3-5 days of work with weekends off and higher pay would be very attractive.
It will still take at least a year before everything is complete so nothing is in complete stone. There's a lot of planning and work into this for all parties to be happy.
1) What certifications are you getting that allow you to bill an insurance company? I dont think your religious degree will allow you to get an NPI number.
2) Most (if not all) vibration machines are being billed using the 97110 code. This is incorrect usage and can result in SERIOUS trouble for anyone doing so. Utilizing the NMR code 97112 is also INCORRECT as that code is deemed for usage POST STROKE. The CPT Guide book is very explicit on this (along with the AMA CPT follow-up newsletters). Those two are the only rehab codes allowable for rehap (not counting the therapeutic activities code, but you will need to establish the functionality purpose for doing so). Again, I would like to see you give me an example of a medical necessity explanation for it. In addition to all of this, I would HOPE that you will have some sort of daily note software that you will be using. You bill insurance..guess what...you will need it. Think its as easy as puttin ginformation down on a CMS-1500 form? Guess again. This is what I do for a living. Practice management is not quite the easiest thing in the world.
3) Again, I would like to see what MD will come in NO SALARY and do what you want him/her to do. There has to be some sort of upside (and trust me, it will be a MAJOR upside). I was at a clinic that utilized an MD for exams and he got paid what the combined salary of what three of our docs were. He was also there only about 1/2 the hours we were.
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This is going to be quite some journey for young Melvin. He had trouble applying his CSN MFT to prepare himself for physique competition. We all know his success in that endeavour.
Now, imagine the complexity involved in opening and operating a wellness clinic? Melvin will have to pray that no Getbigger ever visits that operation. In addition, he will hope pray that no client surfs the internet. Imagine if any client saw Melvin here at Getbig! I am sure that a photo of Dr Goodrum in a uniform would be cherished on Getbig and the paparazzi might visit his wellness center. He would soon require an unlisted telephone number!
I doubt Melvin has thought this business venture through. The very fact he is announcing his plan here at Getbig shows a lack of common sense. If he has the same success as he had with Caliber Fitness then he will never be able to pay those loans off. If he is locating in an area where there are a lot of foreclosures and vacant premises then he might be in a run down or working class area and those poor people won't use his clinic or see the merit in doing so. When I took over gyms in the past the first things I discarded were the vibrators and rollers. The women loved them but they don't do what everyone claimed they did. We can only imagine the scams operating as 'treatments' in those wellness centers.
I am totally sceptical that any qualified doctor would work for Melvin Goodrum. Doctors have to study long and hard and I doubt they would respect an ignorant person charlatan with a phony PhD. Melvin is dreaming again and this time the end result might be a total disaster.
I have never seen a bank manager happy to lend money. Well, if you have security like a property then it is no trouble. If you live in a trailer on a reservation I doubt you could borrow $1000!
We should all light candles for Melvin. He keeps coming up with schemes that have no way of succeeding. I give him full marks for effort but he fails miserably in execution.
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This town has less than 25,000 people in it. The casino is a major attraction and is really almost the only reason the town gets any visitors. I highly doubt any of these visitors would come to town to solely use Goodrum's services. I am not saying this is a bad idea but I do think it is in a wrong area that really can't support the numbers he is dreaming of. I guess we'll see. Keep us up to date Vince, it will make coming here more fun.
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My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
* ONDAMED®
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
* Food and environmental sensitivities
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
Mail order doctorate - you would be listed in UMPI/Proquest database if you had really graduated from an recognized university.
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Clearly Vince's new venture has been proven to be futile. I once worked as a sales rep in the B2B nutriceutical business, dealing with Chiropractors, Naturopaths, LMT, acupuncturists, osteopaths, and other so-called integrative health specialists.
And I can tell that nearly 50-60 % of the people are slightly off in the head and they deal with stange patients, most of whom are deranged, uneducated, poor, and foreign.
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What amazes me is why Melvin thinks he can reinvent himself on the internet. He doesn't realize that he is at his stellar best when he is fair dinkum and serious. Why he chose Getbig to announce his new enterprise is a mystery. I wonder if Melvin could be good enough to scan his
doctorate degree diploma document so we can see what he obtained. I would be interested to know what other doctorate he is pursuing on line. There are some universities that offer doctorates to some who must qualify by writing a thesis. Surely an intelligent, original, and significant thesis is beyond our mate Melvin!
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What amazes me is why Melvin thinks he can reinvent himself on the internet. He doesn't realize that he is at his stellar best when he is fair dinkum and serious. Why he chose Getbig to announce his new enterprise is a mystery. I wonder if Melvin could be good enough to scan his doctorate degree diploma document so we can see what he obtained. I would be interested to know what other doctorate he is pursuing on line. There are some universities that offer doctorates to some who must qualify by writing a thesis. Surely an intelligent, original, and significant thesis is beyond our mate Melvin!
he still has to wipe all the Cracker Jack residue off his "diploma" so we can read what's on it.
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......... I wonder if Melvin could be good enough to scan his doctorate degree diploma document so we can see what he obtained. I would be interested to know what other doctorate he is pursuing on line.................
good idea, bring it vince goodbum!
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I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet. There are a few things that need to be made clear
1. My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years. In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.
2. This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen
3. I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled
4. Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available.
5. The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost.
It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen. Isn't that the American Dream???
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I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet. There are a few things that need to be made clear
1. My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years. In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.
2. This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen
3. I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled
4. Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available.
5. The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost.
It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen. Isn't that the American Dream???
Go get 'em Vince, don't let these negative Nancies hold you down!!
That's my job ;D
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I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet. There are a few things that need to be made clear
1. My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years. In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.
2. This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen
3. I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled
4. Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available.
5. The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost.
It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen. Isn't that the American Dream???
I am trying to "keep it real" for you Melvin. Again, you can do this....it has potential. I am just trying to let you about some of the "been there, done that" type of things. Like the vibration machine...so many of the sales people will say "sure you can bill it under XXXXX. We have a lot of docs that do so and are getting reimbursed very well".
I see you couldnt sell your Therapy trainer on eBay for $14K.
(http://www.turbosonicusa.com/images/machine_wd.gif)
Again, it WONT be reimbursed by insurance companies. You should read up on Aetna's Clinical Policy Bulletin. United Health Care has a similar policy. Oh, and FYI....Medicare does NOT reimburse for active therapy. Medicare's Guide for Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation allows passive care for only two to four weeks maximum, after which an active care program is required. There recently was an experiment in Illinois that allowed for active therapy to be reimbursed. Do you have your medicare number? Do you know what the penalty is for billing incorrectly with medicare? Hint: $25,000 PER INCIDENT. Meaning....you bill four dates of service wrong....thats $100K coming out of your pocket.
I am curious how it is that you plan on billing insurance companies? Seriously...how do you think you will bill? How will you keep notes? Have you ever had any classes or education on documentation? Are you aware that by 2010 you will be REQUIRED to be paperless in an office?
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I am trying to "keep it real" for you Melvin. Again, you can do this....it has potential. I am just trying to let you about some of the "been there, done that" type of things. Like the vibration machine...so many of the sales people will say "sure you can bill it under XXXXX. We have a lot of docs that do so and are getting reimbursed very well".
I see you couldnt sell your Therapy trainer on eBay for $14K.
(http://www.turbosonicusa.com/images/machine_wd.gif)
Again, it WONT be reimbursed by insurance companies. You should read up on Aetna's Clinical Policy Bulletin. United Health Care has a similar policy. Oh, and FYI....Medicare does NOT reimburse for active therapy. Medicare's Guide for Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation allows passive care for only two to four weeks maximum, after which an active care program is required. There recently was an experiment in Illinois that allowed for active therapy to be reimbursed. Do you have your medicare number? Do you know what the penalty is for billing incorrectly with medicare? Hint: $25,000 PER INCIDENT. Meaning....you bill four dates of service wrong....thats $100K coming out of your pocket.
I am curious how it is that you plan on billing insurance companies? Seriously...how do you think you will bill? How will you keep notes? Have you ever had any classes or education on documentation? Are you aware that by 2010 you will be REQUIRED to be paperless in an office?
You're talking way over his head, my friend
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My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
* ONDAMED®
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
* Food and environmental sensitivities
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
whats funny is that naturopathic doctors actually go through a 4 year medical degree with at least 3 years prior post graduate education and pay over 100 000 dollars to learn medical science and alternative and your shitting on both types of medicine by having no education whatsoever in either field.
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Is it true that Vince G makes three figures a year with his combined business efforts?
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You're talking way over his head, my friend
Thats exactly what I was thinking. I just would love to see his Business Plan. And who did the projections. This town down even have the population to support his business figures he has posted. I think he thinks he can just have everybody in town come in for free and then bill the insurance companies. The funny thing is how does a bank give a loan out to someone and a business like this when all the questions we ask he can't answer. I would love to know where this bank is.
whats funny is that naturopathic doctors actually go through a 4 year medical degree with at least 3 years prior post graduate education and pay over 100 000 dollars to learn medical science and alternative and your shitting on both types of medicine by having no education whatsoever in either field.
Vince receives all his education online. This way he can cheat and look up the answers. He don't need no frickin education to be doctor. That is the Goodrum way.
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Dr Melvin Goodrum isn't fooling anyone here at Getbig. I wonder who would be impressed with the good Doctor in a white uniform? The guy is devoid of shame because who else here would send away for a PhD let alone any degree? Some guys might do that for a lark but only Melvin would be fair dinkum about it and boast about being more educated than most people here on Getbig. Armed with that degree he plans to set up a wellness clinic knowing full well most of those treatments are rubbish. He doesn't locate where sensible entrepreneurs would but on a reservation surrounded by foreclosed premises! The guy can't resist a bargain and thinks he will do better when he posts the sign, "Under new management".
The one smart thing Melvin can do is marry a Cherokee First Nation woman and live on the reserve. He won't have to pay many taxes there. No doubt he has already figured this out!
Good thing he isn't some schmuck off the street!
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Melvin have you ever thought of just forgetting about 9 to 5 work and dedicating yourself to the bodybuilding lifestyle?
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I am trying to "keep it real" for you Melvin. Again, you can do this....it has potential. I am just trying to let you about some of the "been there, done that" type of things. Like the vibration machine...so many of the sales people will say "sure you can bill it under XXXXX. We have a lot of docs that do so and are getting reimbursed very well".
I see you couldnt sell your Therapy trainer on eBay for $14K.
(http://www.turbosonicusa.com/images/machine_wd.gif)
Again, it WONT be reimbursed by insurance companies. You should read up on Aetna's Clinical Policy Bulletin. United Health Care has a similar policy. Oh, and FYI....Medicare does NOT reimburse for active therapy. Medicare's Guide for Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation allows passive care for only two to four weeks maximum, after which an active care program is required. There recently was an experiment in Illinois that allowed for active therapy to be reimbursed. Do you have your medicare number? Do you know what the penalty is for billing incorrectly with medicare? Hint: $25,000 PER INCIDENT. Meaning....you bill four dates of service wrong....thats $100K coming out of your pocket.
I am curious how it is that you plan on billing insurance companies? Seriously...how do you think you will bill? How will you keep notes? Have you ever had any classes or education on documentation? Are you aware that by 2010 you will be REQUIRED to be paperless in an office?
I took those ads down from Ebay because I'm changing the format of sales to OScommerce and AuctionBlox to manage both website sales and Ebay sales.
Fact is that I've already checked with the insurance companies directly about the billing codes and I've already had that cleared with them as to what can be billed and overall the determination will be based on the client essentially. If someone comes off the streets for vibration therapy, then he'd be billed out of pocket for the sessions which would be minimal anyway as the machines don't require no more than turning them on and setting the display level. However if they are referred to me for rehab, then thats completely different.
Overall, its my problem to worry about. If it isn't reimbursed, then the client is billed for it directly. The services that will be offered will be affordable anyway because a vibration therapy session is going to be priced around $30.00.
And I won't worry about the paperless office requirement until 2009 but digital signature tablets are not going to be expensive
Like I said, I may simply bring in a medical doctor or chiropractor into the fold to make things much easier or I may just work out a smaller business model.
Life of an entrepenuer...... ;D
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Sounds like you are having second thoughts about the whole operation. Once you bring a proper doctor on board you will lose control of your business. Maybe in this case that would be a blessing.
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whats funny is that naturopathic doctors actually go through a 4 year medical degree with at least 3 years prior post graduate education and pay over 100 000 dollars to learn medical science and alternative and your shitting on both types of medicine by having no education whatsoever in either field.
That only applies to medical doctors who wish to incorporate naturapathy into their conventional practice..... ::).
I am a naturopathic practitioner which means I only use naturpathic methods and I do not use conventional medicine or do surgeries or give prescriptions. There are courses that still have to be done and I've already done them.
And if someone paid $100,000 for courses in naturapathy, then they aren't too bright. There's no true governing body or accredition for it because its not even recognized in the United States.
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I cannot see why everyone is so adament about this business venture not working when I have not even opened the doors yet. There are a few things that need to be made clear
1. My degree isn't from a diploma mill or from some country out in the middle of nowhere, it is from a combination of doing distance learning courses for 3 years and my previous credits from being a full time student at college for many years. In addition, I'm still studying and will actually have another doctorate by the end of the year.
2. This business is only mine by name as the principal owner however there are 2 other health professionals that have agreed to work with me in making it happen
3. I've already explained that a office assistment will be hired for the task of billing to insurance companies but it will be handled
4. Alternative medicine isn't quackery, its what people have been asking for a long time to have available.
5. The revenue potential is far beyond the start-up cost.
It may not be a business you would agree on, but I'm willing to roll the dice and make this happen. Isn't that the American Dream???
I gave you some points on why that site is terrible but you never responded to
good luck
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Sounds like you are having second thoughts about the whole operation. Once you bring a proper doctor on board you will lose control of your business. Maybe in this case that would be a blessing.
I'm only 1/3 of the entire business and the majority owner as it will be my funds that will primarily start the business. I still have 2 other partners that are going in with me on this venture and they both have equal say in it as well.
Honestly, Vince, I wonder how much time you spend obsessing about me. You're the only person who called my hotel room and tried to talk to me like some groupie or something which was kind of pathetic in my opinion.
The only other thing you talk about other than me is Arnold cheating you and etc.
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I gave you some points on why that site is terrible but you never responded to
good luck
Its just a website, as long as it processes customer's orders, its fine with me.
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Melvin, if you remember I asked if you needed any money when I called you at the hotel. You posted how you had coupons and vouchers for meals so I wondered how you were managing. You said you didn't need any help and were too busy to chat on the phone.
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Its just a website, as long as it processes customer's orders, its fine with me.
true, but a website is a tool...a means to an end..if that process is tedious and viewed as a task then most users will find an easier tool.
at the very least support Google checkout, also the site is visually unappealing
also there are other payment gateways that charge nominal fees thus increasing your profit.
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Melvin, if you remember I asked if you needed any money when I called you at the hotel. You posted how you had coupons and vouchers for meals so I wondered how you were managing. You said you didn't need any help and were too busy to chat on the phone.
and older man calling a younger man at a hotel with an offer of money? also wanting to "chat on the phone"
lol...umm..in some circles that is not viewed as a good thing.
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true, but a website is a tool...a means to an end..if that process is tedious and viewed as a task then most users will find an easier tool.
at the very least support Google checkout, also the site is visually unappealing
also there are other payment gateways that charge nominal fees thus increasing your profit.
I have a merchant account with AuthorizeNet. I don't have time to deal with all the fraud that happens with Paypal and Google and its a waste of time to have multiple payment gateways when you only need one which makes paperwork much easier.
The visual appearance isn't going to win any web design awards but it gets the job done.
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and older man calling a younger man at a hotel with an offer of money? also wanting to "chat on the phone"
lol...umm..in some circles that is not viewed as a good thing.
He's also always offering me trips to his gym too for "training".... :-X
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I took those ads down from Ebay because I'm changing the format of sales to OScommerce and AuctionBlox to manage both website sales and Ebay sales.
Fact is that I've already checked with the insurance companies directly about the billing codes and I've already had that cleared with them as to what can be billed and overall the determination will be based on the client essentially. If someone comes off the streets for vibration therapy, then he'd be billed out of pocket for the sessions which would be minimal anyway as the machines don't require no more than turning them on and setting the display level. However if they are referred to me for rehab, then thats completely different.
Overall, its my problem to worry about. If it isn't reimbursed, then the client is billed for it directly. The services that will be offered will be affordable anyway because a vibration therapy session is going to be priced around $30.00.
And I won't worry about the paperless office requirement until 2009 but digital signature tablets are not going to be expensive
Like I said, I may simply bring in a medical doctor or chiropractor into the fold to make things much easier or I may just work out a smaller business model.
Life of an entrepenuer...... ;D
entrepreneur u fucking turd.
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entrepreneur u fucking turd.
There are hundreds of things Melvin says that can be criticised, I don't get why you have to for a spelling owning ::)
the problem with your rethoric daddy, as usual, is that u assume everyone has the same physique than you.
but people are genetically totaly different from you and you can't just say "this will work for everyone".
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Honestly, Vince, I wonder how much time you spend obsessing about me. You're the only person who called my hotel room and tried to talk to me like some groupie or something which was kind of pathetic in my opinion.
I think it probably has something to do with the fact that you look like shit and made fun of him in the early days of him being here (weren't you the one calling him "old salt" ?).
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Who in their right mind would refer any of their PATIENTS to this guy? you might have your foot in the door, but thats as far as you'll get because based on your bullshitting around everything here, you have been as successful as the % of small businesses that fail each year, just don't hurt anyone Vince!
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That only applies to medical doctors who wish to incorporate naturapathy into their conventional practice..... ::).
I am a naturopathic practitioner which means I only use naturpathic methods and I do not use conventional medicine or do surgeries or give prescriptions. There are courses that still have to be done and I've already done them.
And if someone paid $100,000 for courses in naturapathy, then they aren't too bright. There's no true governing body or accredition for it because its not even recognized in the United States.
no you are not moron im attending a naturopathic medical school i have a neuroscience degree have go to class 50 hours a week for 4 more years, making my education a total o 9 years. there are 5 schools right now that are accredited and bestow the title naturopathic doctor., the main one in the states is bastyr college. you are not a naturopathic doctor unless you have done at least 7 years worth of school and have pre med. i do anatomy, phys, immunology, histopathology, embryology, botanical med, etc etc.. my school only teaches things that have evidence and science behind it, none of this vibrational machined non sense, or allergy elimination techniques.
"And if someone paid $100,000 for courses in naturapathy, then they aren't too bright. There's no true governing body or accredition for it because its not even recognized in the United States."
incorrect your talking out of your ass.
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Melvin,
Why don't you scan your degree so everyone can see where it's from...
...just a thought to help add legitamacy to your claims.
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Ok "doctor" lol.
modern day quackery.
good luck with your scam, I mean biz. poor people of cherokee...
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I'm reporting this to www.quackwatch.org
:-[
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I'm only 1/3 of the entire business and the majority owner as it will be my funds that will primarily start the business. I still have 2 other partners that are going in with me on this venture and they both have equal say in it as well.
Honestly, Vince, I wonder how much time you spend obsessing about me. You're the only person who called my hotel room and tried to talk to me like some groupie or something which was kind of pathetic in my opinion.
The only other thing you talk about other than me is Arnold cheating you and etc.
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Jeez I hope you don't take advantage of the ignorance and stupidity of SquadFatty and Medford. Just because they are your partners give them some chores to do. Have SquadFatty take the "before" pics, he is a great photographer. Have Medford stand outside and hold a sign. It is good at that.
Medford all I know is I am not to fat to tie my own shoes. You should have had the guy at Payless tie them for you. You are a fucking mess.
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complementary and alternative medicine is the medicine of the future with people like dr andrew weil leading the way, this moron is just trying to earn a buck off people with real edcuation
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donutme...there, there, go eat some more. You must be hungry on your 100,000 calorie a day "diet"
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This thread is an all-time classic on Getbig. Preposterous claims and absurd reality supported by personal attacks. When all seems lost attack the critics.
Melvin claimed the bank manager was 'licking his chops' after seeing Melvin's wellness clinic plan. That really exposed Melvin as a bullshitter because no bank manager lends money for business enterprises unless you have security such as property. Then we find that Melvin has 2 partners who have an equal say but Melvin is still the majority owner. How can that be?
Some advice to hapless Melvin who has no clue about being in business with partners. Make sure you have 51% of the business otherwise the other two partners can take over the business.
It doesn't matter what anyone tells Melvin because he represents the theatre of the absurd with one crazy scheme after another. He is the Walter Mitty of Getbig. He is always going to show everyone with his physique or brains but comes up nothing.
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Jeez I hope you don't take advantage of the ignorance and stupidity of SquadFatty and Medford. Just because they are your partners give them some chores to do. Have SquadFatty take the "before" pics, he is a great photographer. Have Medford stand outside and hold a sign. It is good at that.
Medford all I know is I am not to fat to tie my own shoes. You should have had the guy at Payless tie them for you. You are a fucking mess.
hahaha, why do you make me do it? do you hate yourself that much? ;D
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I took those ads down from Ebay because I'm changing the format of sales to OScommerce and AuctionBlox to manage both website sales and Ebay sales.
Fact is that I've already checked with the insurance companies directly about the billing codes and I've already had that cleared with them as to what can be billed and overall the determination will be based on the client essentially. If someone comes off the streets for vibration therapy, then he'd be billed out of pocket for the sessions which would be minimal anyway as the machines don't require no more than turning them on and setting the display level. However if they are referred to me for rehab, then thats completely different.
Overall, its my problem to worry about. If it isn't reimbursed, then the client is billed for it directly. The services that will be offered will be affordable anyway because a vibration therapy session is going to be priced around $30.00.
And I won't worry about the paperless office requirement until 2009 but digital signature tablets are not going to be expensive
Like I said, I may simply bring in a medical doctor or chiropractor into the fold to make things much easier or I may just work out a smaller business model.
Life of an entrepenuer...... ;D
Have you checked with SPECIFIC policies Melvin? Again, some policies will pay for therapy...some will not. I also am still curious as to how you plan on billing without an NPI number. I find it funny that you are basically saying that you checked with "insurance companies" as if calling Aetna or Blue Cross will tell you what each individual policy will cover. Again, what do you plan on doing about documentation? Will you have the required initial exams? Will you know what is required for usage of the 99 codes for exams? Are you aware of what constitutes medical necessity? Do you have the necessary documents for informed concent? You see, I get the distinct impression that you think its going to be as easy as buying a stim, vibration, and infra-red machine bill and insurance company....get paid....yay!!!!
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I am starting to wonder if Melvin lives in some sheltered home where he is supervised. The guy has all these projects going and is treading water way over his head.
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Let's not forget the small business loan. Based on his prior "internet business" he may or may not need to purchase a shelf corporation.
If he wants the office to look anywhere respectable, he should probably plunk down at least $20-30,000 just in fixtures, HVAC, carpentry, lease down payment etc etc.
Since this is not an established franchise he is buying into, he does not luckily have to pay a franchise fee... but the bank will also want to see some sort of living income savings of at least six months. Not to mention he will have to pay a company like ADP for payroll sevices, amongst other things like insurance and marketing.
The list goes on.
Can Melvin be saved from this doomed venure?
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The smart money bets that no wellness clinic will be opened by Dr Melvin Goodrum and associates.
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Medford all I know is I am not to fat to tie my own shoes. You should have had the guy at Payless tie them for you.
Feel free to duplicate these poses!
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Feel free to duplicate these poses!
lonelysemen doesn't wear shoes, no stores carry EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE width shoes.
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Feel free to duplicate these poses!
clearly you are able to move around and lead an active lifestyle. I don't understand why onlyme would choose to fight someone that is 10x more inshape than he is.
He would never post another pic of himself on here ever again
I am seriously concerned for his health condition, being that obese always lead to a ton other health problems
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hahaha, why do you make me do it? do you hate yourself that much? ;D
hahahah moron I see you took the pics of your sister Medford. Same distinct style. YOU CAN'T SEE SHIT. Pretty sure Meford tore a hamstring trying to prove it can reach its shoes. hahaah what a family tree you have,
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Have you checked with SPECIFIC policies Melvin? Again, some policies will pay for therapy...some will not. I also am still curious as to how you plan on billing without an NPI number. I find it funny that you are basically saying that you checked with "insurance companies" as if calling Aetna or Blue Cross will tell you what each individual policy will cover. Again, what do you plan on doing about documentation? Will you have the required initial exams? Will you know what is required for usage of the 99 codes for exams? Are you aware of what constitutes medical necessity? Do you have the necessary documents for informed concent? You see, I get the distinct impression that you think its going to be as easy as buying a stim, vibration, and infra-red machine bill and insurance company....get paid....yay!!!!
Right, some things can be billed and some cannot be. I already know that. What I'm focused mainly on right now is the structure and services offered as well as atmosphere and format of the clinic. Billing is important as it pertains to revenue but the method of billing isn't because I can either hire someone to do it or I can pay a third party company.
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Let's not forget the small business loan. Based on his prior "internet business" he may or may not need to purchase a shelf corporation.
If he wants the office to look anywhere respectable, he should probably plunk down at least $20-30,000 just in fixtures, HVAC, carpentry, lease down payment etc etc.
Since this is not an established franchise he is buying into, he does not luckily have to pay a franchise fee... but the bank will also want to see some sort of living income savings of at least six months. Not to mention he will have to pay a company like ADP for payroll sevices, amongst other things like insurance and marketing.
The list goes on.
Can Melvin be saved from this doomed venure?
This is where being African-American has its advantages. I don't have to go to any bank just like I didn't have to for my first business venture, there's plenty of federal funding available for established minority-owned businesses. In other words, money was never an issue to begin with. Why do you think I am going to be the principal owner of this business for??? Its because I can get the funding for opening up a business such as this.... ::)
Hopefully, I'm not asked about the funding anymore because money isn't an issue
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Right, some things can be billed and some cannot be. I already know that. What I'm focused mainly on right now is the structure and services offered as well as atmosphere and format of the clinic. Billing is important as it pertains to revenue but the method of billing isn't because I can either hire someone to do it or I can pay a third party company.
Third time melvin...how do you plan on billing insurances when you do not have the qualifications (either md, dc, or specific nursing degree) in order to do so. NPI numbers are what is required for billing.....these are the following people that can get one....
Please select the radio button which most applies to you or your organization:
Type 1: An individual who renders health care services. (Example: Dentist, Chiropractor, Pharmacist)
Type 2: An organization that renders health care services. (Example: Hospital, Nursing Facility, Pharmacy)
I am VERY curious...how ya gonna do it Melvin?
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Third time melvin...how do you plan on billing insurances when you do not have the qualifications (either md, dc, or specific nursing degree) in order to do so. NPI numbers are what is required for billing.....these are the following people that can get one....
Please select the radio button which most applies to you or your organization:
Type 1: An individual who renders health care services. (Example: Dentist, Chiropractor, Pharmacist)
Type 2: An organization that renders health care services. (Example: Hospital, Nursing Facility, Pharmacy)
I am VERY curious...how ya gonna do it Melvin?
Uuh...Type 1 of course.... ;D.
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Uuh...Type 1 of course.... ;D.
Being that you think you know so much...perhaps this will enlighten you.
Healthcare Service Providers
‘‘Healthcare provider” 45 CFR 160.103: Healthcare provider means a provider of services (as defined in section 1861(u) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x (u)), a provider of medical or health services (as defined in section 1861(s) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x(s)), and any other person or organization who furnishes, bills, or is paid for healthcare in the normal course of business. Examples of healthcare providers included in this definition are: Physicians and other practitioners; hospitals and other institutional providers; suppliers of durable medical equipment, supplies related to healthcare, prosthetics, and orthotics; pharmacies and pharmacists; and group practices. There are individuals and organizations that furnish atypical or nontraditional services that are indirectly healthcare-related, such as taxi, home and vehicle modifications, habilitation, and respite services. These types of services are discussed in the Transactions Rule at 65 FR 50315. As stated in that Rule, many of these services do not qualify as healthcare services because the services do not fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare.’’ An individual or organization must determine if it provides any services that fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare’’ at § 160.103. If it does provide those services, it is considered a healthcare provider and would be eligible for an NPI. If it does not, and does not provide other services or supplies that bring it within the definition of ‘‘healthcare provider,’’ it would not be a healthcare provider under HIPAA, and would not be eligible to receive an NPI.
Healthcare Services Providers:
Ambulatory Surgical Center
Audiologist
Chiropractor
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Clinical Psychologist
Community Service Board
Dental Clinic
Dentist
Durable Medical Equipment/Supplies
Education Services
Emergency Transportation
Federally Qualified Health Center
Health Department Clinic
Home Health Agency
Hospice
Hospital
Independent Laboratory
Intermediate Care Facility
Licensed Clinical Social Worker
Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist
Licensed Professional Counselor
Long Stay Hospital
Nurse Anesthetist
Nurse Midwife
Nurse Practitioner
Occupational Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Optician
Optometrist
Outpatient Rehab Facility
Pharmacy
Physical Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Physician
Physician Assistant (Medicare crossover)
Podiatrist
Private Mental Hospital
Prosthetic Services
Psych Residential Inpatient Facility
Rehab Agency
Rehab Hospital
Renal Unit
Rural Health Clinic
Skilled Nursing Facility
Skilled Private Duty Nursing
State Mental Hospital
Substance Abuse Clinic
So Melvin....where do you see a Doctor of Metaphysics on there?
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Being that you think you know so much...perhaps this will enlighten you.
Healthcare Service Providers
‘‘Healthcare provider” 45 CFR 160.103: Healthcare provider means a provider of services (as defined in section 1861(u) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x (u)), a provider of medical or health services (as defined in section 1861(s) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x(s)), and any other person or organization who furnishes, bills, or is paid for healthcare in the normal course of business. Examples of healthcare providers included in this definition are: Physicians and other practitioners; hospitals and other institutional providers; suppliers of durable medical equipment, supplies related to healthcare, prosthetics, and orthotics; pharmacies and pharmacists; and group practices. There are individuals and organizations that furnish atypical or nontraditional services that are indirectly healthcare-related, such as taxi, home and vehicle modifications, habilitation, and respite services. These types of services are discussed in the Transactions Rule at 65 FR 50315. As stated in that Rule, many of these services do not qualify as healthcare services because the services do not fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare.’’ An individual or organization must determine if it provides any services that fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare’’ at § 160.103. If it does provide those services, it is considered a healthcare provider and would be eligible for an NPI. If it does not, and does not provide other services or supplies that bring it within the definition of ‘‘healthcare provider,’’ it would not be a healthcare provider under HIPAA, and would not be eligible to receive an NPI.
Healthcare Services Providers:
Ambulatory Surgical Center
Audiologist
Chiropractor
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Clinical Psychologist
Community Service Board
Dental Clinic
Dentist
Durable Medical Equipment/Supplies
Education Services
Emergency Transportation
Federally Qualified Health Center
Health Department Clinic
Home Health Agency
Hospice
Hospital
Independent Laboratory
Intermediate Care Facility
Licensed Clinical Social Worker
Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist
Licensed Professional Counselor
Long Stay Hospital
Nurse Anesthetist
Nurse Midwife
Nurse Practitioner
Occupational Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Optician
Optometrist
Outpatient Rehab Facility
Pharmacy
Physical Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Physician
Physician Assistant (Medicare crossover)
Podiatrist
Private Mental Hospital
Prosthetic Services
Psych Residential Inpatient Facility
Rehab Agency
Rehab Hospital
Renal Unit
Rural Health Clinic
Skilled Nursing Facility
Skilled Private Duty Nursing
State Mental Hospital
Substance Abuse Clinic
So Melvin....where do you see a Doctor of Metaphysics on there?
How about if I enlighten you again that I have 2 other partners in the venture as well and that I will be certified as a physical therapist and rehab by the time the business even opens. I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well.
I'm covered on my end but obviously some stuff will be billed and other cannot. Big deal. Any other questions
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This isn't to rag in you but I see you really use the internet to get ALL your education and experience. Is it that much easier than actually going to school and do people treat an internet based degree like they do one you get from actually going to school. Also, though I think the concept might be okay I really don't feel the location is good at all. You can have the best business around but if the location is bad then it isn't worth shit. Why would you pick a place like this to put in a business like yours. Just wondering
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This isn't to rag in you but I see you really use the internet to get ALL your education and experience. Is it that much easier than actually going to school and do people treat an internet based degree like they do one you get from actually going to school. Also, though I think the concept might be okay I really don't feel the location is good at all. You can have the best business around but if the location is bad then it isn't worth shit. Why would you pick a place like this to put in a business like yours. Just wondering
I do rely on distance education because I have a busy schedule and I learn a lot more because I'm not distracted so much.
I did the full time student/live on campus thing for about 2 years. I didn't pay much in dorm fees as it wasn't expensive but its hard to work with 3 other people in the room and it was cramp. Also wasn't good for dates because I would obviously have to rent a hotel or something. Then the classes, if I was lucky the teacher would actually be there but quite a few times, there was nothing but a fucking tape recorder or DVD or film projector playing in the front room. Screw that, if I'm paying 15,000 a year in tuition then I want a teacher there every single day when they were suppose to be there. All of that and running to classes here and there and eating cafeteria food. I don't mind Mars Hill's breakfast because those Belguim waffles were the shit but lunch and dinner was a toss up. The majority of my college tuition I still owe is from attending college full time as a student because its just so expensive.
Distance training is better. I get my books, DVD's and or paperwork by mail, I work on my own time in the comfort of my home without the three roommates but on the weekends, I can get a lot of shit done. I take the same test and pass them and that's it. Its much less expensive and I actually learn more because I've always been a self-starter myself. On certain courses, I do have to come in at night for a live training session and demonstration and I'll have to with the physical therapy.
As far as my sheepskin is concerned, its the same as the ones who spent all that money running back and forth and etc. It doesn't say anywhere that it was distance study course and I'm still able to the graduation party if I want to. Education is about learning, not about how much you spend or how you got your training. If you can run your business right, then its all good.
Overall, you just have to look at the price. An Ashworth University bach degree in Business for example is only $9,600 dollars whereas one at Mars Hill College would be around $60,000-100,000. Both hold the exact same accreditations so its accepted in any business medium.
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I do rely on distance education because I have a busy schedule and I learn a lot more because I'm not distracted so much.
I did the full time student/live on campus thing for about 2 years. I didn't pay much in dorm fees as it wasn't expensive but its hard to work with 3 other people in the room and it was cramp. Also wasn't good for dates because I would obviously have to rent a hotel or something. Then the classes, if I was lucky the teacher would actually be there but quite a few times, there was nothing but a fucking tape recorder or DVD or film projector playing in the front room. Screw that, if I'm paying 15,000 a year in tuition then I want a teacher there every single day when they were suppose to be there. All of that and running to classes here and there and eating cafeteria food. I don't mind Mars Hill's breakfast because those Belguim waffles were the shit but lunch and dinner was a toss up. The majority of my college tuition I still owe is from attending college full time as a student because its just so expensive.
Distance training is better. I get my books, DVD's and or paperwork by mail, I work on my own time in the comfort of my home without the three roommates but on the weekends, I can get a lot of shit done. I take the same test and pass them and that's it. Its much less expensive and I actually learn more because I've always been a self-starter myself. On certain courses, I do have to come in at night for a live training session and demonstration and I'll have to with the physical therapy.
As far as my sheepskin is concerned, its the same as the ones who spent all that money running back and forth and etc. It doesn't say anywhere that it was distance study course and I'm still able to the graduation party if I want to. Education is about learning, not about how much you spend or how you got your training. If you can run your business right, then its all good.
Overall, you just have to look at the price. An Ashworth University bach degree in Business for example is only $9,600 dollars whereas one at Mars Hill College would be around $60,000-100,000. Both hold the exact same accreditations so its accepted in any business medium.
HAHAHA most people i know who failed out of college just man up and say it.
Not Melvin... hahahahaha that is the most diluted, round-about way of saying "failed out" I have ever seen or heard
hahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Melvin, there are people on Getbig with accredited masters and doctorates. It is one thing to study and save money and quite another to obtain a proper PhD. Trust me, a PhD degree from a recognized university like Harvard is totally beyond you. You are not fooling anyone on Getbig with your home-study doctorate. Your 'degrees' have no academic standing and you are a fraud to use the title doctor.
We thought Vince G CSN MFT was dangerous. Little did we know that Dr Melvin Goodrum was lurking in the background.
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hey melvin,
pay me 1000 dollars, and I will give you your astronaut certificate, and you can fly spaceships. PM me to find out where to send money to.
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Melvin, there are people on Getbig with accredited masters and doctorates. It is one thing to study and save money and quite another to obtain a proper PhD. Trust me, a PhD degree from a recognized university like Harvard is totally beyond you. You are not fooling anyone on Getbig with your home-study doctorate. Your 'degrees' have no academic standing and you are a fraud to use the title doctor.
We thought Vince G CSN MFT was dangerous. Little did we know that Dr Melvin Goodrum was lurking in the background.
Chaps! Let's go into the woods and play dungeons and dragons! Come on chaps! Melvin!
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hey melvin,
pay me 1000 dollars, and I will give you your astronaut certificate, and you can fly spaceships. PM me to find out where to send money to.
he could just save 998 dollars and just get the Astronaut certificate out of the Cracker Jack box like he got his "medical degree".
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I must say - I admire Melvin Goodrum for reinventing himself and dedicating himself to a goal like this.
My only advice for you Vince - and I learned this the hard way - is to pick one thing and stick with it. I was an elementary teacher who become a network adminstrator who became a programmer who became a career counselor who became a web designer. ALl that 'starting over' meant that i was always paying my dues and learning new trades, never achieving thei high pay that comes with getting GREAT at something. I mean, I was a good teacher, a good netadmin, a good counselor, but I never was great enough at something to warrant making a good living from it. So that's all I can offer - stick to one arena.
Congrats on the business venture - I think once you get over the initial paperwork headaches and 'getting known', you'll find success with this.
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Dr Goodrum knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
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How about if I enlighten you again that I have 2 other partners in the venture as well and that I will be certified as a physical therapist and rehab by the time the business even opens. I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well.
I'm covered on my end but obviously some stuff will be billed and other cannot. Big deal. Any other questions
Thats all Melvin....simple wasnt it? You have such a hard time answering direct questions. How many posts did it take for you to answer that? Its like when you were in the car wreck and I offered some advice for you on things. Doing practice management is something I get paid for and WELL. I have show offices how to weed through the bullshit with insurance companies that they didnt think they could. If you werent such a dick you would find that people really dont mind helping out. Seriously....I even offered to help you out in the past with dieting. Instead you became arrogant and so I realized that you weren't worth my time. I sure hope that you dont have that persona in business.
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Yeah, I offered to find a place for Melvin to stay in Sydney (free of charge and not at my place) and let him work at my gym while I trained him to be a proper instructor and then built himself up. What does he do? Puts a post up suggesting I am a poof or something. Well, I am merely trying to help Melvin. God knows he can barely help himself. If my gym were in California instead of Sydney would he have refused the offer? I don't train anyone either in bodybuilding or as an instructor. I don't sell my knowledge. So Melvin would have had some invaluable training. I doubt he would appreciate what I have to teach him.
I know what it is like to come from a poor family and battle away. Melvin dismisses my gym equipment because I painted some pieces a purple colour. Only on Getbig could a dunce put down the only bicep machine that received a patent in the US in living memory.
I also know what it is like to spend years at universities doing the courses and attending lectures and seminars. Anyone who sends away for a doctorate and uses it in his business is devoid of intellectual honesty. I give anyone credit if they have a decent university degree. In the meantime, charlatans like Melvin can expect more of the same.
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Melvin wrote:"I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well."
Isn't that University 7 miles out of Sylva? Doesn't sound like next door.
http://www.townofsylva.org/
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Melvin wrote:"I live in Sylva right next to Western Carolina University where I am taking online study classes as well as doing night training as well."
Isn't that University 7 miles out of Sylva? Doesn't sound like next door.
http://www.townofsylva.org/
7 miles....::)
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I must say - I admire Melvin Goodrum for reinventing himself and dedicating himself to a goal like this.
My only advice for you Vince - and I learned this the hard way - is to pick one thing and stick with it. I was an elementary teacher who become a network adminstrator who became a programmer who became a career counselor who became a web designer. ALl that 'starting over' meant that i was always paying my dues and learning new trades, never achieving thei high pay that comes with getting GREAT at something. I mean, I was a good teacher, a good netadmin, a good counselor, but I never was great enough at something to warrant making a good living from it. So that's all I can offer - stick to one arena.
Congrats on the business venture - I think once you get over the initial paperwork headaches and 'getting known', you'll find success with this.
I haven't changed my business standing, I'm simply expanding onto an already successful business. Its my business that is now allowing me the opportunity to take it to the next step. Trust me on this.
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I haven't changed my business standing, I'm simply expanding onto an already successful business. Its my business that is now allowing me the opportunity to take it to the next step. Trust me on this.
Vince I want to know why did you pick that location. Are there other business's like it in the area you got comps from? How did you figure out projections? What is your customer base based on? What is the daily traffic flow by your location? Starting a new business is great, but somewhere along the line you have to have something to support it. All the equipment, marketing, advertising, promotion and having you stand outside holding a sign won't mean shit unless there is a market for it their and the customers to support it. Just wondering.
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Vince is Gone......
Its now Dr. Melvin Goodrum, CN MScM and I now run the "Goodrum Clinic of Integrative Medicine" and I'm pretty much out of the bodybuilding industry other than competing .
More on that soon as I'm sure there will be a lot of questions
It is now clear that you don't run any such clinic. Typical Goodrum bs, especially the Dr part. You claim you are out of the bb industry then state that Caliber will be providing enough cash to pay the rent.
It all sounds like a pipedream. This is vintage Vince G CSN MFT stuff.
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It is now clear that you don't run any such clinic. Typical Goodrum bs, especially the Dr part. You claim you are out of the bb industry then state that Caliber will be providing enough cash to pay the rent.
It all sounds like a pipedream. This is vintage Vince G CSN MFT stuff.
Melvin! Come here boy! The sheilas and the dogfood are waiting! I will wear my trademark speedos!
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Melvin! Come here boy! The sheilas and the dogfood are waiting! I will wear my trademark speedos!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Debussey finally wrote something funny. Even crazy guys can be amusing at times. He still can't match serious Melvin who provides us with mirth almost daily.
I had an arm workout on Saturday and my triceps are still sore today. So I will train them again today and keep them growing. I don't understand why so many have trouble keeping their size into advanced years. The forumula is simple. Even Dr Goodrum could comprehend this and use it in his clinic for anti-aging therapy which would be fair dinkum. The key is to find the rare effective exercises and then the rest is easy. I doubt Milos' giant sets are the way to go. Could work for a while, though.
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Debussey finally wrote something funny. Even crazy guys can be amusing at times. He still can't match serious Melvin who provides us with mirth almost daily.
I had an arm workout on Saturday and my triceps are still sore today. So I will train them again today and keep them growing. I don't understand why so many have trouble keeping their size into advanced years. The forumula is simple. Even Dr Goodrum could comprehend this and use it in his clinic for anti-aging therapy which would be fair dinkum. The key is to find the rare effective exercises and then the rest is easy. I doubt Milos' giant sets are the way to go. Could work for a while, though.
he wouldn't be able to collect his fraudulent Medicare payments then.
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Debussey finally wrote something funny. Even crazy guys can be amusing at times. He still can't match serious Melvin who provides us with mirth almost daily.
I had an arm workout on Saturday and my triceps are still sore today. So I will train them again today and keep them growing. I don't understand why so many have trouble keeping their size into advanced years. The forumula is simple. Even Dr Goodrum could comprehend this and use it in his clinic for anti-aging therapy which would be fair dinkum. The key is to find the rare effective exercises and then the rest is easy. I doubt Milos' giant sets are the way to go. Could work for a while, though.
your fat and look like a regular old man, no offense.
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Melvin is hiding out in the hills of North Carolina. Smart thing for him to do.
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Vince I want to know why did you pick that location. Are there other business's like it in the area you got comps from? How did you figure out projections? What is your customer base based on? What is the daily traffic flow by your location? Starting a new business is great, but somewhere along the line you have to have something to support it. All the equipment, marketing, advertising, promotion and having you stand outside holding a sign won't mean shit unless there is a market for it their and the customers to support it. Just wondering.
Its price and space but mainly it was because I was ruled out by majority vote. This place is out in between Sylva and Cherokee which is practically out somewhere down the highway in the middle of nowhere and it would take more advertising. But 350.00 for 1000 sq ft is what made them jump
I had recommended the office in the medical section of town in front of the hospital. It was 1100 a month but in the long run, advertising would be less and it would have been easier to attract clients and customers.
There's been a few other things such as having sage burning throughout the office but I said heck no to that because I want proper medical air filtration systems, clean carpet, and white walls. Also I did not want the usual crap hanging on the walls.
Its a weird situation where I wish to have an advanced holistic health facility without all the stuff that distracts and detracts people. If this clinic does not go as planned, I still have a contengent plan for a more scaled down facility to which I would not need the other two people.
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Melvin, bail out immediately. Those
partners stooges already are running the show. Things will go downhill from now on. Your reasons for locating near a hospital are sound. However, it doesn't matter what you want because your partners outvoted you. I told you to obtain 51% of your business otherwise you will be sorry later when the profits are divided.
Please stop changing the details of your business plan. The other day the rent was $300/month and now it is $350. There is no way you blokes can succeed because it is the blind leading the blind. Have you actually visited other clinics to see what goes on there? Surely you have to look professional if you are going to attract clients. Locating in the middle of nowhere with no budget for advertising is plain nuts.
Hope this helps.
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Vince what did the landlord give you. How much TI $'s. You better at least have free rent during construction and have at least 3 to 6 months free rent after opening. What is the C.A.M. Be sure to have the landlords be repsonsible for the A/C and be sure to check the plumbing and make sure the landlords handle that too. Especially if something happens after opening. Anything inside the walls or underground make sure they are repsonsible for. You don't want to move in and find out the pipes are bad and now you have to pay for that and your business is closed during this period. For that amount of rent something has to be wrong with the property. How is the roof. Make sure it doesn't leak. Are their termites? Also how is the electrical. Yo are going to have a lot of electrical equipment, are you setup for that. That can be a major expense getting that done. As I see it your partners don't know much about this stuff. Taking a place located in front of a hospital and saying no to that for a place located nowhere is a sign of "not knowing much". Get on the ball and take over.
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Keith, with you and me and others helping Dr Goodrum how can he possibly go wrong?
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Vince what did the landlord give you. How much TI $'s. You better at least have free rent during construction and have at least 3 to 6 months free rent after opening. What is the C.A.M. Be sure to have the landlords be repsonsible for the A/C and be sure to check the plumbing and make sure the landlords handle that too. Especially if something happens after opening. Anything inside the walls or underground make sure they are repsonsible for. You don't want to move in and find out the pipes are bad and now you have to pay for that and your business is closed during this period. For that amount of rent something has to be wrong with the property. How is the roof. Make sure it doesn't leak. Are their termites? Also how is the electrical. Yo are going to have a lot of electrical equipment, are you setup for that. That can be a major expense getting that done. As I see it your partners don't know much about this stuff. Taking a place located in front of a hospital and saying no to that for a place located nowhere is a sign of "not knowing much". Get on the ball and take over.
As far as building inspections are concerned, I'm having a buddy of mine who's an inspector take care of that as I do not know squat about construction or building material. If I don't know something then I find someone who does. I'm assuming that the place they chose has some issues as the rent is very low for the space.
This is the first time I've actually considered opening an actual office front and working with other people so its pretty new to me. My business has essentially been ran with a computer and a warehouse facility. Its a lot to do which is why I am spending a year planning and putting everything together so the dynamics could change by the time everything is complete
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Translation: Dr Goodrum is playing by ear.
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As far as building inspections are concerned, I'm having a buddy of mine who's an inspector take care of that as I do not know squat about construction or building material. If I don't know something then I find someone who does. I'm assuming that the place they chose has some issues as the rent is very low for the space.
This is the first time I've actually considered opening an actual office front and working with other people so its pretty new to me. My business has essentially been ran with a computer and a warehouse facility. Its a lot to do which is why I am spending a year planning and putting everything together so the dynamics could change by the time everything is complete
If you have the location you have a lease don't you. How much money have they given you for buildout (TI= Tenant Improvement). Usually the landlord or owner will give you a certain amount per sq. foot to help build ot your space. Did they give you anything. And you really need to check on the lease and see who is repsonsible for certain items (i.e. roof, plumbing, electrical etc.) The last thing you are going to want is a building that falls apart in a few months after you open. My A/C in hawaii cost us an extra $60,000 just 5 months after we took over. My partner at the time I thought took care of this. Well he didn't. If we knew the A/C units were bad enough they were going to go to shit in just 5 or 6 months we would have had the owner put in new units or not take the space. So you better do you homework or you are going to be on here begging for money like Sean did for Flex.
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If you are renting premises for a business then make sure the owner pays for the fitout and you pay for that fitout through additional rent. If you pay for your own fitout then you can't claim all those expenses on your taxes right away but take so much off over many years. Talk to an accountant about this. You don't want to borrow money to do a fitout. Much better to pay double the rent over 3 years, for instance. Also, don't take a rent out for more than 3 years. Businesses can go bust and you still have to pay the rent until someone else takes it over.
I wouldn't recommend going into a partnership where one has only 1/3 share. Too easy to be outvoted in important matters. Even 50% is foolish because if you disagree with your partner what do you do?
Seeing that Keith is now on the continent maybe he and Dr Goodrum can open a gym together? Melvin can get the financing and Keith can provide the know how to run it. This would be a better proposition than a wellness clinic in the backwoods of a First Nation reserve in the hills of North or South Carolina!
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If you are renting premises for a business then make sure the owner pays for the fitout and you pay for that fitout through additional rent. If you pay for your own fitout then you can't claim all those expenses on your taxes right away but take so much off over many years. Talk to an accountant about this. You don't want to borrow money to do a fitout. Much better to pay double the rent over 3 years, for instance. Also, don't take a rent out for more than 3 years. Businesses can go bust and you still have to pay the rent until someone else takes it over.
No landlord will give him T.I. dollars nor any rent concession. Office buildout (medical office buildout is more expensive) is anywhere from $25-$40 PSF. 1,000 SF = $40,000. Also, no lender will lend him money to do just T.I. anyway.
However, he can choose to accelerate the depre.
Onlyme seems to know what he is talking about.
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If you are renting premises for a business then make sure the owner pays for the fitout and you pay for that fitout through additional rent. If you pay for your own fitout then you can't claim all those expenses on your taxes right away but take so much off over many years. Talk to an accountant about this. You don't want to borrow money to do a fitout. Much better to pay double the rent over 3 years, for instance. Also, don't take a rent out for more than 3 years. Businesses can go bust and you still have to pay the rent until someone else takes it over.
I wouldn't recommend going into a partnership where one has only 1/3 share. Too easy to be outvoted in important matters. Even 50% is foolish because if you disagree with your partner what do you do?
Seeing that Keith is now on the continent maybe he and Dr Goodrum can open a gym together? Melvin can get the financing and Keith can provide the know how to run it. This would be a better proposition than a wellness clinic in the backwoods of a First Nation reserve in the hills of North or South Carolina!
I would no way be in business with Goodrum (no offense). Financing is the easy part for me. I have budgeted more on my Grand Opening Party ($95,000.00) than Vince will spend putting his whole business together plus 6+ months of business. I just would never spend time, effort and money on a business in such a remote area. Also, without putting in due diligence you will never get the proper market research you need to forecast realistic projections. I just can't see where he gets his numbers from. He said $500,000 in the first year in gross sales. How did he come up with that or did it just come from out of the sky.
Also, taking out a loan for that amount would be hard to justify on a lease only 3 years in length. You don't have enough time to pay back your loan. You're looking at monthly payments of around $2,500+ a month, plus rent, plus utilities, plus lease payments, plus payroll, plus insurance, plus medical insurance, plus phone, plus cable & internet, etc. I don't know but it just doesn't look good. But who knows other things have happened
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I would no way be in business with Goodrum (no offense). Financing is the easy part for me. I have budgeted more on my Grand Opening Party ($95,000.00) than Vince will spend putting his whole business together plus 6+ months of business. I just would never spend time, effort and money on a business in such a remote area. Also, without putting in due diligence you will never get the proper market research you need to forecast realistic projections. I just can't see where he gets his numbers from. He said $500,000 in the first year in gross sales. How did he come up with that or did it just come from out of the sky.
Also, taking out a loan for that amount would be hard to justify on a lease only 3 years in length. You don't have enough time to pay back your loan. You're looking at monthly payments of around $2,500+ a month, plus rent, plus utilities, plus lease payments, plus payroll, plus insurance, plus medical insurance, plus phone, plus cable & internet, etc. I don't know but it just doesn't look good. But who knows other things have happened
First off I don't have to finance, the money would come from a Minority Federal Grant that I can take advantage of. I would still have to foot some of the expenses but not much and with partners in the business, the loan would be much easier as a incorporated entity.
Also, this is the very first building I've even considered opening. I've always worked at a gym or traveled to people's houses so excuse my ignorance on not knowing much about building space, plumbing, etc. Its something I've never worried about until now. That's why I have gotten some partners together.
The $500,000 a year in revenue is based on similar outfits in surrounding areas. This area has a much higher number of senior citizens and with proper marketing, I think it will be a great venture and very profitable.
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Melvin, people are telling you that your location is not suitable for a wellness clinic because you don't have the resources to advertise much. Renting premises because it is cheap is hardly attractive for a wellness center. How are you going to look professional?
How much money can you borrow from the government? You seem more qualified to open a gym than a wellness center. You wouldn't be so dependent on partners and staff then. Surely there is a demand for a gym owned by someone such as yourself? You could locate in a bigger city and find a middle class area to set up in.
Many, such as Keith, could help you then.
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Melvin, people are telling you that your location is not suitable for a wellness clinic because you don't have the resources to advertise much. Renting premises because it is cheap is hardly attractive for a wellness center. How are you going to look professional?
How much money can you borrow from the government? You seem more qualified to open a gym than a wellness center. You wouldn't be so dependent on partners and staff then. Surely there is a demand for a gym owned by someone such as yourself? You could locate in a bigger city and find a middle class area to set up in.
Many, such as Keith, could help you then.
shut up for gods sakes old man, im sure vince is going to take buisness advice from some random chap on the internet. are you delusional or what? he is an idiot, he thinks hes a doctor and will make 500 000 a year in profit.
give it up, let the thread die, do this shit via pm, you sick fucks.
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First off I don't have to finance, the money would come from a Minority Federal Grant that I can take advantage of. I would still have to foot some of the expenses but not much and with partners in the business, the loan would be much easier as a incorporated entity.
Also, this is the very first building I've even considered opening. I've always worked at a gym or traveled to people's houses so excuse my ignorance on not knowing much about building space, plumbing, etc. Its something I've never worried about until now. That's why I have gotten some partners together.
The $500,000 a year in revenue is based on similar outfits in surrounding areas. This area has a much higher number of senior citizens and with proper marketing, I think it will be a great venture and very profitable.
If your area has a higher percentage of senior citizens, then perhaps you should be investigating the possibility of a C.O.R.E. office. Also, I would imagine you have applied for your CMS/MEDICARE number by now?
Oh, and PS...hows the prep going?
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New Owner of UNIMPORTANT Fitness Equipment.
Fixed.
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If your area has a higher percentage of senior citizens, then perhaps you should be investigating the possibility of a C.O.R.E. office. Also, I would imagine you have applied for your CMS/MEDICARE number by now?
Oh, and PS...hows the prep going?
A funeral home would be a lot better
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This is the first time I've actually considered opening an actual office front and working with other people so its pretty new to me. My business has essentially been ran with a computer and a warehouse facility.
Translation
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My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy
* ONDAMED®
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED®
Allergy elimination
* Food and environmental sensitivities
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
Bumped so the lads can appreciate that our own Vince G has a PhD and is working on second according to him! ::)
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My new mission is to help others live healthier with more vitality and spirit. ::)Here's a few of the services we will be offering:
Health Analysis
*Electro-Dermal Screening ::)
*Hair, Blood, and Saliva Testing ??? Testing for what exactly?
Detoxification
* Nutrition, homeopathy and enzyme therapy ::)
* ONDAMED® ???
* Far Infrared Sauna
* Detoxing foot bath ::) ::)
* Aromatherapy, Electro-acupuncture,
* Stress reduction
Pain management
* Therapeutic massage
* SCENAR
* ONDAMED® you mentioned this already
Allergy elimination HOW???
* Food and environmental sensitivities ::)
* Weight management
Sports Performance & Rehab
* Vibration Therapy Trainer ::)
* EFI Medical Systems PowerTower
* Electro-Stimulator Machine
* Infrared Light Therapy for Sports Injuries ::)
Basically, I'm bringing Holistic & Chinese Medicine into the 21st Century and creating a new way of life for people seeking optimum health. I will have a staff of about 5 people and the facility will be very low maintenence. The total cost for expenditures will be under 20,000 dollars and my lease payment for the office space per month will only be 300 dollars.
The doctorate is in Metaphysics Science but I'm still continuing my studies at another college for another doctorate.
You sound like a shyster. No offense.
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Doctorate in what? Never heard of metaphysical studies
But a quick search reveals its a useless meaningless piece of paper. I guess is melvin goodrum is aiming to become a pastor it might be relevant
https://metaphysicsuniversity.com/ums-program-overview/metaphysical-degrees-credentials/
^ lol at all of that
"RANDOM AFFIRMATION
I am doing exactly what I need to be doing at this time" <--wtf ???
"Master Degree Titles
From UMS California
Master of Metaphysics, M.M.
Master of Metaphysical Sciences, M.Sc.
Master of Divinity, M.Div.
You must first complete your bachelor’s degree in order to earn your master’s. This curriculum usually takes a minimum of four months to complete. Once you have completed the master’s level written and audio lessons, and passed the Master’s Culminating Project, you are eligible to receive this degree. This diploma leads to creating a more professional image for your books, classes, practice and other endeavors.
Ordination and Practitioners Certificate
From Wisdom of the Heart Church.
Upon completion of the master’s level, you will also receive your Ministerial Ordination and your Practitioner’s Certificate.
For your ordination, you may choose the title of Minister or Reverend.
The Practitioner’s Certificate is necessary in some states for hands on healing or counseling. This protects your right to legally practice."
^ lol at ALL of that
"Is UMS the highest path for me at this time?
Close your eyes and breathe deeply. Spend a few minutes letting your mind become quiet and still. Allow all of your thoughts, concerns, stresses, worries, and tensions to melt away with each breath.
Begin to be aware of your energy body. As you continue to breathe deeply, find yourself going inward and connecting with your own wisdom. Feel how you are a fluid, dynamic energy system, and also how, at the center, you are completely quiet, still, and at peace. At this moment, place your hands over your heart, and feel the energy here, at the source of your emotional and spiritual intelligence.
Now, through this lens, begin to visualize the energy of UMS. What does it look like? How does it feel? What are the colors, shapes, and general vibration? When you imagine enrolling with UMS, and beginning this type of journey, how does it feel? Take your time, and look closely, as your emotional and intuitive intelligence will steer you in the best direction for you at this time."
^ shyster talk
Come on Goodrum YOURE BETTER THAN THIS I still have faith in u
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brutal ownage by Basile.
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Being that you think you know so much...perhaps this will enlighten you.
Healthcare Service Providers
‘‘Healthcare provider” 45 CFR 160.103: Healthcare provider means a provider of services (as defined in section 1861(u) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x (u)), a provider of medical or health services (as defined in section 1861(s) of the Act, 42 U.S.C. 1395x(s)), and any other person or organization who furnishes, bills, or is paid for healthcare in the normal course of business. Examples of healthcare providers included in this definition are: Physicians and other practitioners; hospitals and other institutional providers; suppliers of durable medical equipment, supplies related to healthcare, prosthetics, and orthotics; pharmacies and pharmacists; and group practices. There are individuals and organizations that furnish atypical or nontraditional services that are indirectly healthcare-related, such as taxi, home and vehicle modifications, habilitation, and respite services. These types of services are discussed in the Transactions Rule at 65 FR 50315. As stated in that Rule, many of these services do not qualify as healthcare services because the services do not fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare.’’ An individual or organization must determine if it provides any services that fall within our definition of ‘‘healthcare’’ at § 160.103. If it does provide those services, it is considered a healthcare provider and would be eligible for an NPI. If it does not, and does not provide other services or supplies that bring it within the definition of ‘‘healthcare provider,’’ it would not be a healthcare provider under HIPAA, and would not be eligible to receive an NPI.
Healthcare Services Providers:
Ambulatory Surgical Center
Audiologist
Chiropractor
Clinical Nurse Specialist
Clinical Psychologist
Community Service Board
Dental Clinic
Dentist
Durable Medical Equipment/Supplies
Education Services
Emergency Transportation
Federally Qualified Health Center
Health Department Clinic
Home Health Agency
Hospice
Hospital
Independent Laboratory
Intermediate Care Facility
Licensed Clinical Social Worker
Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist
Licensed Professional Counselor
Long Stay Hospital
Nurse Anesthetist
Nurse Midwife
Nurse Practitioner
Occupational Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Optician
Optometrist
Outpatient Rehab Facility
Pharmacy
Physical Therapist (Medicare crossover)
Physician
Physician Assistant (Medicare crossover)
Podiatrist
Private Mental Hospital
Prosthetic Services
Psych Residential Inpatient Facility
Rehab Agency
Rehab Hospital
Renal Unit
Rural Health Clinic
Skilled Nursing Facility
Skilled Private Duty Nursing
State Mental Hospital
Substance Abuse Clinic
So Melvin....where do you see a Doctor of Metaphysics on there?
Clerical oversight. It was added at a later date.
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There are many different areas in naturopathy. My studies in alternative medicine is homeopathic medicine, aromatherapy, and light therapy. I have no formal training in Chinese medicine which is why I stated earlier that my clinic will have a Chinese Grandmaster and a reflexologist working as well. I cannot run this whole operation by itself. I will also have secretary who will greet customers, set appointments, and make herbal tea as well.
Its will be in Cherokee, NC and yes that's why its so cheap.
would love some herbal tea made by the secretary!
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brutal ownage by Basile.
People here believe I picked on Goodrum. Nope, just called him out on all his bullshit. He never opened any clinic, studio or gym. All hype and zero substance.
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People here believe I picked on Goodrum. Nope, just called him out on all his bullshit. He never opened any clinic, studio or gym. All hype and zero substance.
Melvin just opened an office.It has a leather chair, desk, some pens and a paper calender. Clearly the hard work paid off since he started this thread in 2008.
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People here believe I picked on Goodrum. Nope, just called him out on all his bullshit. He never opened any clinic, studio or gym. All hype and zero substance.
I appreciate that. His fantasies can be too overwhelming to read sometimes.
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Woah, woah, hold up guys. Have some respect.
His bachelors degree took a MINIMUM of 4 months to complete ;D
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My degree is from a Church Monastery. By law, they can issue religion based degrees to anyone they wish. I've also been granted liability insurance by Lloyd's of London for the business so everything is covered.
My degree is Metaphysics not Medicine and I will not be giving out perscriptions or birthing babies. I will however be performing weddings and barmizvahs.
Very impressive , oh by the way do you own :
- www.vincebasile.com & www.kamhigh.com