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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Hulkotron on February 14, 2013, 01:18:08 PM
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is for homasexuals and teenagers, quote this if you are down.
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if you want excellent posture you must work abs
i'm too lazy to do it
not working abs leads to lordosis
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if you want excellent posture you must work abs
not working abs leads to lordosis
Nonsense
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Nonsense
it's exercise science
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it's exercise science
No it's not.
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No it's not.
thank god because i hate crunches
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I better stop then or I'll turn into homasexual.
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ABS GET WORKED INDIRECTLY THROUGH MANY EXERCISES.
I RARELY TRAIN ABS DIRECTLY.
JUST MY OPINION.
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I better stop then or I'll turn into homasexual.
too late. Before you know it you will be working glutes!!!! ::)
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is for homasexuals and teenagers, quote this if you are down.
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is for homasexuals and teenagers, quote this if you are down.
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If you don't have abs
You don't have a complete physique
Same with legs chest back etc
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(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/arce97/1210982918_l.jpg)
Females love this
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(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/arce97/1210982918_l.jpg)
Females love this
I don't man you look pretty dangerous there.
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Even have the exit blocked with some large heavy object so they can't escape ???
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No ab training here.
Albeit I diet hard as hell.
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I do not work abs directly either ped and diet and cardio
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I thought you were a natural athlete Arce?
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I last used ped in 2007
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very nice pecs.thats the perfet genetic shape for pecs imo.
youre quite lean too, but you could learn from me in that regard
:D ;D
Thanks man! 220 pound swimmer compared to these beasts on here.
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(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/arce97/1210982918_l.jpg)
Females love this
Any pics without the towel Arce1988 ?
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arce, do you also feel that without peds is kinda hard to keep abs?
100% natural
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yes, dear brother che, but that wasnt my point :D
My bad , I'm sorry Galeniko .
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zyzz-esque waist,too.
preferable to most npc heavyweight bodies.
respect, albeit it s all structure ;D
arce, do you also feel that without peds is kinda hard to keep abs?
i mean, theyll be there, just not as sharply shredded like on peds, but every smallest cheat meal goes straight there as bodyfat.
on ped, is quite incredible with what i can get away food-wise, i sometimes eat 10k calories+ all at one, i might do a video of such a feast once, and will only be bit bloated next couple days, while off ped, 2 small pies make immediately softer :-[
You're not doing too bad there yourself stud. You in Europe?
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no diet
some ab work
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/abdominalsb_zps3b002e2e.jpg)
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no diet
some ab work
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/abdominalsb_zps3b002e2e.jpg)
What's up dexter. :). Look awesome dude.
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abs still at 44....
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never , ever work them.
and this is the result:
(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc490/hadabusa/DSC00386_zpsf72d5a20.jpg)
today in the gym, a girl and a guy trained abs, i asked them"why are you doing this clown exercise?"
i told them in order to se abs they have to eat less over long period of time.
they replied im the first one who says so.
then i flashed my 6pack and told them to never listen to people who dont have this and walked away.
Pretty silly really when you think about it & really silly for you to say such things. But this is a typical PED users response who does not have a lot of knowledge on how to build real muscle without drugs. A PED user that just juices to get big with little actual work. I'm sure the girl & guy you were talking to were not using PED's?
What if they've got very little ab muscle there to begin with? You need to build muscle over a VERY long period of time for natural athletes. I do direct abwork at least 2-3 times a week & I would HIGHLY recommend doing this for any natural with little abdominal muscle.
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consider yourself very lucky,man.
we have that skinny new guy in the gym, black guy from the usa, not the biggest, but ripped all the time.he comes to the gym eating mars bars, eats snickers during the workouts and after the same.
its unbelieveable.entirely ripped everything.
thanks bro , i eat snickers during my workout, plantain chips.... etc
abs are just a bodypart always had....
i see your abs are quite tight which is good.... man a physique without a nice waistline... is kind of pointless
looking good man
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abs still at 44....
looking sick man for any age....
see you have that big chest hoing on man....
44 man you are looking good forget 44
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never work abs, maybe once a week, maybe once a month, maybe once every 3 months
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thanks bro , i eat snickers during my workout, plantain chips.... etc
abs are just a bodypart always had....
i see your abs are quite tight which is good.... man a physique without a nice waistline... is kind of pointless
looking good man
Abs are the first thing anyone looks at guy or girl. Represents good health and sex appeal.
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What's up dexter. :). Look awesome dude.
looking good youself man,
physiques like yours njflex groink...galienko.. look awesome...
all round good bodyparts a lot of guys are big but have a big belly to go with it....
having an all round physique is what its all about
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looking good youself man,
physiques like yours njflex groink...galienko.. look awesome...
all round good bodyparts a lot of guys are big but have a big belly to go with it....
having an all round physique is what its all about
thanx ur right there too,,,humbles good but u got it bro,,,
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Some shredded physiques in this thread. Good to know people on here actually train hard.
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Some shredded physiques in this thread. Good to know people on here actually train hard.
we do and good to see u posting ...
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brother, is this your year round bodyfat?
have you seen my non ped pics?looks prety much same, just flatter and less volume.
there is no such thing as building muscle naturally, well, for the vast majority of ppl out there.
and the thing i said to them is absolutely true, ped user or not ped user.if the fat is gone, eveyone will have a nice sixpack.
for proof look no further than skinny teenagers, who never lifted a weight in their life, some of them (the lean enough ones) have abs putting man bodybuilder gymratss to shame.
comeon, youre not serious with this "takes just looong for a natty" are you?
ill not comment this in depth,lol.
nycflex is leaner than hamdullah normaly is year round there.amazing.
Most retarded thing I've heard today. C'mon man, you can't be serious. The thing you said is TOTAL & UTTER BS.
If the fat is gone & they have very little muscle, then they could end up being DANGEROUSLY underweight if they listen to you. I've never seen a teenager that doesn't lift walking around at my size EVER in my life. Please show me one. In fact, I'm bigger than a lot of PED users at my gym.
If what you say is true & you cannot build muscle naturally, then how the hell did I go from 70kg twink to 93kg? Is it 23kg worth of fat? They are my abs in Avi BTW.
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C-buzz when I first started training I went down to low bf but could not see my abs cause I barely had muscle there...anywhere lol. As time went on I started doing weighted ab work and I developed them like you have naturally. In your avatar you can tell theres abs under the fat....so I agree that some people with little muscle will benefit from actual abdominal work. But in reality.... like someone mentioned here already they get trained indirectly so if you grow everywhere else your abdominal muscles should grow too...
Once you have them I don't see the point in "working abs"
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C-buzz when I first started training I went down to low bf but could not see my abs cause I barely had muscle there...anywhere lol. As time went on I started doing weighted ab work and I developed them like you have naturally. In your avatar you can tell theres abs under the fat....so I agree that some people with little muscle will benefit from actual abdominal work. But in reality.... like someone mentioned here already they get trained indirectly so if you grow everywhere else your abdominal muscles should grow too...
Once you have them I don't see the point in "working abs"
For some reason, Gal thinks it's impossible for natural lifters to build muscle naturally. Not to sure where he is getting that from, but it's very wrong. Sure, your abs get worked indirectly with other exercises. But for beginners just starting out who actually want some definition in there midsection, doing abwork is EXTREMELY beneficial & important for the end result. Diet, is obviously also very important. But without muscle to begin with, your wasting your time.
That's all I'm saying.
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For some reason, Gal thinks it's impossible for natural lifters to build muscle naturally. Not to sure where he is getting that from, but it's very wrong. Sure, your abs get worked indirectly with other exercises. But for beginners just starting out who actually want some definition in there midsection, doing abwork is EXTREMELY beneficial & important for the end result. Diet, is obviously also very important. But without muscle to begin with, your wasting your time.
That's all I'm saying.
How much do you think your abs can grow naturally ? an 1/8''
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For some reason, Gal thinks it's impossible for natural lifters to build muscle naturally. Not to sure where he is getting that from, but it's very wrong. Sure, your abs get worked indirectly with other exercises. But for beginners just starting out who actually want some definition in there midsection, doing abwork is EXTREMELY beneficial & important for the end result. Diet, is obviously also very important. But without muscle to begin with, your wasting your time.
That's all I'm saying.
As someone who's been on both sides....I can see why galeniko thinks the way he does about natural training. I know it offends a lot of guys but comparing the two; natural vs enhanced....you really can't.
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this is corret, they get indirect training when one starts to work out, and thatll be enough to build them, thats what i meant,sorry cbuzz.
nono, lol, those teenagers have no mass whatsoever, just well shaped abs.thats what i meant.
oh,one can build muscle naturaly, for say, the first 2 years the progress will be good,if diet is good etc.
after that, there wont be any quick gains any more.
70 to 93 is decent, thats what i did naturally back in the day.much was bloat,fat but definitely most gains were muscle.you did the smart approach so far, if my advice is worth anything to you, stay natty as long as possible.
if you ever decide to go on gear, keep the dosages low at any time.
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when i say impossible to build muscle naturaly, i mean impossible to get some real thickness,esp when lean.
^ This times a thousand. Most will wither away to nothing when trying to get below certain bf levels.
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natural vs enhanced....you really can't.
Yes you can , have you seen Billy Guns enhanced physique .
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like gali said its not the development everyone has genetic shape/thickness they will get and dieting will effect bodyfat needed to get them lean,lean is good and will suffice if natural/clean,what gali say's is the real hardness relaxed with veins and intercostal deep in ribcage that is more drug induced than natural.especially if all other bodyparts are developed and ripped.132 lbs and ripped abs and nothing else sux,,,
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Yes you can , have you seen Billy Guns enhanced physique .
what.... he's dead?
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real hardness relaxed with veins and intercostal deep in ribcage that is more drug induced than natural.
I disagree
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this is corret, they get indirect training when one starts to work out, and thatll be enough to build them, thats what i meant,sorry cbuzz.
nono, lol, those teenagers have no mass whatsoever, just well shaped abs.thats what i meant.
oh,one can build muscle naturaly, for say, the first 2 years the progress will be good,if diet is good etc.
after that, there wont be any quick gains any more.
70 to 93 is decent, thats what i did naturally back in the day.much was bloat,fat but definitely most gains were muscle.you did the smart approach so far, if my advice is worth anything to you, stay natty as long as possible.
if you ever decide to go on gear, keep the dosages low at any time.
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when i say impossible to build muscle naturaly, i mean impossible to get some real thickness,esp when lean.
Ok, I can see what your saying now.
I will be lifetime natural, if I can't have with what God gave me, I don't want it :)
How much do you think your abs can grow naturally ? an 1/8''
For advanced natural lifters, very little. But if you continue working them through your advanced years, the muscles become more dense. If you've got little to begin with, then they will grow substantially assuming your diet is good ect..
As someone who's been on both sides....I can see why galeniko thinks the way he does about natural training. I know it offends a lot of guys but comparing the two natural vs enhanced....you really can't.
I'm not comparing, I never would. But Gal was telling the Guy & Girl at the gym to not waste time doing abs. That's ridiculous, of course they should work abs. They probably never will again.
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Nothing more natural on this earth than good ole testosterone
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now u see why the 'ab'industry has made so much money on endless machines for every area to focus on abs,,,and they all come with the most important piece material 'the diet and meal plan 'that goes with getting the rock hard abs u always dreamed of...
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yes.
while all those models in the ads have one thing in common(and its not much muscle):
very low bodyfat.
at 5%, everyone will have brutal looking abs.
both guy/girls in those ads are in great shape and some are top fitness models print and infomercials and they sure as hell did not use the ab roller and forgot to tell the ditzy host that 'clen and t3 was used for 8wks prior to shooting this show,,,,,
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both guy/girls in those ads are in great shape and some are top fitness models print and infomercials and they sure as hell did not use the ab roller and forgot to tell the ditzy host that 'clen and t3 was used for 8wks prior to shooting this show,,,,,
remember the one that used electrical shocks and people used to put it on while eating cheese burgers ?
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remember the one that used electrical shocks and people used to put it on while eating cheese burgers ?
yeah,,lol.
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is for homasexuals and teenagers, quote this if you are down.
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yeah starving and no ped abs are great
but starving and with ped abs are awesome
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I will be lifetime natural, if I can't have with what God gave me, I don't want it :)
If you accepted nothing but what God gave you (i.e., our species' shared biological heritage), you ought to be content with death by age 40, multitudinous diseases and inborne defects that would kill most of your children, and an inability to engage in any but the most rudimentary thought (probably no mathematics or critical thinking, the sorts of computations that are only possible via the use of external, non-biological devices), among other things.
You've already failed to utilize solely what God gave you to the extent that you utilize modern technology, medicine, and external devices which assist in computations (like the computer you are currently using). This being the case, you might as well violate your principle one more time and utilize PED, because probably God won't care overmuch about how thick your abs are when reviewing your application to Heaven. ;D
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(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/arce97/220-02-2007.jpg)
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(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/arce97/02-01-2007under220.jpg)
no ped and semi diet
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Sometimes I jerk off while doing crunches. It's great.
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then i flashed my 6pack and told them to never listen to people who dont have this and walked away.
(http://varvaralamzana.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/couple_laughing_chick_with_hat_bw.jpg)
He really just did that didnt he...ahaahaha.....
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You wouldn't last two minutes in some of the gyms I have been in.
Im sure you are just trolling, no one could be such a dork in the gym.
I can imagine you strutting around trying to get in every mirror whilst dancing along to the music system when a "big tune" kicks in, flashing your abs at everyone and kissing your biceps. ;D
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never , ever work them.
and this is the result:
(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc490/hadabusa/DSC00386_zpsf72d5a20.jpg)
today in the gym, a girl and a guy trained abs, i asked them"why are you doing this clown exercise?"
i told them in order to se abs they have to eat less over long period of time.
they replied im the first one who says so.
then i flashed my 6pack and told them to never listen to people who dont have this and walked away.
Congratulations, your the biggest insecure douchebag on this site. I bet you thought you were a real alpha male clowning one some kids, lifting up your shirt and bragging about your abs. Who the fuck is this clown? ::)
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If you accepted nothing but what God gave you (i.e., our species' shared biological heritage), you ought to be content with death by age 40, multitudinous diseases and inborne defects that would kill most of your children, and an inability to engage in any but the most rudimentary thought (probably no mathematics or critical thinking, the sorts of computations that are only possible via the use of external, non-biological devices), among other things.
You've already failed to utilize solely what God gave you to the extent that you utilize modern technology, medicine, and external devices which assist in computations (like the computer you are currently using). This being the case, you might as well violate your principle one more time and utilize PED, because probably God won't care overmuch about how thick your abs are when reviewing your application to Heaven. ;D
interesting
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what kinda gyms you been in?
where theres really "big" guys?
did you like the enviroment?
did it arouse you?
No I go to gyms were people are serious about training, they train hard and keep themselves to themselves, sure there is the occasional oddball like you, but they just get ignored or ridiculed until they fuck off to DW (UK equivalent to Planet Fitness)
I really think you are trolling because surely no one could be so unaware of their own idiocy.
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I do believe in training abs, very important imo. Not side bends and silly stuff like that. Just the basics, leg raises and some crunches.
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If you accepted nothing but what God gave you (i.e., our species' shared biological heritage), you ought to be content with death by age 40, multitudinous diseases and inborne defects that would kill most of your children, and an inability to engage in any but the most rudimentary thought (probably no mathematics or critical thinking, the sorts of computations that are only possible via the use of external, non-biological devices), among other things.
You've already failed to utilize solely what God gave you to the extent that you utilize modern technology, medicine, and external devices which assist in computations (like the computer you are currently using). This being the case, you might as well violate your principle one more time and utilize PED, because probably God won't care overmuch about how thick your abs are when reviewing your application to Heaven. ;D
Sounds to me like your trying to justify your own PED usage. Also, your attempt at trying to sound smart has failed miserably.
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They are my abs in Avi BTW.
???
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31900000/Martin-Sheen-in-Apocalypse-Now-sheenism-religion-for-sheen-addicts-31913441-1222-611.png)
I don't see any abs at all, sir.
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No I go to gyms were people are serious about training, they train hard and keep themselves to themselves, sure there is the occasional oddball like you, but they just get ignored or ridiculed until they fuck off to DW (UK equivalent to Planet Fitness)
I really think you are trolling because surely no one could be so unaware of their own idiocy.
ive trained in some rough gyms in the uk, and you seem to be the odd one out, we all have a gossip at the counter, whos off the gear n looking small, who's shagging who etc etc,,,,i mean fuck me, you see all those guys 4 or 5 times a week... you make it seem like some kind of animal pack adverts, looking down between sets, growling at the weights, serious buisnesses
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ive trained in some rough gyms
Oh brother
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Oh brother
rough gyms look fun as fuck tho
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/02F6gikaYAdtg/610x.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvxkoaWWIZ1qio05ao1_500.jpg)
http://ghettogym.tumblr.com/post/17626976891/there-are-numerous-outdoor-gyms-to-be-found-in