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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Deicide on May 29, 2011, 06:57:41 AM
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Uhm, what did they do wrong? ???
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Nothing it seems. Get a good lawyer.
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Im not a big fan of this guy. I understand where the frustration comes from but I don't always agree with his tactics. He's a bit too loud and extreem for my tastes but we each have our own ways in how we express our discontent. I guess for as many people there are, there are as many ways of getting to the point of something.
Was there any explaination as to what law the ywere breaking? Do they need permits to videotape there? Are you seriously not allowed to dance there?
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Im not a big fan of this guy. I understand where the frustration comes from but I don't always agree with his tactics. He's a bit too loud and extreem for my tastes but we each have our own ways in how we express our discontent. I guess for as many people there are, there are as many ways of getting to the point of something.
Was there any explaination as to what law the ywere breaking? Do they need permits to videotape there? Are you seriously not allowed to dance there?
I thought it was asinine as well but the police went overboard.
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lets face it they got the reaction they were looking for,nothing more than a stunt.
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lets face it they got the reaction they were looking for,nothing more than a stunt.
Duh...
The issue is whether or not the reaction was appropriate.
Retard...
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Duh...
The issue is whether or not the reaction was appropriate.
Retard...
if i was there i wouldn't want to be bothered by these assholes
homo...
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if i was there i wouldn't want to be bothered by these assholes
homo...
Me either. We don't know what happened before they started taping but from what is on tape, it didn't seem justified. Now if turns out they were being dicks before the tape started, fuck 'em.
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Me either. We don't know what happened before they started taping but from what is on tape, it didn't seem justified. Now if turns out they were being dicks before the tape started, fuck 'em.
Tapes that start right in the middle of an event are usually trying to hide something.
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annoying pricks got what was coming to them. if i go to a place like that i don't want someone's retarded "protest" forced on me. respect the commons - it's not a place for people to work out their exhibitionist issues.
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Kokesh is a piece of shit...along with that code pink bitch. They got what they deserved.
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Uhm, what did they do wrong? ???
You gotta be kidding. This is a manufactured confrontation. They tried to get themselves arrested.
Can you imagine being there with your family and having those idiots disrupting the place? I would have been applauding their arrest. Bunch of morons. ::)
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i think the law was they werent allowed to protest/demonstrate in that area...if that was it then I have no problem with what the cops did. They were clearly there to demonstrate and were asked to stop or leave they didnt and they got what was coming...
LOL at the sensationalist bullshit deicide...
this thread could just have easily been called idiot liberals flaunt law and disobey police...
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i think the law was they werent allowed to protest/demonstrate in that area...if that was it then I have no problem with what the cops did. They were clearly there to demonstrate and were asked to stop or leave they didnt and they got what was coming...
LOL at the sensationalist bullshit deicide...
this thread could just have easily been called idiot liberals flaunt law and disobey police...
I said it was asinine but I don't know if what they did was illegal or not.
Adam Kokesh is an Army veteran and not a liberal btw....
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i think the law was they werent allowed to protest/demonstrate in that area...if that was it then I have no problem with what the cops did. They were clearly there to demonstrate and were asked to stop or leave they didnt and they got what was coming...
LOL at the sensationalist bullshit deicide...
this thread could just have easily been called idiot liberals flaunt law and disobey police...
republican
Adam Kokesh, anti-war Republican ;D
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He had it coming. I would have pistol whipped him and took a dump on his face.
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I said it was asinine but I don't know if what they did was illegal or not.
Adam Kokesh is an Army veteran and not a liberal btw....
dont know him either way but army vets can still be liberal my friend...
whether its legal or not, there is a place and time to defy the police and its not in the street when they are giving you orders...
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dont know him either way but army vets can still be liberal my friend...
whether its legal or not, there is a place and time to defy the police and its not in the street when they are giving you orders...
He's actually a Republican.
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You gotta be kidding. This is a manufactured confrontation. They tried to get themselves arrested.
Can you imagine being there with your family and having those idiots disrupting the place? I would have been applauding their arrest. Bunch of morons. ::)
How is this different than all of these other things going on at monuments around DC?
The Million Man March, the Tea Party Rally... All of these things are disrupting the place, but I don't see anyone getting arrested at those times.
The question simply must be asked and answered, what did this guy do that was so much different than people at those times?
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How is this different than all of these other things going on at monuments around DC?
The Million Man March, the Tea Party Rally... All of these things are disrupting the place, but I don't see anyone getting arrested at those times.
The question simply must be asked and answered, what did this guy do that was so much different than people at those times?
I was recently at the monuments around DC. There were no idiots with cameras trying to create confrontations with police. Most reasonable people looking at that clip can see those morons were trying to create a conflict.
Comparing this to a rally? ::)
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I don't see what the big deal was here.
Yeah I get it, it seems excessive. But if there IS a law against this then the police acted accordingly and were doing their jobs.
Maybe these million man marches an all that don't fall under the law as it pertains to the Jefferson memorial or they got permitts for it.
If people think the law is unjust or unpracticle or violates their first amendment rights, they can petition, file suit, contact the ACLU etc. N
Other than that there not much to this. They were warned and tried to make it like some kind of late 60's sit in for the cameras.
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I was recently at the monuments around DC. There were no idiots with cameras trying to create confrontations with police. Most reasonable people looking at that clip can see those morons were trying to create a conflict.
Comparing this to a rally? ::)
Is it not a rally of sorts?
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Apparently dancing is considered a form of demonstration in the eyes of the law. This has happened before. These were 20 folks dancing quietly at around 12:00am on a Saturday morning with no one around.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/dc/jefferson-memorial-dance-suit-dismissed-012710
A judge has dismissed a lawsuit filed by a woman who was arrested in April 2008 for dancing at the Jefferson Memorial.
U.S. District Judge John Bates stated in the court’s decision that the Park Service prohibits all demonstrations in the interior of the Jefferson Memorial, in order to maintain an "an atmosphere of calm, tranquility, and reverence,"
The lawsuit stemmed from an incident with Mary Oberwetter and friends at the Jefferson Memorial on the evening of April 12, 2008.
U.S. Park Police officers approached Oberwetter and others who were listening to music on headphones and dancing, and told them to stop.
Oberwetter refused to stop and was arrested. Charges were eventually dropped.
Oberwetter alleged that the arrest violated her right to free expression while the Park Service argued that the government has rights to regulate activities inside national memorials.
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Is it not a rally of sorts?
No. It is a group of idiots with cameras trying to create a conflict with the police, while disrupting people who are trying to enjoy themselves, some of whom traveled thousands of miles to get a taste of American history.
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No. It is a group of idiots with cameras trying to create a conflict with the police, while disrupting people who are trying to enjoy themselves, some of whom traveled thousands of miles to get a taste of American history.
Sounds kind of backwards... The people have the right to assemble... No matter how little or big.
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Sounds kind of backwards... The people have the right to assemble... No matter how little or big.
No they don't. There are all sorts of restrictions placed on First Amendment rights. People have the right to assemble if they do it in the right place, at the right, and in the right manner. They don't have the right to create a disturbance.
For example, a group of 100 people does not have the right to "assemble" inside the Smithsonian in the middle of a guided tour of an exhibit, drowning out people trying to participate in the tour.
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No they don't. There are all sorts of restrictions placed on First Amendment rights. People have the right to assemble if they do it in the right place, at the right, and in the right manner. They don't have the right to create a disturbance.
For example, a group of 100 people does not have the right to "assemble" inside the Smithsonian in the middle of a guided tour of an exhibit, drowning out people trying to participate in the tour.
But its ok for groups of thousands to crowd around the Washington monument and fuck stuff up.
Or is that only for groups you decide?
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He's actually a Republican.
republican doesnt mean conservative as im sure you know...
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But its ok for groups of thousands to crowd around the Washington monument and fuck stuff up.
Or is that only for groups you decide?
ARE YOU THAT FUKING DUMB???
the million man march and the big tea party rallies apply for AND OR!!! let the police and politicians KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE...TO AVOID CONFLICT!!!
these fucktards wanted conflict and got what they asked for, actually these tools got off extremely easy as the police they chose to DISOBEY seemed out of shape...
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ARE YOU THAT FUKING DUMB???
the million man march and the big tea party rallies apply for AND OR!!! let the police and politicians KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE...TO AVOID CONFLICT!!!
these fucktards wanted conflict and got what they asked for, actually these tools got off extremely easy as the police they chose to DISOBEY seemed out of shape...
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The cops tried to be civil, they asked them several times to stop, stupid kids didn't listen and they found themselves face down on the ground kissing the concrete, hahahah
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ARE YOU THAT FUKING DUMB???
the million man march and the big tea party rallies apply for AND OR!!! let the police and politicians KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE THERE...TO AVOID CONFLICT!!!
these fucktards wanted conflict and got what they asked for, actually these tools got off extremely easy as the police they chose to DISOBEY seemed out of shape...
Really Tony?
As much conversation as we've had, and you really want to go down the "Are you that dumb route?"
If the big rallies apply for permits and these guys didn't, then yes, I can see the antagonist nature of it and agree with making them leave.
Do you know that there were no permits?
Also, does this also mean that if someone were to protest in front of let's say the white house that they should be forcibly removed?
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But its ok for groups of thousands to crowd around the Washington monument and fuck stuff up.
Or is that only for groups you decide?
Yes it's o.k. They get permission. They find out what's appropriate and what is not. They follow the rules.
These particular people were looking for conflict. They got what they deserved.
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Really Tony?
As much conversation as we've had, and you really want to go down the "Are you that dumb route?"
If the big rallies apply for permits and these guys didn't, then yes, I can see the antagonist nature of it and agree with making them leave.
Do you know that there were no permits?
Also, does this also mean that if someone were to protest in front of let's say the white house that they should be forcibly removed?
LOL my apologies tu, youre right it was over the line especially with you...
but it seems like a pretty logical jump to me bro.
I thinki its pretty obvious they had no permits, the video is obviously meant to show the police in a bad light and if they had a permit it certainly would have been shown .
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the video is obviously meant to show the police in a bad light and if they had a permit it certainly would have been shown .
This may very well be the case... I generally think cops do enough to do that on their own and don't need any assistance.
Also, I agree with BF... As the tape started in the middle... They are most likely trying to hide something.
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This may very well be the case... I generally think cops do enough to do that on their own and don't need any assistance.
Also, I agree with BF... As the tape started in the middle... They are most likely trying to hide something.
my whole deal is ppl like to rag on the police as if everyone of them is shady, many are...most arent...lets not throw the baby out with the bath water...
I think that legit incidents that need to be looked into get trivialized with bs like this.
Ive known a number of police officers in my personal life and there are a few that I wouldnt really trust but the vast majority are honest, trustworthy ppl.
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my whole deal is ppl like to rag on the police as if everyone of them is shady, many are...most arent...lets not throw the baby out with the bath water...
I think that legit incidents that need to be looked into get trivialized with bs like this.
Ive known a number of police officers in my personal life and there are a few that I wouldnt really trust but the vast majority are honest, trustworthy ppl.
I would say most are "average"... As in I would trust them as much as I would trust anyone else... Which really isn't a lot.
That's not really the point... If we're sticking to the clip here, then I agree that most likely they were just trying to cause a ruckus and were dealt with.