Trump = Winning

[Board_SHERIF]

Ok, we finally got some #winning here.  This counts as winning right?  RIGHT?   Oh wait... no, not #winning for Trumpy.  Ooops.  Sorry about that, getting your hopes up and all.

The Republicans are correct that there were and are widespread efforts to interfere with our elections. What they are not saying is that the evidence shows those acts are being committed by Trumpy and the Republican party.  Can you imagine how miserable the Trumpturds truly are?  They cheated and still lost.  And got caught.   


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Judge Dismisses Donald Trump’s “Big Lie” Defamation Lawsuit Against CNN

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Judge+Dismisses+Donald+Trump%E2%80%99s+%E2%80%9CBig+Lie%E2%80%9D+Defamation+Lawsuit+Against+CNN
A federal judge dismissed Donald Trump’s $475 million defamation lawsuit against CNN, litigation centered on references made by on-air figures to “the Big Lie,” or the former president’s unfounded claims that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him.

Trump had argued in his lawsuit, filed in federal court in Florida, that the references to the phrase were defamatory as they created a “false and incendiary association” between him and Adolf Hitler.

U.S. District Judge Raag Singhal wrote that CNN’s references to the term “the Big Lie” were matters of opinion, not fact.

The judge wrote, “Trump complains that CNN described his election challenges as ‘the Big Lie.’ Trump argues that ‘the Big Lie’ is a phrase attributed to Joseph Goebbels and that CNN’s use of the phrase wrongly links Trump with the Hitler regime in the public eye. This is a stacking of inferences that cannot support a finding of falsehood.”

The lawsuit cited five examples of the use of the term “The Big Lie” or election lies that Trump’s attorneys say the network has refused to retract. They including a January 25, 2021, CNN opinion article by Ruth Ben-Ghiat; July 5 and September 15 pieces by Chris Cillizza; a January 16 reference to “the Big Lie” by Jake Tapper on State of the Union; and another Cillizza piece from February 11. But the lawsuit also takes issue with other moments on CNN when guests made the comparison to Trump and Hitler, including one made by Linda Ronstadt during an interview with Anderson Cooper in 2019.

In Singhal’s opinion (read it here, hat tip Politico), he wrote that he found that “Nazi references in the political discourse (made by whichever ‘side’) to be odious and repugnant. But bad rhetoric is not defamation when it does not include false statements of fact. CNN’s use of the phrase “the Big Lie” in connection with Trump’s election challenges does not give rise to a plausible inference that Trump advocates the persecution and genocide of Jews or any other group of people. No reasonable viewer
could (or should) plausibly make that reference.”

Trump had asked the judge to reconsider New York Times vs. Sullivan, the Supreme Court precedent that has guided defamation law for almost 60 years. Singhal, a Trump appointee, said he could not do so because of that precedent and other rulings, but he seemed to express some sympathy with Trump over the state of the news media.

He wrote in his ruling, “The problem is essentially two-fold. First, the complained of statements are
opinion, not factually false statements, and therefore are not actionable. Second, the reasonable viewer, unlike when Sullivan, Butts or Gertz were decided, no longer takes the time to research and verify reporting that often is not, in fact, news.

The judge continued, “As an example, only one month ago, the United States Supreme Court issued a well written 237-page joint opinion with vastly divergent views in two cases known widely as the Affirmative Action decisions. Within minutes of the release of the opinion, the free press had reported just what the opinion supposedly said and meant although it was clearly impossible that the reporter had read the opinion. And of course, those initial news articles were repeatedly shared, commented upon and disseminated over social media and still to this day the reasonable viewer very likely hasn’t read the opinion and never will. This is the news model of today. It is far different than that in Sullivan which altered law that existed for 175 years and has spawned a cottage industry over the last 60. But this too is not actionable.”
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[LurkerNoMore]

Well the gay muslim pedo worshipper sure didn't stick around long.          End of the month, running out of minutes on the prepaid internet card and all.... having to consolidate and spread all the stupid posts over a variety of gimmicks until the refresher drops  Aug 1st.   Such is life in a shithold country.


Oh.... you know what else didn't stick around long either?   That $475M lawsuit against CNN by Trumpy.

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A federal judge in Florida on Friday dismissed a $475 million defamation lawsuit former President Donald Trump brought against CNN that accused the network of defaming him by using the phrase “the big lie” and allegedly comparing him to Adolf Hitler.

District Judge Raag Singhal, a 2019 appointee of Trump’s, said that use of the phrase or similar statements are opinion that don’t meet the standard for defamation.

“CNN’s use of the phrase ‘the Big Lie’ in connection with Trump’s election challenges does not give rise to a plausible inference that Trump advocates the persecution and genocide of Jews or any other group of people. No reasonable viewer could (or should) plausibly make that reference,” Singhal wrote.
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[The Gov]

Well the gay muslim pedo worshipper sure didn't stick around long.          End of the month, running out of minutes on the prepaid internet card and all.... having to consolidate and spread all the stupid posts over a variety of gimmicks until the refresher drops  Aug 1st.   Such is life in a shithold country.


Oh.... you know what else didn't stick around long either?   That $475M lawsuit against CNN by Trumpy.

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A federal judge in Florida on Friday dismissed a $475 million defamation lawsuit former President Donald Trump brought against CNN that accused the network of defaming him by using the phrase “the big lie” and allegedly comparing him to Adolf Hitler.

District Judge Raag Singhal, a 2019 appointee of Trump’s, said that use of the phrase or similar statements are opinion that don’t meet the standard for defamation.

“CNN’s use of the phrase ‘the Big Lie’ in connection with Trump’s election challenges does not give rise to a plausible inference that Trump advocates the persecution and genocide of Jews or any other group of people. No reasonable viewer could (or should) plausibly make that reference,” Singhal wrote.
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[LurkerNoMore]

Board Gov sheriff
you should practice better gimmicking

Don't be mean.  It just shows he loves me twice as much.  Or 3x as much if you count the other one he uses too.   

[LurkerNoMore]

Nothing that 81+ Million of us didn't already know.

What do you expect from the founder of Trump University?   

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"Incandescently stupid": Former DHS official says he had to "dumb" down classified memos for Trump

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22Incandescently+stupid%22%3A+Former+DHS+official+says+he+had+to+%22dumb%22+down+classified+memos+for+Trump

Miles Taylor, who served as chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security under Donald Trump, shared how he often had to over simplfy national security reports for the former president.

"This fifty-page memo that we would normally give to any other president about what his options are is something Trump literally can't read. The man doesn't read. We've gotta boil this down into a one-pager in his voice," Taylor told podcast host Brett Meiselas on Tuesday. "And so I had to write this incandescently stupid memo called something like, 'Afghanistan, How to Put America First and Win.' And then bullet by bullet, I summed up this highly classified memo into Trump's sort of bombastic language because it was the only way he was gonna understand," Taylor added. "I mean, I literally said in there, 'You know, if we leave Afghanistan too fast, the terrorists will call us losers. But if we wanna be seen as winners, we need to make sure the Afghan forces have the strength to push back against these criminals.' I mean, it was that dumb and that's how you had to talk to him."

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[LurkerNoMore]

It must be from one of Trumpy's third tier team lawyers trying to kill the investigation / incoming indictment before the state has even revealed the evidence and charges.   

I guess spending that $40 Million of legal fees in only 7 months this year hasn't been enough to buy injustice.  When it drops, his Orangeness is going to go on an unhinged social media meltdown of epic proportions.      It is going to be great.

Good times!!!!

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"Is Trump tired of losing yet?": Judge torches Trump lawyers over desperate bid to block Ga. charges

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22Is+Trump+tired+of+losing+yet%3F%22%3A+Judge+torches+Trump+lawyers+over+desperate+bid+to+block+Ga.+charges

A Georgia state judge on Monday rejected former President Donald Trump's bid to halt Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' grand jury investigation into his efforts to challenge the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election.

Fulton County Superior Judge Robert McBurney, who has provided oversight for Willis' probe for more than a year, stated in a lengthy ruling that Trump and his legal team can't do anything to quash the probe since he has not been charged.

"[W]hile being the subject (or even target) of a highly publicized criminal investigation is likely an unwelcome and unpleasant experience, no court ever has held that that status alone provides a basis for the courts to interfere with or halt the investigation," McBurney wrote.
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[Primemuscle]

It must be from one of Trumpy's third tier team lawyers trying to kill the investigation / incoming indictment before the state has even revealed the evidence and charges.   

I guess spending that $40 Million of legal fees in only 7 months this year hasn't been enough to buy injustice.  When it drops, his Orangeness is going to go on an unhinged social media meltdown of epic proportions.      It is going to be great.

Good times!!!!

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"Is Trump tired of losing yet?": Judge torches Trump lawyers over desperate bid to block Ga. charges

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22Is+Trump+tired+of+losing+yet%3F%22%3A+Judge+torches+Trump+lawyers+over+desperate+bid+to+block+Ga.+charges

A Georgia state judge on Monday rejected former President Donald Trump's bid to halt Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis' grand jury investigation into his efforts to challenge the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election.

Fulton County Superior Judge Robert McBurney, who has provided oversight for Willis' probe for more than a year, stated in a lengthy ruling that Trump and his legal team can't do anything to quash the probe since he has not been charged.

"[W]hile being the subject (or even target) of a highly publicized criminal investigation is likely an unwelcome and unpleasant experience, no court ever has held that that status alone provides a basis for the courts to interfere with or halt the investigation," McBurney wrote.
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As the indictments against Trump mount, one wonders if he loses any of these cases can he be pardoned? Apparently, there are three ways Trump could be pardoned: by a state executive, by the current president or by himself. Imagine if Biden pardoned Trump? Wouldn't that be a hoot!

Trump currently faces actual or potential criminal charges in two states, New York, and Georgia. He has been indicted by a Manhattan grand jury on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records under New York law. The only pertinent pardon power related to the NY charges belongs to New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, a Democrat, who is unlikely to agree to pardon him.

Trump would have to convince a five-member Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles to get a pardon. Georgia’s Republican Gov. Brian Kemp has the power to appoint members, subject to confirmation by the state Senate. In Georgia, Trump could only apply for a pardon after he is indicted and convicted, and only after five additional years have passed since completion of his sentence. If I were Trump, I would find this a bit worrisome.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/02/donald-trump-pardon-00094636

[Agnostic007]

Nothing that 81+ Million of us didn't already know.

What do you expect from the founder of Trump University?   

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"Incandescently stupid": Former DHS official says he had to "dumb" down classified memos for Trump

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=%22Incandescently+stupid%22%3A+Former+DHS+official+says+he+had+to+%22dumb%22+down+classified+memos+for+Trump

Miles Taylor, who served as chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security under Donald Trump, shared how he often had to over simplfy national security reports for the former president.

"This fifty-page memo that we would normally give to any other president about what his options are is something Trump literally can't read. The man doesn't read. We've gotta boil this down into a one-pager in his voice," Taylor told podcast host Brett Meiselas on Tuesday. "And so I had to write this incandescently stupid memo called something like, 'Afghanistan, How to Put America First and Win.' And then bullet by bullet, I summed up this highly classified memo into Trump's sort of bombastic language because it was the only way he was gonna understand," Taylor added. "I mean, I literally said in there, 'You know, if we leave Afghanistan too fast, the terrorists will call us losers. But if we wanna be seen as winners, we need to make sure the Afghan forces have the strength to push back against these criminals.' I mean, it was that dumb and that's how you had to talk to him."

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It's cool to see what you think had to happen actually happened. There was no way a guy of Trumps intellect was going to comprehend the normal briefings... it's just sad a man of that IQ level convinced enough people he was competent enough to do the job.

[LurkerNoMore]

It's cool to see what you think had to happen actually happened. There was no way a guy of Trumps intellect was going to comprehend the normal briefings... it's just sad a man of that IQ level convinced enough people he was competent enough to do the job.

Well all he had to do was convince his supporters.  And as I have said many many times, they are dumber than Trumpy.

[B_B_C]

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"This fifty-page memo that we would normally give to any other president about what his options are is something Trump literally can't read. The man doesn't read. We've gotta boil this down into a one-pager in his voice,"
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There is nothing very intelligent in presenting 50 pages when one or two will do
Mr Trump is far better at communication than you and the condescending Mike Taylor realize

[LurkerNoMore]

"While trump commits crimes,  Biden's economy is booming-

472,000 jobs added in January 348,000 in February 317,000 in March 294,000 in April 369,000 in May 498,000+ in June.
3.6% unemployment rate, down from trump's 6.7% in January 2021.
Average annual growth of 4.3% during the past two years as measured by GDP, with a 1.3% expansion registered in Q1 2023 alone. Trump never hit 3% annual GDP ONCE !!!"

[loco]

"Yet despite the stop-the-steal movement, the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade and the numerous investigations facing Trump, Biden and Trump are still tied, each at 43%, among registered voters in the first New York Times/Siena poll of the 2024 election cycle."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/race-really-close-yes-biden-114621647.html

[Dos Equis]

"Yet despite the stop-the-steal movement, the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade and the numerous investigations facing Trump, Biden and Trump are still tied, each at 43%, among registered voters in the first New York Times/Siena poll of the 2024 election cycle."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/race-really-close-yes-biden-114621647.html

 

[B_B_C]

The Republican Primaries are a waste of time and effort.

Just how many entitled voters believe: Mr Trump has done nothing wrong and should be supported in his legal battles;  oppose help to Ukraine; do not want  Social Security & Medicare reforms; dislike free trade; hate transgender people  and  like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Other than Mr Trump all the other candidates apart from perhaps the fat guy are variously but not exclusivly bush clones. rinos with out horns, mealy mouthed  flim flam floppers cowards unable/unwilling to challenge him openly

Vesti la giubba

[Coach is Back!]

"Yet despite the stop-the-steal movement, the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade and the numerous investigations facing Trump, Biden and Trump are still tied, each at 43%, among registered voters in the first New York Times/Siena poll of the 2024 election cycle."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/race-really-close-yes-biden-114621647.html

😂

[illuminati]

It's cool to see what you think had to happen actually happened. There was no way a guy of Trumps intellect was going to comprehend the normal briefings... it's just sad a man of that IQ level convinced enough people he was competent enough to do the job.

"it's just sad a man of that IQ level convinced 88+ Million People enough that he was competent enough to do the job."

Yes you Voted for Pedo Pete & Laugh girl Kamel Toe Harris 
Wel Done 

[LurkerNoMore]

Interesting scenario.  It would be hilarious to watch play out.

"That defense has a big hole in it. Trump received a LOT of fact-based council when his ENTIRE sane legal team talked him off of multiple cliffs when Trump was ready to launch the insane plan with Jefferey Clark.  Giuliani, Powell and Eastman were outside lawyers Trump brought in. Government lawyers (Barr for one) told him there was no election fraud.  Trump took the advice he wanted to hear and ignored the advice he didn't want to hear."

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Trump’s Plan to Save Himself: Scapegoat His Coup Lawyers

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Trump%E2%80%99s+Plan+to+Save+Himself%3A+Scapegoat+His+Coup+Lawyers
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[Agnostic007]

"it's just sad a man of that IQ level convinced 88+ Million People enough that he was competent enough to do the job."

Yes you Voted for Pedo Pete & Laugh girl Kamel Toe Harris 
Wel Done 

It is almost as sad that Joe Biden was the only choice other than Trump. Would make that same choice again and again..

[illuminati]

It is almost as sad that Joe Biden was the only choice other than Trump. Would make that same choice again and again..

Good for you 👍🏻,  & Pedo Pete's intellect will just keep on decreasing & his followers
Will Keep on voting for him.

Says so much about how high their intellect is & yet they criticise & look down on others.
Brilliant- you really couldn't make it up. Fact is stranger than fiction.

[Agnostic007]

Good for you 👍🏻,  & Pedo Pete's intellect will just keep on decreasing & his followers
Will Keep on voting for him.

Says so much about how high their intellect is & yet they criticise & look down on others.
Brilliant- you really couldn't make it up. Fact is stranger than fiction.

I don't know if anyone here is well versed on facts or not, sometimes I wonder, but yeah.. I'm personally not looking forward to 4 more years of Biden, but if it keeps Trump out of office, I will live with it.

I can only speak for myself, why I prefer Biden, and I have listed the reasons here on a few occasions. So far, nothing I've seen, read or heard has changed that.

I'll just leave this here to read at your convenience.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2020/06/15/biden-vs-trump-the-college-education-divide-may-be-wider-than-ever/?sh=7582a6d27999

This one is in honor of Coach who loves to post Gateway Pundit and Breitbart articles...

https://www.salon.com/2022/03/23/new-research-on-voters-theyre-not-the-sharpest-tools-in-the-box/

Here is PEW which is pretty reliable..

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/

Education
Share of Democratic voters with no college experience has fallen sharply; much less change among the GOP
Around two-thirds of registered voters in the U.S. (65%) do not have a college degree, while 36% do. But the share of voters with a college degree has risen substantially since 1996, when 24% had one.

Voters who identify with the Democratic Party or lean toward it are much more likely than their Republican counterparts to have a college degree (41% vs. 30%). In 1996, the reverse was true: 27% of GOP voters had a college degree, compared with 22% of Democratic voters.

[Coach is Back!]

"While trump commits crimes,  Biden's economy is booming-

472,000 jobs added in January 348,000 in February 317,000 in March 294,000 in April 369,000 in May 498,000+ in June.
3.6% unemployment rate, down from trump's 6.7% in January 2021.
Average annual growth of 4.3% during the past two years as measured by GDP, with a 1.3% expansion registered in Q1 2023 alone. Trump never hit 3% annual GDP ONCE !!!"

Hahahahahahaha….yes, it explains last weeks rate hike for like the 1000th time this year😂😂😂😂

[illuminati]

I don't know if anyone here is well versed on facts or not, sometimes I wonder, but yeah.. I'm personally not looking forward to 4 more years of Biden, but if it keeps Trump out of office, I will live with it.

I can only speak for myself, why I prefer Biden, and I have listed the reasons here on a few occasions. So far, nothing I've seen, read or heard has changed that.

I'll just leave this here to read at your convenience.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2020/06/15/biden-vs-trump-the-college-education-divide-may-be-wider-than-ever/?sh=7582a6d27999

This one is in honor of Coach who loves to post Gateway Pundit and Breitbart articles...

https://www.salon.com/2022/03/23/new-research-on-voters-theyre-not-the-sharpest-tools-in-the-box/

Here is PEW which is pretty reliable..

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/

Education
Share of Democratic voters with no college experience has fallen sharply; much less change among the GOP
Around two-thirds of registered voters in the U.S. (65%) do not have a college degree, while 36% do. But the share of voters with a college degree has risen substantially since 1996, when 24% had one.

Voters who identify with the Democratic Party or lean toward it are much more likely than their Republican counterparts to have a college degree (41% vs. 30%). In 1996, the reverse was true: 27% of GOP voters had a college degree, compared with 22% of Democratic voters.

Maybe a 2 party system is the real problem?
or add in proportion representation?

There definitely has to be far better political systems.
Having 2 parties slagging each other off & refuting everything the other party
Says or does hardly seems a beneficial system for people or country.

I'm not sure what your trying to get at with the college degrees,
Many of the wealthiest men in the world haven’t a college degree & by what you're
Inferring it seems they All should have.

[Agnostic007]

Maybe a 2 party system is the real problem?
or add in proportion representation?

There definitely has to be far better political systems.
Having 2 parties slagging each other off & refuting everything the other party
Says or does hardly seems a beneficial system for people or country.

I'm not sure what your trying to get at with the college degrees,
Many of the wealthiest men in the world haven’t a college degree & by what you're
Inferring it seems they All should have.

Fair question.. You inferred in a recent post you had questions about Bidens supporters IQ's. While there is no IQ table that I know of to review, there are some tables with breakdowns of various things about each candidates supporters. I personally don't care to do such a thing but you threw down the gauntlet and I looked at demographics that were available and I found that there was no information to support Bidens supporters had a lower intellect than Trump supporters and found the opposite. It's not even an argument I am comfortable making because IQ and intellect doesn't always equate to common sense and good judgement. But since you alleged it, I looked into it. I don't have a college degree, full discolsure, some college but I was not a fan of school and had no desire to continue it. I love to read, and that's what I focused on

[illuminati]

Fair question.. You inferred in a recent post you had questions about Bidens supporters IQ's. While there is no IQ table that I know of to review, there are some tables with breakdowns of various things about each candidates supporters. I personally don't care to do such a thing but you threw down the gauntlet and I looked at demographics that were available and I found that there was no information to support Bidens supporters had a lower intellect than Trump supporters and found the opposite. It's not even an argument I am comfortable making because IQ and intellect doesn't always equate to common sense and good judgement. But since you alleged it, I looked into it. I don't have a college degree, full discolsure, some college but I was not a fan of school and had no desire to continue it. I love to read, and that's what I focused on

You alleged Trump supporter were not to clever
With you remark to LurkingForBoys about remember your audience.

You completely missed the 2 party system
& why aren't all billionaires college graduates- oh well those clearly don't sit well with you
or fit your agenda.

[Agnostic007]

You alleged Trump supporter were not to clever
With you remark to LurkingForBoys about remember your audience.

You completely missed the 2 party system
& why aren't all billionaires college graduates- oh well those clearly don't sit well with you
or fit your agenda.

Ok...The two party system.. There are a few youtube videos that explain why expanding the two party system won't work. I admit it has been 3 years or more since I watched them but they made sense. Berfore watching them I was in the "we need another party or two" camp. After watching those I understood they wouldn't matter. I would love other options, and it seems the likely answer, but in reality, probably won't change anything