Trump = Winning

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Bank Executive Destroys New York’s Case Against Trump in Loan Case: ‘Not Unusual’

A Deutsche Bank AG executive told a court in New York on Tuesday that it is not unusual for loan clients to overstate their net worth, and that the bank does its own due diligence in determining eligibility for loans.

Another executive testified that the bank had benefited from its business relationship with Trump and had wanted to continue that relationship — all of which runs against Attorney General Letitia James’s civil fraud case against Trump: there was no one harmed by alleged overestimates of his worth.

Trump faces the first case ever brought in New York in which a borrower is being sued for fraud when no one is claiming actual harm. The state is seeking a $250 million fine against Trump, and wants him to be forced to give up control of his businesses.

Judge Arthur Engoron, an elected Democrat, issued a summary judgment that Trump was liable before Trump was ever able to mount a defense. The current phase of the trial is simply about the penalty. But it is undermining the state’s basic allegations.

Bloomberg News reported:

David Williams, who worked on at least one of three loans Deutsche Bank made to Trump in the years before he was elected president, testified Tuesday that it’s “atypical, but not entirely unusual” for the bank to cut a client’s stated asset value by 50% and approve a loan anyway, as it did with Trump.

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Deutsche Bank, which loaned Trump hundreds of millions of dollars for properties in Miami, Chicago and Washington, cut his stated net worth in 2011 and 2012 from about $4.2 billion to $2.3 billion when evaluating his loan requests, according to internal bank credit memos used as evidence in the case. The same documents show the bank approved the loans anyway because it expected them to generate a profit based on Trump’s history of successful developments and other criteria.

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“As part of our due diligence, we subject a client’s asset value to adjustments,” Williams said. “It’s part of our underwriting process we apply it to every client regardless of what’s reported.”

Legal scholar Jonathan Turley of George Washington University observed:

The evidence shows that banks made money on these loans, which were paid off either early or on time. In fact, none of the banks complained about the Trump organization’s estimations, which were accompanied by a warning that the banks should not rely on those estimates.

Moreover, James is seeking to kill a corporation once viewed as iconic in New York, not just by denying the certificates for the Trumps to do business in the city but by imposing $250 million in penalties for money that no one actually lost.

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Justice Engoron seemed irritated by the testimony, however, and when Trump counsel asked why the bank was so eager to secure future loans, Engoron snapped back: “They’re trying to make money. Why wouldn’t they be interested?”

Trump has said that the civil case against him, like federal criminal cases in Florida and Washington, DC, and state criminal cases in New York and Georgia, are simply motivated by politics.

James was elected on a specific promise to use the courts to pursue Trump.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/12/01/bank-executive-destroys-new-yorks-case-against-trump-in-loan-case-not-unusual/

[LurkerNoMore]

hahahahaha well that didn't take long.  Someone should check his BP.

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The GOP’s presidential front-runner had himself a bit of an unhinged social media binge over the last couple of days, using Truth Social to air his scattered grievances, attack the wife of the judge overseeing his New York bank fraud trial, and take a wild left turn by claiming sudden allyship with the broader Black Lives Matter movement.

Kicking off the rapid-fire onslaught of posts late Tuesday, Trump called MSNBC’s coverage of the Republican Party “illegal activity,” adding that the “so-called ‘government’ should come down hard” on the news outlet and “make them pay.”

Then the former president revived an old gripe that “Obamacare sucks”—thus reopening the possibility that his campaign will renew the call to “repeal and replace” the Affordable Care Act that has dogged the GOP since that law’s inception. Less than 20 minutes later, he redirected his attention to the sexual assault allegations made against him by columnist E. Jean Carroll, spewing comments eerily similar to the ones that have already lost him two defamation cases brought by the writer, in which he claimed that the allegations were a “made up fairytale” that was “funded by political operatives” to interfere with the 2020 presidential election results.

Over the ensuing hours, Trump also warned that the indictments against him had opened up “pandora’s box,” which he followed by snubbing his Koch-backed GOP opponent Nikki Haley as “a very weak and ineffective Birdbrain.”

In yet another post, Trump said he had done “more for Black people than any other President,” including Lincoln. He also confused the support of Mark Fisher, the founder of Black Lives Matter Incorporated, for that of the larger, national movement, despite statements front and center on BLM INC.’s web page that they’re not affiliated with “any other Black Lives Matter Movement.”

But the pièce de résistance of Trump’s 48-hour digital diatribe was a string of attacks on the wife of the judge overseeing his business fraud trial, Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, whose gag order on Trump had been repealed. In five separate posts, Trump uplifted a conspiracy theory that Dawn Engoron and her husband were inherently biased in his case and that Mrs. Engoron had attacked Trump and other “white male politicians” online.

“Judge Engoron’s Trump Hating wife, together with his very disturbed and angry law clerk, have taken over control of the New York State Witch Hunt Trial aimed at me, my family, and the Republican Party,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

In a statement to Newsweek, Engoron denied ownership of the account and any of its content.

“I do not have a Twitter account. This is not me. I have not posted any anti-Trump messages,” she told the outlet.

That may have been enough to convince a New York appeals court that Trump wasn’t capable of playing nice without his recently stayed gag order, which the four-judge panel dutifully reinstated on Thursday, in an attempt to halt the verbal onslaught against the judge, his court staff and, apparently, his family.
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[LurkerNoMore]

#winning

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US appeals court says Trump must face lawsuits over US Capitol attack
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=US+appeals+court+says+Trump+must+face+lawsuits+over+US+Capitol+attack

A U.S. appeals court on Friday ruled that Donald Trump must face civil lawsuits over his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by his supporters, rejecting the former president's claim that he is immune.

A panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit found that Trump was acting "in his personal capacity as a presidential candidate" when he urged his supporters to march to the Capitol on the day of the riot. U.S. presidents are immune from civil lawsuits only for official actions.

The ruling clears the way for Trump to face lawsuits from U.S. Capitol police officers and Democratic lawmakers seeking to hold Trump responsible for the violence by his supporters during the riot, which was an attempt to overturn his 2020 election defeat.

The case is one of several civil and criminal challenges facing the frontrunner for the Republican nomination to challenge Democratic President Joe Biden in the 2024 election.

The unanimous decision focused only on whether Trump could be sued, and said nothing about the merits of the cases themselves.

Trump argued that his speech exhorting his followers to "fight like hell" against the certification of the election was related to a "matter of public concern" and fell within his official responsibilities.
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[Primemuscle]

No Tiny Tony, we are denying that YOU came into America illegally.
And denying that YOU were at the Capitol on Jan 6th.
And denying that YOU flew to South America and then snuck across the border illegally. 

One thing that we don't deny is that YOU are a pathetically compulsive liar.

These are all good points. Plus I never denied that people cross borders illegally both in the U.S. and elsewhere in the world. If the U.S. had 'open borders' as Tony seems to think we do, all crossings would be pretty much legal since there would be no points of entry and folks could come and go as they wish without fear of being caught.

I halfway expected Tony to claim he floated over from GB on a raft since air travel isn't a possibility without a passport.   

[LurkerNoMore]

These are all good points. Plus I never denied that people cross borders illegally both in the U.S. and elsewhere in the world. If the U.S. had 'open borders' as Tony seems to think we do, all crossings would be pretty much legal since there would be no points of entry and folks could come and go as they wish without fear of being caught.

I halfway expected Tony to claim he floated over from GB on a raft since air travel isn't a possibility without a passport.   

Maybe he hitched a ride on a Chinese weather balloon.

Funny thing is that he sure hasn't come back to address any of these preposterous claims.  As usual.

[LurkerNoMore]

Whooops!  The court says that Trumpy does not have a life time get out of jail free card.  Therefore, the lawsuits against him in regards to Jan 6th can proceed.   

As was posted prior :
FACTS:
**Never in the history of America has any perp beaten 91 felony indictments. Not Al Capone. Not Jon Gotti, The DOJ has a 95% or better conviction rate.

**Trump was NOT indicted by Jack Smith. Trump was NOT indicted by Alvin Bragg, Trump was NOT indicted by Fani Willis.

**Trump was indicted by 4 separate Grand Juries comprised of ordinary citizens in 4 different jurisdictions in 4 different States,

**No president can pardon anyone on state charges. Trump is facing state charges in both NY and Georgia.

**Nor can the Republican governor of Georgia pardon Trump or any of his 18 co-conspirators.

**Lastly, in the state of Georgia, anyone convicted of a major felony must serve a minimum of 5 years in prison before they can even be considered for parole, which would be death sentence for Trump.


I guess you know what that means?  Yep, that's right.  Time to GRIFT some more.  Come on morons, send more $$$.
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Donald Trump does not have immunity from criminal charges for actions he took as president, a U.S. judge ruled on Friday, rejecting his bid to toss out the case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith accusing him of unlawfully trying to overturn his 2020 election loss.

U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan found no legal basis for concluding that presidents cannot face criminal charges once they are no longer in office. Trump, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination to challenge Democratic President Joe Biden in the 2024 U.S. election, served from 2017 to 2021.

"Whatever immunities a sitting president may enjoy, the United States has only one chief executive at a time, and that position does not confer a lifelong 'get-out-of-jail-free' pass," Chutkan wrote in her ruling.

Because Trump is the first current or former U.S. president to face criminal charges, Chutkan's ruling is the first by a U.S. court affirming that presidents can be charged with crimes like any other citizen.

The judge also rejected Trump's argument that the charges violate his free speech rights under the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment. Trump's lawyers had argued that the case by Smith "attempts to criminalize core political speech and political advocacy."

Todd Blanche, a lawyer for Trump, declined to comment on the ruling.

Chutkan's ruling brings Trump a step closer to facing a jury on charges that he plotted to interfere in the counting of electoral votes and obstruct congressional certification of Biden's victory. Trump has pleaded not guilty and accused prosecutors of attempting to damage his campaign.

The trial is scheduled to begin in March. Trump can immediately appeal the ruling, which potentially could delay the trial while an appeals court and potentially the Supreme Court weigh the issue.

Trump has additional pending legal motions to dismiss the case based on other claims including that his conduct as alleged by prosecutors does not fit the charges they brought. In addition to the case being pursued by Smith, Trump also faces state criminal charges in Georgia related to his actions seeking to undo his 2020 defeat and two other indictments. He has pleaded not guilty in those cases as well.

The U.S. Justice Department long has had an internal policy not to indict a sitting president, but prosecutors said no such restrictions exist once a president leaves the White House.

Trump's lawyers had made a sweeping claim that he is "absolutely immune" from charges arising from official actions he took as president, arguing that political opponents could use the threat of criminal prosecution to interfere with a president's responsibilities.

His defense team argued that the immunity U.S. presidents have from civil lawsuits should extend to criminal charges.

Prosecutors contended that Trump's argument would essentially put the U.S. president above the law, violating foundational principles of the Constitution.
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[Coach is Back!]

Obama appointed “Judge” in DC…..lol

[LurkerNoMore]

Obama appointed “Judge” in DC…..lol

Retarded excuse.   LOL

[Agnostic007]

Obama appointed “Judge” in DC…..lol

So explain to me, why a Supreme Court, with more Trump appointed "Judges" than it really should have been allowed to have if the Republicans followed their own reasoning.... has failed to come to Trumps rescue if all judges appointed by either Trump or Obama are obviously politically motivated?

[Gym Rat]

So explain to me, why a Supreme Court, with more Trump appointed "Judges" than it really should have been allowed to have if the Republicans followed their own reasoning.... has failed to come to Trumps rescue if all judges appointed by either Trump or Obama are obviously politically motivated?

No one needs to explain anything to anyone.... Fuck face kvnt... 

[LurkerNoMore]

So explain to me, why a Supreme Court, with more Trump appointed "Judges" than it really should have been allowed to have if the Republicans followed their own reasoning.... has failed to come to Trumps rescue if all judges appointed by either Trump or Obama are obviously politically motivated?

Do you really think he is cognitive enough to understand your question, let alone formulate an answer?

Let me guess :

"lol.... oh boy"

[illuminati]

Pedo Pant Shitter Joe for President - Ahhh he already is 
Maybe that's why America is in such Turmoil & Fucked up.

Pedo Supporters are Good Peoples - NOT

[Primemuscle]

Obama appointed “Judge” in DC…..lol

How interesting is it that you think President's nominating judges is a laughing matter. Obama was the President and Presidents nominate judges which are then confirmed or not by the U.S. Senate. In his single term in office Trump nominated 465 judges, 4 of which were U.S. Supreme Court justices. Obama who was President for 8 years nominated 656 judges. So far, 121 of the Judges Biden nominated have been appointed by the U.S. Senate. Additionally, he nominated 62 judges which have not yet been appointed.

[Coach is Back!]

How interesting is it that you think President's nominating judges is a laughing matter. Obama was the President and Presidents nominate judges which are then confirmed or not by the U.S. Senate. In his single term in office Trump nominated 465 judges, 4 of which were U.S. Supreme Court justices. Obama who was President for 8 years nominated 656 judges. So far, 121 of the Judges Biden nominated have been appointed by the U.S. Senate. Additionally, he nominated 62 judges which have not yet been appointed.

Obviously my reply went right over your head

[Primemuscle]

Obviously my reply went right over your head

How so? Judge Cutkan is one of many he nominated. Is Obama a psychic and therefore knew Trump would get this judge. Judge Chutkan was nominated to serve as a federal judge in 2013. The following year, she won confirmation in a 95-0 vote by the Senate.
 
Do you know how a judge is assigned a case? The usual practice is that judges are randomly selected. This is how judge Chutkan came to be the judge in Trump’s DC trial. That Obama nominated her is irrelevant.

[Coach is Back!]

How so? Judge Cutkan is one of many he nominated. Is Obama a psychic and therefore knew Trump would get this judge. Judge Chutkan was nominated to serve as a federal judge in 2013. The following year, she won confirmation in a 95-0 vote by the Senate.
 
Do you know how a judge is assigned a case? The usual practice is that judges are randomly selected. This is how judge Chutkan came to be the judge in Trump’s DC trial. That Obama nominated her is irrelevant.

So before I say why…you’re just naive? Refuse to see the obvious? Or just because it’s Trump is doesn’t matter?

[Primemuscle]

So before I say why…you’re just naive? Refuse to see the obvious? Or just because it’s Trump is doesn’t matter?

Say whatever you want. What is obvious. It didn't matter that it was Trump who was going to be tried. What do you not understand about the term random selection? You would have felt this way about any judge.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon a Supreme Court justice in Florida was also randomly selected. This is the process that is used. Trump had nothing to do with her selection. Some folks disagreed with her appointing a special master. The federal appeals court threw the ruling out, finding she had 'overstepped'.

[Coach is Back!]

Say whatever you want. What is obvious. It didn't matter that it was Trump who was going to be tried. What do you not understand about the term random selection? You would have felt this way about any judge.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon a Supreme Court justice in Florida was also randomly selected. This is the process that is used. Trump had nothing to do with her selection. Some folks disagreed with her appointing a special master. The federal appeals court threw the ruling out, finding she had 'overstepped'.

So you think Trump being tried in DC, NYC and Atlanta….all Dem strongholds of 95+% is going to be completely unbiased towards the most hated man by the Democrats? You actually think he’s going to get an unbiased jury from an unbiased jury pool?

[illuminati]

Cocaine found at the White House under Biden administration
A Dead man Found at Obumer's House
A male Prostitute at Pelosi's House
An illegal server at Killary's House


And Yes The FBI Raid Donalds House 

All perfectly normal to the Corrupt & weird Libturds.

[Primemuscle]

So you think Trump being tried in DC, NYC and Atlanta….all Dem strongholds of 95+% is going to be completely unbiased towards the most hated man by the Democrats? You actually think he’s going to get an unbiased jury from an unbiased jury pool?

The venue of a trial is based on where the crime was committed. Trump had the misfortune to commit his crimes in Democratic Strongholds except for trial in Florida, which we all know is not a Democratic stronghold.

[Coach is Back!]

The venue of a trial is based on where the crime was committed. Trump had the misfortune to commit his crimes in Democratic Strongholds except for trial in Florida, which we all know is not a Democratic stronghold.

Trials are moved all the time when it’s thought the defendant wouldn’t get a fair trial in a particular venue. It’s been asked numerous times to have the trial moved to a more neutral district and has been denied.

[LurkerNoMore]

So before I say why…you’re just naive? Refuse to see the obvious? Or just because it’s Trump is doesn’t matter?

Translation : you can't say why because you can't articulate any response that is grounded in reality.

[Coach is Back!]

Translation : you can't say why because you can't articulate any response that is grounded in reality.

I did say, Junior. You’re not smart enough to pick up on it

[B_B_C]

“Unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities. Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.”

– Phillip K Dick

[Primemuscle]

Trials are moved all the time when it’s thought the defendant wouldn’t get a fair trial in a particular venue. It’s been asked numerous times to have the trial moved to a more neutral district and has been denied.

This is a risk criminals take. Apparently, sufficient reason has not been provided by his lawyers or Trump via his attorneys. One reason a change of venue is requested is that the accused cannot get a fair trial by jury because of pre-trial publicity. Since Trump has 'excessively' publicized his own cases on social media and at his rallies, there is likely nowhere his trials could be moved where the prospective jury pool would not know about the circumstances of the case.

-Hardly ‘all the time.’ 'Transfers of venue, as such motions are called, are notoriously difficult to obtain. The Supreme Court has held that they are warranted only in “extraordinary” circumstances. Denials of such motions have been upheld, for instance, in such emotional and pervasively publicized prosecutions as those of the Boston Marathon bomber in Boston, former Enron CEO Jeffrey Skilling in Houston, and World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef in Manhattan.'

Unfortunately, Trump has a long history of doing everything possible to delay his multiple trials. And not just the current ones. Without doubt, Judges are onto his delay tactics, which include venue changes, trial schedules and bogus appeals. Trump must never have heard about the proverb, 'What you sow, so shall you reap.'