Author Topic: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates  (Read 181869 times)

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102396
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #900 on: December 10, 2015, 08:37:41 PM »
Gallup: Trump Least-Liked Candidate

Doesn't matter to the Trump-ets.   They hate foreigners and they hate politically correct.  Nothing else matters.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #901 on: December 11, 2015, 09:52:55 AM »
Carson: Brokered convention would 'destroy' GOP
By Bradford Richardson
December 11, 2015


Ben Carson is threatening to leave the GOP following a report that senior Republican officials met to discuss the party’s strategy in the event of a brokered convention.

“If the leaders of the Republican Party want to destroy the party, they should continue to hold meetings like the one described in the Washington Post this morning,” Carson said in a statement released by his campaign.

“If this was the beginning of a plan to subvert the will of the voters and replace it with the will of the political elite, I assure you Donald Trump will not be the only one leaving the party,” he continued.

Five unnamed sources told the Post that Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) attended a dinner on Monday with around 20 senior party officials to discuss the party’s convention strategy.

The sources said several longtime party members argued the establishment must lay the groundwork for a floor fight in the event that Donald Trump sweeps through the primaries.

But Priebus and McConnell reportedly remained silent throughout the deliberations, taking care not to signal support for an anti-Trump effort.

Carson said if the report is true, Republican voters are being “betrayed” by their party.

“I pray that the report in the Post this morning was incorrect,” he said in the statement. “If it is correct, every voter who is standing for change must know they are being betrayed. I won’t stand for it.”

“If the powerful try to manipulate it, the Republican National Convention in Cleveland next summer may be the last convention,” he continued. “I am prepared to lose fair and square, as I am sure is Donald. But I will not sit by and watch a theft.”

Chief GOP strategist Sean Spicer said he is "confident" that Carson will not leave the party.

"I feel very confident he will stay in the party, as will Donald Trump, as will everyone else," he said Friday on CNN. "We will have a great nominating process. Everybody will stay in, we will select the best nominee for this party, and we will take back the White House."

"It'll all work out, I promise," he added.

Trump has said he is preparing a strategy in the event of a brokered convention.

He has also resurfaced hints of a third-party run.

Spicer said Trump was not a significant topic of conversation at the dinner.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262916-carson-brokered-convention-would-destroy-gop

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #902 on: December 11, 2015, 10:01:45 AM »
He should have quit weeks ago.

Rand Paul Likely to Miss Cut for Dec. 15 Primetime Republican Debate
Dec 10, 2015

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul will almost certainly fail to qualify for the primetime stage at next Tuesday's fifth Republican primary debate, according to an analysis of poll data conducted by Bloomberg. Paul has been included in all four of the main presidential debates to this point in the campaign. 

To qualify for the CNN-sponsored primetime debate, candidates must average at least 3.5 percent support nationally or 4 percent in either Iowa or New Hampshire, based on major polls conducted between Oct. 29 and Dec. 13.



Paul falls short on all three thresholds, but comes closest in Iowa, where he currently averages 3.5 percent support. If only one additional poll is released in each category by Sunday, Paul would need a relatively ambitious 6 percent in Iowa, 8 percent in New Hampshire or 10.5 percent nationally to qualify. 

Carly Fiorina has also come close to being left out of the main debate, but clears CNN’s entry criteria thanks to her 4.6 percent showing in New Hampshire. Assuming one more eligible Granite State poll by the Sunday deadline, Fiorina would need to fall below 1 percent to lose her spot onstage.

Given candidates' current positions and the likely pace of new polls, the only other contender expected to cross the primetime-undercard boundary is New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, who, despite weaker national numbers than Paul, has fought his way back into the main event with a strong 6.8 percent average in recent New Hampshire polls.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2015-12-10/rand-paul-likely-to-miss-cut-for-dec-15-primetime-republican-debate

whork

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6587
  • Getbig!
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #903 on: December 11, 2015, 12:15:15 PM »
Carson: Brokered convention would 'destroy' GOP
By Bradford Richardson
December 11, 2015


Ben Carson is threatening to leave the GOP following a report that senior Republican officials met to discuss the party’s strategy in the event of a brokered convention.

“If the leaders of the Republican Party want to destroy the party, they should continue to hold meetings like the one described in the Washington Post this morning,” Carson said in a statement released by his campaign.

“If this was the beginning of a plan to subvert the will of the voters and replace it with the will of the political elite, I assure you Donald Trump will not be the only one leaving the party,” he continued.

Five unnamed sources told the Post that Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) attended a dinner on Monday with around 20 senior party officials to discuss the party’s convention strategy.

The sources said several longtime party members argued the establishment must lay the groundwork for a floor fight in the event that Donald Trump sweeps through the primaries.

But Priebus and McConnell reportedly remained silent throughout the deliberations, taking care not to signal support for an anti-Trump effort.

Carson said if the report is true, Republican voters are being “betrayed” by their party.

“I pray that the report in the Post this morning was incorrect,” he said in the statement. “If it is correct, every voter who is standing for change must know they are being betrayed. I won’t stand for it.”

“If the powerful try to manipulate it, the Republican National Convention in Cleveland next summer may be the last convention,” he continued. “I am prepared to lose fair and square, as I am sure is Donald. But I will not sit by and watch a theft.”

Chief GOP strategist Sean Spicer said he is "confident" that Carson will not leave the party.

"I feel very confident he will stay in the party, as will Donald Trump, as will everyone else," he said Friday on CNN. "We will have a great nominating process. Everybody will stay in, we will select the best nominee for this party, and we will take back the White House."

"It'll all work out, I promise," he added.

LOL

Trump has said he is preparing a strategy in the event of a brokered convention.

He has also resurfaced hints of a third-party run.

Spicer said Trump was not a significant topic of conversation at the dinner.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262916-carson-brokered-convention-would-destroy-gop

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102396
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #904 on: December 11, 2015, 03:25:14 PM »
Ben Carson is threatening to leave the GOP following a report that senior Republican officials met to discuss the party’s strategy in the event of a brokered convention.


Repubs know Carson is a lying fraud, stupid in many areas, and zonked out on meds all day long.

Nobody needs to railroad him at the convention because he'll end up with 7% of the total votes.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #905 on: December 14, 2015, 09:20:55 AM »
Bloomberg Poll: Cruz Takes Big Lead Over Trump In Iowa

Image: Bloomberg Poll: Cruz Takes Big Lead Over Trump In Iowa
Saturday, 12 Dec 2015

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz has surged ahead to become the latest front-runner in the campaign for the Iowa caucuses, dislodging Ben Carson and opening an impressive lead over a stalled Donald Trump, a Bloomberg Politics/Des Moines Register Iowa Poll shows.

The firebrand junior senator from Texas is backed by 31 percent of those likely to attend the Republican caucuses that start the presidential nomination season on Feb. 1. Trump is a distant second at 21 percent, up slightly from 19 percent in October, but below his peak of 23 percent in August.

Cruz's 21-percentage-point jump since October is the largest surge between Iowa Polls recorded in at least the last five presidential caucus campaigns

When first and second choices are combined, he has the support of 51 percent of likely caucus-goers. The senator’s great leap forward comes largely at the expense of Carson, as Iowa’s evangelicals appear to have picked the candidate they want to get behind. The retired neurosurgeon, now barely in third-place, is supported by 13 percent, down from the first-place showing he posted in October, when he was at 28 percent.

For Iowa’s conservative voters, “the coalescing has begun,” said J. Ann Selzer, founder of Selzer & Co., the West Des Moines-based firm that conducted the poll.

The same can’t be said for the voters who describe themselves as part of the Republican establishment, which the poll recorded as 29 percent of the likely electorate. For now, Trump has 23 percent from those who consider themselves Republican establishment voters, followed by Cruz at 22 percent. Senator Marco Rubio and his one time mentor, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, are both at 12 percent.

There's no good news in the poll for Bush, who despite his political pedigree as the son and brother of past presidents and a massive campaign war chest, has moved up only slightly since October, to 6 percent from 5 percent, and is in fifth place. The super political action committee supporting Bush has been by far the largest political ad buyer in Iowa, Kantar/CMAG data shows.

Bush's negatives are the highest of any candidate in the field and at an all-time high in the state, with 54 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers viewing him unfavorably. That's up from 43 percent in October. He also recorded his highest level of likely caucus-goers who say they could never support him, 41 percent. "Based on this data, it's hard to keep Bush in the picture," Selzer said.

Cruz’s new front-runner status in Iowa has been accompanied by a jump in his favorability rating, now an all-time high of 73 percent, the highest in the Republican field. That could come as a surprise to members of Washington's establishment, who have shown disdain for him and complained that his three years there have been marked by showmanship, inflexibility and a lack of collegiality. In his campaign autobiography, A Time for Truth, Cruz's opening anecdote recounts him becoming the target of "red-faced name calling" by his Republican Senate colleagues when he wouldn’t go along with a party vote on extending the debt limit.

Cruz dominates yet another gauge the poll takes of candidates' strength, the "Selzer Score," which uses multiple measures to try to assess potential upside in a crowded field. The index looks at first and second choices, as well as whether respondents could ever -- or would never -- support candidates not in their first two choices. (The first choices are given double weight, while “ever support” is given a half weighting.) Using that system, Cruz scores an unprecedented 97.5. He's followed by Trump at 72.5, Carson at 67.5 and Rubio at 62.

The Texan’s rise suggests that Rubio's recent attacks on Cruz for alleged weakness on national security have failed so far to do damage, at least in Iowa. Rubio, the subject of criticism by some Iowa Republians for not spending more time in the state, is treading water: The junior senator from Florida is in fourth place with the support of 10 percent of voters, up just one point from October.

The poll also sets up an intriguing dilemma for Trump, including in the Republican debate Tuesday: The billionaire has sometimes mocked challengers on the basis of their personalities, but doing so against Cruz could prove risky, given the high senator's high favorable rating in Iowa. This weekend, Trump started to attack Cruz for his opposition to the Renewable Fuel Standard that supports the corn-based ethanol industry in Iowa.

In a week when he received the endorsement of one of Iowa's most visible evangelical leaders, the poll shows Cruz with support from 45 percent of those who mainly define themselves as evangelical conservatives, more than double what Carson gets. Half of likely Republican caucus-goers in the poll described themselves as "born again" or evangelical Christian, up from 42 percent in the October poll, possibly signaling greater participation from this group.

"He's very conservative and I agree with most of his views on the financial situation of our country and abortion and gay marriage," said Sarah Chappell, 34, a stay-at-home mother from Des Moines who is leaning toward caucusing for Cruz. "He wants to let us make choices, instead of the government being all powerful and making choices for us."

Cruz is also winning nearly half -- 46 percent -- of those who identify as very conservative, as well as 39 percent of those who consider themselves aligned with the Tea Party movement.

A victory in the Iowa caucuses would give Cruz some early- state momentum that could help carry him well beyond the second voting state of New Hampshire, where he isn't nearly as strong.

Unlike some recent Iowa Republican caucus winners, who have foundered because they didn’t have the campaign cash to capitalize on their strong showing in the state where the first ballots are cast, Cruz has plenty of money: His campaign committee had collected $26 million as of Sept. 30 and a family of super-political action committees backing him reported receipts of more than $37 million as of June 30.

With just seven weeks until the caucuses, a third of those likely to participate on the Republican side say their mind is made up. Trump and Cruz supporters are more certain, at 45 percent and 43 percent, respectively.

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee and Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky are tied for sixth place, with each getting 3 percent. All other candidates recorded 2 percent or less. Paul's score in the Iowa Poll could be enough to knock him from the main debate stage Tuesday in Las Vegas.

In keeping with Iowa tradition, the poll suggests there will be lots of late deciders, so Cruz can't coast. Almost a third say they're likely to still be deciding the week leading up to the caucuses, while 30 percent say they expect to have their minds made up at least a week ahead of time. Just 3 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers say they've signed a pledge card for a particular candidate, while 1 percent admit to signing one for more than one candidate.

Among the top four candidates in the poll, Cruz scores the highest on half of the 14 candidate attributes tested, with Trump winning the other half. Cruz is strongest on items related to presidential leadership, while Trump is strongest on questions related to getting specific things done, such as managing the economy, solving illegal immigration and reducing the deficit.

The billionaire real estate mogul also beats Cruz, 30 percent to 26 percent, on the question of who has the best chance to beat Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton in the general election.

Underscoring the anti-establishment mood, just 19 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers say they'd prefer a governor to win the nomination. Senators are picked by 30 percent, while a "government outsider who has handled complex issues and managed teams" is the preference of 39 percent.

A minority of 40 percent of likely Republican caucus-goers support making abortion illegal, including in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother. Among supporters of Cruz—who supports a no-exceptions abortion ban—that number is 58 percent, compared to 30 percent among Trump's backers.

More than two-thirds of likely Republican caucus-goers want to stop all U.S. resettlement of Syrian war refugees, 61 percent support sending at least 20,000 troops to fight the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria and 54 percent support deporting the estimated 11 million undocumented residents in the U.S.

On fiscal issues, almost three-quarters of Republican caucus-goers support a tax reform plan that cuts taxes on all Americans, including the very wealthiest. Sixty one percent want to abolish the Internal Revenue Service. Roughly the same proportion want to repeal the financial reform laws enacted after the banking crisis in 2008, and say they think climate change is a hoax.

The Iowa Poll, taken Dec. 7-10, included 400 likely Republican caucus participants. On the full sample, it has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percentage points, although higher for subgroups.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/cruz-soars-iowa-poll/2015/12/12/id/705548/#ixzz3uJgayutj

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #906 on: December 14, 2015, 09:28:41 AM »
Carson Collapses as Evangelicals Flee to Cruz

Image: Carson Collapses as Evangelicals Flee to Cruz
By Newsmax Staff   |   Sunday, 13 Dec 2015

Ben Carson, who led in some national polls and was handily beating Donald Trump in Iowa, has seen his near front-runner status collapse to third-tier, according to recent polls.

Political commentators have explained the retired neurosurgeon's sudden decline by pointing to Carson's stumble over foreign policy questions, an area gaining significant attention with voters in the wake of the the recent ISIS attacks in Paris and San Bernardino, California.

At the same time Sen. Ted Cruz appears to be coalescing support from evangelicals, a bedrock voting group for GOP voters.

Carson had been leading the group, but a wave of negative stories in Christian media has undermined his candidacy.

Carson has declined to apologize for using fetal tissue taken from aborted fetuses during medical research he conducted in the 1990s.

Christian activists have also been angry that Carson was an advocate of gay rights initiatives when he served as a director on major corporate boards, including Kellogg and Costco.

A new national NBC/Wall Street Journal poll out this weekend showed Trump still leading the race with 27 percent, with Cruz second at 22 percent.

Carson came in a distant fourth with 11 percent, behind rising Marco Rubio with 15 percent.

Two polls in the key battleground state of Iowa show Carson’s greatest erosion.

A Fox News poll shows Carson in fourth place with just 10 percent, and Cruz leading Trump 28 percent to 26 percent.

Also, the Bloomberg/Des Moines Register poll released this weekend has Carson in third place with 13 percent, trailing well behind Cruz’s 31 percent.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/carson-poll-collapes-trump/2015/12/13/id/705624/#ixzz3uJj2kv8O

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102396
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #907 on: December 14, 2015, 09:34:33 AM »
Carson Collapses as Evangelicals Flee to Cruz

I predicted his massive collapse very loudly.   He was lying and ignorant. 

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #908 on: December 14, 2015, 05:09:48 PM »
This is different.

Political Prediction Market: Rubio, Cruz, Trump in dead heat
By Deena Zaru, CNN
Mon December 14, 2015 | Video Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) As Ted Cruz surges in Iowa and Donald Trump maintains a lead nationally, they are both rising in CNN's Political Prediction Market, an online game that factors polls and other user data to predict outcomes for the 2016 election.

While Marco Rubio continues to lead the GOP pack, with a 33% chance that he'll win the nomination in the Prediction Market, Cruz is now a close second at 30% and Trump is third at 27%.

CNN's Political Prediction Market, administered by a company called Pivit, is a game that factors polls and other elements and invites users to predict where the election will go. The markets change as the public weighs in on the increasing or decreasing chance that a candidate or party wins or loses an election. It should not be confused as a survey from real voters.

In less than a week, Rubio has taken a seven-point dip, as Cruz rises from 26% to 30%.

Meanwhile, Trump, whose odds of winning the Republican nomination quickly plummeted from 33% to 22% a day after he called "for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States," back up to 27%.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is in a distant fourth place at 4%, followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush at 3%.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/politics/pivit-marco-rubio-donald-trump-ted-cruz/index.html

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #909 on: December 16, 2015, 04:47:16 PM »
Link to debate No. 5.


Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #910 on: December 17, 2015, 04:39:32 PM »
Marco Rubio Is Pushed to Pick a Must-Win Early Primary State
By JEREMY W. PETERSDEC. 17, 2015


Senator Marco Rubio in Las Vegas on Monday. Questions arose about where Mr. Rubio can get a victory that will provide his campaign with the early bounce it needs to prove he is able to win the Republican presidential nomination. Credit Ruth Fremson/The New York Times

WEST DES MOINES, Iowa — A nagging problem hovers over Senator Marco Rubio of Florida as he crisscrosses the country seeking support in the states with the first four nominating contests: With a month and a half until the voting begins, he still has not committed himself fully to trying to win any of them.

That hedged, wait-and-see approach served Mr. Rubio well as he floated to the top tier of national polls, won the backing of influential Republican financiers and began drawing hundreds to his rallies. His aides, flouting age-old political wisdom, started suggesting that he might not even need to win Iowa or New Hampshire — that a second- or third-place finish could be enough.

But as the primary fight becomes fiercer, and Mr. Rubio’s closest competitors start zeroing in on a single, must-win contest — like Iowa for Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and New Hampshire for Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey — Mr. Rubio’s all-things-to-all-people strategy is stretching his campaign thin, posing challenges in focusing his message and raising doubts among his supporters about his seriousness.

Some Rubio backers in the first four states to vote — Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada — are voicing concern about whether Mr. Rubio is leaving voters there with the impression that he does not need them to win. And some of Mr. Rubio’s own aides are now arguing privately that they should do more to push back against the belief that he is running an indifferent campaign before it becomes too widespread.

“The campaign efforts for Marco Rubio in Iowa can very easily be perceived as wanting to place in the top three in the caucus and not necessarily to win,” said Kenney Linhart, a pastor in Des Moines who is supporting the Rubio campaign. Regardless of how serious Mr. Rubio is about trying to win the state, Mr. Linhart added, the belief that he is not is harmful: “Perception is as powerful as intent or will.”

Most recent polls put Mr. Rubio in third place in Iowa, behind Donald J. Trump and Mr. Cruz. Though he is not in the lead in any of the states that vote first, he generally finds himself in the top three or four.

Indeed, Mr. Rubio’s light footprint in Iowa has been the talk of the state’s political community for months. He was unable to hire a local operative to run his campaign there, and instead brought in an Arkansas-based Republican strategist, Clint Reed, in September to oversee his Iowa campaign. And Mr. Rubio is relying on 31-year-old Eric Teetsel, who lives in Kansas, to handle outreach to social conservatives and evangelicals — rankling some Iowans used to a more neighborly outreach.

Inexperience and inattention to detail on the ground can have a tangible cost. Melody Slater is a former Lee County chairwoman for the now-defunct presidential campaign of Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin. Shortly after Mr. Walker dropped out, Mr. Rubio’s campaign announced that Ms. Slater was one of several of Mr. Walker’s backers who had signed on with them.

But now she says she is having second thoughts. “I had three campaigns call me that day — Huckabee, Cruz and Rubio,” Ms. Slater said in an interview, explaining that she agreed to endorse Mr. Rubio only at his campaign’s request. She said she still liked Mr. Rubio and may indeed caucus for him.

But she cautioned that she was also drawn to Mr. Cruz’s Christian values.

“You’ve got to be careful about what you say, don’t you?” Ms. Slater mused.

From the Rubio campaign’s perspective, not putting a marker down yet in any state means not having to set expectations that might not be met. His advisers do not want to face the possibility of fading in a state they said they could win. And they have told supporters and donors that Jeb Bush’s surprisingly lackluster campaign left them with more time to make their move.

“We’re doing things differently,” said Bobby Kauffman, a Republican state senator in Iowa who is helping the Rubio campaign. “People don’t like things being done differently.”

In the meantime, advisers are relying on a robust digital outreach program in the early-voting states and using local and national television to increase Mr. Rubio’s visibility. When he campaigns, he tends to eschew small towns and venues for larger population centers and media markets.

“Exposure is Marco’s friend,” said his pollster, Whit Ayers. “And exposure is the enemy of a whole lot of the rest of these candidates.”

Campaign advisers readily dismiss as superficial the older quantifiable signs of seriousness about Iowa’s tradition-bound caucuses, like lining up endorsements in all 99 counties or dotting the state with campaign offices. They refused even to divulge the number of staff members on the campaign’s payroll in Iowa, dismissing such details as the preoccupation of obsessives in the news media and on rival campaigns.

Yet, if Mr. Rubio’s campaign styles itself as more attuned to a modern media age when more voters can be reached through Facebook and Fox News, there are plenty of people who prefer being wooed as if it were still a landline and postage-stamp era.

Mr. Rubio is not likely to decide where to make his move until sometime next month. His schedule this week — both in his public rallies and private meetings — shows what a broad appeal he is trying to make: After sitting down with the billionaire casino magnate Sheldon Adelson in Las Vegas before Tuesday night’s debate, Mr. Rubio set off for Iowa where he continued his efforts to woo evangelical Christian voters. He will visit New Hampshire next and then South Carolina.

Every Republican nominee in modern times has won either Iowa or New Hampshire at a minimum. But until now, at least, Mr. Rubio’s strategy has pointed toward a test of whether a candidate who finishes no better than second in either could still manage to stay alive.

It is a risky gambit: Opponents are already attacking Mr. Rubio in New Hampshire for taking a lackadaisical approach there. And The New Hampshire Union Leader, an influential newspaper in the state, which has endorsed Mr. Christie, accused Mr. Rubio of “just going through the motions” in his visits to the state.

Presidential campaigns struggle every cycle with the question of how many resources to commit to states they stand little chance of winning, and the consequences are not always straightforward. In 2008, Senator John McCain of Arizona spent relatively little time campaigning in Iowa, and watched his poll numbers plummet, but then came back to win in New Hampshire and capture the Republican nomination. In 2012, Mitt Romney’s campaign agonized over whether to compete in Iowa, only to decide right before Thanksgiving in 2011 — a little more than a month before the caucuses — that he would.

“Spreading your forces out over a wide front would make me very nervous,” said Stuart Stevens, Mr. Romney’s chief strategist in 2012. “Every day in a campaign is ‘Sophie’s Choice,’” he added. “And that’s the hardest thing. You’ve got to decide where you’re going to live and where you’re going to die.”

The question of where Mr. Rubio can get a victory that will provide his campaign with the early bounce it needs to prove he is able to win the nomination is coming up more and more as he travels the country. When he ventured an answer recently in West Des Moines, he did not display much interest in entertaining what he clearly considered an abstract question at this point.

“I’m not a psychic,” he said, adding that he was confident in his strategy. “We want to do well. We want to do very well. And hopefully that means winning.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/18/us/politics/marco-rubio-wavers-on-how-hard-to-compete-in-early-primaries.html

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #911 on: December 21, 2015, 08:29:56 AM »
Graham drops out of 2016 presidential race
Published December 21, 2015 
FoxNews.com

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham on Monday ended his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, exiting the race after using his campaign to draw attention to national security issues.

He made the announcement in a video posted on his campaign website.

“Today I’m suspending my campaign for president,” he said.

The three-term senator has struggled to gain traction in the race, and has been relegated during recent debates to the evening program with lower-polling candidates -- and even failed to qualify for one of them.

But he has stood out during those debates with his passionate appeals to confront Islamic terrorism.

In his video message, Graham stressed that “the centerpiece of my campaign has been securing our nation” and maintained he has brought needed attention to that issue.

“I got into this race to put forward a plan to win a war we cannot afford to lose and to turn back the tide of isolationism that was rising in our party. I believe we have made enormous progress in this effort,” Graham said.

Graham said that when he entered the race, no other candidates would join him in calling for more U.S. troops to confront the Islamic State.

“Today most of my fellow candidates have come to recognize this is what’s needed to secure our homeland,” he said.

He also sent an email to supporters announcing his decision.

Fellow candidates praised Graham as he bowed out, with Jeb Bush tweeting:

Jeb Bush  ✔@JebBush
Nobody is more clear-eyed about   ISIS than my friend @GrahamBlog. As he leaves the race I hope our party & country listen to his counsel
4:49 AM - 21 Dec 2015

Only a handful of candidates have exited the crowded Republican race since the start of the campaign. With his decision, Graham joins former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/21/graham-drops-out-2016-presidential-race.html?intcmp=hpbt2

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #912 on: December 22, 2015, 02:17:17 PM »
Fox News Keeps Megyn Kelly on Team for its Next GOP Debate

Image: Fox News Keeps Megyn Kelly on Team for its Next GOP Debate  The moderators of the Fox News August 6, 2015 debate Chris Wallace, Megyn Kelly and Bret Baier. (Chip Somevilla/Getty Images) 
By Greg Richter
Monday, 21 Dec 2015
.
Fox News Channel will host its second GOP presidential debate on Jan. 28 — just three days before the Iowa caucuses — the network announced Monday.

The moderators will be the same as in the first debate: Fox News anchors Chris Wallace, Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly.

Front-runner Donald Trump took exception to the moderators' questions last time, most notably Kelly, who asked him about his treatment of women on Twitter. That sparked a war with Fox after Trump said Kelly had blood coming "out of her whatever."

Trump said he meant her ears or nose, though critics said it sounded like he was talking about hormones.

Trump has had a love/hate relationship with Fox ever since, though he has not appeared on "The Kelly File" since.

The debate will air at 9 p.m. ET on Fox News Channel, Fox News Radio, Fox News Mobile and FoxNews.com, according to the network. It will take place at the Iowa Events Center in Des Moines.

Fox Business Network will host its second GOP debate on January 14 in South Carolina.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/fox-debate-host-wallace/2015/12/21/id/706740/#ixzz3v5frB8nw

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #913 on: December 22, 2015, 02:24:06 PM »
Quinnipiac National Poll: Cruz Surges to Virtual Tie With Trump

Image: Quinnipiac National Poll: Cruz Surges to Virtual Tie With Trump     
By Sandy Fitzgerald     
Tuesday, 22 Dec 2015

With just six weeks left until the Iowa Caucuses open in February, Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz remain in a virtual tie for the GOP nomination, but Trump trails both Democratic candidates Hillary Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders when it comes to general election matchups, according a new Quinnipiac University Poll.

 Among Republican or Republican-leaning voters:
•Trump: 28 percent;
•Cruz, 24 percent;
•Sen. Marco Rubio, 12 percent;
•Ben Carson, 10 percent;
•Gov. Chris Christie, 6 percent;
•Jeb Bush, 4 percent;
•Sen. Rand Paul, Carly Fiorina, 2 percent each;
•Gov. John Kasich, Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee 1 percent each.

The latest poll shows a five-point drop for Rubio since Quinnipiac's November poll. Carson is six points down from November. However, Christie's numbers are up, and the the remainder are at about the same levels.

Of all the candidates, Carson has been falling the furthest. In October, Carson was leading the Quinnipiac survey at 28 percent, followed by Trump at 20 percent, Rubio at 13 percent, and Cruz nabbed 10 percent. Bush's numbers have remained virtually the same, as he had 5 percent in the October poll.

Trump's four-point lead over Cruz in the current poll falls within the margin of error of 4.4 percentage points among Republicans and 2.9 percentage points overall. However, 58 percent of the voters who named a candidate said they may change their mind, the poll showed.

A combination of the nation's polls, though, shows Trump with a commanding lead of 34 percent to Rubio's 18 percent, according to Real Clear Politics.

In the new Quinnipiac poll, Clinton maintained her commanding lead over Sanders, by 61-30 percent, and Former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley netted 2 percent. Six percent were undecided and 41 percent said they may change their minds.

 Further, the top Republican candidates all fall behind Clinton and Sanders in potential general election matchups:
•Voters back Clinton over Trump 47 – 40 percent;
•Clinton over Rubio, 44-43 percent;
•Clinton tied with Cruz, 44-44 percent.
•Sanders over Trump, 51-38 percent;
•Rubio over Sanders, 45-42 percent;
•Cruz over Sanders, 44-43 percent.

Voters also said, by 59-32 percent, including 86-10 percent among Democrats, that Clinton would defeat the eventual Republican nominee next November. Overall, voters said by 53-41 percent that Trump does not have a good chance of winning in November, but Republicans, by 70-24 percent said he has a good chance of winning.

The poll was conducted from Dec. 16-20 of 1,140 registered voters nationwide and carried a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points.

It included 508 Republicans, with a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points, and 462 Democrats, with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.6 percentage points.

Cruz is showing strong support among different voting groups over Trump:
•Tea Party: Cruz, 38-27;
•White, Evangelical Christians, 33-22 percent;
•Very conservative supporters: 33-22 percent;
Trump was over Cruz among men, by 30 percent to 29 percent, and among people with a college degree, by 24-21 percent.

Also, 40 percent of the Republican voters who watched the Dec. 15 debate said they believed Cruz won the contest, compared to 20 percent for Trump. 

With Republicans, 28 percent said they definitely would not support Trump, and 24 percent said they would not back Bush.

In addition, 23 percent would be proud to have Trump as the president of the United States, with half saying they'd be embarrassed, and 33 percent said they'd be proud of Clinton and 35 percent embarrassed.

 In other matchups:
•Voters back Clinton over Trump 47 – 40 percent;
•Clinton over Rubio, 44-43 percent;
•Clinton tied with Cruz, 44-44 percent.
•Sanders over Trump, 51-38 percent;
•Rubio over Sanders, 45-42 percent;
•Cruz over Sanders, 44-43 percent.

In favorability ratings:
•Clinton, 43-51 percent;
•Sanders, 40 – 31 percent;
•Rubio,  37 – 28 percent;
•Cruz, 35 – 33 percent.

Meanwhile, Clinton and Trump remain close on several key qualities, except for experience. Voters said, by 63-35 percent, that Clinton has the right kind of experience to be president, while, by 67-29 percent, they said Trump does not have the experience needed.

In other numbers:
•59 – 35 percent said that Clinton is not honest and trustworthy;
•58 – 40 percent that she has strong leadership qualities;
•50 – 46 percent that she does not care about their needs and problems;
•55 – 42 percent that she does not share their values.

With Trump;  voters say:
•58 – 36 percent that he is not honest and trustworthy;
•58 – 39 percent that he has strong leadership qualities;
•57 – 38 percent that he does not care about their needs and problems;
•61 – 34 percent that he does not share their values.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Quinnipiac-Trump-Cruz-Clinton/2015/12/22/id/706750/#ixzz3v5hUTfE3

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #914 on: December 23, 2015, 09:02:22 AM »
About time.  Good decision.

Next GOP debate stage could shrink to six candidates
By Ben Kamisar
December 22, 2015


As few as six candidates could make the next GOP presidential debate stage in January, as Fox Business Network's new criteria could drastically shrink the field less than a month before the Iowa caucuses.

Fox Business Network announced three separate avenues to make the main stage, but those pathways are more restricted than in previous debates. Participants in the main stage debate on Jan. 14 must hit the top six in an average of five recent national polls, or top five in an average of recent polls from Iowa or New Hampshire.
 
The rest will qualify for another undercard debate, provided that they earn at least 1 percent in one of the qualifying polls. 
 
Last month's CNN debate also relied on early state polling, but set a 4 percent threshold instead. Nine candidates made the network's main event.
 
Fox Business Network, as in the past, hasn't announced which polls it would use. But using current RealClearPolitics averages, Donald Trump, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas), Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), Ben Carson, former Gov. Jeb Bush (Fla.), and Gov. Chris Christie (N.J.) currently sit in the national top six.
 
Those six candidates also make up the top five in Iowa in New Hampshire, in a different order. So depending on which polls would qualify, no other candidates would make the main stage as of now.
 
That would relegate Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.), Carly FIorina, and Gov. John Kasich (Ohio) to the undercard debate weeks before the first votes of 2016 are cast. Candidates may get one more shot on Jan. 28, when Fox News hosts a debate just days before the Feb. 1 Iowa caucus.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/264072-next-gop-debate-stage-could-shrink-to-six-candidates

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102396
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #915 on: December 23, 2015, 10:52:19 AM »
the undercard debates are better anyway... some good answers and solutions. 

the main card debates are mostly "Candidate A, this is what Candidate B said about you..."

nobody talks policy.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #916 on: December 24, 2015, 06:16:23 PM »
Great commentary by George Will.  Trump will probably be talking stink about Will's mother after this.

Trump Jeopardizes Future of GOP

Image: Trump Jeopardizes Future of GOP (AP)
By George Will   
Thursday, 24 Dec 2015

If you look beyond Donald Trump's comprehensive unpleasantness — is there a disagreeable human trait he does not have? — you might see this: He is a fundamentally sad figure. His compulsive boasting is evidence of insecurity.

His unassuageable neediness suggests an aching hunger for others' approval to ratify his self-admiration. His incessant announcements of his self-esteem indicate that he is not self-persuaded. Now, panting with a puppy's insatiable eagerness to be petted, Trump has reveled in the approval of Vladimir Putin, murderer and war criminal.
     
Putin slyly stirred America's politics by saying Trump is "very talented," adding that he welcomed Trump's promise of "closer, deeper relations," whatever that might mean, with Russia. Trump announced himself flattered to be "so nicely complimented" by a "highly respected" man: "When people call you brilliant, it's always good."

When MSNBC's Joe Scarborough said Putin "kills journalists and political opponents and invades countries," Trump replied that "at least he's a leader." Besides, Trump breezily asserted, "I think our country does plenty of killing also." Two days later, Trump, who rarely feigns judiciousness, said: "It has not been proven that he's killed reporters."
     
Well. Perhaps the 56 journalists murdered were coincidental victims of amazingly random violence that the former KGB operative's police state is powerless to stop. It has, however, been "proven," perhaps even to Trump's exacting standards, that Putin has dismembered Ukraine. (Counts one and two at the 1946 Nuremberg trials concerned conspiracy to wage, and waging, aggressive war.)   
     
Until now, Trump's ever-more-exotic effusions have had an almost numbing effect. Almost. But by his embrace of Putin, and by postulating a slanderous moral equivalence — Putin kills journalists, the United States kills terrorists, what's the big deal, or the difference? — Trump has forced conservatives to recognize their immediate priority.
     
Certainly conservatives consider it crucial to deny the Democratic Party a third consecutive term controlling the executive branch. Extending from eight to 12 years its use of unbridled executive power would further emancipate the administrative state from control by either a withering legislative branch or a supine judiciary. But first things first. Conservatives' highest priority now must be to prevent Trump from winning the Republican nomination in this the GOP's third epochal intra-party struggle in 104 years.
     
In 1912, former President Theodore Roosevelt campaigned for the Republican nomination on an explicitly progressive platform. Having failed to win the nomination, he ran a third-party campaign against the Republican nominee, President William Howard Taft, and the Democratic nominee, New Jersey's Gov. Woodrow Wilson, who that November would become the first person elected president who was deeply critical of the American founding.

TR shared Wilson's impatience with the separation of powers, which both men considered an 18th-century relic incompatible with a properly energetic executive. Espousing unconstrained majoritarianism, TR favored a passive judiciary deferential to elected legislatures and executives; he also endorsed the powers of popular majorities to overturn judicial decisions and recall all public officials.
     
Taft finished third, carrying only Utah and Vermont. But because Taft hewed to conservatism, and was supported by some other leading Republicans (e.g., Sen. Henry Cabot Lodge, one of TR's closest friends, and Elihu Root, TR's secretary of war and then secretary of state), the Republican Party survived as a counterbalance to a progressive Democratic Party.
     
In 1964, Barry Goldwater mounted a successful conservative insurgency against a Republican establishment that was content to blur and dilute the Republican distinctiveness that had been preserved 52 years earlier. Goldwater defeated New York's Gov. Nelson Rockefeller for the nomination, just as Taft had defeated TR, a former New York governor.

Like Taft, Goldwater was trounced (he carried six states). But the Republican Party won five of the next seven presidential elections. In two of them, Ronald Reagan secured the party's continuity as the custodian of conservatism.
     
In 2016, a Trump nomination would not just mean another Democratic presidency. It would mean the loss of what Taft and then Goldwater made possible — a conservative party as a constant presence in American politics.

It is possible Trump will not win any primary, and that by the middle of March our long national embarrassment will be over. But this avatar of unfettered government and executive authoritarianism has mesmerized a large portion of Republicans for six months. The larger portion should understand this:
   
One hundred and four years of history is in the balance. If Trump is the Republican nominee in 2016, there might not be a conservative party in 2020 either.

http://www.newsmax.com/GeorgeWill/trump-putin-goldwater/2015/12/24/id/707007/#ixzz3vIKf7QSp

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #917 on: December 28, 2015, 08:59:08 AM »
Trey Gowdy Endorses Marco Rubio As ‘Rock Solid Conservative’
by CHARLIE SPIERING
26 Dec 2015

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL)79% has earned the support of conservative favorite Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC)86%

 (R-S.C.), who will join the freshman Senator for a three-day trip to Iowa to rally support for his campaign.

“Marco is a rock solid conservative and a strong leader we can trust,” Gowdy said in a statement proved to reporters. “I look forward to campaigning in Iowa with him, and introducing my good friend to voters across the state.”

Gowdy is a celebrity among many conservatives, thanks to his tough prosecutorial grilling of members of the administration officials during congressional hearings and because he has chaired the Benghazi investigative committee that centers on Hillary Clinton.

Gowdy will join Rubio for seven events in Iowa. He will likely officially announce his support at a campaign rally at the Pzazz! Convention and Event Center in Burlington, Iowa on Monday.

Gowdy’s announcement comes just as many grassroots conservative activists in the state have begun to coalesce around Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%
’s campaign. A CBS/YouGov poll of the state earlier this month showed Cruz earning 40 percent, followed by Donald Trump at 31 percent. Rubio fell to third place with 12 percent of the vote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/26/trey-gowdy-endorses-marco-rubio-rock-solid-conservative/

Las Vegas

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7423
  • ! Repent or Perish !
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #918 on: December 29, 2015, 05:45:17 PM »
Pataki definitely out.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #919 on: December 30, 2015, 10:19:57 AM »
Pataki Makes It Official: Leaving Presidential Race
By Greg Richter   
Tuesday, 29 Dec 2015

Former New York Gov. George Pataki dropped out of the GOP race for president on Tuesday night, making his official announcement on local TV stations in the early voting states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Word had already leaked out,  with Boston Globe reporter James Pindell tweeting a "scoop" earlier in the day that Pataki was calling New Hampshire supporters to tell them he was dropping out.

Later, Pataki himself tweeted that a "special message" would be airing on NBC affiliates in the three states during Tuesday's episode of "Chicago Med."

In a two-minute message, the former governor invoked front-runner Donald Trump's signature phrase, saying, "If we're truly going to make America great again we need to elect a president who will do three things: confront and defeat radical Islam, shrink the size and power of Washington and unite us again in our belief in this great country."

Pataki has been a sharp critic of Trump, but his campaign never caught fire. He is in last place in the current Real Clear Politics

CNN reports he used the equal time rule to make the announcement on NBC after Trump hosted "Saturday Night Live" last fall.

"I'm confident we can elect the right person," Pataki said in the ad, "someone who will bring us together and who understands that politicians, including the president, must be the people's servant, and not their master.

Pataki's former rivals were mostly gracious, with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz offering a tribute on Facebook.

"I’m grateful for Governor George Pataki’s many years of dedication to our nation and to the state of New York — particularly while serving as Governor on September 11th," Cruz wrote. "He brought experience and knowledge to the race for the Republican nomination, and as a result, helped prepare our eventual nominee to win in November and take back the White House."

Trump, however, hit Pataki over his near-zero showing in the polls as he announced Pataki's exit at a Council Bluffs, Iowa campaign rally.

"Somebody else dropped out, but there's not much to split up because he was at zero," Trump said, noting that usually when a candidate drops out he tries to figure out where his supporters will move to. "When they drop out at zero you just go on."

Ohio Gov. John Kasich also thanked Pataki for his service.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/george-pataki-dropping-out-gop/2015/12/29/id/707500/#ixzz3vpUWsLkz

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #920 on: December 30, 2015, 12:54:50 PM »
Marco Rubio Is No Moderate

Image: Marco Rubio Is No Moderate Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla. (AP)
By Deroy Murdock   
Wednesday, 30 Dec 2015

Some on the right lately have denounced Sen. Marco Rubio, R – Fla., as the Republican establishment’s plan B, now that Jeb Bush has fizzled.

One Miami-based conservative activist dismisses Rubio as “white Republican Obama.”

How absurd. Rubio is not Bob Dole with palm trees. And if Rubio is a “moderate,” as Sen. Ted Cruz, R – Texas, claims, then John McCain is Ho Chi Minh.

How soon we forget: Marco Rubio was a 2010 tea party pinup. He was endorsed by the devoutly anti-establishment Club for Growth.

Rather than grow a RINO horn, Rubio reliably votes right.

The American Conservative Union gave Rubio a 96 rating (out of 100) for 2014 and 98 across his Senate career. Heritage Action handed Rubio a 94 last year and 91 lifetime. The equivalent Club for Growth numbers are 92 and 93.

These sparkling right-wing credentials notwithstanding, Rubio works and plays well enough with others to enact conservative legislation — sometimes with Democratic support.

Rubio and Senator Jeanne Shaheen, D–N.H., co-sponsored the Hezbollah International Financing Prevention Act. This brand-new law limits the Iranian-backed terrorist group’s access to global financial markets and punishes banks that serve this band of anti-American, anti-Israeli killers. Hezbollah itself denounced Rubio’s law as “a new crime by American institutions against our people and nation.”

Rubio torpedoed Obama’s planned bailout of his health-insurance cronies who lose money due to Obamacare. So far, Rubio has saved taxpayers some $2.5 billion and prevented insurers from socializing their Obamacare losses. Mega-insurers UnitedHealthCare and Cigna have fallen out of love with Obamacare and may flee Obama’s exchanges in 2017. Rubio’s low-key amendment to the 2014 omnibus spending bill looks like the thumbtack that slowly will give Obamacare a flat tire.

Cruz “forced a shutdown over it,” the Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin recalled. “Every GOP presidential candidate vows to repeal it. But only [Rubio] can claim to have done something tangible to hobble, maybe permanently, Obamacare.”

In light of the Department of Veteran Affairs’ appalling and deadly neglect of America’s vets, Rubio sponsored legislation to make it easier for the VA secretary to fire incompetent and corrupt bureaucrats whose sloth actually has killed sick veterans as they awaited medical care.

Before Rubio’s measure was signed into law, he had to overcome Senator Bernie Sanders’s objections. The Vermont socialist tried in vain to sink Rubio’s proposal and, thus, protect the job security of VA workers.

Rubio and Democrats Robert Menendez of New Jersey and Bill Nelson of Florida were original sponsors of a December 2014 law that condemns and tightens sanctions on Venezuela’s Castroite tyranny.

Ted Cruz is also a tea party/Club for Growth–approved hero with sky-high conservative scores. Alas, Cruz’s go-it-alone style has limited his effectiveness as a lawmaker who can pass legislation.

Cruz’s Senate website cites just one piece of legislation that he has guided into law: a 2014 statute bars entry visas to U.N. ambassadors who have committed espionage or terrorism against America or threaten U.S. national security.

Also telling: Among those who work closely with both of these men, three Republican senators have endorsed Rubio — Montana’s Steve Daines, Colorado’s Cory Gardner, and Idaho’s James Risch.

In contrast, none of Cruz’s Senate colleagues recommends him for president. Rubio has raised suspicions for initially co-sponsoring comprehensive immigration reform, nicknamed “amnesty.”

However, Rubio abandoned the bill once it metastasized into a 1,198-page monstrosity. “We must begin by acknowledging that, considering our recent experience with massive pieces of legislation, achieving comprehensive reform of anything in a single bill is simply not realistic,” Rubio wrote in his book American Dreams.

Instead, Rubio now calls for a “sequential and piecemeal” approach “with a series of bills that build upon one another until ultimately we have put in place the kind of immigration system our nation needs.”

The affable Marco Rubio votes with conservatives more than 90 percent of the time and even gets Democrats to back his right-wing reforms.

What a moderate

http://www.newsmax.com/Murdock/Moderate-Obamacare-Taxpayers-VA/2015/12/30/id/707553/#ixzz3vq7NETCo

whork

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 6587
  • Getbig!
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #921 on: December 30, 2015, 01:22:25 PM »
What do you think of Rubio's voting record Dos E?


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/marco_rubio/412491

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102396
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #922 on: December 30, 2015, 01:49:16 PM »
Rubio is pretty liberal, no doubt about it.

but so many vote on looks and image, not actual voting records or even policy positions.

Look at trump - more liberal than ANYONE in the repub race... and he's killing them all in the polls.  the base doesn't care about issues, they care about personality.

Dos Equis

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 63800
  • I am. The most interesting man in the world. (Not)
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #923 on: December 30, 2015, 06:31:34 PM »
What do you think of Rubio's voting record Dos E?


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/marco_rubio/412491

I think it's about as relevant as his "luxury" speedboat and his traffic tickets. 

240 is Back

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 102396
  • Complete website for only $300- www.300website.com
Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #924 on: December 30, 2015, 07:19:29 PM »
I think it's about as relevant as his "luxury" speedboat and his traffic tickets. 

LOL @ you seriously not believing a candidate's voting record matters.

Says it all, doesn't it?