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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1026 on: January 15, 2016, 12:30:16 PM »
Dr Carson sounded stoned last night.

He hears a question, then ignores it and goes into a little story of his which always references the bible and usually ends with a quasi-witty statement designed to get zealots to clap. 

He's about to drop below 10% nationally.  He's done, as I predicted.  He is just running for book sales, as I also predicted.  Took the lead then stopped campaigning almost completely from Oct 2nd on. 

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1027 on: January 22, 2016, 10:49:29 AM »
Well that effort deteriorated pretty rapidly. 

RNC Disinvites National Review From Debate

Image: RNC Disinvites National Review From Debate
By Newsmax Wires   |   
Friday, 22 Jan 2016

The Republican National Committee has dumped National Review from the Feb. 25 GOP debate after the magazine published a scathing editorial against Donald Trump.

RNC Spokesman Sean Spicer told Buzzfeed News that the magazine was dumped as a sponsor of the debate in Houston, saying "a debate moderator can't have a predisposition."

Jack Fowler, publisher of National Review, wrote a short blog item late Thursday:

"Tonight, a top official with the RNC called me to say that National Review was being disinvited. The reason: Our 'Against Trump' editorial and symposium. We expected this was coming. Small price to pay for speaking the truth about The Donald."

The Houston debate was already the subject of controversy earlier this week when the RNC dumped NBC as broadcaster in the wake of the much-criticized Oct. 28 debate aired by NBC's CNBC cable network.

The RNC replaced NBC with CNN as the broadcaster and changed the date from Feb. 26 to Feb. 25.

With National Review dropped from the debate, CNN's remaining partners are Salem Radio and Telemundo.

The magazine Thursday night posted online its editorial outlining why Donald Trump is "a menace to conservatism," along with essays from 22 conservative leaders arguing that Trump is not fit to lead the nation. It also will be in the conservative journal's Feb. 15 print edition, which goes to press Wednesday.

The GOP front-runner wasted no time in firing back late Thursday against the mag.

Trump called it a "failing" publication — the same criticism he leveled at the New Hampshire Union Leader when it attacked him last month in a front-page editorial — and said the magazine's late founder "would be ashamed."

Despite recent attacks from conservatives against Trump, there doesn't seem to be any impact on the mogul's campaign or popularity. Polls show him either in a dead heat with Ted Cruz in Iowa, or, as CNN's latest showed, some 11 points ahead.

Trump is leading in New Hampshire, too, with a comfortable lead over nearest rivals Ted Cruz and John Kasich. A new Zogby poll puts Trump 32 points ahead of Cruz nationally.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/rnc-disinvites-nationa-review/2016/01/22/id/710396/#ixzz3y05pUbeP

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1028 on: January 22, 2016, 01:28:32 PM »
Fucking "Telemundo" is a "partner" in the debate production.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1029 on: January 22, 2016, 06:43:42 PM »
10 Reasons National Review Wants Conservatives to Dump Trump

Image: 10 Reasons National Review Wants Conservatives to Dump Trump Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump attends a news conference before speaking during the Outdoor Channel and Sportsman Channel's 16th annual Outdoor Sportsman Awards at The Venetian Las Vegas during the 2016 National Shooting Sports Foundation's Shooting, Hunting, Outdoor Trade (SHOT) Show on January 21, 2016 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Ethan Miller/Getty Images)
By Mike Garcia   |   Friday, 22 Jan 2016

National Review, the magazine founded by William F. Buckley, Jr., came out guns-blazing on Thursday with a special issue in which more than 20 big-name conservatives make the case for dumping Donald Trump.

Trump responded with a series of negative tweets, and the Republican National Committee reacted by disinviting National Review from co-hosting a primary debate scheduled for Feb. 25 in Texas.

Jack Fowler, publisher of National Review, responded in kind: "We expected this was coming. Small price to pay for speaking the truth about The Donald."

Gathered below are 10 reasons conservative leaders say the New York billionaire doesn't deserve the party's nomination.

1. NR Editors: Trump replaces conservative ideals with "free-floating populism" — In a scathing editorial, the magazine editors acknowledged that Trump "has shown impressive gut-level skill as a campaigner." They warn, however, that "Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus." They note that Trump has in the past expressed support for "abortion, gun control, single-payer healthcare à la Canada, and punitive taxes on the wealthy."

2. Glenn Beck: Trump supported Obama's stimulus and bailouts — "Over the years, there have been endless fractures in the façade of individual freedom, but three policies provided the fuel that lit the tea-party fire: the stimulus, the auto bailouts, and the bank bailouts. Barack Obama supported all three. So did Donald Trump," wrote the founder of The Blaze and former Fox News host.

3. Michael Medved: Trump will be an easy takedown for the Dems — "According to conventional caricature, conservatives are selfish, greedy, materialistic, bullying, misogynistic, angry, and intolerant," wrote the prominent radio host. "The Left tried to smear Ronald Reagan in such terms but failed miserably because he displayed none of the stereotypical traits. In contrast, Trump is the living, breathing, bellowing personification of all the nasty characteristics Democrats routinely ascribe to Republicans."

4. Erick Erickson: Trump was a liberal until very recently — The radio personality and former editor of RedState cited scripture in his article against Trump: "If anyone aspires to the office of overseer . . . he must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil" (1 Timothy 3:1,6). Erickson pointed out that Trump told Sean Hannity in 2011 that "I was [Obama’s] biggest cheerleader," and that he has supported liberal policies like universal government healthcare.

5. Katie Pavlich: Trump's a big-government crony — "Trump has made a living out of preying on and bullying society’s most vulnerable, with the help of government. He isn’t an outsider, but rather an unelected politician of the worst kind. He admits that he’s bought off elected officials in order get his way and to openly abuse the system," wrote the Townhall editor and best-selling author.

6. John Podhoretz: Trump coarsens American culture — "Donald Trump is the apotheosis of a tendency that began to manifest itself in American culture in the 1980s, most notably in the persons of the comic Andrew Dice Clay and the shock jock Howard Stern: the American id," wrote the editor of Commentary magazine. "In any integrated personality, the id is supposed to be balanced by an ego and a superego . . . Trump is an unbalanced force. He is the politicized American id. Should his election results match his polls, he would be, unquestionably, the worst thing to happen to the American common culture in my lifetime."

7. Thomas Sowell: Trump's egomania mirrors Obama's — The best-selling author and Hoover Institution fellow argued that it is "remarkable" that "after seven years of repeated disasters, both domestically and internationally, under a glib egomaniac in the White House, so many potential voters are turning to another glib egomaniac to be his successor. No doubt much of the stampede of Republican voters toward Mr. Trump is based on their disgust with the Republican establishment. It is easy to understand why there would be pent-up resentments among Republican voters. But are elections held for the purpose of venting emotions?"

8. William Kristol: Trump prioritizes wealth over freedom — "Hasn’t Donald Trump been a votary merely of wealth rather than of freedom? Hasn’t he been animated by the art of the deal rather than by the art of self-government?" asked the Weekly Standard editor. Kristol pointed to Buckley's famous statement that conservatism "stands athwart history, yelling Stop, at a time when no one is inclined to do so." "Isn’t the task of conservatives today to stand athwart Trumpism, yelling Stop?" he asked.

9. Yuval Levin: America needs more than a manager — The founding editor of National Affairs argued that "American conservatism is an inherently skeptical political outlook. It assumes that no one can be fully trusted with public power and that self-government in a free society demands that we reject the siren song of politics-as-management." He concludes that "a shortage of such skepticism is how we ended up with the problems Trump so bluntly laments."

10. Dana Loesch: Trump supported government seizure of private property — "As recently as a couple of years ago, Trump favored the liberal use of eminent-domain laws. He said that the ability of the government to wrest private property from citizens served 'the greater good.' Is that suddenly a conservative principle?" asked the nationally syndicated radio host. "I know Donald Trump . . . I genuinely like him. But not as my presidential pick," she added.

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/national-review-conservatives-dump-donald-trump/2016/01/22/id/710436/#ixzz3y210bvI7

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1030 on: January 25, 2016, 11:34:20 AM »
Incredible how thin-skinned this dude can be.

Donald Trump Says Megyn Kelly Should Skip Debate; Fox Says She’ll Be There


Donald J. Trump spoke at a campaign event in Pella, Iowa, on Saturday.Credit Sam Hodgson for The New York Times

Since Megyn Kelly’s pointed question to Donald J. Trump about his treatment of women in the first Republican debate, he has been attacking her regularly, through Tweets and on the campaign trail.

His most recent attack: Ms. Kelly shouldn’t be allowed to moderate the next debate, to be held on Thursday, because of “conflict of interest and bias.”

Since August, the bad blood has been decidedly one-sided, as Mr. Trump has repeatedly called Ms. Kelly a liar and overrated, and retweeted supporters calling her a bimbo. Most memorably, he seemed to suggest she was menstruating during the debate when he said in an interview, “you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.”

Ms. Kelly had asked Mr. Trump during the debate about his history of disparaging women he did not like by calling them “fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals.” After he criticized her, she stood her ground, saying in August that she planned to “continue doing my job without fear or favor.” She has never engaged with the candidate on any of his attacks, and has had his supporters on her show, and showed video of his most recent famous endorser: Sarah Palin.

Fox News showed no signs of giving in to Mr. Trump’s displeasure with the questioning, stating just a week following the first debate that all three moderators would again host the debate in January.

On Saturday, it reiterated that stance, saying in a statement: “Megyn Kelly has no conflict of interest. Donald Trump is just trying to build up the audience for Thursday’s debate, for which we thank him.”

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/23/donald-trump-says-megyn-kelly-should-skip-debate-fox-says-shell-be-there/?_r=0

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1031 on: January 25, 2016, 07:53:38 PM »
Incredible how thin-skinned this dude can be.

So many of supporters think this is some sort of positive trait.   "He doesn't take crap from anybody". 

If a media talking head can get under his skin this easily, imagine when global superpowers do it.  "i'm tougher than you" doesn't work when they're lending us $.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1032 on: January 26, 2016, 03:41:40 PM »
Fox News announces GOP debate candidate lineup
Published January 26, 2016
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Eight Republican candidates have qualified for the prime-time Fox News/Google debate on Thursday – and once again, Donald Trump has snagged the center-stage slot.

This time, though, Rand Paul also qualified for the main event, after missing the cut in the last debate.

Fox News announced the candidate lineup Tuesday evening.

The participants qualifying for the prime-time, 9 p.m. ET debate are:

Billionaire businessman Trump; Texas Sen. Ted Cruz; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio; retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson; former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; Ohio Gov. John Kasich; and Kentucky Sen. Paul.

The participants qualifying for the earlier, 7 p.m. ET debate are:

Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina; former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee; former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum; and former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore.

The lineup reflects a polling boost for Paul, who did not qualify for the most recent Fox Business Network prime-time debate earlier this month, and declined to participate in the evening event.

The Fox News/Google debate in Des Moines this Thursday will be the candidates’ last before next week’s Iowa caucuses – which kicks off the Republican presidential nominating process.

In the run-up, the candidates are significantly ramping up their ad spending and shoe-leather campaigning, while going after each other in the process. 

After clashing at the most recent GOP debate, Iowa front-runners Trump and Cruz have only turned up their attacks in recent days – particularly as Trump regains his Iowa lead over Cruz in most polls. The race, though, remains close. The latest Quinnipiac University poll showed Trump leading Cruz just 31-29 percent in Iowa.

Cruz said Tuesday that “no state is a must-win for us.” But the reality is his campaign is fighting hard for an Iowa victory, as Trump maintains a huge polling lead in the next contest: the New Hampshire primary.

One new ad from a Cruz-supporting super PAC is accusing Trump of being aligned with Democrats on “government-run health care.” Another from the Cruz campaign returns to the well of criticizing Trump’s “New York values,” while playing a clip of him saying, “How stupid are the people of Iowa?”

Trump, meanwhile, called Cruz a “liar” in an MSNBC interview Tuesday.

“Nobody likes him,” Trump said, attempting to draw a contrast with his own business experience by saying Cruz can’t make a deal with anybody.

The debate on Thursday will be moderated by Fox News anchors Bret Baier, Megyn Kelly and Chris Wallace.

The candidate lineup was decided based on the results of national, New Hampshire and Iowa polling – released before 5 p.m. ET on Tuesday.

To qualify for the prime-time debate, a candidate had to place in the top six in an average of recent national polls, or in the top five in an average of recent Iowa or New Hampshire polls. ‎The evening debate features other candidates who received a minimum 1 percent in at least one recent national poll.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/26/fox-news-announces-gop-debate-candidate-lineup.html?intcmp=hpbt1

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1033 on: January 26, 2016, 05:53:39 PM »
Good.  He is incredibly weak-minded.

Trump will ‘definitely not’ participate in Fox debate, campaign says
By Ed O'Keefe and Philip Rucker
January 26, 2016   
Trump: 'Most likely, I won't be doing the debate' 

MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa -- Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump says he will not attend a debate scheduled for Thursday night in Des Moines, an unexpected twist just days before voters here launch the election process.

"I probably won't be doing the debate. I'm going to have something else in Iowa," he said during a press conference on Tuesday afternoon.

After the press conference, Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski confirmed to The Washington Post that Trump would "definitely not" participate in Thursday's Fox News debate.

“He’s definitely not participating in the Fox News debate," Lewandowski said. "His word is his bond."

He said Trump would remain in Iowa as planned and would instead host an event in the state to raise money for wounded warriors and other veterans groups.

Trump has made such threats before, but he said that the Fox News Channel, which is hosting the debate Thursday night, had gone too far by issuing press statements on Tuesday that he said mocked his concern about Megyn Kelly, one of the debate co-moderators.

"They're dealing with someone who's a little bit different. They can't toy with me like they toy with everybody else," he added.

When Trump saw the press release from Fox, "I said, 'Bye bye,'" he said.

Trump said his event on Thursday will benefit military veterans and service members wounded in war.

Although Trump said there had been too many Republican debates, Lewandowki said the decision applied only to the Fox News debate and that he would be open to participating in future debates.

Earlier Tuesday, Fox News Channel President Roger Ailes told The Post that "Megyn Kelly is an excellent journalist, and the entire network stands behind her. She will absolutely be on the debate stage on Thursday night."

Later, the network poked fun at Trump in a satirical statement: "We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president. A nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings."

Trump's feud with Kelly began during the first debate in August, when she questioned him about disparaging remarks he has made about women with her opening question.

Trump made his surprise announcement during a press conference in a high school workout gym, within steps of about a dozen stationary bikes. The combative exchange with reporters delayed the start of his event by nearly an hour.

In the gymnasium packed with thousands, Trump sat on a stage for a rare Q&A session with a local radio host who asked mostly friendly questions about his economic and tax policy. The candidate never told the crowd what he had told reporters and only hinted at his decision at the end of the 45-minute event.

“Fox News is fine, I have no objection to Fox News, but they have to treat people fairly and they can’t take advantage of people,” he said. "I made a little announcement before, not a big deal, but it’s sort of an interesting period of time.”

People leaving the event said that they didn’t know what Trump was referring to when he mentioned Fox. When told of his decision, opinion split sharply between disbelief, disagreement and total support.

Marcia Ziel, a retiree from Marshalltown, Iowa, disagreed with Trump’s assertion that Fox has been unfair to him.

“I’ve watched the debates and I’m sorry, but Fox has done a terrific job with the debates. I’m surprised,” she said.

His decision is likely to disappoint many Iowans, she added, but “I don’t think it’ll change their vote, but it would be very disappointing.”

Matt Tyda, of Marshalltown, said Trump’s decision “means nothing to me. The media, you can’t believe anything, especially anything Fox News says, wants or does.” He cited recent reporting by the network that appeared to mock Republican Sen. Rand Paul as an example of the network’s poor coverage.

“Fox News is a joke,” he added.

Karen Farmer, a retiree from Cedar Rapids, said she’d traveled to the event to hear what Trump had to say about Social Security. Told about his decision, she shook her head in disbelief.

“I would think that he would show up in the debate and I think he will,” she said. “He’ll be there.”

Trump is scheduled to appear later Tuesday in Iowa City. On Wednesday, he is scheduled to travel to Lexington, S.C., for a rally before returning to Iowa, presumably for his veterans-themed event.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/26/trump-will-definitely-not-participate-in-fox-debate-campaign-says/?tid=sm_fb

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1034 on: January 26, 2016, 10:11:09 PM »
Good.  He is incredibly weak-minded.

Trump has had a plan for every step of the way in this nomination process.  I think this is no different. Trying to preserve a lead?  Trying to be a rebel?  Trying to win moderates by dissing FOX news?

I think he knows exactly what he's doing, and it's part of his plan, and something he didn't decide today.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1035 on: January 27, 2016, 06:54:00 AM »

FLASHBACK: Ronald Reagan Skipped Last Debate Before IA Caucus – Went on to Win in Landslide


Trump isn't the first top-tier presidential candidate to skip a debate. Ronald Reagan did not attend a Republican debate ahead of the 1980 Iowa caucuses, which he lost to George H.W. Bush. Reagan went on to the win the nomination and the presidency.






http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/flashback-ronald-reagan-skipped-last-debate-before-ia-caucus-went-on-to-win-in-landslide/

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1036 on: January 27, 2016, 07:04:10 AM »
This reflects worse on Fox than it does Trump, imo.

They were trolling him beforehand.

They are giving the mic to some nutcase who compared him to Hitler. Very unprofessional btw.

It's okay, let the other candidates suck up to her in front of the whole Republican base.  Let's see how well that goes over. And then they are going to have to answer questions about Trump all night and kiss Fox's ass while looking like chumps in the process.

You also had Megyn Kelly yukking it up with Michael Moore during her show last night.

If anything this is going to hurt Fox news credibility more than it is going to hurt Trump.

I think we are seeing a real shift in the power these big news organizations. They don't have near the sway they once had with the new type of internet media coming in.

People are jumping on Trump because they obviously hate him and can't see past that but Fox is going to take a hit in this, no question about it.

Trump is going to war with the media and he's winning. Which is also a great position to be in because people hate the media.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1038 on: January 27, 2016, 09:35:50 AM »
This reflects worse on Fox than it does Trump, imo.

They were trolling him beforehand.

They are giving the mic to some nutcase who compared him to Hitler. Very unprofessional btw.

It's okay, let the other candidates suck up to her in front of the whole Republican base.  Let's see how well that goes over. And then they are going to have to answer questions about Trump all night and kiss Fox's ass while looking like chumps in the process.

You also had Megyn Kelly yukking it up with Michael Moore during her show last night.

If anything this is going to hurt Fox news credibility more than it is going to hurt Trump.

I think we are seeing a real shift in the power these big news organizations. They don't have near the sway they once had with the new type of internet media coming in.

People are jumping on Trump because they obviously hate him and can't see past that but Fox is going to take a hit in this, no question about it.

Trump is going to war with the media and he's winning. Which is also a great position to be in because people hate the media.

Well he did force the media to talk about him, but I think this will hurt him.  This is nothing like the CNBC debacle, where the moderators were unquestionably biased.  This arises out of one question by Megyn Kelly that she asked months ago.  It really shows what a poor leader Trump would be. 

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« Reply #1039 on: January 27, 2016, 09:58:01 AM »
Well he did force the media to talk about him, but I think this will hurt him.  This is nothing like the CNBC debacle, where the moderators were unquestionably biased.  This arises out of one question by Megyn Kelly that she asked months ago.  It really shows what a poor leader Trump would be. 

What Fox did is worse.

You are supposed to fairly "moderate" a debate and you are sending out an official press release mocking one of the candidates the day before the debate? That's insane and a total abuse of power.

It's incredible the pass people are giving Fox News over this because of their hatred towards Trump.

How can we take this company serious when they are behaving in this way?

I get it...Trump says crazy things all the time. He's a candidate. You are supposed to be a news organization. You are held to a higher standard.

Long term this is really going to be a black eye for Fox.

Is this going to be the norm from the media now? Mocking the candidates leading up to the debate?

If the man doesn't want to do the debate then report it and put together a group of commentators to discuss it. 

But the need to send out a press release from a Fox spokesperson bashing the guy?? Completely unprofessional.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1040 on: January 27, 2016, 10:02:09 AM »
What Fox did is worse.

You are supposed to fairly "moderate" a debate and you are sending out an official press release mocking one of the candidates the day before the debate? That's insane and a total abuse of power.

It's incredible the pass people are giving Fox News over this because of their hatred towards Trump.

How can we take this company serious when they are behaving in this way?

I get it...Trump says crazy things all the time. He's a candidate. You are supposed to be a news organization. You are held to a higher standard.

Long term this is really going to be a black eye for Fox.

Is this going to be the norm from the media now? Mocking the candidates leading up to the debate?

If the man doesn't want to do the debate then report it and put together a group of commentators to discuss it. 

But the need to send out a press release from a Fox spokesperson bashing the guy?? Completely unprofessional.

I agree they shouldn't have sent the satire tweet, although Trump had it coming.  He has been trashing various members of the network for months.  He then acts butt hurt when they respond.  How weak is that?   

Just look at what he does when someone decides to endorse another candidate:

Donald Trump attacks evangelical leader in Iowa who endorsed Ted Cruz
By Jenna Johnson January 26, 2016
 
As an influential evangelical Iowan, Bob Vander Plaats experienced what it was like to be friends with Donald Trump. The New York billionaire invited Vander Plaats and his family to visit New York several times, refusing to allow them to pay to stay at one of his hotels and lavishing kindness.

Then Vander Plaats — president of the Family Leader, which is opposed to abortion and gay marriage — decided to endorse Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) for president instead of Trump. On Tuesday, Trump skewered Vander Plaats on Twitter, calling him "phony" and "a bad guy." The attacks came as Trump announced that Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. had endorsed him.

"It's Donald Trump exposed: He wants to be your friend when he thinks he can get something in return for that friendship," Vander Plaats said Tuesday in an interview. "In Iowa, we look at friendship as what we can do for our friends, not what our friends can do for us."

Vander Plaats said he has seen others receive the same sort of 180-degree treatment from Trump. Trump once praised Fox News's Megyn Kelly but is now trying to have her removed as a moderator for the upcoming GOP debate because he believes she asks unfair questions. The entire Republican establishment was once slammed by Trump but now appears to be in his good graces.

"It just shows a guy that gets tossed about to and fro too easily," Vander Plaats said. "I think that kind of pride and arrogance leads to unstable temperament and judgment."

Vander Plaats said he endorsed Cruz over Trump because the billionaire businessman's record on abortion and gay marriage is "a mixed bag." He said that he was concerned when Trump said at a forum with evangelicals in Iowa last summer that he does not seek forgiveness from God. Vander Plaats was also put off by Trump's attacks on Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam War veteran. The final straw: when Trump appeared to mock the physical disability of a New York Times reporter. Vander Plaats said he was also dismayed to hear Trump joke that he could shoot someone and still not lose support.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/26/donald-trump-attacks-evangelical-leader-in-iowa-who-endorsed-ted-cruz/

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1041 on: January 27, 2016, 10:05:23 AM »
Just look at what he does when someone decides to endorse another candidate:

things are EASY for trump right now.  He's the frontrunner, with billions to spend he hasn't touched, and he's likely to cakewalk to the nomination.

And he's STILL acting this immature, reactionary, and petty.  IMAGINE what happens when he's the leader of the free world... and things don't go his way.  making these big scenes, storming out of G8 summits, etc?

Trump is a drama queen.  I cannot believe nobody else is saying it.  He always has to be in the middle of some dispute, some feud.  And for a man who says we need to get tough, we need to stop being politically correct - he sure does turn into a wimp the second anyone says anything HE disagrees with.   I guess that act only works one way.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1042 on: January 27, 2016, 10:07:22 AM »
I agree they shouldn't have sent the satire tweet, although Trump had it coming.  He has been trashing various members of the network for months.  He then acts butt hurt when they respond.  How weak is that?   

Just look at what he does when someone decides to endorse another candidate:

Donald Trump attacks evangelical leader in Iowa who endorsed Ted Cruz
By Jenna Johnson January 26, 2016
 
As an influential evangelical Iowan, Bob Vander Plaats experienced what it was like to be friends with Donald Trump. The New York billionaire invited Vander Plaats and his family to visit New York several times, refusing to allow them to pay to stay at one of his hotels and lavishing kindness.

Then Vander Plaats — president of the Family Leader, which is opposed to abortion and gay marriage — decided to endorse Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) for president instead of Trump. On Tuesday, Trump skewered Vander Plaats on Twitter, calling him "phony" and "a bad guy." The attacks came as Trump announced that Liberty University President Jerry Falwell Jr. had endorsed him.

"It's Donald Trump exposed: He wants to be your friend when he thinks he can get something in return for that friendship," Vander Plaats said Tuesday in an interview. "In Iowa, we look at friendship as what we can do for our friends, not what our friends can do for us."

Vander Plaats said he has seen others receive the same sort of 180-degree treatment from Trump. Trump once praised Fox News's Megyn Kelly but is now trying to have her removed as a moderator for the upcoming GOP debate because he believes she asks unfair questions. The entire Republican establishment was once slammed by Trump but now appears to be in his good graces.

"It just shows a guy that gets tossed about to and fro too easily," Vander Plaats said. "I think that kind of pride and arrogance leads to unstable temperament and judgment."

Vander Plaats said he endorsed Cruz over Trump because the billionaire businessman's record on abortion and gay marriage is "a mixed bag." He said that he was concerned when Trump said at a forum with evangelicals in Iowa last summer that he does not seek forgiveness from God. Vander Plaats was also put off by Trump's attacks on Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam War veteran. The final straw: when Trump appeared to mock the physical disability of a New York Times reporter. Vander Plaats said he was also dismayed to hear Trump joke that he could shoot someone and still not lose support.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/01/26/donald-trump-attacks-evangelical-leader-in-iowa-who-endorsed-ted-cruz/

I don't care if it's the most radical, controversial candidate ever, as a news organization you don't do that to a candidate the day before a debate.

Absolutely disgusting what Fox did and it's a significant shot against their integrity.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1043 on: January 27, 2016, 10:23:27 AM »
I don't care if it's the most radical, controversial candidate ever, as a news organization you don't do that to a candidate the day before a debate.

Absolutely disgusting what Fox did and it's a significant shot against their integrity.

Inappropriate, yes.  Disgusting?  Meh.  I don't really care.  I'd actually call the plethora of comments Trump has made disgusting. 

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1044 on: January 27, 2016, 10:32:50 AM »
What Fox did is worse.

You are supposed to fairly "moderate" a debate and you are sending out an official press release mocking one of the candidates the day before the debate? That's insane and a total abuse of power.

It's incredible the pass people are giving Fox News over this because of their hatred towards Trump.

How can we take this company serious when they are behaving in this way?

I get it...Trump says crazy things all the time. He's a candidate. You are supposed to be a news organization. You are held to a higher standard.

Long term this is really going to be a black eye for Fox.

Is this going to be the norm from the media now? Mocking the candidates leading up to the debate?

If the man doesn't want to do the debate then report it and put together a group of commentators to discuss it. 

But the need to send out a press release from a Fox spokesperson bashing the guy?? Completely unprofessional.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1045 on: January 27, 2016, 10:37:04 AM »
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Vander Plaats said he has seen others receive the same sort of 180-degree treatment from Trump.

He should have seen it coming, then.  What's his point?

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1046 on: January 27, 2016, 10:39:13 AM »
And Vander Plaats should stop trying to pretend to be some kind of a saint.  Because you know he isn't.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1047 on: January 27, 2016, 10:57:37 AM »


Fox News Statement Taunting Trump Was ‘100 Percent’ Roger Ailes

As the war between Fox News and Donald Trump ratchets up, Roger Ailes is fighting off criticism from his senior executives over his handling of the crisis. According to one highly placed source, last night, Ailes sent out the now-famous statement mocking Trump as being scared to meet with the "Ayatollah" and "Putin" if he became president. "That was Roger 100 percent," the source explained. "A lot of people on the second floor" -- where top Fox executives work -- "didn't think it was a good idea."

Fox executives are also troubled that Ailes's principal adviser right now is his longtime personal lawyer and Fox & Friends contributor Peter Johnson Jr. "He wrote the statement with Peter," the source explained. "Peter is running the war room," another Ailes friend told me. Fox executives are worried that Ailes is relying on an attorney with scant communications experience as the network is reeling from the biggest PR crisis in recent memory. Historically, during a crisis like this Ailes would have huddled with his veteran communications guru Brian Lewis. But Ailes fired Lewis in 2013 over his concerns that Lewis had been a source for my 2014 Ailes biography. Since Lewis's ouster, Johnson has taken on the role of media counselor.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/ fox-statement-taunting-trump-was-all-roger-ailes.html

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1048 on: January 29, 2016, 12:44:47 PM »
The Fox News/Google debate without Trump was a breath of fresh air.  Props to Megyn Kelly for staying and asking tough questions.  She is terrific. 

They all did a decent job.  The only real problems I saw were Cruz and Rubio really looking bad when answering's Kelly's amnesty questions.  Not their finest hour. 

Christie always does a good job.  It's too bad he peaked so early.

Both Cruz and Rubio are excellent debaters and would kick Hillary's butt IMO.   

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #1049 on: January 29, 2016, 01:41:28 PM »
Link to the seventh debate.