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Title: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 30, 2023, 08:58:16 PM
That was meant to be on this day to distract from…

Comer having Corn Pops banking records from the CCP

Hunter admitting to Biden family deals with China for millions after Corn Pop denied it

The Nashville school shooting that was caused by a mentally Ill Trans and after Corn Pop said she used 2 AK 47’s when it really was a Kel-Tec 9mm making the entire “assault weapon” narrative fall to shit

Shaman being released today because of bomb dropped videos by McCarthy to Tucker Carlson

Let me know if I left anything out..
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 31, 2023, 05:56:31 AM
Distract... distract... distract...

It's funny that Trumpturds can not multitask mentally or think more than one thought at a time.  ADHD in masses must be a bitch.

Shaman was released because of good behavior credit.  Simple facts.  But yes, I can understand why it confuses you.



 ::)
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: The Gov on March 31, 2023, 07:20:59 AM
Distract... distract... distract...

It's funny that Trumpturds can not multitask mentally or think more than one thought at a time.  ADHD in masses must be a bitch.

Shaman was released because of good behavior credit.  Simple facts.  But yes, I can understand why it confuses you.



 ::)


written like a child -----> what you are attracted to.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 31, 2023, 07:26:22 AM
Foreign c unts melting down over Trumpy's indictment.   Good times!
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Dos Equis on April 03, 2023, 02:49:36 PM
Trump Adds White Collar Lawyer Todd Blanche To Defense Team As Tacopina Denies He’s Been ‘Sidelined’
Sara Dorn
Forbes Staff
Apr 3, 2023
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/04/03/trump-adds-white-collar-lawyer-todd-blanche-to-defense-team-as-tacopina-denies-hes-been-sidelined/?sh=2aa7480b6a61
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2023, 03:01:39 PM
Apparently not too many people are fond of his current one.

Trump's Team Is Reportedly Sick Of His 'Loudmouth' Lawyer
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-lawyers-joe-tacopina_n_642a2165e4b00c951752bb8c
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Dos Equis on April 03, 2023, 03:17:11 PM
Apparently not too many people are fond of his current one.

Trump's Team Is Reportedly Sick Of His 'Loudmouth' Lawyer
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-lawyers-joe-tacopina_n_642a2165e4b00c951752bb8c

Doesn't sound like a legitimate source.

Citing a source familiar with the matter and another person close to Trump, Rolling Stone reported that Trump’s other current lawyers privately described Tacopina as “dumb” and a “loudmouth.” Trump’s attorneys and advisers have warned the former president to be wary of Tacopina and told him he can’t trust the lawyer’s loyalty, the sources said. Another source dismissed Tacopina as “such a frickin’ idiot,” Rolling Stone reported.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2023, 03:26:08 PM
Doesn't sound like a legitimate source.

Citing a source familiar with the matter and another person close to Trump, Rolling Stone reported that Trump’s other current lawyers privately described Tacopina as “dumb” and a “loudmouth.” Trump’s attorneys and advisers have warned the former president to be wary of Tacopina and told him he can’t trust the lawyer’s loyalty, the sources said. Another source dismissed Tacopina as “such a frickin’ idiot,” Rolling Stone reported.

Maybe not.  But then again it would not be the first time that people in his orbit turned on one another and bashed them.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2023, 03:27:48 PM
Apparently not too many people are fond of his current one.

Trump's Team Is Reportedly Sick Of His 'Loudmouth' Lawyer
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-lawyers-joe-tacopina_n_642a2165e4b00c951752bb8c

When is a lie a lie or not a lie... Tacopino's response is out of this world.

00:06:33
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2023, 03:56:23 PM
When is a lie a lie or not a lie... Tacopino's response is out of this world.

00:06:33

It's only going to get better from this point out. 
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 03, 2023, 04:17:16 PM
It's only going to get better from this point out.

You have no idea how much better this will get lololol
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 03, 2023, 04:24:19 PM
You have no idea how much better this will get lololol

Just the opposite of how you think it will.  As things always turn out.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Dos Equis on April 03, 2023, 05:03:20 PM
Maybe not.  But then again it would not be the first time that people in his orbit turned on one another and bashed them.

There are unnamed sources and then this directly from Trump's lawyer:  "There is no lead," Tacopina told Fox News Digital. "We are one team, one family with one mission."
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: jude2 on April 03, 2023, 05:19:06 PM
I sure hope they have this all live on TV for us to see what is going on for ourselves.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Primemuscle on April 03, 2023, 06:10:36 PM
You have no idea how much better this will get lololol

Neither do you, but one can always hope. lololol
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 03, 2023, 09:20:00 PM
Here's a list you won't see on MSNBC/CNN, etc.

So much for equal treatment under the law.



    1) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence.

    2) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by sending classified government communications on her own, through an unsecured home-brewed server.

    3) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiring—through three paywalls—a foreign national, who is prohibited from working on presidential campaigns, to compile a dossier to smear her presidential opponent.

    4) Trump did not violate federal campaign laws, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiding her payments (as “legal services”) to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions.

    5) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, use a crony to search out a high-paying New York job for a paramour in order to influence her testimony before a special counsel.

    6) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, receive a $500,000 “honorarium” for speaking in Moscow while his wife, our secretary of state, approved a longstanding and lucrative desire of the Kremlin for North American uranium to be sold to a Russian consortium.

    7) Trump did not, as did Barack Obama, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be “flexible” on “missile defense” if during his own reelection bid Putin in return would give him “space”. That quid pro quo arrangement led to the U.S. abandonment of key joint missile defense systems with Poland and the Czech Republic, and, reciprocally, less than two years later a Russia invasion, mostly unopposed by the United States, of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.

    8) Trump did not boast publicly, as did Joe Biden, that he used U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into the Biden family’s efforts to sell influence to corrupt Ukrainian interests.

    9) Trump did not, as the Bidens did, set up a family consortium to leverage monies from Ukraine, Russia, and China, on their shared expectations that he might soon run for and be elected president and become compromised. Trump is not mentioned, as is Joe Biden, in family business communications as a recipient of a 10 percent commission on such payoffs.

    10) Trump did not, unlike Joe Biden, remove presidential papers—without any authority to declassify them—and leave them scattered and unsecured in a garage and various residences and offices.

    11) Trump did not, as did the FBI, wipe clean subpoenaed mobile phone records.

    12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators.

    13) Trump did not, as did CIA Director John Brennan, admittedly lie on two occasions while under oath to the U.S. Congress.

    14) Trump did not, as did Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admittedly lie on one occasion to the U.S. Congress.

    15) Trump did not, as did James Comey, claim amnesia or ignorance 245 times while under oath before the U.S. Congress.

    16) Trump did not, as did FBI Director James Comey, summarize a confidential private conversation with a president and then deliberately leak that classified memo to the media for his own agenda of appointing a special counsel to investigate the president—which turned out to be his friend Robert Mueller.

    17) Trump did not, as did Robert Mueller, claim ignorance while under oath when asked about the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS, the catalysts for Mueller’s own investigation.

    18) Trump did not, as did private citizen and former secretary of state John Kerry, meet clandestinely while out of office with Iranian officials to help them resist  current U.S. policy toward Iran—or what the Boston Globe characterized as “unusual shadow diplomacy” to “apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.”

    19) Trump did not, as did the FBI and CIA, pay clandestine money to Twitter to monitor and smother news stories deemed unhelpful to their agendas.

    20) Trump did not, as did then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, whip up a mob at the doors of the Supreme Court by threatening two sitting justices by name to intimidate them concerning an impending judicial ruling: “I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you.” In subsequent months, mobs of protestors swarmed the private homes of these two named justices to influence their decisions, a federal crime that was ignored by Attorney General Merrick Garland, but not by a self-confessed, potential assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh who later turned up in the neighborhood.


https://amgreatness.com/2023/04/02/indict-one-and-all/
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: illuminati on April 03, 2023, 10:33:42 PM
Here's a list you won't see on MSNBC/CNN, etc.

So much for equal treatment under the law.



    1) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence.

    2) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by sending classified government communications on her own, through an unsecured home-brewed server.

    3) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiring—through three paywalls—a foreign national, who is prohibited from working on presidential campaigns, to compile a dossier to smear her presidential opponent.

    4) Trump did not violate federal campaign laws, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiding her payments (as “legal services”) to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions.

    5) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, use a crony to search out a high-paying New York job for a paramour in order to influence her testimony before a special counsel.

    6) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, receive a $500,000 “honorarium” for speaking in Moscow while his wife, our secretary of state, approved a longstanding and lucrative desire of the Kremlin for North American uranium to be sold to a Russian consortium.

    7) Trump did not, as did Barack Obama, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be “flexible” on “missile defense” if during his own reelection bid Putin in return would give him “space”. That quid pro quo arrangement led to the U.S. abandonment of key joint missile defense systems with Poland and the Czech Republic, and, reciprocally, less than two years later a Russia invasion, mostly unopposed by the United States, of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.

    8) Trump did not boast publicly, as did Joe Biden, that he used U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into the Biden family’s efforts to sell influence to corrupt Ukrainian interests.

    9) Trump did not, as the Bidens did, set up a family consortium to leverage monies from Ukraine, Russia, and China, on their shared expectations that he might soon run for and be elected president and become compromised. Trump is not mentioned, as is Joe Biden, in family business communications as a recipient of a 10 percent commission on such payoffs.

    10) Trump did not, unlike Joe Biden, remove presidential papers—without any authority to declassify them—and leave them scattered and unsecured in a garage and various residences and offices.

    11) Trump did not, as did the FBI, wipe clean subpoenaed mobile phone records.

    12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators.

    13) Trump did not, as did CIA Director John Brennan, admittedly lie on two occasions while under oath to the U.S. Congress.

    14) Trump did not, as did Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admittedly lie on one occasion to the U.S. Congress.

    15) Trump did not, as did James Comey, claim amnesia or ignorance 245 times while under oath before the U.S. Congress.

    16) Trump did not, as did FBI Director James Comey, summarize a confidential private conversation with a president and then deliberately leak that classified memo to the media for his own agenda of appointing a special counsel to investigate the president—which turned out to be his friend Robert Mueller.

    17) Trump did not, as did Robert Mueller, claim ignorance while under oath when asked about the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS, the catalysts for Mueller’s own investigation.

    18) Trump did not, as did private citizen and former secretary of state John Kerry, meet clandestinely while out of office with Iranian officials to help them resist  current U.S. policy toward Iran—or what the Boston Globe characterized as “unusual shadow diplomacy” to “apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.”

    19) Trump did not, as did the FBI and CIA, pay clandestine money to Twitter to monitor and smother news stories deemed unhelpful to their agendas.

    20) Trump did not, as did then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, whip up a mob at the doors of the Supreme Court by threatening two sitting justices by name to intimidate them concerning an impending judicial ruling: “I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you.” In subsequent months, mobs of protestors swarmed the private homes of these two named justices to influence their decisions, a federal crime that was ignored by Attorney General Merrick Garland, but not by a self-confessed, potential assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh who later turned up in the neighborhood.


https://amgreatness.com/2023/04/02/indict-one-and-all/

Thats an extensive list - why are they not under investigation & charges ??

One rule of law for Donald & Fuck all for the others it appears.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2023, 06:41:13 AM
There are unnamed sources and then this directly from Trump's lawyer:  "There is no lead," Tacopina told Fox News Digital. "We are one team, one family with one mission."

Well that sort of sounds exactly like what he would say in this case.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 04, 2023, 08:59:23 AM
wah
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Gym Rat on April 04, 2023, 09:51:24 AM
The Shitters in on the charade?

It only makes Orange guy that more epic and bad-ass...  LOL   ::)


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Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: funk51 on April 04, 2023, 11:35:16 AM
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Donald Trump has been arrested, as New York law enforcement continues its extended investigation into the former president’s involvement in a “hush money” scheme with adult film actress Stormy Daniels. Although he will not be handcuffed, take a mug shot or be given a perp walk, he was effectively arrested when he surrendered to the court.

The April 4 arraignment is about to take place in a Lower Manhattan courtroom. Trump was spotted leaving Trump Tower in Manhattan around 1:10 pm EST and then drove downtown in a large motorcade. On the walk from Trump Tower to his vehicle, Trump held his fist up and also waved. He also addressed the crowd in the same way when walking from the vehicle to the courthouse.

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On the way to the arraignment, which is scheduled for 2:15 pm EST, Trump took to his social media website, Truth Social, to write, “Heading to Lower Manhattan, the Courthouse. Seems so SURREAL — WOW, they are going to ARREST ME. Can’t believe this is happening in America. MAGA!”

NEW YORK, NEW YORK – APRIL 04: Former U.S. President Donald Trump pumps his fist as he departs Trump Tower for his arraignment on April 04, 2023 in New York, New York. Trump will be arraigned during his first court appearance today following an indictment by a grand jury that heard evidence about money paid to adult film star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election. With the indictment, Trump becomes the first former U.S. president in history to be charged with a criminal offense. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
NEW YORK, NEW YORK – APRIL 04: Former U.S. President Donald Trump pumps his fist as he departs Trump Tower for his arraignment on April 04, 2023 in New York, New York. Trump will be arraigned during his first court appearance today following an indictment by a grand jury that heard evidence about money paid to adult film star Stormy Daniels before the 2016 presidential election. With the indictment, Trump becomes the first former U.S. president in history to be charged with a criminal offense. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
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On March 18, Trump publicly declared that he believed his arrest to be imminent. The arrest comes as Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg continues to look into Trump’s involvement in paying adult film star Stormy Daniels a sum of $130,000 to stay silent and remain private about their alleged 2006 affair.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2023, 01:01:41 PM
Here's a list you won't see on MSNBC/CNN, etc.

So much for equal treatment under the law.



    1) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence.

    2) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by sending classified government communications on her own, through an unsecured home-brewed server.

    3) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiring—through three paywalls—a foreign national, who is prohibited from working on presidential campaigns, to compile a dossier to smear her presidential opponent.

    4) Trump did not violate federal campaign laws, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiding her payments (as “legal services”) to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions.

    5) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, use a crony to search out a high-paying New York job for a paramour in order to influence her testimony before a special counsel.

    6) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, receive a $500,000 “honorarium” for speaking in Moscow while his wife, our secretary of state, approved a longstanding and lucrative desire of the Kremlin for North American uranium to be sold to a Russian consortium.

    7) Trump did not, as did Barack Obama, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be “flexible” on “missile defense” if during his own reelection bid Putin in return would give him “space”. That quid pro quo arrangement led to the U.S. abandonment of key joint missile defense systems with Poland and the Czech Republic, and, reciprocally, less than two years later a Russia invasion, mostly unopposed by the United States, of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.

    8) Trump did not boast publicly, as did Joe Biden, that he used U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into the Biden family’s efforts to sell influence to corrupt Ukrainian interests.

    9) Trump did not, as the Bidens did, set up a family consortium to leverage monies from Ukraine, Russia, and China, on their shared expectations that he might soon run for and be elected president and become compromised. Trump is not mentioned, as is Joe Biden, in family business communications as a recipient of a 10 percent commission on such payoffs.

    10) Trump did not, unlike Joe Biden, remove presidential papers—without any authority to declassify them—and leave them scattered and unsecured in a garage and various residences and offices.

    11) Trump did not, as did the FBI, wipe clean subpoenaed mobile phone records.

    12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators.

    13) Trump did not, as did CIA Director John Brennan, admittedly lie on two occasions while under oath to the U.S. Congress.

    14) Trump did not, as did Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admittedly lie on one occasion to the U.S. Congress.

    15) Trump did not, as did James Comey, claim amnesia or ignorance 245 times while under oath before the U.S. Congress.

    16) Trump did not, as did FBI Director James Comey, summarize a confidential private conversation with a president and then deliberately leak that classified memo to the media for his own agenda of appointing a special counsel to investigate the president—which turned out to be his friend Robert Mueller.

    17) Trump did not, as did Robert Mueller, claim ignorance while under oath when asked about the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS, the catalysts for Mueller’s own investigation.

    18) Trump did not, as did private citizen and former secretary of state John Kerry, meet clandestinely while out of office with Iranian officials to help them resist  current U.S. policy toward Iran—or what the Boston Globe characterized as “unusual shadow diplomacy” to “apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.”

    19) Trump did not, as did the FBI and CIA, pay clandestine money to Twitter to monitor and smother news stories deemed unhelpful to their agendas.

    20) Trump did not, as did then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, whip up a mob at the doors of the Supreme Court by threatening two sitting justices by name to intimidate them concerning an impending judicial ruling: “I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you.” In subsequent months, mobs of protestors swarmed the private homes of these two named justices to influence their decisions, a federal crime that was ignored by Attorney General Merrick Garland, but not by a self-confessed, potential assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh who later turned up in the neighborhood.


https://amgreatness.com/2023/04/02/indict-one-and-all/

One thing Trump did do which you conveniently neglected to mention was get arrested and arraigned with 34 counts/charges against him.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 04, 2023, 01:15:37 PM
One thing Trump did do which you conveniently neglected to mention was get arrested and arraigned with 34 counts/charges against him.


The left uses the middle and right's decency against them. You should have concern for how this affects everyone under the law - but you aren't.

Amazing how TV can radicalize a geezer who should be set in their ways.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2023, 02:13:28 PM
One thing Trump did do which you conveniently neglected to mention was get arrested and arraigned with 34 counts/charges against him.

Or get impeached twice.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2023, 02:28:31 PM

The left uses the middle and right's decency against them. You should have concern for how this affects everyone under the law - but you aren't.

Amazing how TV can radicalize a geezer who should be set in their ways.

What concerns me most is that historically Trump, even when guilty as sin, has gotten away with a flagrant disregard for the law. I am set in my ways when it comes to the importance of being law abiding and paying the price when you violate the law.

If Trump is innocent of the crimes he was charged with today, he will get off. Unfortunately, if he is guilty of these crimes, it is likely he will still go scot-free, avoid the consequences because of who he is, or he will tie up the court system for so long, he will expire before he can be appropriately punished.

Many people get away with occasionally breaking the law for a while. Most career criminals are eventually caught and brought down.   
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2023, 02:32:51 PM
What concerns me most is that historically Trump, even when guilty as sin, has gotten away with a flagrant disregard for the law. I am set in my ways when it comes to the importance of being law abiding and paying the price when you violate the law.

If Trump is innocent of the crimes he was charged with today, he will get off. Unfortunately, if he is guilty of these crimes, it is likely he will still go scot-free, avoid the consequences because of who he is, or he will tie up the court system for so long, he will expire before he can be appropriately punished.

Many people get away with occasionally breaking the law for a while. Most career criminals are eventually caught and brought down.   

Most likely scenario.  Just reading his social media posts you can literally see his BP taking off like a rocket.   :D 

Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: illuminati on April 04, 2023, 02:44:40 PM
What concerns me most is that historically Trump, even when guilty as sin, has gotten away with a flagrant disregard for the law. I am set in my ways when it comes to the importance of being law abiding and paying the price when you violate the law.

If Trump is innocent of the crimes he was charged with today, he will get off. Unfortunately, if he is guilty of these crimes, it is likely he will still go scot-free, avoid the consequences because of who he is, or he will tie up the court system for so long, he will expire before he can be appropriately punished.

Many people get away with occasionally breaking the law for a while. Most career criminals are eventually caught and brought down.   

Bill / Killary/ O'Bummer/ Paedo Joe & The others mentioned in Someparts post should they also be arrested & charged
As from that list there certainly appears to be much wrong doing / criminal behaviour ??
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Primemuscle on April 04, 2023, 02:49:07 PM
Bill / Killary/ O'Bummer/ Paedo Joe & The others mentioned in Someparts post should they also be arrested & charged
As from that list there certainly appears to be much wrong doing / criminal behaviour ??

Public opinion doesn't get folks convicted, their breaking the law does, eventually.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2023, 02:50:34 PM
Public opinion doesn't get folks convicted, their breaking the law does, eventually.

And certainly not the opinions of foreign liars who can't even participate in US politics.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: illuminati on April 04, 2023, 03:47:30 PM
Public opinion doesn't get folks convicted, their breaking the law does, eventually.

Did none of them Break the Law ??
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: chaos on April 04, 2023, 03:50:10 PM
Here's a list you won't see on MSNBC/CNN, etc.

So much for equal treatment under the law.



    1) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by destroying federally subpoenaed emails and devices in order to hide evidence.

    2) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by sending classified government communications on her own, through an unsecured home-brewed server.

    3) Trump did not violate federal law, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiring—through three paywalls—a foreign national, who is prohibited from working on presidential campaigns, to compile a dossier to smear her presidential opponent.

    4) Trump did not violate federal campaign laws, as did Hillary Clinton, by hiding her payments (as “legal services”) to Christopher Steele through bookkeeping deceptions.

    5) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, use a crony to search out a high-paying New York job for a paramour in order to influence her testimony before a special counsel.

    6) Trump did not, as did Bill Clinton, receive a $500,000 “honorarium” for speaking in Moscow while his wife, our secretary of state, approved a longstanding and lucrative desire of the Kremlin for North American uranium to be sold to a Russian consortium.

    7) Trump did not, as did Barack Obama, promise Vladimir Putin that he would be “flexible” on “missile defense” if during his own reelection bid Putin in return would give him “space”. That quid pro quo arrangement led to the U.S. abandonment of key joint missile defense systems with Poland and the Czech Republic, and, reciprocally, less than two years later a Russia invasion, mostly unopposed by the United States, of eastern Ukraine and the Crimea.

    8) Trump did not boast publicly, as did Joe Biden, that he used U.S. foreign aid monies as leverage to have the Ukrainian government fire a prosecutor who may have been looking into the Biden family’s efforts to sell influence to corrupt Ukrainian interests.

    9) Trump did not, as the Bidens did, set up a family consortium to leverage monies from Ukraine, Russia, and China, on their shared expectations that he might soon run for and be elected president and become compromised. Trump is not mentioned, as is Joe Biden, in family business communications as a recipient of a 10 percent commission on such payoffs.

    10) Trump did not, unlike Joe Biden, remove presidential papers—without any authority to declassify them—and leave them scattered and unsecured in a garage and various residences and offices.

    11) Trump did not, as did the FBI, wipe clean subpoenaed mobile phone records.

    12) Trump did not, as did interim FBI head Andrew McCabe, admittedly lie under oath on four occasions to federal investigators.

    13) Trump did not, as did CIA Director John Brennan, admittedly lie on two occasions while under oath to the U.S. Congress.

    14) Trump did not, as did Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, admittedly lie on one occasion to the U.S. Congress.

    15) Trump did not, as did James Comey, claim amnesia or ignorance 245 times while under oath before the U.S. Congress.

    16) Trump did not, as did FBI Director James Comey, summarize a confidential private conversation with a president and then deliberately leak that classified memo to the media for his own agenda of appointing a special counsel to investigate the president—which turned out to be his friend Robert Mueller.

    17) Trump did not, as did Robert Mueller, claim ignorance while under oath when asked about the Steele dossier and Fusion GPS, the catalysts for Mueller’s own investigation.

    18) Trump did not, as did private citizen and former secretary of state John Kerry, meet clandestinely while out of office with Iranian officials to help them resist  current U.S. policy toward Iran—or what the Boston Globe characterized as “unusual shadow diplomacy” to “apply pressure on the Trump administration from the outside.”

    19) Trump did not, as did the FBI and CIA, pay clandestine money to Twitter to monitor and smother news stories deemed unhelpful to their agendas.

    20) Trump did not, as did then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, whip up a mob at the doors of the Supreme Court by threatening two sitting justices by name to intimidate them concerning an impending judicial ruling: “I want to tell you Gorsuch, I want to tell you Kavanaugh: You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you.” In subsequent months, mobs of protestors swarmed the private homes of these two named justices to influence their decisions, a federal crime that was ignored by Attorney General Merrick Garland, but not by a self-confessed, potential assassin of Justice Brett Kavanaugh who later turned up in the neighborhood.


https://amgreatness.com/2023/04/02/indict-one-and-all/
Democrats will ignore this and keep crying about Trump.

One thing Trump did do which you conveniently neglected to mention was get arrested and arraigned with 34 counts/charges against him.
See?
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Post by: deadz on April 04, 2023, 04:00:38 PM
The Don will have the last laugh!
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 04, 2023, 04:48:44 PM
Democrats will ignore this and keep crying about Trump.
See?

In case you haven't noticed :

1.  This thread is about Trumpy.
2.  The indictment is about Trumpy.
3.  This is another instance of your daily TDfS display that you will conveniently forget and pretend never happened when you ask for an example. 
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 12:14:55 PM
I was waiting to read the indictment before commenting on it.  Now that I've read it, I'm just shocked at how piss poor this thing is.  It's one transaction that they turned into 34 because the legal fees were paid over time.  And the most glaring problem is there is no underlying crime identified in the indictment.  I listened to portions of Bragg's press conference and he was specifically asked why the indictment does not identify the underlying crime.  He responded by saying New York law doesn't require it, then refused to identify any specific underlying crime.  This is Kafkaesque.

Read the full Trump indictment charging him with 34 felony counts
BY CAITLIN YILEK
UPDATED ON: APRIL 4, 2023
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indictment-34-felony-counts-charges-new-york-read/
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 12:29:54 PM
Did none of them Break the Law ??

Where did I say that? What I said was public opinion doesn't determine someone's guilt or innocence the legal system does.
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 12:53:15 PM
Democrats will ignore this and keep crying about Trump.
See?

What crying? My comment is a statement of fact. Your list of possible past crimes by various other people is an opinion statement which could be interpreted as 'crying'. The fact is none of them were indicted, arrested, or charged.

Talk about 'crying', Trump's primetime pity fest broadcast last night from Mar-A-Lago was about as pitiful as it gets. I might have cried had I not been so busy laughing during his entire 21-minute whiny diatribe. 
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2023, 12:55:22 PM
What crying? My comment is a statement of fact. Your list of possible past crimes by various other people is an opinion statement which could be interpreted as 'crying'. The fact is none of them were indicted, arrested, or charged.

Talk about 'crying', Trump's primetime pity fest broadcast last night from Mar-A-Lago was about as pitiful as it gets. I might have cried had I not been so busy laughing during his entire 21-minute whiny diatribe.

^^  TRUTH BOMB!!
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 05, 2023, 01:12:22 PM
This is backfiring better than I had hoped lol
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 01:43:58 PM
This is backfiring better than I had hoped lol

What are the details regarding a backfire? Isn't predicting the outcome of this case a little premature considering the next court date is not until December 4th and may well be pushed out further than that.

On another note. If Judge Juan Merchan didn't hate Trump before, he probably does now after Trump's insinuations put the judge's family in jeopardy.
 
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2023, 01:46:29 PM
This is backfiring better than I had hoped lol

Why does the exact opposite always seem to occur when you make predictions like this?
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2023, 01:47:09 PM
What are the details regarding a backfire? Isn't predicting the outcome of this case a little premature considering the next court date is not until December 4th and may well be pushed out further than that.

On another note. If Judge Juan Merchan didn't hate Trump before, he probably does now after Trump's insinuations put the judge's family in jeopardy.

Don't worry, I am sure he will be back with some Tik Tok videos (that he didn't even watch or understand) as his "proof".
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 01:52:10 PM
Why does the exact opposite always seem to occur when you make predictions like this?

Excellent point. Maybe we should be encouraging Coach's predictions because he seems to have some bad karma going on... or his crystal ball is broken.
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 01:55:50 PM
What are the details regarding a backfire? Isn't predicting the outcome of this case a little premature considering the next court date is not until December 4th and may well be pushed out further than that.

On another note. If Judge Juan Merchan didn't hate Trump before, he probably does now after Trump's insinuations put the judge's family in jeopardy.

The purpose of this indictment is to try and prevent Trump from being reelected.  So far, his donations have skyrocketed, he has dramatically increased his lead in the polls over DeSantis, and is now leading Biden in one head-to-head poll.  So from that standpoint, it is backfiring. 

Plus, when people actually start paying attention to how pathetically weak this thing is, they will understand how nakedly partisan this is.  Banana Republic stuff. 
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 02:16:44 PM
The purpose of this indictment is to try and prevent Trump from being reelected.  So far, his donations have skyrocketed, he has dramatically increased his lead in the polls over DeSantis, and is now leading Biden in one head-to-head poll.  So from that standpoint, it is backfiring. 

Plus, when people actually start paying attention to how pathetically weak this thing is, they will understand how nakedly partisan this is.  Banana Republic stuff.


I still say it is way too soon to know what the outcome will be in 2024. People tend to be sympathetic when the chips are down for someone. Even I felt a tiny bit bad for Trump when seeing the couple of still photos of him in the courtroom where he did not look well at all, but not bad enough to send him money... so there is that.

Yeah, even some of the folks on CNN thought the indictment was 'weak'. From what I read today, folks who know much more about the law than I do seem to have mixed opinions about the case. To be honest, I've not read the entire indictment, just the summaries. Clearly, I am no expert which I why I am not going to make any predictions about the end result. Of course, I will still share my opinions whether folks here want to read them or not.  :)

In my opinion, Trump did himself no favors with his address from Mar-A-Lago last night. I don't think I fully realized how ‘singsong’ his speaking style is. I think it is very annoying but then I am not one of his fans, as we all know.

Where did I very recently hear the Banana Republic comparison? Seems like it is right out of Trump’s playbook.
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 02:21:16 PM

I still say it is way too soon to know what the outcome will be in 2024. People tend to be sympathetic when the chips are down for someone. Even I felt a tiny bit bad for Trump when seeing the couple of still photos of him in the courtroom where he did not look well at all, but not bad enough to send him money... so there is that.

Yeah, even some of the folks on CNN thought the indictment was 'weak'. From what I read today, folks who know much more about the law than I do seem to have mixed opinions about the case. To be honest, I've not read the entire indictment, just the summaries. Clearly, I am no expert which I why I am not going to make any predictions about the end result. Of course, I will still share my opinions whether folks here want to read them or not.  :)

In my opinion, Trump did himself no favors with his address from Mar-A-Lago last night. I don't think I fully realized how ‘singsong’ his speaking style is. I think it is very annoying but then I am not one of his fans, as we all know.

Where did I very recently hear the Banana Republic comparison? Seems like it is right out of Trump’s playbook.

I don't know if Trump referred to this as Banana Republic stuff, because I did not listen to his speech, but if he said it, he is spot on. 

Anyone who cares to educate themselves about this and uses a little common sense can understand how ridiculous and dangerous this is.

I have no idea what will happen in 2024, but I do believe this will help Trump.  It's already helping him.  And I would rather see DeSantis get the nomination. 
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2023, 02:22:27 PM
The purpose of this indictment is to try and prevent Trump from being reelected.  So far, his donations have skyrocketed, he has dramatically increased his lead in the polls over DeSantis, and is now leading Biden in one head-to-head poll.  So from that standpoint, it is backfiring. 

Plus, when people actually start paying attention to how pathetically weak this thing is, they will understand how nakedly partisan this is.  Banana Republic stuff.

Pretty sure the purpose of the indictment is because of a crime occurring.  A misdemeanor charge or conviction for Trumpy will not affecting him running. 

Increasing his lead in the polls over DeSantis?   DeSantis isn't even running.   ::)  It's not hard to be #1 in polls when the 2 or 3 people running against you are flotsam. 
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2023, 02:24:28 PM

I still say it is way too soon to know what the outcome will be in 2024. People tend to be sympathetic when the chips are down for someone. Even I felt a tiny bit bad for Trump when seeing the couple of still photos of him in the courtroom where he did not look well at all, but not bad enough to send him money... so there is that.

Yeah, even some of the folks on CNN thought the indictment was 'weak'. From what I read today, folks who know much more about the law than I do seem to have mixed opinions about the case. To be honest, I've not read the entire indictment, just the summaries. Clearly, I am no expert which I why I am not going to make any predictions about the end result. Of course, I will still share my opinions whether folks here want to read them or not.  :)

In my opinion, Trump did himself no favors with his address from Mar-A-Lago last night. I don't think I fully realized how ‘singsong’ his speaking style is. I think it is very annoying but then I am not one of his fans, as we all know.

Where did I very recently hear the Banana Republic comparison? Seems like it is right out of Trump’s playbook.

You mean like having supporters riot and protest the outcome of an election?  Or trying to sway state electors to commit election fraud for his benefit?  Or attempting to screw the people out of their votes by running multiple lawsuits through the courts to invalidate the election results?  Yeah... that sounds like Banana Republic.
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 02:25:35 PM
Pretty sure the purpose of the indictment is because of a crime occurring.  A misdemeanor charge or conviction for Trumpy will not affecting him running. 

Increasing his lead in the polls over DeSantis?   DeSantis isn't even running.   ::)  It's not hard to be #1 in polls when the 2 or 3 people running against you are flotsam.

O Really?  Did you read the indictment?  If you did, you know that it does not identify an underlying crime. 

I don't know if DeSantis is running, but I don't see a scenario where he beats Trump.  And Trump is not only number 1 in the polls, he is increasing his lead after the indictment, because people like him and understand what a garbage political prosecution this is. 
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2023, 02:30:14 PM
O Really?  Did you read the indictment?  If you did, you know that it does not identify an underlying crime. 

I don't know if DeSantis is running, but I don't see a scenario where he beats Trump.  And Trump is not only number 1 in the polls, he is increasing his lead after the indictment, because people like him and understand what a garbage political prosecution this is.

You know who else Trump is increasing his lead in the polls over?  Joe Blow down the street.  I mean, he hasn't officially declared he is running, but he is losing support.  This is the same scenario comparing DeSantis to any polls at this point. 
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 02:32:10 PM
I don't know if Trump referred to this as Banana Republic stuff, because I did not listen to his speech, but if he said it, he is spot on. 

Anyone who cares to educate themselves about this and uses a little common sense can understand how ridiculous and dangerous this is.

I have no idea what will happen in 2024, but I do believe this will help Trump.  It's already helping him.  And I would rather see DeSantis get the nomination.

You just answered my question. Thanks. For a moment, I thought you'd had a change of heart.

I am curious as to why you did not listen to Trump's speech. In case you decide to watch it, here is some ways to do that. If you do tune it in, I'd be very interested to get your 'take' on it. It is only 21 minutes of your time.

'You've got a few options to watch Trump's post-arraignment speech, and lucky for you, they're free. Catch Trump's remarks on the PBS News YouTube Channel or LiveNOW FOX YouTube Channel, both of which are offering livestreams starting at 8:15 p.m. ET tonight.'

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Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 02:32:23 PM
You know who else Trump is increasing his lead in the polls over?  Joe Blow down the street.  I mean, he hasn't officially declared he is running, but he is losing support.  This is the same scenario comparing DeSantis to any polls at this point.

Not a good comparison.  DeSantis is all over the place making speeches, meeting donors, getting endorsements, etc. 
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 05, 2023, 02:34:00 PM
You mean like having supporters riot and protest the outcome of an election?  Or trying to sway state electors to commit election fraud for his benefit?  Or attempting to screw the people out of their votes by running multiple lawsuits through the courts to invalidate the election results?  Yeah... that sounds like Banana Republic.

These are all good points. Of course, most folks on Getbig won't agree with you.
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 05, 2023, 04:02:40 PM
Not a good comparison.  DeSantis is all over the place making speeches, meeting donors, getting endorsements, etc.

He's a politician.  He's supposed to be doing that any way.  Especially with Mickey Mouse kicking his ass at the moment.
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 05, 2023, 04:59:26 PM
He's a politician.  He's supposed to be doing that any way.  Especially with Mickey Mouse kicking his ass at the moment.

Governors do not typically hit the national scene, discussing national and global issues, etc.  He's clearly operating as someone who is either going to run for POTUS or testing the waters. That's why he is getting endorsements already.

GOP Rep. Thomas Massie endorses DeSantis for 2024
BY MYCHAEL SCHNELL - 04/05/23
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3936164-gop-rep-thomas-massie-endorses-desantis-for-2024/
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: chaos on April 05, 2023, 05:09:04 PM
What crying? My comment is a statement of fact. Your list of possible past crimes by various other people is an opinion statement which could be interpreted as 'crying'. The fact is none of them were indicted, arrested, or charged.

Talk about 'crying', Trump's primetime pity fest broadcast last night from Mar-A-Lago was about as pitiful as it gets. I might have cried had I not been so busy laughing during his entire 21-minute whiny diatribe.
You liberals have been crying like bitches for 8 years about Trump, why aren't you paying attention to current events?


^^  TRUTH BOMB!!
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 06, 2023, 06:14:44 AM
These are all good points. Of course, most folks on Getbig men won't agree with you.
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2023, 07:09:26 AM
You liberals have been crying like bitches for 8 years about Trump, why aren't you paying attention to current events?

You've been crying over Trumpy for just as long.  I bet you were relieved when they decided not to do a strip search.  That way you didn't have to pull your head out of his ass for a single moment.
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Post by: Coach is Back! on April 06, 2023, 08:30:30 AM
You liberals have been crying like bitches for 8 years about Trump, why aren't you paying attention to current events?

Because they’d rather focus on the shiny object that distracts them from current events
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2023, 09:30:41 AM
Because they’d rather focus on the shiny object that distracts them from current events

Unlike you, most people can multitask with their thoughts.   They don’t get distracted by bullshit headlines that they fail to read before dragging them over here.
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2023, 12:15:24 PM
You liberals have been crying like bitches for 8 years about Trump, why aren't you paying attention to current events?

-Interesting how you go from accusing me of crying to it being the all-inclusive 'you liberals crying like bitches... '. Is there a group cry event going on somewhere? I can only speak for myself, which is what I did. -Cannot speak for others and their motivations.
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 06, 2023, 12:25:29 PM
Because they’d rather focus on the shiny object that distracts them from current events

Do you mean current events/shiny objects like those headlines you post which have almost nothing to do with the article's content that actually says the opposite of what the headline implied?

My April 5th post referenced Trump's little pity fest the evening of April 4th from Mar-A-Largo. That event was very current except for people who cannot hold a thought for more than a few seconds. 
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 12:36:10 PM
So he campaigned for DA with the purpose of seeking to prosecute an American citizen.  Fascist mofos.

FLASHBACK: Corrupt Soros-Backed Manhattan DA Says #1 Issue Is to Convict Trump
https://rumble.com/v2g6x7u-flashback-corrupt-soros-backed-manhattan-da-says-1-issue-is-to-convict-trum.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 06, 2023, 12:39:24 PM
BREAKING: Manhattan DA deletes 'Meet Our Team' page after staffers nuke their far-left Twitter accounts
DA Alvin Bragg's office has deleted the "Meet Our Team" page, including the profile of chief assistant district attorney Meg Reiss, ahead of the arraignment.
Roberto Wakerell-Cruz
Montreal QC
Apr 4, 2023
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-manhattan-da-deletes-meet-our-team-page-after-staffers-nukes-their-far-left-twitter-accounts?utm_campaign=64487
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2023, 03:54:34 PM
You've been crying over Trumpy for just as long.  I bet you were relieved when they decided not to do a strip search.  That way you didn't have to pull your head out of his ass for a single moment.
Again, post the proof. I can post thousands of your posts showing your obsession with Trump.
TDS in full effect, right Tom?
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2023, 04:18:47 PM
Again, post the proof. I can post thousands of your posts showing your obsession with Trump.
TDS in full effect, right Tom?

The proof is in every single instance a fact about Trumpy is posted you coming running with your deflection, distraction, off topic replies, whataboutisms, and TDfS. 

Hell, look no further than this thread right here.  You can't even make a post on what the topic is about.  Instead it is just whining and projecting. 

TDfS in full effect, right Fetter?
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: chaos on April 06, 2023, 04:45:58 PM
The proof is in every single instance a fact about Trumpy is posted you coming running with your deflection, distraction, off topic replies, whataboutisms, and TDfS. 

Hell, look no further than this thread right here.  You can't even make a post on what the topic is about.  Instead it is just whining and projecting. 

TDfS in full effect, right Fetter?
It's not my fault you're too stupid to realize I'm making fun of you.
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 06, 2023, 05:57:55 PM
It's not my fault you're too stupid to realize I'm making fun of you.

No, it's just your fault you are too stupid to make a relative post about the actual thread topic.  But TDfS to the max to cope!!
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 07, 2023, 06:38:53 AM
It's not my fault you're too stupid to realize I'm making fun of you.


Lack of awareness is a hallmark of StrawMan those who have been radicalized by leftist programming.
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2023, 07:22:19 AM
Lack of awareness is a requirement of idiots Trumpy supporters who have nothing else to refute or defend his actions with.
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 07, 2023, 08:06:07 AM
Lack of awareness is a requirement of idiots Trumpy supporters who have nothing else to refute or defend his actions with.



No denial of being radicalized then? Cool.

I seem to have missed the posts where you defend Biden's corruption and perversion while the whole country is going down the toilet.

Biden is POTUS, not Trump...your posts are proof that this is all to distract from the absolute calamity in office.
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2023, 08:10:19 AM
No denial of being an idiot?  "Cool."

I seemed to have missed the posts where you defended Trumpy's corruption and perversion... oh wait.  No one missed them.  You certainly didn't hesitate in doing so. 

The indictment is Trumpy's.  Not Biden's.  Your posts are proof that this is all to distract from the absolute hilarity of your orange turd hero being held accountable. 
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Post by: SOMEPARTS on April 07, 2023, 08:17:32 AM
No denial of being an idiot?  "Cool."

I seemed to have missed the posts where you defended Trumpy's corruption and perversion... oh wait.  No one missed them.  You certainly didn't hesitate in doing so. 

The indictment is Trumpy's.  Not Biden's.  Your posts are proof that this is all to distract from the absolute hilarity of your orange turd hero being held accountable.



Haha, so angry. I'm not MSNBC, you don't have to repeat my words.  8)
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Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 07, 2023, 12:31:05 PM


Haha, so angry. I'm not MSNBC, you don't have to repeat my words.  8)

Of course I don't.  That I do is only for the hypocrisy in them. 

You aren't good enough to make anyone angry.  You are just comedy material at this point.
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 07, 2023, 12:49:55 PM
They cannot find a judge who didn't donate to a presidential candidate and whose daughter worked for Kamala Harris??  Reminds me of all the Hillary Clinton donating prosecutors on the Mueller team. 

NY judge in Trump hush-money case gave $15 to Biden in 2020, FEC records indicate
Former President Trump has accused Judge Juan Merchan of being a 'Trump hater'
By Chris Pandolfo | Fox News
Published April 7, 2023

Judge Juan Merchan, the New York state judge presiding over former President Donald Trump's criminal case, made small political donations to progressive groups and Joe Biden's 2020 presidential campaign, federal campaign contribution records indicate.

Federal Election Commission reports show that Merchan, a judge employed by the New York State Office of Court Administration, made a $15 contribution to the Biden for President campaign committee on July 26, 2020, through ActBlue, a Democratic Party fundraising platform.

The records show the judge also made a $10 contribution earmarked for the Progressive Turnout Project, a voter contact organization, and another $10 contribution to its subsidiary political action committee called Stop Republicans that year. 

. . . .

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ny-judge-trump-hush-money-case-gave-15-biden-2020-fec-records-indicate
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 07, 2023, 02:16:55 PM
The star witnesses in this Trump persecution (not a typo) are a disbarred lawyer who is a documented liar and this brainiac porn star who extorted money from a married man.  It's like this entire story is something put together by the Babylon Bee.   

Stormy Daniels: I'll Go To Jail Before I Pay Any Money To Trump
https://rumble.com/v2gsvfg-stormy-daniels-ill-go-to-jail-before-i-pay-any-money-to-trump.html?mref=ah9c7&mc=cfco
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Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2023, 12:36:27 PM

FEC: Trump-Stormy case ‘not a campaign finance violation’
by Paul Bedard, Washington Secrets Columnist |
April 05, 2023

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A key member of the Federal Election Commission today rejected the Manhattan district attorney’s indictment of former President Donald Trump as a violation of federal election laws.

“It's not a campaign finance violation. It's not a reporting violation of any kind,” said FEC Commissioner James E. “Trey” Trainor.

In trying to stretch the law to make it look like a violation, he added, District Attorney Alvin Bragg “is really trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole.”

In a 34-count indictment of Trump, the first criminal case ever against a former president, Bragg charged that a $130,000 payment made by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen to porn star Stormy Daniels, which Cohen went to jail for in a plea deal, violated several campaign finance laws that splashed onto Trump.

But, said Trainor, the FEC and Justice Department already considered the case and tossed it.

With that as background, Trainor told Secrets today that it will be hard for a judge or jury to come up with a different conclusion since it’s the FEC and DOJ that prosecute federal campaign finance law. He reiterated that in a Tuesday tweet that showed the FEC hearing room, and he wrote, “This is where campaign finance violations are tried.”

Trainor, a Texas-based election lawyer appointed by Trump, listed several reasons why the FEC decided not to take up the payment to Daniels in 2018. He also released a statement, shown below, that he and Commissioner Sean Cooksey wrote in April 2021 explaining why the FEC voted to dismiss the case.

First, he said, Cohen took the blame in his plea deal. “At the end of the day, there's the person who committed the crime, and there's the person who is behind bars because of it,” Trainor said of Cohen.

Second, the paperwork violation in question came well after Trump’s 2016 election, so it couldn’t have been done to help his election.

Third, it is not obvious that the reason for the payment and the reimbursement to Cohen was to influence the election, thus failing the “objective standard” of law. “It has to be something that anybody on the street can look at and say the only reason you did that was to influence the campaign,” said Trainor. “There's a lot of reasons that he could have done it that aren't related to him being a candidate for president, and so therefore, it wouldn't have met the standard as campaign expenditure under federal law,” he added.

Also, the statute of limitations on the case was running out, and it wasn’t worth the time and expense to prosecute, he said.

“I don't know how you get around the evidence that both the Department of Justice in their investigation of the federal campaign finance issues and the Federal Election Commission in their ultimate jurisdiction over campaign finance issues, neither of them found there to be any violations whatsoever, and I think the jury is going to see that and they're going to have to rely upon the fact that both the law enforcement experts and the civil enforcement experts, as far as campaign finance are concerned, didn't find any violation of the law here,” said Trainor.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/fec-trump-stormy-case-not-a-campaign-finance-violation
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Post by: Primemuscle on April 10, 2023, 01:10:39 PM
Paul Bedard is entitled to an opinion on this matter. However, Mr. Bedard is not a legal expert or necessarily understands the law.  He has an opinion, nothing more. Much like you, me and others do. Opinions about the strength of Trump’s indictment are extremely varied.

Bedard is a longtime D.C. reporter who joined the Washington Examiner in 2012 after penning U.S. News & World Report's premiere political column, "Washington Whispers."  As part of his "body of work," he has written dozens of pieces advancing the agenda of the National Rifle Association.

The Washington Examiner is a conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. Founded in 2015 as a newspaper. It is owned by Clarity Media Group. Mr. Bedard opinions are aligned with his employer.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Dos Equis on April 10, 2023, 01:56:39 PM
Paul Bedard is entitled to an opinion on this matter. However, Mr. Bedard is not a legal expert or necessarily understands the law.  He has an opinion, nothing more. Much like you, me and others do. Opinions about the strength of Trump’s indictment are extremely varied.

Bedard is a longtime D.C. reporter who joined the Washington Examiner in 2012 after penning U.S. News & World Report's premiere political column, "Washington Whispers."  As part of his "body of work," he has written dozens of pieces advancing the agenda of the National Rifle Association.

The Washington Examiner is a conservative news website and weekly magazine based in Washington, D.C. Founded in 2015 as a newspaper. It is owned by Clarity Media Group. Mr. Bedard opinions are aligned with his employer.

This is an article that quotes and relies on FEC Commissioner James E. “Trey” Trainor.  But you would know that if you climbed out of your bubble and actually read the article.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2023, 11:22:14 PM
Bragg’s case is a legal mess — what is he even charging Trump with?
By Jonathan Turley
April 4, 2023
https://nypost.com/2023/04/04/braggs-case-is-a-legal-mess-what-is-he-even-charging-trump-with/
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2023, 10:38:00 AM
We all knew he was lying right from the start.  But anyway...

This is as believable as Eric Trump's story of random people coming up to him hugging him in the streets and on planes because of his father's election loss and indictment.   ::)

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Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a law enforcement source familiar with the details of what transpired that day told Yahoo News.

“Zero,” said the source when asked how much truth there was to Trump’s colorful account. “There were zero people crying. There were zero people saying ‘I’m sorry.’”

Trump offered his version of events in an interview with the Fox News host Tucker Carlson that aired Tuesday night.

“When I went to the courthouse, which is also a prison in a sense, they signed me in, and I’ll tell you, people were crying,” Trump told Carlson. “People that work there, professionally work there, that have no problems putting in murderers, and they see everybody. It’s a tough, tough place, and they were crying. They were actually crying. They said, ‘I’m sorry.’ They said, '2024, sir. 2024.’ And tears were pouring down their eyes.”

In fact, the source said, aside from his lawyers and Secret Service agents, Trump interacted only with a handful of district attorney employees at the courthouse and had extremely limited exposure with others during his arraignment last Tuesday in lower Manhattan.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Trump%27s+tale+of+crying+Manhattan+court+employees+was+%27absolute+BS%2C%27+law+enforcement+source+says
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Post by: AbrahamG on April 12, 2023, 04:02:02 PM
We all knew he was lying right from the start.  But anyway...

This is as believable as Eric Trump's story of random people coming up to him hugging him in the streets and on planes because of his father's election loss and indictment.   ::)

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Former President Trump’s claim to a Fox News anchor that New York court employees were “crying” and apologizing for his arraignment on felony charges is “absolute BS” and doesn’t remotely resemble what took place, a law enforcement source familiar with the details of what transpired that day told Yahoo News.

“Zero,” said the source when asked how much truth there was to Trump’s colorful account. “There were zero people crying. There were zero people saying ‘I’m sorry.’”

Trump offered his version of events in an interview with the Fox News host Tucker Carlson that aired Tuesday night.

“When I went to the courthouse, which is also a prison in a sense, they signed me in, and I’ll tell you, people were crying,” Trump told Carlson. “People that work there, professionally work there, that have no problems putting in murderers, and they see everybody. It’s a tough, tough place, and they were crying. They were actually crying. They said, ‘I’m sorry.’ They said, '2024, sir. 2024.’ And tears were pouring down their eyes.”

In fact, the source said, aside from his lawyers and Secret Service agents, Trump interacted only with a handful of district attorney employees at the courthouse and had extremely limited exposure with others during his arraignment last Tuesday in lower Manhattan.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Trump%27s+tale+of+crying+Manhattan+court+employees+was+%27absolute+BS%2C%27+law+enforcement+source+says
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Sad.  Very sad.
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 12, 2023, 05:11:26 PM
Sad.  Very sad.

Especially when you know people actually believed this crap.

Nobody even bothered to open the door for the idiot, but yet were standing around inside crying for him.   ::)
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2023, 07:05:38 PM
Title: Re: Trumps indictment -
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2023, 07:49:00 PM
Manhattan D.A. Enlisted A Who’s Who Of Biden Admin Buddies For Trump Takedown
BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND
APRIL 12, 2023
https://thefederalist.com/2023/04/12/manhattan-d-a-enlisted-a-whos-who-of-biden-admin-buddies-for-trump-takedown/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=manhattan-d-a-enlisted-a-whos-who-of-biden-admin-buddies-for-trump-takedown