Members: Define Your Political Inclination!

[240 is Back]

CT;s aside, 240 is more of a real conservative than Bush ever was.

1) Thank you.  I've voted republican since 94 in every election, which is more than I can say for some of our more vocal neocons here.  These folks don't see the party has split - the neocons intent on global energy domination thru war on false pretenses - and the moderates, intent on slowing this explosive spending, elective warring, and civil rights losses domestically.

2) As far as the CTs, they actually still fall under the auspices of the repub party - a strong justice system.  There were people at FAA who destroyed evidence - they were not investigated for these deeds.  In a TRULY republican system, the FAA supervisor who destroyed recordings would have been charged with crimes.  In this neocon rendition, he was promoted along with everyone else who didn't do their job on 9/11.  Time will vindicate my beliefs on 9/11 having assistance here in air defense and explosives in buildings, I know this.

[G o a t b o y]

the moderates, intent on slowing this explosive spending, elective warring, and civil rights losses domestically.

Republican moderates don't seem to have much of a public voice.  It seems the only ones doing any talking (or at least the only ones getting any attention) are the Republican neocons and the Democratic ultra-liberals.

[tu_holmes]

Republican moderates don't seem to have much of a public voice.  It seems the only ones doing any talking (or at least the only ones getting any attention) are the Republican neocons and the Democratic ultra-liberals.

I agree... and everyone else is swept under the rug... What a sad state of affairs.

[Dos Equis]

Republican moderates don't seem to have much of a public voice.  It seems the only ones doing any talking (or at least the only ones getting any attention) are the Republican neocons and the Democratic ultra-liberals.

Rudi is a moderate and will be one of the frontrunners for the Republican nomination. 

[tu_holmes]

Rudi is a moderate and will be one of the frontrunners for the Republican nomination. 

My only thing is that he had a situation which made people perceive him as great (9/11) and so he became ultimately popular...

Was he that great of a Mayor? Did 9/11 make appear great? 9/11 Made "W" appear great, but we see how that turned out...

Gulianni did clean up NY quite a bit though... I'm just iffy on him... He might be great though.

[240 is Back]

Republican moderates don't seem to have much of a public voice.  It seems the only ones doing any talking (or at least the only ones getting any attention) are the Republican neocons and the Democratic ultra-liberals.

Because retarded moron asshats will label them liberals.

[240 is Back]

Rudi is a moderate and will be one of the frontrunners for the Republican nomination. 

Rudi [sic] backs Bush 100% on the war.  This puts him in the neocon camp.  With iraq being the #1,2,3 issue with voters, neocon vs. moderate classification for all electibility purposes lies in your opinion on the war(s).

Nobody (save for you and the other 12 pseudo-repubs in this country hiding under that rock) gives a shit about abortion or gay rights, if you haven't noticed.

[Dos Equis]

My only thing is that he had a situation which made people perceive him as great (9/11) and so he became ultimately popular...

Was he that great of a Mayor? Did 9/11 make appear great? 9/11 Made "W" appear great, but we see how that turned out...

Gulianni did clean up NY quite a bit though... I'm just iffy on him... He might be great though.

He apparently did a great job as mayor.  Cleaned up the streets.  Did a great job during 911.

I think his biggest problem will be making it out of the Republican primary, because he's too much of a moderate for much of the base. 

[Camel Jockey]

Gulianni did clean up NY quite a bit though... I'm just iffy on him... He might be great though.

His only fault is that he backs the Iraq war.

[240 is Back]

His only fault is that he backs the Iraq war.

not just the war - he backs Bush.

Many dems back the war but don't support Bush's surge, etc.  Rudy is 100% pro-Bush, as is romney and McCain.  All 3 are vying for the party base $.

[24KT]

A great many people feel like you do. Unfortunately, neither party accurately represents this point of view.  It seems like no matter which way you vote, you have to give up about half of what you believe in.  The unthingking drones who swallow the entire platform of either party (both of which are logically inconsistent with themselves) then vocally defend their "party line" make the situation that much worse.

I think the large number of fiscally conservative socially liberal folks who want a small government that stays out of our personal lives, and stresses personal freedom along with personal responsibility should leave the Republican party to the religious freaks and the Democratic Party to the socialist whiners and trial lawyers, and form our own centrist party.

{LOL} Oh Goatboy, ...you make me laugh sometimes.  (I mean that in a good way)

PS - That's EXACTLY what we've done in Canada, ...and that centrist party is... THE LIBERAL PARTY OF CANADA 

[24KT]

His only fault is that he backs the Iraq war.

I'm sure there'll be some holier-than-thou moralists who will object to the fact that he was married to his 1st cousin for 15 yrs.

[Dos Equis]

Rudi [sic] backs Bush 100% on the war. 

lol.  You use "[sic]" when you're quoting something that has an error you want the reader to know is not attributable you.  So, you should have quoted me and placed "[sic]" right after the quoted word "Rudi." 

[Dos Equis]

I'm sure there'll be some holier-than-thou moralists who will object to the fact that he was married to his 1st cousin for 15 yrs.

It was his second cousin.     Let me guess, another "typo"? 

[24KT]

It was his second cousin.     Let me guess, another "typo"? 

Dammit!   Why do they insist upon putting those two keys so close together?! 

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[tu_holmes]

I'm sure there'll be some holier-than-thou moralists who will object to the fact that he was married to his 1st cousin for 15 yrs.

Eh... what do I care... love is love.

At least she wasnt a toaster.