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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2024, 04:21:22 AM »
The only real way is microdosing test but if they want to they can still see if the test is natural vs synthetic. T

Not sure that is correct. I believe you can get bioidentical test, GH and insulin. And so the issue then is simply the levels being outside norms. And so you can take bioidentical supplements, just in a daily or numerous times daily amounts, but always below the upper max threshold permitted and then even if they come right after a microdose taken, if done right you are still under. This is how the Chinese are doing it.

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2024, 05:22:48 AM »
It was in 1990 or so. I think Ben Johnson had something to do with it actually. As I recall doctors, practitioners, were actually against the reclassification. It had nothing to do with health per se, I don't think, it WAS sports orgs who pushed for it.

Even today that fucking WADA is pushing for even stricter laws, as if that would stop cheating. WADA should mind their own business, not interfere with society at large. China is their biggest headache, though oldtimer1 will say all their drugs are fake anyway.
I think Biden had a bigger role in banning andro and the designer stuff in the early 2000’s because of the steroids in baseball thing..I remember the news clips of him saying he was “angry” because guys used steroids and he could’ve went pro if it weren’t for that.

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2024, 06:33:13 AM »
Not sure that is correct. I believe you can get bioidentical test, GH and insulin. And so the issue then is simply the levels being outside norms. And so you can take bioidentical supplements, just in a daily or numerous times daily amounts, but always below the upper max threshold permitted and then even if they come right after a microdose taken, if done right you are still under. This is how the Chinese are doing it.
I thought isotope testing nailed micro dosing.

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2024, 07:06:48 AM »

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #104 on: April 26, 2024, 07:54:43 AM »
Yes, but I think not if the substance is bio-identical.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/resources/scientific-research/novel-approach-detect-and-identify-low-abundant-long-term-metabolites

I didn't read or research but "regular" synthetic testosterone you get at the pharmacy is called "bioidentical." And that is detected by isotope testing. I don't know if you can synthetically make test with the correct isotope, or if you'd have to extract it from human urine or whatever, but I have never seen mention of truly bioidentical test being made or sold anywhere. Patrick Arnold didn't have it. But if I were to guess it's probably possible to manufacture or extract somehow... someone should look it up, I'm too lazy right now. But even then doping would be plenty hard I think as they would see levels are abnormally high and lutenizing hormone is suppressed and so on. That's why they have the "biological passports," where they monitor fluctuations and not just outright abnormal numbers. Like high test after races when they should normally drop, or coming in to comps always with topped out red blood cells. There are for sure real doping evading experts out there but they are not writing on the net, for the most part.

Like I said earlier, I think a lot of doping today is done with substances not currently banned. Like that Alex Kikel fella says Melanotan II is not banned but improves hematology. I don't know if true but that's what he claims. WADA is monitoring a bunch of drugs not on the lists, when they see everyone have a certain legal drug in their system they take notice.

GH seems easy to detects. Normally your body secretes several forms of GH, not just the 20 or 22kda isoform or whatever you can supplement exogenously. Maybe cadaver derived would get around this, I don't know. Alex Kikel says China does manufacture these other forms though, some of which are not on the banned lists.

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #105 on: Today at 03:14:01 PM »
It’s the best preworkout

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It seems to me that daily cialis is probably the best natty supplement. Closest thing to steroids and way more effective than creatine etc.

Going to give it a try.

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #106 on: Today at 03:39:13 PM »
It seems to me that daily cialis is probably the best natty supplement. Closest thing to steroids and way more effective than creatine etc.

Going to give it a try.

Though there's little natty about it. A few years back WADA did some snooping and most all had Viagra in their systems. But they can't ban it for political reasons, "hey you have to have sloppy dicks to compete." Wouldn't go over well. Viagra has been shown to increase protein synthesis too, you can bet everyone is on these drugs in athletics.
Personally I don't get the pumps really even taking 40 or 60mg (max dose is 20mg).

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #107 on: Today at 04:22:47 PM »
Though there's little natty about it. A few years back WADA did some snooping and most all had Viagra in their systems. But they can't ban it for political reasons, "hey you have to have sloppy dicks to compete." Wouldn't go over well. Viagra has been shown to increase protein synthesis too, you can bet everyone is on these drugs in athletics.
Personally I don't get the pumps really even taking 40 or 60mg (max dose is 20mg).

I'll update after a month of 5 mg 2 days on 1 day off. I am feeling the pumps on the first day though tbh.

I've held onto a fair bit of muscle clean and have too much going on in life to take steroids anymore (might jump onto some trt when I get into the 40s, but right now I feel great so no point). But I take the odd 100 mg viagra for special occasions so a little dose of cialis is light work for some (hopefully) performance enhancement.

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #108 on: Today at 05:30:25 PM »
My pumps are fucking insane on 5mg of cialis eod. Definitely growing as well. I feel I’ve gotten more from the cialis than the trt.

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Re: Low dose anadrol 25mg (and longer use)
« Reply #109 on: Today at 06:21:22 PM »
Can you buy Cialis is without a script?