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Bodybuilding Legend Robby Robinson Wants Government to Stop Steroids in Bodybuilding
Bodybuilding legend Robby Robinson wants federal government intervention into the sport of professional bodybuilding to combat the (mis)use of anabolic steroids in the sport.
“There’s a lot of drugs in the sport,” he said. “To be 300 pounds and come down to 260 or 250. I think the government ought to do something.” Robinson made his point clear, but also was up front about his own use. “I never took drugs when I came here (to California from Florida) in 1975. The first time I got involved was two weeks before Mr. World. I took the shot – which was primo depot – and remembered going home and sitting down and the whole room started spinning.”
Robinson admitted using small quantities of anabolic steroids (identifying Primobolan Depot by name) during the weeks prior to a bodybuilding competitions. After Robinson started using steroids, he went on to win the IFBB Mr. America, Mr. World, and Mr. Universe championships; he won several IFBB Masters Olympia titles between 1994 and 2001.
During his competing days, Robinson would not use steroids during the offseason, but said that when he was eight weeks out, he would take something every two weeks.
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two weeks and a shot of primo :-\
"MUST BEEN ONE HELLUVA DRUG"
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after reading this... you just wanna smack this guys fukkin teeth in. fukkin liar.
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“There’s a lot of drugs in the sport,” he said. “To be 300 pounds and come down to 260 or 250. I think the government ought to do something.” Robinson made his point clear, but also was up front about his own use. “I never took drugs when I came here (to California from Florida) in 1975. The first time I got involved was two weeks before Mr. World. I took the shot – which was primo depot – and remembered going home and sitting down and the whole room started spinning.”
Robby is a fucking flat out liar.
Robby is in the movie "Pumping Iron", and in the scene when they are all playing football in the park, which is 1975, Robby is big as fuck-and if Robby said he never took anything until 1975 then that would make him drug free in this park scene, or close to it-and there is NO WAY he is drug free there. NO FUCKING WAY.
Another bullshitter.
two weeks and a shot of primo :-\
"MUST BEEN ONE HELLUVA DRUG"
Bullshit!
after reading this... you just wanna smack this guys fukkin teeth in. fukkin liar.
Ill second this motion bigtime, lets find Robby and beat the shit out of him for being such a bullshitter-he cant fool Getbig.
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Wow, another lying bodybuilder. Anyone surprised? I like the part where he says he took his first shot, went home and whole room started spinning. God what a fucking liar.
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Bodybuilding Legend Robby Robinson Wants Government to Stop Steroids in Bodybuilding
Bodybuilding legend Robby Robinson wants federal government intervention into the sport of professional bodybuilding to combat the (mis)use of anabolic steroids in the sport.
“There’s a lot of drugs in the sport,” he said. “To be 300 pounds and come down to 260 or 250. I think the government ought to do something.” Robinson made his point clear, but also was up front about his own use. “I never took drugs when I came here (to California from Florida) in 1975. The first time I got involved was two weeks before Mr. World. I took the shot – which was primo depot – and remembered going home and sitting down and the whole room started spinning.”
Robinson admitted using small quantities of anabolic steroids (identifying Primobolan Depot by name) during the weeks prior to a bodybuilding competitions. After Robinson started using steroids, he went on to win the IFBB Mr. America, Mr. World, and Mr. Universe championships; he won several IFBB Masters Olympia titles between 1994 and 2001.
During his competing days, Robinson would not use steroids during the offseason, but said that when he was eight weeks out, he would take something every two weeks.
lololol...the whole room was spinning...This must have been when Shering was mixing their primobolan with Ketamine ::)
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Bodybuilders do not lie ::) ::)
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hahhaa
he wants them to do something about a 'steroid problem'
yet he is telling them that he only used steroids pre contest and only once every two weeks
so wheres the problem, robby ?
LOL
( oh, he looks fantastic in that front doubli bi ! )
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Bodybuilders do not lie ::) ::)
C'mon Keith,
They are all lies!
Hey, why did my spelling correct itself
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My favorite line of stupidity is "I think the government ought to do something."
1. The government needn't give a fat rat's asshole about the underground cult that is pro bodybuilding.
2. The government is too involved in every damn thing as it is, get rid of this "shiiiit man, da guv'ment need ta do somethin," outlook.
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1 shot of primo.....ya right....joke.
The room spinning from 1 shot of primo??? Bigger joke.
70's bbdr's claiming they "barely used" is the biggest joke of them all.
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According to chick, Robbie spent anywhere from 0$-1 million on drugs for his contest prep ;)
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that picture is really of Joe Weider
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Man we made a lot of money selling Primo Depot. You could buy it in Tijuana back then for sixty cents a vial
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Is this authentic? Because if it is, where to even start?
The room started spinning? Why? What anabolic steroid makes your head frickin' spin?
Now he wants to help in some way to eradicate the misuse of steroids? Sure, after he has reaped the benefits of their use, and no longer requires them.
Plus, his recollections of his own use is complete horsecrap. What a liar and tool.
This shit's maddening.
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I'd love it if the IFBB was all natural how fun would that be.
Triple H: "Next up weighing in at 192 pounds, two time Olympia Champ Jay Cutler"
Bob Chick: " Wow! Jay sure is the mass monster tonight, he's about 30 pounds heavier than Dexter who came in at 162"
Gunter: " Yes the Razor was light at 162 but ripped "
Dan: " Well I heard rumours that Jay doubled his Gakic cycle thus adding the extra weight, I heard the IFBB is investigating this situation"
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I'd love it if the IFBB was all natural how fun would that be.
Triple H: "Next up weighing in at 192 pounds, two time Olympia Champ Jay Cutler"
Bob Chick: " Wow! Jay sure is the mass monster tonight, he's about 30 pounds heavier than Dexter who came in at 162"
Gunter: " Yes the Razor was light at 162 but ripped "
Dan: " Well I heard rumours that Jay doubled his Gakic cycle thus adding the extra weight, I heard the IFBB is investigating this situation"
:D
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A guy i know form the gym and believe and trust told me that he done 2 nabba shows.
He only ever took 2 8 week cycles before contests. One shot of whatever drug it was a week.
Said after 10 days his previous 10RM on shoulder press had jumped to 20!!!!
Said he never regrets doing them as he was young and had no committments. Would not do it now...kids etc.
This was in 1991 and 1993
Drugs give a hellova lot!
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A guy i know form the gym and believe and trust told me that he done 2 nabba shows.
He only ever took 2 8 week cycles before contests. One shot of whatever drug it was a week.
Said after 10 days his previous 10RM on shoulder press had jumped to 20!!!!
Said he never regrets doing them as he was young and had no committments. Would not do it now...kids etc.
This was in 1991 and 1993
Drugs give a hellova lot!
Understatement of the thread. But then again, if you ask Chick, they really just add the finishing touches. LMAO. What a nitwit.
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good to see another pro "honest" about his drug use
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Its funny how a former athlete drains the sport for personal then crys later how they were pressured into steroid use while there living in there million dollar homes.
(I admire) a cop that takes steroids. Sure they can take on any meth head who roll's there way, but there not going to brag how they did it.
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Read more on that article. Robby talks about the steriods causing his B-12 deficiency... ::)
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/blog/2008/07/14/robby-robinson-against-steroids-in-bodybuilding/
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Didn't Robbie call Moosejay wanting to buy insulin not too long ago?
Robbie should be thanking steroids - without them he would have been nothing. And he's still on. What's that, at least 35 years of steroids?
What a moron.
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yes....it can make the room spin
elevated BP levels can do amazing things to the body
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yes....it can make the room spin
elevated BP levels can do amazing things to the body
Or it could be that he was scared of needles. Some people faint at the sight of a needle.
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96% Natural - Hard Work
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Understatement of the thread. But then again, if you ask Chick, they really just add the finishing touches. LMAO. What a nitwit.
;D
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I think finishing touch for gear, is like digging a hole with an excavator instead of a spade. Ohh, someone still has to drive the machine, it can't drive itself. So it's only a finishing touch! :D That seems to be the logic. Of course u have to get off your butt and train with epic savage workout's, but let's not be lame!
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lololol...the whole room was spinning...This must have been when Shering was mixing their primobolan with Ketamine ::)
HAHAHAHAHA OMFGGH!!! I just spit out my koolaid!!!! ROFL
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BS.
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why is anyone taking note of this swimmer's opinions.
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His competition weight was 200 lbs at 5'7", so basically none of you people think a black guy with great genetics could not be 200 lbs ripped just using gear 8 weeks out ::)
minus 8 weeks of gear hes probably 185 which I would guess is not achievable naturally by getbig accounts ::)
In the 8 weeks his muscles probably inflated 10-15 lbs and made him hard and vascular which is not very hard to believe!
plus if he does 3-4 shows a yr that means he's on for 6 months out of the yr, get a clue people;)
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Steroid users, more secretive than a pedophile. Only on a message board, do these guy boast about their drug use...pathetic.
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His competition weight was 200 lbs at 5'7", so basically none of you people think a black guy with great genetics could not be 200 lbs ripped just using gear 8 weeks out ::)
minus 8 weeks of gear hes probably 185 which I would guess is not achievable naturally by getbig accounts ::)
In the 8 weeks his muscles probably inflated 10-15 lbs and made him hard and vascular which is not very hard to believe!
plus if he does 3-4 shows a yr that means he's on for 6 months out of the yr, get a clue people;)
He was more than 200lbs more like 220lbs
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His competition weight was 200 lbs at 5'7", so basically none of you people think a black guy with great genetics could not be 200 lbs ripped just using gear 8 weeks out ::)
minus 8 weeks of gear hes probably 185 which I would guess is not achievable naturally by getbig accounts ::)
In the 8 weeks his muscles probably inflated 10-15 lbs and made him hard and vascular which is not very hard to believe!
plus if he does 3-4 shows a yr that means he's on for 6 months out of the yr, get a clue people;)
(http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/MHOF/RobbieRobinson/robinson9.jpg)
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I remember on his board a few years back he posted the cycle that chad wanted him to take for the masters o I think. He complained " he expects an old man like me to take all this?" I would have loved to see that post.
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He was more than 200lbs more like 220lbs
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/robbyrobinson.html
maybe at the end of his career he was 220.
on low doses of gear 6 months out of the yr for 10 yrs should put on 20 lbs.
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Anyone remember the FLEX article on him that described his experiences in the Vietnam war?
Where he was stabbed in the side while pretending to be dead? VC invaded the camp and they were walking to all the dead and stabbing them to make sure they were dead :o
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(http://www.bodybuildingreviews.net/MHOF/RobbieRobinson/robinson9.jpg)
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boy that is really hard to believe a blackman can look like that on low doses ::)
pic was probably after 5 yrs of low dose useage 4-6 months out of the yr.
at 200 lbs I have no problem believing him!
the guy does not look much bigger then matt there who claims 175 lbs at 5'6"
the guy admitted to low doses 8 weeks out. he competed 2-4x a yr for 15 yrs consistently ,so he was on 4 to 6 months per yr!
4-6 months for 15 yrs is gonn pack on alot of muscle ;)
There is alot of 8 weeks out!
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1974 AAU Mr. Southeastern USA 1st
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1974 AAU Mr. Southern States 1st
1974 AAU Mr. USA Medium, 2nd
1974 AAU Mr. USA Most Muscular, 4th
1975 AAU Mr. America 5th
1975 AAU Mr. America Medium, 2nd
1975 AAU Mr. America Most Muscular, 1st
1975 IFBB Mr. America Medium & Overall, 1st
1975 AAU Mr. Florida 1st
1975 IFBB Mr. World Medium & Overall, 1st
1975 IFBB Mr. World Most Muscular, 1st
1975 IFBB Universe Medium, 1st
1975 IFBB Mr. International Medium & Overall, 1st
1976 IFBB Universe Middleweight & Overall, 1st
1977 Mr. Olympia 2nd
1977 Mr. Olympia Tall, 1st
1978 IFBB Night of Champions 1st
1978 Mr. Olympia 2nd
1978 Mr. Olympia Heavyweight, 1st
1978 IFBB Professional World Cup 1st
1979 IFBB Best in the World Professional, 1st
1979 IFBB Canada Pro Cup 4th
1979 IFBB Grand Prix New York 1st
1979 IFBB Night of Champions 1st
1979 Mr. Olympia Lightweight, 3rd
1979 IFBB Pittsburgh Pro Invitational 1st
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1980 IFBB Grand Prix California 2nd
1980 IFBB Grand Prix Pennsylvania 4th
1980 IFBB Night of Champions 2nd
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1981 WABBA Pro World Cup 3rd
1981 NABBA Universe - Pro 1st
1981 WABBA World Championships Professional, 2nd
1982 IFBB Night of Champions Did Not Place
1983 IFBB World Pro Championships 4th
1984 Mr. Olympia 17th
1984 IFBB World Grand Prix 13th
1985 IFBB Night of Champions 8th
1986 IFBB Los Angeles Pro Championships Did Not Place
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1987 IFBB Grand Prix France 2nd
1987 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 2nd
1987 IFBB Grand Prix Germany (II) 5th
1987 IFBB Night of Champions 5th
1987 Mr. Olympia 5th
1988 IFBB Grand Prix England 8th
1988 IFBB Grand Prix Germany 10th
1988 IFBB Grand Prix Greece 7th
1988 IFBB Grand Prix Spain 9th
1988 IFBB Grand Prix US Pro 3rd
1988 IFBB Niagara Falls Pro Invitational 1st
1988 IFBB Night of Champions 2nd
1988 Mr. Olympia 17th
1988 IFBB World Pro Championships 3rd
1989 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 2nd
1989 IFBB Grand Prix Melbourne 2nd
1989 IFBB World Pro Championships 2nd
1990 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 4th
1990 IFBB Night of Champions 5th
1991 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic 8th
1991 IFBB Musclefest Grand Prix 1st
1991 Mr. Olympia 13th
1992 IFBB Ironman Pro Invitational 2nd
1992 IFBB Night of Champions 3rd
1993 IFBB Ironman Pro Invitational 8th
1994 IFBB Master's Mr. Olympia 1st
1995 Master's Mr. Olympia 2nd
1996 IFBB Master's Mr. Olympia 4th
1997 IFBB Master's Mr. Olympia Masters 50+, 1st
1998 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic
1998 IFBB Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic Masters, 3rd
1999 IFBB Master's Mr. Olympia 6th
2000 IFBB Master's Mr. Olympia 3rd
200 IFBB Master's Mr. Olympia Masters 50+, 1st
2001 IFBB Master's Mr. Olympia 4th
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I believe him
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boy that is really hard to believe a blackman can look like that on low doses ::)
pic was probably after 5 yrs of low dose useage 4-6 months out of the yr.
at 200 lbs I have no problem believing him!
the guy does not look much bigger then matt there who claims 175 lbs at 5'6"
the guy admitted to low doses 8 weeks out. he competed 2-4x a yr for 15 yrs consistently ,so he was on 4 to 6 months per yr!
4-6 months for 15 yrs is gonn pack on alot of muscle ;)
any credibility you may have had was lost completely with this statement.
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Think I'll get some of that Primobolan. ::)
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Or it could be that he was scared of needles. Some people faint at the sight of a needle.
He might have stuck the needle in his ear, or forehead, thus causing a severe headache and causing the room to spin.
Lets face it-Robby is a great BBer-but he is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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His competition weight was 200 lbs at 5'7", so basically none of you people think a black guy with great genetics could not be 200 lbs ripped just using gear 8 weeks out ::)
minus 8 weeks of gear hes probably 185 which I would guess is not achievable naturally by getbig accounts ::)
In the 8 weeks his muscles probably inflated 10-15 lbs and made him hard and vascular which is not very hard to believe!
plus if he does 3-4 shows a yr that means he's on for 6 months out of the yr, get a clue people;)
Err..no it was not.
RR competition BW was usually around 210#, ONE time he dropped down to do the under 200 Olympia (when they had 2 weight classes) and he said it was the biggest mistake of his life.
And if RR was NOT using drugs off season (all the pros went off in the 70's) he would certainly gain more than 10-15#'s when on, more like 20#-30#. Shit, I could gain 10# on 1 dbol a day.
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any credibility you may have had was lost completely with this statement.
I dislike the kid as much as anyone , but its true lol..!
his arms chest and shoulders look just as big or close to it..
are you gonna try and tell me rr looks much bigger then matt who says he is 170 or so in this flash?
http://www.matttsinkorang.com/
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What weight would Robby Robinson routinely compete as?
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What a joke....nothing like the old guard throwing stones when their time in the sun finally faded. The ONLY reason they didn't take whats available today, is that it simply wasn't around back then.
I love how all the old timers "only took a few D-bol" or "only went on for the last few weeks to cut up"........riiiiiiiiight.
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What a joke....nothing like the old guard throwing stones when their time in the sun finally faded. The ONLY reason they didn't take whats available today, is that it simply wasn't around back then.
I love how all the old timers "only took a few D-bol" or "only went on for the last few weeks to cut up"........riiiiiiiiight.
Reminds me of you Chick. :D
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Reminds me of you Chick. :D
I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
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What a joke....nothing like the old guard throwing stones when their time in the sun finally faded. The ONLY reason they didn't take whats available today, is that it simply wasn't around back then.
I love how all the old timers "only took a few D-bol" or "only went on for the last few weeks to cut up"........riiiiiiiiight.
good post, chick :)
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Robbys talking out of his arse as usual, he was never an over the top user, but he regularly used pre contest when he was training, Truth is robby didnt do any so called off season training and his pre contest could last as long as 20 weeks, basically he only trained when he was on, if he had no shows coming up he generally didn't train much at all. If you couldn't help the man out financially i mean by paying him to train you not gay4pay or gear wise Ronny wouldn't spit on you, he always had some guys with him at the gym that he was helping( ripping off ) they usually came from Scandinavia where his girl was from, what hes saying is true though steroid use needs to be controlled but that will never happen the ifbb needs to start capping bodyweights to heights to stop the abuse of these drugs but they aren't listening, a guy weighing 240 at 6 foot isn't massive by todays standards, but he doesn't look natural either, the guys would be much healthier if they all had to compete inside a bodyweight to height quota, we all know that,as sad as it is, the difference of guys weighing 280 and 240 is usually a few thousand mgs more, along with good genetics and everything else but the determining factor is you can increase the protein and train harder but until you through those mgs of AAS in and the ius of HGH and insulin the scales wont change much.
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I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
thanks for keeping it real Chick,
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Robbys talking out of his arse as usual, he was never an over the top user, but he regularly used pre contest when he was training, Truth is robby didnt do any so called off season training and his pre contest could last as long as 20 weeks, basically he only trained when he was on, if he had no shows coming up he generally didn't train much at all. If you couldn't help the man out financially i mean by paying him to train you not gay4pay or gear wise Ronny wouldn't spit on you, he always had some guys with him at the gym that he was helping( ripping off ) they usually came from Scandinavia where his girl was from, what hes saying is true though steroid use needs to be controlled but that will never happen the ifbb needs to start capping bodyweights to heights to stop the abuse of these drugs but they aren't listening, a guy weighing 240 at 6 foot isn't massive by todays standards, but he doesn't look natural either, the guys would be much healthier if they all had to compete inside a bodyweight to height quota, we all know that,as sad as it is, the difference of guys weighing 280 and 240 is usually a few thousand mgs more, along with good genetics and everything else but the determining factor is you can increase the protein and train harder but until you through those mgs of AAS in and the ius of HGH and insulin the scales wont change much.
I agree with much of your perception...but to think they would be healthier is simply not true...it actually might make it worse, as guys would be taking MORE shit to get their weight down to meet a guideline. Diueretics cause MAJOR problems, steroids dont.
Real simple...reward the LOOK that is better. If guys with GH guts, odd lumps and bumps are placing in the bottom 3rd, that alone will dictate what is used and not used for the most part...
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Robby is still pissed with old man Weider
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what about a diuretic test, areal one. i just think and its only an opinion, that the physiques of Guys Pre Yates looked a lot better, Berry De May Mike Christian, Haney surely those guys would be healthier than Cutler Ruhl etc, just a shame to see guys just getting bigger all the time but not necessarily better, certainly would have worked towards guys like yourself being more competitive at the very top level as symmetry would play a much bigger part with lower bodyweights, i just think that with the current conditions in the sport that guys with lesser genetics are getting further in the sport as they are prepared to push the envelope a bit harder than others who may be genetic superior, who opt for a healthier approach.
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I agree with much of your perception...but to think they would be healthier is simply not true...it actually might make it worse, as guys would be taking MORE shit to get their weight down to meet a guideline. Diueretics cause MAJOR problems, steroids dont.
Real simple...reward the LOOK that is better. If guys with GH guts, odd lumps and bumps are placing in the bottom 3rd, that alone will dictate what is used and not used for the most part...
reward this kind of look
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what about a diuretic test, areal one.
How did that work the last time? Jay threatened to sue over a failed test and the IFBB backed down, Chad sold undetectable diuretics to competitors, Milos hooked himself up to an IV, and etc.
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I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
props for admitting the gh use... most guys dont have the guts to admit that. seriously, good share.
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that picture is really of Joe Weider
LOL
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I'm sure Robby still believes pot is ok for him to smoke
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revealing before and after 8 weeks of primobolan pre contest prep pics
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I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
:o :o
props for admitting the gh use... most guys dont have the guts to admit that. seriously, good share.
Absolutely, I think the most memorable denial was an interview in Musclemag with AARON BAKER, where he claimed he never did GH because he couldn't afford it ::)
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Everything he said in that interview is pure BS. A shot of primo every two weeks? No way, no how is that even theoretically possible. I bet he was ON allmost all the time, like so many others in those days. Back in the day, everyone was bridging and thought they were OFF. That's retarded at best...
Also one thing that pisses me off is the fact that first the guy makes a living with the use of AAS and now that's it's all over he flames modern bodybuilders just so someone pays attention to him. There's too much negative drawn to bodybuilding as it is and someone like him should be concentrating to the positives of the sport after it gave him so much.
Just another old timer talking out of his ass...
"The government should do something." I think the US government has done more than enough, what ever happened to individuals own choices?
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funny!
an ex girlfreind of one top "genetically" gifted pro told me "he always would miss a meal or two a day and skip cardio and training a day or two every week but he'd never miss a scheduled shot"
Robby juiced and juiced a lot over 30 years wasn't HUGE cycles but dbol anavar wnstrol primo triacana deca test Eq drol all that stuff was used at one time or another...
one thing was right that the guys in the 70's and 80's for the most part juiced before shows and didn't bulk year round for the most part but when you cycle for 30 weeks for a show?? pretty much half a year or more...
i always chuckle when people say larry scott used to use 5-10 mgs of dbol a day and at the time there were chalk bins full of pills winstrol anavar and dbol and guys would walk by and take a few in between sets...also a myth people were "terrorized of steroids" back then...ya right...
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hahhaa
he wants them to do something about a 'steroid problem'
yet he is telling them that he only used steroids pre contest and only once every two weeks
so wheres the problem, robby ?
LOL
( oh, he looks fantastic in that front doubli bi ! )
haha i think he looks like shit (i cant see past his ego)
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he wants the government to do something about it?
typical democrat, always looking at the gov to do EVERYTHING. one must take their own responsibilities in hand instead.
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he wants the government to do something about it?
typical democrat, always looking at the gov to do EVERYTHING. one must take their own responsibilities in hand instead.
Yes!
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I need to learn the difference between a Democrat and a Repub i think... anyone wanna give me a non-biased lowdown or link to what the difference is lol
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Why would he say the government needs to do something? I think they have done plenty! >:(
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I need to learn the difference between a Democrat and a Repub i think... anyone wanna give me a non-biased lowdown or link to what the difference is lol
Republican=Self reliance
Democrat=Big Government does it for you
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Republican=Self reliance
Democrat=Big Government does it for you
Sorry, but Bush has borrowed $1 tril a year.
Most of that money didn't go to the wars. It went to federeal programs. Govt is way bigger today than it was under Clinton.
They're both big govt parties, currently.
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Republican=Self reliance
Democrat=Big Government does it for you
victims of katrina = democrats?
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victims of katrina = democrats?
There are no victims
There are only volunteers
;)
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I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
if you don't mind me asking, whats the largest dose you ever ran on a per milligram basis weekly?
there is alot of bullshit and lies associated with this question, so not many will step up and be honest.
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There are no victims
There are only volunteers
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that's the $100 answer
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I need to learn the difference between a Democrat and a Repub i think... anyone wanna give me a non-biased lowdown or link to what the difference is lol
Republican= BORROW and spend
Democrat= TAX and spend
That is about it-they are both whores for big business and anyone else who "contributes" to their campaigns.
Republican=Self reliance
Democrat=Big Government does it for you
See abov.
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I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
Wow, This is the first time I've actually admire your Honesty Chick. I knew you would come right one day....haha
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Republican= BORROW and spend
Democrat= TAX and spend
That is about it-they are both whores for big business and anyone else who "contributes" to their campaigns.
See abov.
Democrat/Liberal= Miserable, look for negative things, and one entity to blame for it
I'd be miserable too, If I awoke every day as a liberal
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that's the $100 answer
Indeed
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You gotta give props to Chick for telling it like it is
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props for admitting the gh use... most guys dont have the guts to admit that. seriously, good share.
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not? Takes guts... why??? Is GH still some mythical compound most don't want to be associated with?
Maybe Chick is being honest about not using it as an amateur but it sounds very very strange to me, not being able to "afford it". Consider the situation: Chick had been trying for a pro card for a long time. Surely he could have found the cash for a few kits to get even a small edge to make the dream come true finally. Surely that goal would have been worth the few hundred bucks a kit costs, right? Tom Prince said the same thing, he could not "afford" GH the year he turned pro. Anyone who knows driven bodybuilders knows they can always somehow come up with the funds for something like GH for prep even when they are dead broke. If he felt he didn't need it at that time, that I can believe - not being able to afford it sounds ridiculous.
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Republican=Self reliance
Democrat=Big Government does it for you
yeah but what is that? a psychoanalysis of someone who VOTES or someone who is actually one of those lol.. thats pretty funny that its so black and white in the US, fucking sucks, why did you guys not make voting compulsory, it shouldn't be a freedom to vote, the word inconclusive doesn't get anyone anywhere.
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Republican= BORROW and spend
Democrat= TAX and spend
That is about it-they are both whores for big business and anyone else who "contributes" to their campaigns.
See abov.
Yeah well printing money isn't the most economically sound thing to do either so borrowing money at least gets advantage now and deals with it later (usually at our childrens expense lol!) but ergo, not voting doesn't solve that issue, see my post above.
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not? Takes guts... why??? Is GH still some mythical compound most don't want to be associated with?
Maybe Chick is being honest about not using it as an amateur but it sounds very very strange to me, not being able to "afford it". Consider the situation: Chick had been trying for a pro card for a long time. Surely he could have found the cash for a few kits to get even a small edge to make the dream come true finally. Surely that goal would have been worth the few hundred bucks a kit costs, right? Tom Prince said the same thing, he could not "afford" GH the year he turned pro. Anyone who knows driven bodybuilders knows they can always somehow come up with the funds for something like GH for prep even when they are dead broke. If he felt he didn't need it at that time, that I can believe - not being able to afford it sounds ridiculous.
Matarrazo admited to using hgh in an old magazine article - said it cost him 10k and wasn't as great as he expected
I guess its useless without insulin (at least if you're already on a tonne of aas)
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Actually...Chick pulled me aside & said he only took 2-3 d-bols
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funny!
an ex girlfreind of one top "genetically" gifted pro told me "he always would miss a meal or two a day and skip cardio and training a day or two every week but he'd never miss a scheduled shot"
Robby juiced and juiced a lot over 30 years wasn't HUGE cycles but dbol anavar wnstrol primo triacana deca test Eq drol all that stuff was used at one time or another...
one thing was right that the guys in the 70's and 80's for the most part juiced before shows and didn't bulk year round for the most part but when you cycle for 30 weeks for a show?? pretty much half a year or more...
i always chuckle when people say larry scott used to use 5-10 mgs of dbol a day and at the time there were chalk bins full of pills winstrol anavar and dbol and guys would walk by and take a few in between sets...also a myth people were "terrorized of steroids" back then...ya right...
triacana, what chris falido the 'natural' took. lol
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He's not lying when he says the room started spinning, he just forgot to add that he smoked weed,took Xanax with a beer, and a line of cocaine.
Cabron !
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Matarrazo admited to using hgh in an old magazine article - said it cost him 10k and wasn't as great as he expected
I guess its useless without insulin (at least if you're already on a tonne of aas)
I actually remember a Matarazzo interview in MMI where he said GH was incredible, as in incredibly effective.
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I actually remember a Matarazzo interview in MMI where he said GH was incredible, as in incredibly effective.
Mike also blames steroids for his bad heart, ignoring the fact that he used to eat 5 lbs of beef everyday
how credible is anything he says? . . .
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I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
why use roids year 'round when they just add a finishing touch? ???
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why use roids year 'round when they just add a finishing touch? ???
Different steroids for different stages of the game......some are for "finishing touch", others are for putting on mass.
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Mike also blames steroids for his bad heart, ignoring the fact that he used to eat 5 lbs of beef everyday
how credible is anything he says? . . .
Now I have not researched how much poor cholesterol affects the heart or health in general - all I know is that some think cholesterol in itself doesn't matter while most of the medical community thinks it is very important to have cholesterol in the "healthy" range. But if cholesterol is to blame it was the steroids that gave him the 0 HDL reading, not meat. Not that the meat helps things when on steroids.
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Different steroids for different stages of the game......some are for "finishing touch", others are for putting on mass.
props for the honesty.
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it's also plain common sense
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When i heard that Matarazzo had heart problems, i really felt bad for him. That guy trained like an animal and allways seemed to be really down to earth. He had an amazing physique and the fact that he ended up with a serious heart condition is fucked up. I for one believe that this is due to his massive red meat consumption. I know that drugs can have a negative impact, but if you eat 5 lbs of red meat a day every day. You can't blame a few grams of test for your problems. Now i love red meat, but i don't eat 5 lbs of it every day...
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I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not? Takes guts... why??? Is GH still some mythical compound most don't want to be associated with?
Maybe Chick is being honest about not using it as an amateur but it sounds very very strange to me, not being able to "afford it". Consider the situation: Chick had been trying for a pro card for a long time. Surely he could have found the cash for a few kits to get even a small edge to make the dream come true finally. Surely that goal would have been worth the few hundred bucks a kit costs, right? Tom Prince said the same thing, he could not "afford" GH the year he turned pro. Anyone who knows driven bodybuilders knows they can always somehow come up with the funds for something like GH for prep even when they are dead broke. If he felt he didn't need it at that time, that I can believe - not being able to afford it sounds ridiculous.
You probably already know this since I have read your posts and you are pretty damn knowledgeable about chems and experienced but 240 is ignorant of bodybuilding itself doesn't understand training or diet and especially chems-it's not an insult to him-just a fact from reading his posts and his lack of experience especially in the last post above about GH-he's a parrot one of those people that will repeat what the read or hear but have no idea what it means.
Unless Bob and Tom were talking about Pharm GH in the late 80's to mid 1990's, I can't see why the GH would be so expensive as Jins could be purchased for well under $300 per 100 iu's back in the late 1990's and well into 2006 . Seros were cheap and plentiful too in the gyms (even before Palumbo's fakes) before the insurance company's changed their policy's a few years a go an HIV positive person was getting a kit a week that's 126 iu's. Many of these kits-tens of thousands of them made their way onto the black market and were dirt cheap.
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lair i dont believe him
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Understatement of the thread. But then again, if you ask Chick, they really just add the finishing touches. LMAO. What a nitwit.
I think the funniest thing is that Chick denies using anything these days. Just look at that fucking ape and tell me that's natural! I guess if you have a prescription or you haven't been caught, it doesn't count
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robbie was being trained by trevor smith for his masters comeback.. trevor told some of us what robbie was using.. it was not a shot every two weeks.. thses oldtimers and the "ironagers" are really good at spewing the crap about what they took.. robbie took them throughout the year as most of them did..
as for mattarozzo.. he , over a year ago, had a interview where he said roids did not have much to with it but, it was because of his high red meat and egg intake everyday ect.. now he changes his tune.. what ever gets ya the publicity i guess..
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I never claimed anything of the sort....we used on and off season, and whatever was state of the art at the time....never used Insulin, IGF...never touched GH until I could afford it, AFTER I turned pro and got a few bucks in my pocket, thought it was overrated.
Nor am I taking any type of "anti" steroid stance as I no longer compete....live and let live.
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Yeah well printing money isn't the most economically sound thing to do either so borrowing money at least gets advantage now and deals with it later (usually at our childrens expense lol!) but ergo, not voting doesn't solve that issue, see my post above.
Maybe, just maybe, we will decide to not pay these countries back ;)
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Steroid users, more secretive than a pedophile. Only on a message board, do these guy boast about their drug use...pathetic.
Crotch does your mother know you used to stick a needle in your butt to get big muscles?
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Maybe, just maybe, we will decide to not pay these countries back ;)
Are you familiar with what happens to global trade agreements with nations that default on debt?
Or just spouting jingoist rhetoric with no real understanding of the newfound trade restrictions and zero debt allowance we'd be granted?
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Robby is an early hero of mine but his drug dosages are completely bogus. If you're going to come clean then COME CLEAN! Don't half ass it
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Are you familiar with what happens to global trade agreements with nations that default on debt?
Or just spouting jingoist rhetoric with no real understanding of the newfound trade restrictions and zero debt allowance we'd be granted?
Check out the big brain on Rob!
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Are you familiar with what happens to global trade agreements with nations that default on debt?
Or just spouting jingoist rhetoric with no real understanding of the newfound trade restrictions and zero debt allowance we'd be granted?
Just joking, kangol...thought I'd imitate what other countries do to us, for a change ;D
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Maybe, just maybe, we will decide to not pay these countries back ;)
Do you know what that would do to this country????/ Possibly destroy it, because that goes t the credibility of the nation. No credibility, no nation. That is what Russia did in 1998, and I ook where they are today-upside down.
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Do you know what that would do to this country????/ Possibly destroy it, because that goes t the credibility of the nation. No credibility, no nation. That is what Russia did in 1998, and I ook where they are today-upside down.
russia is far from upside down, just under the radar.
they are becoming a top 3 superpower once more. being the worlds second largest oil producing nation and interests in banking all over europe make them a very strong player globally, you just don't 'hear' about it all.
and i'm sure they are enjoying the anonymity of it all greatly.
russia is FAR from upside down.
lol
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Do you know what that would do to this country????/ Possibly destroy it, because that goes t the credibility of the nation. No credibility, no nation. That is what Russia did in 1998, and I ook where they are today-upside down.
See my above post, kangol
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russia is far from upside down, just under the radar.
they are becoming a top 3 superpower once more. being the worlds second largest oil producing nation and interests in banking all over europe make them a very strong player globally, you just don't 'hear' about it all.
and i'm sure they are enjoying the anonymity of it all greatly.
russia is FAR from upside down.
lol
A canard.
Built up that way to keep our military strong
They have got the corner on the Vodka-induced alcoholic market, I must aver.
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russia is far from upside down, just under the radar.
they are becoming a top 3 superpower once more. being the worlds second largest oil producing nation and interests in banking all over europe make them a very strong player globally, you just don't 'hear' about it all.
and i'm sure they are enjoying the anonymity of it all greatly.
russia is FAR from upside down.
lol
Russia is like Brazil and Mexico, they are upside down because they are horribly mismanaged. America is looking more and mor elike them everyday. If they did not have any oil they aould be in pure poverty, because they do not know how to build thenation as a whole.
In Russia you have a small number of people, 1/100th of 1% collecting 90% of the countries wealth.
Mexico is even worse, you have 50 families controling 90% of the countries wealth. Out of 110 million people in Mexico, half live in poverty-and they expert that poverty to the USA-and that causes out standard of living to go down.
Countries cannot survive when the top 1/100 of the top 1% steal all the money through public policy.
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Are you familiar with what happens to global trade agreements with nations that default on debt?
Or just spouting jingoist rhetoric with no real understanding of the newfound trade restrictions and zero debt allowance we'd be granted?
Or, I could be negative everyday and then I'd never, ever be as successful as I have been in my own business.
240, you understand this.