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USA leading the way in TERROR
« on: August 21, 2012, 02:05:36 AM »
The US has been carrying out follow-up attacks after its drone strikes in Pakistan, specifically targeting people coming to the aid of the wounded. The tactic has been widely condemned, including by the UN – which considers it a war crime.

A Guardian report by Glenn Greenwald shows the US government's hypocrisy regarding such tactics. While the FBI has warned that “terrorists may use secondary explosive devices to kill and injure emergency personnel responding to an initial attack,” the US regularly applies the same methods.
A 2004 FBI alert warned Americans against secondary attacks meant to “incite more terror,” advising that such incidents can usually be expected within an hour of the initial attack.

“These devices may be hidden in everyday objects such as vehicles, briefcases, flower pots or garbage cans, or can be sequential suicide attacks in the same locations, and are generally detonated less than one hour after the initial attack, targeting first responders as well as the general population,” the alert read.

The second plane crashing into the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001 is considered a secondary attack.
While warning of such tactics, the US government has tried to justify its own employment of them. A 2010 video published by WikiLeaks shows two journalists being killed by an American helicopter targeting insurgents in Baghdad. After rescuers drove to the scene to bring the wounded to hospital, the helicopter once again opened fire – killing children in the process and putting bullets into those who were already visibly dead.
Initially, the US military claimed that all those killed were insurgents, saying it was the Iraqi militants' “fault for bringing kids in to a battle,” The Guardian reported in 2010.

The Geneva Convention concluded that those who “collect and care for the wounded” must be themselves protected from harm. UN special rapporteur Christof Heyns said attacks on rescuers are considered a war crime.
But attacking rescuers has now become the norm for American forces. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism found that the CIA has killed dozens of rescuers and funeral attendees in Pakistan.

The report states that 50 or more civilians had been killed as a result of helping victims – including pulling bodies out of rubble. Between May 2009 and June 2011, news media reported at least 15 attacks on rescuers.

This past weekend, Reuters reported that northern Pakistan saw “a flurry of drone attacks” at a time when most of the country was celebrating the end of Ramadan. At least one of the strikes was a follow-up attack, the International Herald Tribune reports.
Al-Qaeda allegedly ambushed funerals of their attack victims in Yemen over the past few months, sparking outrage by Americans who are condemning the acts.  At the same time, the US continues to employ secondary attacks in its own affairs abroad, in a continuous war against terrorism.
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 02:30:29 AM »
# 1 is always a good thing!!  :(

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 02:33:00 AM »
Hellfire missiles don't come cheap - in fact somebody told me that they cost 50k per piece, you've got to make sure that you get the biggest bang out of your buck (pun intended).

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 03:28:57 AM »
U.S.A needs war like vampire needs blood.

their economy is war based.
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 03:38:01 AM »
U.S.A needs war like vampire needs blood.

their economy is war based.

You saying this like its a bad thing

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 04:27:31 AM »
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 06:17:41 AM »
We wouldn't need drones if it wasn't for savages that live in the stone ages trying to kill Christians and Jews. If it wasn't for oil no one would even know about anything involving the middle east. Anything the US does over there is in retaliation for Muslim extremist terrorism. Stop the attacks on buildings, trains, ships and civilians. Then we have no reason to fly drones over there. We didn't bring the fight to you. You brought the fight to us.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 06:26:49 AM »
We wouldn't need drones if it wasn't for savages that live in the stone ages trying to kill Christians and Jews. If it wasn't for oil no one would even know about anything involving the middle east. Anything the US does over there is in retaliation for Muslim extremist terrorism. Stop the attacks on buildings, trains, ships and civilians. Then we have no reason to fly drones over there. We didn't bring the fight to you. You brought the fight to us.

 ::) you dumbass, "Anything the US does over there is in retaliation for Muslim extremist terrorism. for OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL OIL"
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2012, 06:37:24 AM »
No war at all or full scale.
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2012, 07:08:47 AM »
The USA will continue commiting "war crimes" but understand they USA doesn't follow the geneva convention so according to them they aren't doing anything wrong.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2012, 07:09:35 AM »
We wouldn't need drones if it wasn't for savages that live in the stone ages trying to kill Christians and Jews. If it wasn't for oil no one would even know about anything involving the middle east. Anything the US does over there is in retaliation for Muslim extremist terrorism. Stop the attacks on buildings, trains, ships and civilians. Then we have no reason to fly drones over there. We didn't bring the fight to you. You brought the fight to us.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2012, 07:18:48 AM »
The USA will continue commiting "war crimes" but understand they USA doesn't follow the geneva convention so according to them they aren't doing anything wrong.
Well, then I guess other countries can toss that aside as well and start using chemical weapons again ??!

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2012, 08:13:42 AM »
We wouldn't need drones if it wasn't for savages that live in the stone ages trying to kill Christians and Jews. If it wasn't for oil no one would even know about anything involving the middle east. Anything the US does over there is in retaliation for Muslim extremist terrorism. Stop the attacks on buildings, trains, ships and civilians. Then we have no reason to fly drones over there. We didn't bring the fight to you. You brought the fight to us.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2012, 10:13:04 AM »
sorry, we don't do that.   woudln't do it.  must be some kinda typo.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2012, 11:19:16 AM »
We wouldn't need drones if it wasn't for savages that live in the stone ages trying to kill Christians and Jews. If it wasn't for oil no one would even know about anything involving the middle east. Anything the US does over there is in retaliation for Muslim extremist terrorism. Stop the attacks on buildings, trains, ships and civilians. Then we have no reason to fly drones over there. We didn't bring the fight to you. You brought the fight to us.

Your perspective is plausible if we limit our analysis to the last 20 or so years. But let's expand the universe of discourse here and include an entire century. Now, I'll pick a random example: the CIA overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. What terrorism do you think this was in response to?

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2012, 11:21:07 AM »
Your perspective is plausible if we limit our analysis to the last 20 or so years. But let's expand the universe of discourse here and include an entire century. Now, I'll pick a random example: the CIA overthrew the democratically elected prime minister of Iran in 1953. What terrorism do you think this was in response to?

Different world then, had to make sure a Russia friendly guy didn't take control.
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2012, 12:05:31 PM »
Different world then, had to make sure a Russia friendly guy didn't take control.

Yet we've remained just as involved in the region despite the Soviet Union's demise. That we've behaved the same towards the region both before terrorism and after communism suggests an underlying cause to this behavior. This map provides a clue:



Either that or we REALLY love falafal, and MUST get our fix by periodically invading and getting it fresh from the source.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2012, 12:13:03 PM »
Yet we've remained just as involved in the region despite the Soviet Union's demise. That we've behaved the same towards the region both before terrorism and after communism suggests an underlying cause to this behavior. This map provides a clue:



Either that or we REALLY love falafal, and MUST get our fix by periodically invading and getting it fresh from the source.

Without Russia there to subdue a lot of the region from religion, it's free for all with the "stan's" Old grudges getting settled via civil war/ethnic cleansing.
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2012, 02:13:11 PM »
We wouldn't need drones if it wasn't for savages that live in the stone ages trying to kill Christians and Jews. If it wasn't for oil no one would even know about anything involving the middle east. Anything the US does over there is in retaliation for Muslim extremist terrorism. Stop the attacks on buildings, trains, ships and civilians. Then we have no reason to fly drones over there. We didn't bring the fight to you. You brought the fight to us.
9/11 was just BLOWBACK, not to mention Americas retarded foreign policies and placing bases on there holy land in Saudi Arabia and shitty treatment of Palestinians, America has been supporting dictators in the middle east for half a century blocking democracy and development - and more recently there genocidal sanctions against iraq killed hundred of thousands of people - oddly enough people take exception to murderous and brutal policies.  The greatest threat to World peace is America, and has been for quite some time.  They don't hate your freedoms, they hate your genocidal policies.
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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2012, 02:57:29 PM »
Even 911 is a sham. I was not muslim at the time when it happened but I knew it was a sham. In fact the early evidence pointed to mossad not 'mozzlem extremists' there are semi declassified police reports of the forgeign israeli agents that were arrested but they wont be fully unclassified until like 2030 or 2040 if i recalll... BUT the media is the one that fully engraved and set in stone the whole the evil bin laden.

The fact is as was already pointed out...more than half a century of genocidal policies... this tactic as employed by the Israelis, to blame pre-emptively the victims as savages, as evil, as terrorists, etc... so that America and israel look timid in comparison. Bombarding people over and over with the same slies until they are perceived as truth while undermining and covering up that which does the opposite.

I remember it quite well even with the palestinian-israeli conflict... an israeli soldier is killed and BAM they have a whole BIOGRAPHY of the soldier and his family being talked about on CNN... but 20 palestinians get shot dead... its a tiny ticker at the bomb MAYBE.. lately its not even mentioned at all if 10+ palestinians die in a die... likewise with pakistan, somalia, yemen when US drones kill daily.

America is the real terrorist. This is george orwell 1984 in the making. LOL I wrote an essay back in high school comparing George W Bush and the US government alongside Tony Blair and the british government to that of 1984... Creepily eerily resembling this reality...


And as far as what Islam has to say this struck me very hard the first time I read the qur'an and I remember it every day:

Surah Al-Baqarah:

11. And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers."

12. Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2012, 03:01:10 PM »
Can't say I care.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2012, 03:05:02 PM »
Even 911 is a sham. I was not muslim at the time when it happened but I knew it was a sham. In fact the early evidence pointed to mossad not 'mozzlem extremists' there are semi declassified police reports of the forgeign israeli agents that were arrested but they wont be fully unclassified until like 2030 or 2040 if i recalll... BUT the media is the one that fully engraved and set in stone the whole the evil bin laden.

The fact is as was already pointed out...more than half a century of genocidal policies... this tactic as employed by the Israelis, to blame pre-emptively the victims as savages, as evil, as terrorists, etc... so that America and israel look timid in comparison. Bombarding people over and over with the same slies until they are perceived as truth while undermining and covering up that which does the opposite.

I remember it quite well even with the palestinian-israeli conflict... an israeli soldier is killed and BAM they have a whole BIOGRAPHY of the soldier and his family being talked about on CNN... but 20 palestinians get shot dead... its a tiny ticker at the bomb MAYBE.. lately its not even mentioned at all if 10+ palestinians die in a die... likewise with pakistan, somalia, yemen when US drones kill daily.

America is the real terrorist. This is george orwell 1984 in the making. LOL I wrote an essay back in high school comparing George W Bush and the US government alongside Tony Blair and the british government to that of 1984... Creepily eerily resembling this reality...


And as far as what Islam has to say this struck me very hard the first time I read the qur'an and I remember it every day:

Surah Al-Baqarah:

11. And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers."

12. Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.

Try to turn down the drama a bit and answer me this: why would Al Qaeda play along with the false plot all these years, especially if it was planned and executed by Mossad or some other such Israeli group?

Also, why is the evidence for your views always hidden away somewhere rather than in your possession? Does it ever concern you that you have no evidence for any of your positions? Evidence exists for lots of controversial claims, e.g. CIA coups and assassinations and other things American citizens would be disgusted at, yet your conspiracy claims remained utterly unsubstantiated. Have you ever considered revising these views on the basis of evidence (or lack thereof), or do you adopt them quickly and without concern for truth?

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 03:06:05 PM »
Try to turn down the drama a bit and answer me this: why would Al Qaeda play along with the false plot all these years, especially if it was planned and executed by Mossad or some other such Israeli group?

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 03:44:26 PM »
Try to turn down the drama a bit and answer me this: why would Al Qaeda play along with the false plot all these years, especially if it was planned and executed by Mossad or some other such Israeli group?

Also, why is the evidence for your views always hidden away somewhere rather than in your possession? Does it ever concern you that you have no evidence for any of your positions? Evidence exists for lots of controversial claims, e.g. CIA coups and assassinations and other things American citizens would be disgusted at, yet your conspiracy claims remained utterly unsubstantiated. Have you ever considered revising these views on the basis of evidence (or lack thereof), or do you adopt them quickly and without concern for truth?

What IS al-qaeda? It literally means base, or rather database that the CIA held of the then mujahedin fighting the soviets that the US funded.

The whole boogey man al-qaeda, that every black cat crossing a street is al-qaeda is fear mongering the media played very well.

Bin laden over and over again said he did not and was not a part of the plot that occured. He's been interviewed several times. What he has mentioned though in his interviews is the atrocities of the United States over and over again and apparently that's 'proof' that he did it?!?! Makes no sense.

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Re: USA leading the way in TERROR
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2012, 03:50:14 PM »
A Ahmed is another small-dicked societal outcast cut in the same cloth as his mass-murdering, epileptic pedophile of a "prophet" who was nothing more than a fat fuck with an ego.

You should read that pederast's posts on the jizya.

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2. You apparently rather pay 30-40% tax than 2% tax? Paying jizya tax is for able men, if you are women, children, elderly or a man with no wealth you do not have to pay it and still would enjoy the protection of muslims. Able men are to pay 2% on their wealth, can own land (something you cannot actually do in the west, you never OWN the land, it's government's property), you can own and run your business, you can practice your faith and beliefs within your place of worship, you have the military protection of the caliphate (just as any nation today claims to do, to protect its citizen). It's basically citizenship.

I am paying in the range of 30-40% tax living in a virtual prison state eminating lies and corruption on the whole of society, people living on anti-depressants, living paycheque to paycheque, working 40+ hours a week and suffering with mental issues. I rather not live in this society but it's all I have for now.

In Muslim countries there are secular dictatorships and rules of kings, no rule of Islam. Although I've lived there and enjoyed living there I would feel less safe there as a muslim than once when I was there as a non-muslim. That being said, the money you earn is your money and you pay no tax even.

And taking all that into account, 2% is nothing. Fear mongering people away from Islam does you disservice as it did to the once Qureish tribe that was slandering and trying to stop the spread of Islam and tried every effort to humiliate and demonize muslims.

Your enemy is not Islam. Your enemy is the pentagon, the military industrial complex, washington, AIPAC, israel, corporate lobbies, these scum bags are your enemy. People working in white lab coats inventing new killing machines, new killing weapons, new killing means, spreading cancers, corrupting society through media. How about bankers? World Bank? Monteray fund garbage? Federal reserve which is not even federal? Zionists/Aipac/ADL that run washington and every president of america has to kiss their ass and bend over to be raped before in office or to even stay in office? Trilateral commision? Bilderbergs? Council on foreign relations? All the same bag of elitist garbage that see Islam as a threat to their power on this earth.

These are your enemy and the enemy of mankind. There will not be peace on this earth for as long as the united states and its 'allies' wreck havoc on the earth.

We live in a saddistic sad world... and the perpetrators are calling themselves victims while the actual victims are demonized and slandered day in and day out, night in and night out.