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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: nzmusclemonster on January 28, 2014, 12:21:04 PM
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In one game....
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He tried out for Dallas or something......the guy was a monster, but NFL football is just a different beast. Go All Blacks
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Love watching the Tuilagi brothers play to. They are just beast.
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He's not that tough.
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Was certainly more successful on the rugby field than on the thong stage.
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he was great against pesky white slow accountants .. NFL are a different breed .. MUCH faster, stronger and bigger athletes ..
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Love watching the Tuilagi brothers play to. They are just beast.
Men amongst boys on some of those hits...dudes crumbling. There are few better feelings in the world then stiff arming a tackler and feeling them crumble....
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Guy was a monster on the rugby pitch. Size, strength, acceleration, agility.....Lomu in his prime had it all.
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youtube walter payton
bo Jackson
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Bo was a freak.....bo would have been good at anything, and was. Hell he's fucking bad ass with a bow.
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Yea its funny how with his bulk and shape he looked like absolute shit dieted down, no development, muscle quality or anything worthy of the stage.
Was certainly more successful on the rugby field than on the thong stage.
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Yea its funny how with his bulk and shape he looked like absolute shit dieted down, no development, muscle quality or anything worthy of the stage.
Just as we always say about permabulkers...if they get lean,they get small.
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Just as we always say about permabulkers...if they get lean,they get small.
Thanks captain obvious. Get lean means getting small. I assume then bulking up means getting big?
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Thanks captain obvious. Get lean means getting small. I assume then bulking up means getting big?
You know what I mean bro....huge guy thinks he`s huge,diets down and finds out he doesn`t have near as much muscle mass as he thought.
Better ?
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Yea but so strange with the weight drop he has no
density, cuts, definition or vascularity. He almost looks skinny fat
You know what I mean bro....huge guy thinks he`s huge,diets down and finds out he doesn`t have near as much muscle mass as he thought.
Better ?
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Yea but so strange with the weight drop he has no
density, cuts, definition or vascularity. He almost looks skinny fat
Exactly.
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Was certainly more successful on the rugby field than on the thong stage.
LMFAO...Voodoo Vince would have beaten him. Lomu must be delusional...
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Yea but so strange with the weight drop he has no
density, cuts, definition or vascularity. He almost looks skinny fat
It is odd I agree. You would expect this guy to look impressive but he looks like shit. ???
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worth noting he was very ill for a while and had a kidney transplant a few years before stepping onstage. He wasnt born to be a bodybuilder and im pretty sure in his prime he would have swatted most of us like flies. Freak human being.
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100% Tongan 8)
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Did he play against any Hebrew opponents?
Babe Ruth never had to do this so I think he is overrated.
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worth noting he was very ill for a while and had a kidney transplant a few years before stepping onstage. He wasnt born to be a bodybuilder and im pretty sure in his prime he would have swatted most of us like flies. Freak human being.
I was trying to remember what happened to him..he tried to make a comeback with the All Blacks in the mid-2000s as I recall. Its kinda funny people making fun of Jonah Lomu here...this guy is a legend.
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I know I lol @ little bitch ass wes talking about Lomu.
Dude had a kidney transplant.
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I was trying to remember what happened to him..he tried to make a comeback with the All Blacks in the mid-2000s as I recall. Its kinda funny people making fun of Jonah Lomu here...this guy is a legend.
I`m not making fun of him at all.
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No wes I didn't think you were....kinda shocked at his appearance as well.
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If you don't have Olympia top 6-level mass and conditioning year-round then getbig will mock you unceasingly.
Such are things
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He probably would have looked like shit even without the Kidney Transplant.
Oh brother, I love how you men hold special places in your heart for sports idols. You are part of the problem as to why he is delusional.
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No wes I didn't think you were....kinda shocked at his appearance as well.
Sorry bud,I thought you were referring to me. :)
Big guy,but I think he had less muscle to begin with than he realized.
I had no clue he had kidney problems.
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kidney problems aside, he must have been deluded to step on stage looking like this
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He probably would have looked like shit even without the Kidney Transplant.
Oh brother, I love how you men hold special places in your heart for sports idols. You are part of the problem as to why he is delusional.
Sports idols....he used to run through dudes...I kinda respect that. Plus I played the game and he was at the top of his...again I respect that. Besides your love of dogs, you're a kind of a tool...you define hipster douchbag without being an actual hipster.
There is a certain joy in taking a rubgy ball or football and friggen crushing another human into the ground legally. Its better then drugs and maybe sex as it doesn't happen near as often.
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kidney problems aside, he must have been deluded to step on stage looking like this
YIKES!!
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Yeah..none of that helped. But in any event he used to be able to run through brickwalls. He's getting bad advice here....
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Jonah in his Prime years (Mid 1990s) was a Freak for the era...No doubt about it, @ that Time NO-ONE had his Speed combined with Explosive power, Strength, Height, agility etc etc, we had the Security Contract for the THEN super 12 Rugby competition, so i got too see him up close several times on the field, he was the freak of freaks back then you had anywhere from 2-4 guys @ the same time trying too drag him too the ground and he was STILL bucking like hell too go forward
what i recall about him most though was simply this...after each game (Back then) the fans would run onto the pitch...to get up close on personal shake hands with there Idols, autographs etc, we of course had too make sure they were kept safe from all the Ass-holes who would try something else, 1 game in Particular in Taranaki (N.Z) i recall the match had finished everyone (the players) started running off the field too hit the showers etc signing the odd autograph along the way, Jonah just stood there while he was Mobbed for autographs...i kid you not 1 hour later he was STILL standing there signing autographs in the middle of the field everyone of his team mates were dressed and calling out too him they had too go with the team bus idling in the car-park...He just waved them off and said he would catch them up later...and went on signing, we dropped him off later the afternoon @ there Hotel, while in the van i asked him why did he stay around for so long afterwards..
He just said in a serious tone...i recall when i was a Kid...looking up too my idols back in the day like John Kirwin and Tugilamala...i would hope and pray like hell they would sign my piece of paper after a match...and they did...i made myself a promise i would NEVER every want too leave a little kid hoping he could get a Hand shaken...a Autograph signed and just walk away i will never do that too a Little kid... thats want i recall most about the Man, in NZ Rugby circles he was the Man...and IMO he still is too this day.
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Perhaps it was just something he wanted to do one time in his life? No expectancy, no delusions of grandeur, just something to say he did regardless of how he looked. Ive seen worse physiques on a pro stage.
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kidney problems aside, he must have been deluded to step on stage looking like this
And your point with posting crap pictures of a Old guy onstage is? he was a Rugby union player in his prime not a "Bodybuilder", the fact he got up onstage wasnt the smartest thing too do but hey he had a Go even though he looked like that.
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Perhaps it was just something he wanted to do one time in his life? No expectancy, no delusions of grandeur, just something to say he did regardless of how he looked. Ive seen worse physiques on a pro stage.
Exactly
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When I started playing in the early 90's we would watch VHS tapes of either the Boks, All blacks or Wales..(welsh coach) everybody picked a team. Watching him crush people like Johnny1 mentioned was unreal. I got a huge All Blacks banner from the Kiwi's during my first tour in A-Stan...the symbol on one side and Jonah on the other. I had it framed.....
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rugby guys need to up the dose b4 coming to nfl
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Does all blacks mean "All Hebrews"? ???
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i expected him to transition well into bodybuilding, i was surprised when i saw the pictures. But fair game to him for giving it a shot
And your point with posting crap pictures of a Old guy onstage is? he was a Rugby union player in his prime not a "Bodybuilder", the fact he got up onstage wasnt the smartest thing too do but hey he had a Go even though he looked like that.
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Perhaps it was just something he wanted to do one time in his life? No expectancy, no delusions of grandeur, just something to say he did regardless of how he looked. Ive seen worse physiques on a pro stage.
No you haven't
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kidney problems aside, he must have been deluded to step on stage looking like this
He is only 38? ???
Looks in his 60s.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=515705.0;attach=552896;image)
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Better at what?
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I spent some time hanging with Jonah during the 99 world cup in Cardiff. Guy was incredible humble and generous with his fans. As a physical specimen on the rugby field he was immense.The most devastating runner with a ball in hand i have ever seen.His power in something else.
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Earl Campbell would have steamrolled this clown.
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Earl Campbell would have steamrolled this clown.
this x 1000000
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No you haven't
yes i have....
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With all Due respect as Great a Legend and Player the Great Earl Campbell was with all that Protective padding, Helmet, etc on, he wouldnt of "Steamroll" Jonah in a 1000 years, if we are talking about both in their Youth/Prime, if Memory serves right i think Earl was a click or 2 under 6ft and for his Time a Power-packed 108-110kg and could really run... 10.5-10.6... or with ever it was for the 100m, in Comparison Lomu was 6 ft 5-6ft 6...and 120-122kg with a best in the 100 of anywhere from 10.8-10.9sec.
You combine those 2 both in there primes running STRAIGHT @ one another with NO PROTECTIVE gear on (as Lomu did his whole career) you tell me whos going too stream roll who...
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With all Due respect as Great a Legend and Player the Great Earl Campbell was with all that Protective padding, Helmet, etc on, he wouldnt of "Steamroll" Jonah in a 1000 years, if we are talking about both in their Youth/Prime, if Memory serves right i think Earl was a click or 2 under 6ft and for his Time a Power-packed 108-110kg and could really run... 10.5-10.6... or with ever it was for the 100m, in Comparison Lomu was 6 ft 5-6ft 6...and 120-122kg with a best in the 100 of anywhere from 10.8-10.9sec.
You combine those 2 both in there primes running STRAIGHT @ one another with NO PROTECTIVE gear on (as Lomu did his whole career) you tell me whos going too stream roll who...
Campbell.
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Jim Thorpe would have beaten the piss out of "Jonah Lomu".
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/T/Jim-Thorpe-9507017-1-402.jpg)
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Jim Thorpe would have beaten the piss out of "Jonah Lomu".
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/T/Jim-Thorpe-9507017-1-402.jpg)
Hell yes! And a far superior athlete in every way. And if he had chosen to don the thong he would have relegated "Lame-o" to the second tier status he deserves.
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Jim Thorpe would have beaten the piss out of "Jonah Lomu".
Hahahaa
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Jim Thorpe would have beaten the piss out of "Jonah Lomu".
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/T/Jim-Thorpe-9507017-1-402.jpg)
x2 great American
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Michael fukcing Jordan was basically laughed at for trying to play baseball. And some of you here are saying that this guy shouldn't be laughed at for wearing a thong onstage and looking like a bag of smashed assholes. Give me a break.
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With all Due respect as Great a Legend and Player the Great Earl Campbell was with all that Protective padding, Helmet, etc on, he wouldnt of "Steamroll" Jonah in a 1000 years, if we are talking about both in their Youth/Prime, if Memory serves right i think Earl was a click or 2 under 6ft and for his Time a Power-packed 108-110kg and could really run... 10.5-10.6... or with ever it was for the 100m, in Comparison Lomu was 6 ft 5-6ft 6...and 120-122kg with a best in the 100 of anywhere from 10.8-10.9sec.
You combine those 2 both in there primes running STRAIGHT @ one another with NO PROTECTIVE gear on (as Lomu did his whole career) you tell me whos going too stream roll who...
Bleacher Report article says Lomu was 6'-5" and 265-283 lbs with a 10.6 in the 100m dash.
I don't know much about rugby, but those are ridiculous stats (if accurate). He may not have been a NFL running back, but I'm sure TE/LB wouldn't have been out of the question.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/636967-nfl-why-rugby-legend-jonah-lomu-was-the-best-running-back-who-never-put-on-pads
NFL: Why Rugby Legend Jonah Lomu Was the Best Running Back Who Never Put on Pads
For those who have not seen what Jonah Lomu can do on the field, you only need to see some of the footage from his career to understand.
Now that we're all on the same page concerning his talent, it's time to run through just how physically imposing he is.
Lomu stands 6'5" tall and weighed between 270 to 280 pounds during his playing career. While this might sound like he's all brawn with no speed, the man ran a 100-metre sprint in 10.8 seconds in high school.
When the Dallas Cowboys were looking into bringing him to the NFL, his predicted 40-yard dash time was just under 4.5. For comparisons sake, the lightning-fast Darrius Heyward-Bey ran a 100-metre sprint in 10.54 seconds in high school.
If that is not enough, he had a lethal combination of speed, leg drive, upper body strength and agility in and out of cuts. He could have carved up or bowled straight through defensive secondaries in the NFL—and that's without mentioning his famed fend (stiff arm), which has to be one of the best ever in any sport.
For those who doubt the tackling ability of rugby players, you shouldn't.
While they certainly don't dive in as recklessly as NFL defenders do, they are technically sound. If you look, in most games, they don't look stupid trying to tackle someone.
Lomu's ability to cut at speed meant that very few players were able to get clean hits on him. Granted, he was no Barry Sanders, but he could always get just enough wiggle to get a defender off balance and force them into arm-tackles around his monstrous thighs.
Another point is the size discrepancy between him and his competition. This was a question mark when the Cowboys were analysing him. After all, the only rugby players who normally get anywhere near 260 pounds are the props.
Running through players this size is not entirely foreign to Lomu, however. He does blast through plenty of 230-245 pound players on his way to the try line, and his running power and leg drive do seem to rival some of the great power backs like Earl Campbell and Eddie George. I would be comfortable letting him loose on linebackers.
The greatest reason why Lomu would be a better running back than a rugby winger is the running start that a running back gets.
After the 1995 Rugby World Cup, defenses would place a defender right on Lomu and not allow him any time to build up speed.
This tactic would be completely eliminated on an American Football field, where he would consistently get a five or six-yard run-up to get up to speed and hit "beast mode."
The real issue that would have struck Lomu if he'd joined the NFL would have been reading blocks.
Running in a rugby game is totally open field, with no blockers to help out.
While this would have worked in Lomu's favour as he matured into the sport, he would have had issues finding cut back lanes and reading gaps in the offensive line early in his hypothetical career.
David Ramos/Getty Images
Despite this obstacle, I truly believe that Lomu could have been an All-Pro running back in the NFL if he gave it a go in his prime. He had the size, power and leg strength to be a bulldozer between the tackles and the speed and cutting ability to cause havoc on outside runs and in the open field. His tight end size, long arms and height would give him all the tools to be a good pass protector in the backfield, as well as a safe receiver out of the backfield.
One of the greatest pleasures of my childhood in New Zealand was watching Jonah steamroll past, over and around defenders for my beloved All Blacks. I just wish he could have done the same in the NFL.
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Finally someone that is more narrow than Phil Heath.
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/09/15/1225773/685790-jonah-lomu.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Mardel_24-1-01_lomu_en_villa_marista_foto_fabian_gastiarena.jpg/776px-Mardel_24-1-01_lomu_en_villa_marista_foto_fabian_gastiarena.jpg)
(http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1259051503/732/3063732.jpg)
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Finally someone that is more narrow than Phil Heath.
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/09/15/1225773/685790-jonah-lomu.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Mardel_24-1-01_lomu_en_villa_marista_foto_fabian_gastiarena.jpg/776px-Mardel_24-1-01_lomu_en_villa_marista_foto_fabian_gastiarena.jpg)
(http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1259051503/732/3063732.jpg)
And a nice set of manboobs.
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And a nice set of manboobs.
I bet he can`t even do the whole stack on the Pec Deck machine.
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Finally someone that is more narrow than Phil Heath.
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2009/09/15/1225773/685790-jonah-lomu.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Mardel_24-1-01_lomu_en_villa_marista_foto_fabian_gastiarena.jpg/776px-Mardel_24-1-01_lomu_en_villa_marista_foto_fabian_gastiarena.jpg)
(http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1259051503/732/3063732.jpg)
The first photo looks like the head is photoshopped onto it.
It looks like there is less PEDs in rugby than in the NFL.
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8rLZ2aoCt4Y/TiHVbDE7YcI/AAAAAAAAfg4/RuYl-QM4dPk/s1600/215283_1925857219830_1044132525_32185716_7478635_na.jpg)
(http://www.sportingbreakdown.com/image/sports/1209/jonah-lomu-new-zealand-rugby-union-sports-1349070828.jpg)
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Ive seen an interview with him where he claimed to squat 750lbs for 12 reps ::)
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yea great until his kidneys gave out due to a "rare genetic condition" hahaha :D
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lol @ the pudgy samoan running a 10.6 in highscool without being a track athlete .. 700lbs squat for reps etc ... a LOT of BS
He was a very good rugby player given the opposition who was clearly physically inferior
If Lomu would have gone to NFL as a youngster, maybe he would have been really good
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lol @ the pudgy samoan running a 10.6 in highscool without being a track athlete .. 700lbs squat for reps etc ... a LOT of BS
He was a very good rugby player given the opposition who was clearly physically inferior
If Lomu would have gone to NFL as a youngster, maybe he would have been really good
Lomu is TONGAN, not samoan.
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Lomu would have cleaned out a bar quicker than Jake the Muss ha ha, man was a phenom.
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Did he play against any Hebrew opponents?
Babe Ruth never had to do this so I think he is overrated.
Right because blacks are renowned for their overwhelming number of legendary pitchers ::)
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Lomu would have cleaned out a bar quicker than Jake the Muss ha ha, man was a phenom.
I am sure the stench cleaned out many bars.
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I bet he can`t even do the whole stack on the Pec Deck machine.
;D
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Ive seen an interview with him where he claimed to squat 750lbs for 12 reps ::)
Typical Getbigger warm up.
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lol @ the pudgy samoan running a 10.6 in highscool without being a track athlete .. 700lbs squat for reps etc ... a LOT of BS
He was a very good rugby player given the opposition who was clearly physically inferior
If Lomu would have gone to NFL as a youngster, maybe he would have been really good
I don't know where the 10.6 that was posted earlier is coming from. The poster referenced wiki but wiki says he ran a 10.89 s for the 100 meters.
10.89 is a great time for a big guy but I don't think it's remarkable for NFL tight end-caliber athletes.
Wiki says Vernon Davis ran a 10.7 for example.
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Can you imagine an athlete of Lomu's calibre in the American system? One thing ill say is they have the best of everything and make people better than they thought they could be. Lomu with those facilities and guidance would have been unbelievable by anyones standards considering what he achieved with what he had.
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Lomu is TONGAN, not samoan.
same difference. ;D
language 90% identical, culture 90% identical, food 98% identical, place of origin 100% identical (Trop Island)..funny though how they hate eachother. Especially old school.
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Bo was a freak.....bo would have been good at anything, and was. Hell he's fucking bad ass with a bow.
Bo was the greatest! No one excelled at 2 sports the way he did!
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I am sure the stench cleaned out many bars.
;D
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Jim Thorpe would have beaten the piss out of "Jonah Lomu".
(http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/T/Jim-Thorpe-9507017-1-402.jpg)
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lomu would've broken that cunts fucking back
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as much as i agree i wouldnt have put it like that, however i just laughed like fuck reading that ha ha
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Thorpe = Olympian
Lame-o = third rate sport
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Can you imagine an athlete of Lomu's calibre in the American system? One thing ill say is they have the best of everything and make people better than they thought they could be. Lomu with those facilities and guidance would have been unbelievable by anyones standards considering what he achieved with what he had.
This.
With his physical gifts he would likely have been an astonishing player with a start at the right age and the resources behind him.
Why so many American getbiggers can't and won't admit this I don't know.
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Alright I will post a serious response. This guy would not have likely been a RB. He would have been converted to LB Or DE. Possibly TE if he could catch. A guy that tall would just be a huge target. Especially his knees. IF he had played RB he would have taken a shitload of punishment. Kinda like Christian Okoye. Most dominant RB's in the NFL are 6ft and more compact.
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This.
With his physical gifts he would likely have been an astonishing player with a start at the right age and the resources behind him.
Why so many American getbiggers can't and won't admit this I don't know.
Because Americans buy into the myth , about Football players being the greatest athletes in the world .
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Because Americans buy into the myth , about Football players being the greatest athletes in the world .
Maybe they should have weight classes. ::)
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He has the body of an athletic alcoholic. Kidney probably gave out because he chronically had too much sugar in his gas tank...
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typical spaced out europeans thinking some short stumpy roided dude is anywhere near top NFL
ever heard of walter payton?
get outa here with your rugby faggotry
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Because Americans buy into the myth , about Football players being the greatest athletes in the world .
yes yes soccer players are much better athletes
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typical spaced out europeans thinking some short stumpy roided dude is anywhere near top NFL
ever heard of walter payton?
get outa here with your rugby faggotry
Faggotry? hahahahaha ok bud. Love to see you last a full game. No way would any NFL player hit the way they do now without helmet and pads. And no temple your tampons dont count as protection. NFL players are too scared of getting hurt to play this game. Rightly so because NFL pays millions. But puck the NFL, this is a game for men so lets see you and your vagina on a full game of hits and cardio.
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Faggotry? hahahahaha ok bud. Love to see you last a full game. No way would any NFL player hit the way they do now without helmet and pads. And no temple your tampons dont count as protection. NFL players are too scared of getting hurt to play this game. Rightly so because NFL pays millions. But puck the NFL, this is a game for men so lets see you and your vagina on a full game of hits and cardio.
Nfl players hit harder and get more fucked up from their sport, even with the pads. I don't know what you think they're scared of ???
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Actually the opposite and why they get hurt. False sense of protection from the pads. I don't think they'd or hit as hard if they weren't wearing it. It'd bring them back down to reality.
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Every NFL player can play rugby, not a single rugby player can play football besides a punter or kicker
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Nope. Most were not raised with NFL but if they were could have certainly played the sport wit ease.
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Actually the opposite and why they get hurt. False sense of protection from the pads. I don't think they'd or hit as hard if they weren't wearing it. It'd bring them back down to reality.
Ummm so if nfl players get more hurt while wearing pads, how so you explain that if not for them hitting harder?
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How many games do rugby teams play in a season?
How many games per week?
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I think they are like soccer players and NBA players like LeBron and make it a habit to flail themselves at the most convenient time.
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lol look art all the padding....what a bunch of sissys
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I think they are like soccer players and NBA players like LeBron and make it a habit to flail themselves at the most convenient time.
Hmmm yes, excellent point. Enough about rugby players though, let's talk about a real sport
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Every NFL player can play rugby, not a single rugby player can play football besides a punter or kicker
Oh boy, most ignorant comment of the Thread!
In rugby the play will often go for over a minute. How often does the play go over a minute in nfl?
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Oh boy, most ignorant comment of the Thread!
In rugby the play will often go for over a minute. How often does the play go over a minute in nfl?
The fact that it goes over a minute means they half ass it for 57 seconds of it
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Non American "athletes" ::) ::) ::)
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lol at this pathetic rugby v NFL argument....
The truth is both sports have superb athletes and players at the top of both sports would probably excell (with the right training) at either.
Incidentally the reason that NFL players wear padding is not because of the huge hits exactly... its because they wear helmets. As soon as you wear helmets, you need body protection...
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lol at this pathetic rugby v NFL argument....
The truth is both sports have superb athletes and players at the top of both sports would probably excell (with the right training) at either.
Incidentally the reason that NFL players wear padding is not because of the huge hits exactly... its because they wear helmets. As soon as you wear helmets, you need body protection...
There is no NFL vs. Rugby "argument"
If these rugby players were so incredibly gifted they would be over in the states making massive amounts of cash through contracts and endorsements.
But they can't because they simply don't have the talent to last on the NFL level. Period.
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If that were true you'd see a lot of guys trying and failing. They seem to be pretty happy where they're at. I'm sure somebody can pull up the salaries of the big sides. Besides hard to switch sports like that...unpadded to padded, rules etc. These guys have been playing it since they were little kids.
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nfl players wear more armour than medieval knights
they would last about 10 mins in a top level rugby game
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There is no NFL vs. Rugby "argument"
If these rugby players were so incredibly gifted they would be over in the states making massive amounts of cash through contracts and endorsements.
But they can't because they simply don't have the talent to last on the NFL level. Period.
Well wide of the mark.. :D
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If that were true you'd see a lot of guys trying and failing. They seem to be pretty happy where they're at. I'm sure somebody can pull up the salaries of the big sides. Besides hard to switch sports like that...unpadded to padded, rules etc. These guys have been playing it since they were little kids.
You have some rugby players that come and try their luck in the NFL, without much success. Most recently some guy came to play for the Indianapolis Colts. Big fast Hebrew, but he only played a few snaps on special teams.
How much do top rugby players make?
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If you haven't played both...not sure you can remotely try and compare the to. Besides Ruggers generally aren't sloppy head hunting tacklers. We spent a good portion of practice wrapping and tackling. The NFL can't do that anymore with the rules on practice limits. They're two different games.
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You have some rugby players that come and try their luck in the NFL, without much success. Most recently some guy came to play for the Indianapolis Colts. Big fast Hebrew, but he only played a few snaps on special teams.
How much do top rugby players make?
The Pats have a guy that was a top D1 player at Ohio State..he would have played rugby professionally but made the draft and stuck with the Pats as a special teamer. Granted USA rugby can't pay much but the national sides in foreign countries...I have no idea.
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http://www.tsmplug.com/richlist/highest-paid-rugby-players-2014-top-14-league/
The top salary listed here equates to about $911,000 in a year.
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i dont think money is always the deciding factor
i think most rugby players would be embarrassed wearing that much armour
for five seconds of action every 20 mins
most of them seem to just push each other for a few seconds like toddlers fighting
worse sport ever
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The best of any sport are schooled and moulded in it from single digits. How the hell is someone like Dan Carter - an athlete by any definition of the word - going to be able to get a scholarship to a University in the USA when he is cultivating his skills at Rugby in New Zealand at the same time the likes of Tom Brady are honing their skills at American Football? Think about it realistically, give everyone the same chance from 11 years old and you would see a wider variety of ethnicities in the NFL.
Theres a reason its called American Football, no other fucking nation takes an interest in it.
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i dont think money is always the deciding factor
i think most rugby players would be embarrassed wearing that much armour
for five seconds of action every 20 mins
most of them seem to just push each other for a few seconds like toddlers fighting
worse sport ever
Yes, these brave warriors pass up $60 million contracts because they would be embarrassed to wear pads. Makes sense
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Great test ::)
They use a PROFESSIONAL NFL player for one test and some City League Rugby players for the other? That's like a college student going up against a middle school kid. But whatever. I've played both and can tell you that rugby was a much more physical game by far. Football players are strong but wonder if they have the cardio to play rugby and keep strength levels and intensity up the whole game
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Right because blacks are renowned for their overwhelming number of legendary pitchers ::)
Are you mentally disabled? Some of the best pitchers ever were black, in every era of baseball.
It seems likely you're another Eric Francke account though so I should probably just ignore you.
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The best of any sport are schooled and moulded in it from single digits. How the hell is someone like Dan Carter - an athlete by any definition of the word - going to be able to get a scholarship to a University in the USA when he is cultivating his skills at Rugby in New Zealand at the same time the likes of Tom Brady are honing their skills at American Football? Think about it realistically, give everyone the same chance from 11 years old and you would see a wider variety of ethnicities in the NFL.
Theres a reason its called American Football, no other fucking nation takes an interest in it.
You also have to look at other things. We have a feeder system for three basic sports. Football, basketball, and baseball. Plus other sports as well. Hell, over here field hockey is a girl's sport, but I believe in NZ and other places more men play it.
Then look at the scouting, and scholarships. I am not saying that it's not a business elsewhere but, you are looking at a multibillion business. Like soccer.
Thing is, NZ doesn't doesn't have the genetic diversity, and the pacific /polys/Micro-nesians are not as genetically diverse as the Africans...plus, they are from islands. Pacific Islands are/were isolated from large continental land masses, therefore separated from large population with varying genetics, and varying harsh environments to adapt.
Rugby is primarily played by former English colonies---or English colonies that have a lot of a ritual in them, meaning they still look up to England as Mommy, and keep a lot of similar things, such a slang and accents.
America is the British colony that had said EFF YOU and we will do out own thing, our own way. And we became who we are because of that.
Which is why I believe a lot of this rugby animosity comes from. A lot of the former colonies identities are strongly tied to British forms of sports, culture, entertainment. Which can be a a good or bad thing. Their culture has not fostered the cultivation of their own separate identity, which is what the US has done with football, baseball, basketball, lacrosse (American Indian sport)...
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Yes, these brave warriors pass up $60 million contracts because they would be embarrassed to wear pads. Makes sense
its called integrity
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You also have to look at other things. We have a feeder system for three basic sports. Football, basketball, and baseball. Plus other sports as well. Hell, over here field hockey is a girl's sport, but I believe in NZ and other places more men play it.
Then look at the scouting, and scholarships. I am not saying that it's not a business elsewhere but, you are looking at a multibillion business. Like soccer.
Thing is, NZ doesn't doesn't have the genetic diversity, and the pacific /polys/Micro-nesians are not as genetically diverse as the Africans...plus, they are from islands. Pacific Islands are/were isolated from large continental land masses, therefore separated from large population with varying genetics, and varying harsh environments to adapt.
Rugby is primarily played by former English colonies---or English colonies that have a lot of a ritual in them, meaning they still look up to England as Mommy, and keep a lot of similar things, such a slang and accents.
America is the British colony that had said EFF YOU and we will do out own thing, our own way. And we became who we are because of that.
Which is why I believe a lot of this rugby animosity comes from. A lot of the former colonies identities are strongly tied to British forms of sports, culture, entertainment. Which can be a a good or bad thing. Their culture has not fostered the cultivation of their own separate identity, which is what the US has done with football, baseball, basketball, lacrosse (American Indian sport)...
So you are trying to say that americans breed better athletes for a tougher sport while the pacific southwest breeds genetically inferior or sometimes obese athletes who play a girlier sport.
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So you are trying to say that americans breed better athletes for a tougher sport while the pacific southwest breeds genetically inferior or sometimes obese athletes who play a girlier sport.
No, rugby is tough. And actually, if you are referencing what I said about field hockey, I believe it's mostly peoples of European descent playing that.
But, what I am saying is that America does breed athletes that are better for their selective sports than most other countries. America puts more emphasis on sports than academics. Which is ass backwards.
It had been mentioned that Lomu ran a 10.8 in high school. Do you how many HS seniors in the US who are faster than that? Tons.
Also, a lot of Pacific Islanders make it into the NFL as lineman....so they are not genetically "inferior". They fit quite well for that position.
240 can tell you that in Florida, HS football games are big business and have big crowds. And anybody in who lives Texas can tell you same.
America's feeder system for the Big Three sports, starts from when they are younger than 10, and follows, and is very competitive. The not so good, don't make it. The genetically better, smarter, faster, and lucky go on.
It's just that the pool for Football is far greater than that for rugby.
Look at most of the F1 drivers, many of them were racing carts since before they were 10, some of them since they were 6.
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Rugby players do that thing where they all get together in a circle and hug so no one can see the guys in the middle sucking each others cocks.
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Are you mentally disabled? Some of the best pitchers ever were black, in every era of baseball.
It seems likely you're another Eric Francke account though so I should probably just ignore you.
Of course there were great black pitchers.
Yes a few of them were the absolute best at their time.
If you want to discount some white guys stats in the nba who played during segregation I can understand that argument. Blacks DOMINATE basketball.
Do blacks dominate pitching in baseball, now or then? Of course not.
Just look up the top pitchers of the past 70 years. Yeah you'll see a good amount of black pitchers on there but that's just it "a good or decent amount" not like nba or football where they just own the vast majority of stats.
And on the subject of Ruth, the man was just a freak. Just like u can't really fake a 600 pound raw bench press you can't fake 450 to 500 foot home runs in the golden era of newspapers where those measurements were all documented by multiple sources.
Yeah bro, if a few handful of Negro League pitchers would have been around he would have only been able to manage weak pop ups to shallow right field ::)
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Rugby players do that thing where they all get together in a circle and hug so no one can see the guys in the middle sucking each others cocks.
What position did you play?
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Rugby is a twinks game. ::)
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Rugby is a twinks game. ::)
are you watching the 6 nations jeff simon
ireland look decent
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There is no NFL vs. Rugby "argument"
If these rugby players were so incredibly gifted they would be over in the states making massive amounts of cash through contracts and endorsements.
But they can't because they simply don't have the talent to last on the NFL level. Period.
;D
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There is no NFL vs. Rugby "argument"
If these rugby players were so incredibly gifted they would be over in the states making massive amounts of cash through contracts and endorsements.
But they can't because they simply don't have the talent to last on the NFL level. Period.
If a Rugby player tries his luck at the NFL and fails, he'll be home unscathed in comparison.
An NFL player tries his luck at a top end Rugby game would psychologically give up after a few hits body to body.
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You get hit harder in football, no doubt about it, but you don't get as much as you do in rugby. I too played both, and rugby is without a doubt a more physically demanding game.
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Did he play against any Hebrew opponents?
Babe Ruth never had to do this so I think he is overrated.
tired of hearing this, how many good hebrew pitchers are there now???????? and down through the years not counting dominicans who were always allowed to play?????? jim mudcat grant, bob gibson, vida blue,jr richards, bob veale , dwight gooden , david price, sandy koufax..... errrr aahhhhh that's about it.
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giant helmets ;D
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