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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: _aj_ on March 14, 2014, 03:19:23 AM
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Leaving Team Natty behind.
My glute kinda hurts.
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Welcome to the dark side, you're life is forever changed, make great gains, stay healthy and the world is yours
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Congrats!
You will never go back, so stock up. ;D
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So, some questions...
Today was two full days since injection. My workout today seemed about the same, but I feel quite a bit more sore. Psychosomatic?
Also, my appetite seems to be increasing. That sound about right?
Haven't seen an increase in erections yet (hoping for this one), so still keeping my fingers crossed.
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What's the point? Should have stayed natty IMO.....
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What's the point? Should have stayed natty IMO.....
So he can look like you?
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What's the point? Should have stayed natty IMO.....
we are on the "steroid info and hardcore" section.
not the "throw my opinion out when no one asked for it" section.
hth
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What's the point? Should have stayed natty IMO.....
Haha! Where were you three days ago? ;)
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Haha! Where were you three days ago? ;)
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Was a legit question, what is the point? I'm curious. Enlighten me to what I'm missing out on.
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Was a legit question, what is the point? I'm curious. Enlighten me to what I'm missing out on.
Muscles. Possible Hair loss. Rocket cock. Slight feeling of well being on test.
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Wow.....post progress pics and keep us updated on all sides.
Sometimes I think of leaving Team Natty behind but it's been pretty damn good to me so far.
Going to another team is quite a risk for me to take anyways. Which is why I'm so damn scared.
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Wow.....post progress pics and keep us updated on all sides.
Sometimes I think of leaving Team Natty behind but it's been pretty damn good to me so far.
Going to another team is quite a risk for me to take anyways. Which is why I'm so damn scared.
I wouldn't mess w anabolics, just not worth it for s girl. Its your life and your body, obviously.
Fat burners are cool for girls. Just too risky I think. Feminine hair loss and voice deepening are a no go. And I don't trust anavar sources enough to say go for that.
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I wouldn't mess w anabolics, just not worth it for s girl. Its your life and your body, obviously.
Fat burners are cool for girls. Just too risky I think. Feminine hair loss and voice deepening are a no go. And I don't trust anavar sources enough to say go for that.
Yes.....you're probably right. Although every once in a while I'm tempted........ :-\
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Wow.....post progress pics and keep us updated on all sides.
Sometimes I think of leaving Team Natty behind but it's been pretty damn good to me so far.
Going to another team is quite a risk for me to take anyways. Which is why I'm so damn scared.
Well, so far the only thing to report is that at +5 days, my fading PIP in my glute stared hurting again after heavy glute bridges. Have to pin the other glute tomorrow. Will find out how much left-hand dexterity I have.
I am mitigating a lot of the risk with a single compound and low dose. I am old enough that I will likely qualify for TRT in 5 years anyway. Just getting a head start.
So far, a little extra pump in the gym is all I've noticed. Oh, and a slight increase in appetite. Certainly nothing dramatic.
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What brand are you running? Do you already have your ancillaries on hand just in case?
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Well, so far the only thing to report is that at +5 days, my fading PIP in my glute stared hurting again after heavy glute bridges. Have to pin the other glute tomorrow. Will find out how much left-hand dexterity I have.
I am mitigating a lot of the risk with a single compound and low dose. I am old enough that I will likely qualify for TRT in 5 years anyway. Just getting a head start.
So far, a little extra pump in the gym is all I've noticed. Oh, and a slight increase in appetite. Certainly nothing dramatic.
Be patient. If the gear is real it will work. It does take alot of patience. If you are not a patient person like me use a Oral steroid to jumpstart. sounds odd but I have had the best luck with designer oral steroids like superdrol,Halodrol-50 or M1T. Those 3 orals help jumpstart a cycle nicely and you feel any one of those 3 oral steroids within 48 hours at least for me. I felt Halodrol-50 the first day. Halodrol-50 will be impossible to find so superdrol or M1T are still made by UGL labs so maybe try one of those or just old fashion Dianabol. they will get you huge within 3 weeks, by then your injectables will have kicked in and then drop the orals and start a little adex maybe .5mg once a week.
What brand are you using? if you don"t want to say it on the board. Pm me.
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Be patient. If the gear is real it will work. It does take alot of patience. If you are not a patient person like me use a Oral steroid to jumpstart. sounds odd but I have had the best luck with designer oral steroids like superdrol,Halodrol-50 or M1T. Those 3 orals help jumpstart a cycle nicely and you feel any one of those 3 oral steroids within 48 hours at least for me. I felt Halodrol-50 the first day. Halodrol-50 will be impossible to find so superdrol or M1T are still made by UGL labs so maybe try one of those or just old fashion Dianabol. they will get you huge within 3 weeks, by then your injectables will have kicked in and then drop the orals and start a little adex maybe .5mg once a week.
What brand are you using? if you don"t want to say it on the board. Pm me.
hdrol is still on amazon bro.
hdrol and low dose test is my go to cycle.
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hdrol is still on amazon bro.
hdrol and low dose test is my go to cycle.
How much hdrol do you use? How much would you rec as an effective dose for a newb?
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How much hdrol do you use? How much would you rec as an effective dose for a newb?
75mg for 6 weeks is standard.
I have gone up to 100 and there wasnt a difference, just more sides, hair shedding.
I would say its great stand alone too, w out test.
hdrol and superdrol are great drugs. the only good ones to come from the OTC steroid era.
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75mg for 6 weeks is standard.
I have gone up to 100 and there wasnt a difference, just more sides, hair shedding.
I would say its great stand alone too, w out test.
hdrol and superdrol are great drugs. the only good ones to come from the OTC steroid era.
bro im looking for hdrol on amazon and its not showing up. Also bbing.com said its discontinued.
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bro im looking for hdrol on amazon and its not showing up. Also bbing.com said its discontinued.
oh, shit youre right. Funny I just found some like two days ago when I posted a picture of the bottle somewhere on the board.
anyways.
its all over ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-DROL-BY-Competitive-Edge-Labs-60-Capsules-2-PACK-COMBO-/251434517150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8aaa429e
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250mg/week of Geneza test e (250mg/ml) from Not Average Product Source.
I have Nolva and arimidex on hand.
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oh, shit youre right. Funny I just found some like two days ago when I posted a picture of the bottle somewhere on the board.
anyways.
its all over ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-DROL-BY-Competitive-Edge-Labs-60-Capsules-2-PACK-COMBO-/251434517150?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8aaa429e
cool thanks
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250mg/week of Geneza test e (250mg/ml) from Not Average Product Source.
I have Nolva and arimidex on hand.
My friend has the same brand sitting in his drawer just waiting for when hes ready.
Looking forward to your progress.
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Update: in my gym right now doing shoulders and traps. DEFINITELY notice something different today (+6 days). I could get used to this...
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My friend has the same brand sitting in his drawer just waiting for when hes ready.
Looking forward to your progress.
You train for strength right?
I recommend the "B.E.A.S.T. Supa-Halo". Yeah I know, fucking retarded name.
30mg halodrol, 30mg m1-4add (dianabol and dihydroboldenone precursor). Very good for strength. 3 a day, run two bottles back to back and you'd get great results.
Just on 2-a-day at the moment with some test, my blood pressure is nice and high just around where I get a small headache sometimes. I find it takes a week, then you hit two weeks of decent PBs. Nice increase in muscle... but if you want that just take test.
I take orals "for the sides", so to speak
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Update: in my gym right now doing shoulders and traps. DEFINITELY notice something different today (+6 days). I could get used to this...
Hahaaaa there we go!!! It only gets better from here, my man
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Hahaaaa there we go!!! It only gets better from here, my man
I hope so. I lightened up on my weights because I tweaked my shoulder on Sunday. So I went lighter and with a lot more reps and TUT. From the first set, the pump was noticeably different. Also, I wasn't as fatigued after the workout, but I felt more worked out, if that makes any sense.
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hdrol is still on amazon bro.
hdrol and low dose test is my go to cycle.
not the Halodrol-50 I used. H-drol is diffrent. The halodrol-50 I got was the original first batch ever by gaspari Nutrition. It had the Tbol precursor,DMT(desoxy Metyhl-Testosterone) and some sort of weird masking agent. H-drol I believe is just the Tbol clone.H-drol does not have the DMT or masking agent in it. Still a good Oral steroid though. Not nearly as powerful as the original Halodrol-50 formula kneller formulated for gaspari. The real Halodrol-50 formula was only sold for maybe a month and then it got switched to just the Tbol clone and I believe H-drol are only 25mg caps or tabs. nothing I have used has come close to that Original halodrol-50 I got in 2005.That first batch was insanely strong I was felt it the first day and it just got better, like superdrol on crack.
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You train for strength right?
I recommend the "B.E.A.S.T. Supa-Halo". Yeah I know, fucking retarded name.
30mg halodrol, 30mg m1-4add (dianabol and dihydroboldenone precursor). Very good for strength. 3 a day, run two bottles back to back and you'd get great results.
Just on 2-a-day at the moment with some test, my blood pressure is nice and high just around where I get a small headache sometimes. I find it takes a week, then you hit two weeks of decent PBs. Nice increase in muscle... but if you want that just take test.
I take orals "for the sides", so to speak
How the hell are they getting away with slipping Methyl-1-4AD in their?Isn't M14AD on the controlled substance list as a schedule 3? If you can get a product like this it would be great for strength. M,14Ad is underestimated stuff. It would kind of be like taking Turinabol and a hybrib dianabol in the same tab or capsule. I have used almost every Oral steroid and i have never had anything as strong as that Original gaspari halodrol-50. M1T was close and superdrol was somewhat close.
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Pin #2 this morning. Strangely more nervous this morning than last. PIP in my "virgin" glute from last week is just now fading. Getting more used to the mechanics.
Halo: I pinned my left glute with my left hand and it wasn't that difficult.
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Pin #2 this morning. Strangely more nervous this morning than last. PIP in my "virgin" glute from last week is just now fading. Getting more used to the mechanics.
Halo: I pinned my left glute with my left hand and it wasn't that difficult.
that's good for your first pin. I still am not great hitting my left side. I rather inject into my shoulder then glute when it comes to the left side.
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Hahaaaa there we go!!! It only gets better from here, my man
Incredible pump doing chest and tris today.
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Incredible pump doing chest and tris today.
Good to hear!
It usually takes about 2 weeks for me to really feel the hormones working.
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Good to hear!
It usually takes about 2 weeks for me to really feel the hormones working.
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This makes me very happy since I can expect bigger and better things.
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Update: in my gym right now doing shoulders and traps. DEFINITELY notice something different today (+6 days). I could get used to this...
Yes you can. And you'll never turn back, especially if you're on HRT like I am. Never going off. :D
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This makes me very happy since I can expect bigger and better things.
Yes, expect the effects to keep increasing for another 2 weeks or so and then hormone levels will have stabilized. And then you've got plenty of time to make the most of your extra "help"
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I doubt you will need the nolva or adex at 250 mg of testo per week. i would have recommended a jumpstart like whitewidow said of an oral like dbol. You will never get gains as good as this again so get the most out of it. I would even work up to 500 mg if you really wanted to get some serious results out of fresh receptors.
Pinning gets so much easier the more you do it. I dont even feel it now in the glutes because of all the shots ive done. Make sure to aspirate the syringe though, seen a lot of guys who dont even know what that is :o Oil in the bloodstream is no good and you wasted that whole dose.
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I doubt you will need the nolva or adex at 250 mg of testo per week. i would have recommended a jumpstart like whitewidow said of an oral like dbol. You will never get gains as good as this again so get the most out of it. I would even work up to 500 mg if you really wanted to get some serious results out of fresh receptors.
Pinning gets so much easier the more you do it. I dont even feel it now in the glutes because of all the shots ive done. Make sure to aspirate the syringe though, seen a lot of guys who dont even know what that is :o Oil in the bloodstream is no good and you wasted that whole dose.
It is quite the feat to aspirate a syringe in your glute with one hand, especially your off-hand. The suction wants to keep that plunger in-place and trying to push up with your thumbnail seemed pointless.
I think I managed to do it with my right hand, didn't bother with my left. Just buried the 1.5" pin all the way in my glute and shoved.
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Until today, I've never had a shoulder pump that leaves my arms immobile. Interdasting.
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Is your dick on hard 24/7 yet?
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Is your dick on hard 24/7 yet?
Fucking getting there. I can summon an erection in seconds that I could pound nails with.
Testosterone:what's not to like?
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Fucking getting there. I can summon an erection in seconds that I could pound nails with.
Testosterone:what's not to like?
(http://natural-hairregrowth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Receding-Hairline-Treatment-Picture.jpg)
comes to mind.
I think I would shave it or cut it very short if mine was that bad.
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Welcome to the dark better side, you're life is forever changed, make great gains, stay healthy and the world is yours
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Well, I can honestly say that I have never had a 3/4" pump on my arms before...
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soon 19"
It was pretty awesome to see them close to the magical 18"
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How the hell are they getting away with slipping Methyl-1-4AD in their?Isn't M14AD on the controlled substance list as a schedule 3? If you can get a product like this it would be great for strength. M,14Ad is underestimated stuff. It would kind of be like taking Turinabol and a hybrib dianabol in the same tab or capsule. I have used almost every Oral steroid and i have never had anything as strong as that Original gaspari halodrol-50. M1T was close and superdrol was somewhat close.
I think it's actually just hdrol and superdrol , not m14ad
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Fucking getting there. I can summon an erection in seconds that I could pound nails with.
Testosterone:what's not to like?
I ravaged the wife last night with my iron pipe. I think she's on to me. And I am pretty sure she's down with it. :D
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I think it's actually just hdrol and superdrol , not m14ad
No, it's M1,4ADD / Methyl-1,4 androstenediol
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alot of guys are too quick to dismiss some of the prohormones just because of what they were... "otc"
some great drugs were made legally during that era.
hdrol is a staple drug of mine, I love the shit.
superdrol is STRONGER than dbol, and drier. It just doesnt have the mental attributes dbol has. Superdrol makes you feel like shit, but if you keep it together mentally its a better drug
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NEVER ADMIT
you willl ssoooooooo regret that at one point
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you gotta keep in mind, steronz are drugs to these people.
like drugs drugs.
meth crack etc. its all the same to non bbers.
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If I ever do admit, it will be to doing my own TRT.
But I do have trouble with keeping secrets from my wife.
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you gotta keep in mind, steronz are drugs to these people.
like drugs drugs.
meth crack etc. its all the same to non bbers.
Exactly right. I am the ultimate piece of shit degenerate druggie to them people because I abuse roids AND narcotics/benzos/coke/speed/alcohol. What do you expect from me? all my heroes are pro bbrs and pro wrestlers.
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do you also abuse viagra?
'baby mama' current fucker could be on viagra, just imagine her screams ;D
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do you also abuse viagra?
Can't use it. It makes my nose get super stuffy and i can barely fucking breathe. Don't really need it. Proviron is way better than viagra. Test and proviron creates pure steel in the pants. Try it Halo, way better than viagra my friend.
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proviron probably enhances hairloss
Possibly but you can use it only when you need it and it works well. You dont need it everyday unless you are fucking every single day. 50-100 mg and you will have steel in the crotch.
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you mean it works fast and has a short halflife?
i got some coming in the mail next week
interested in trying
Yes, my friend. Use at least 50 - 100 mg about 2 hours before you need to lay the Halo pipe to a 18 years negroida of your choosing. She will be impressed by your gorilla/negro-like virility and tell all her friends. You can thank me later. I remember gh15 talking about how great proviron was for dick hardness too if i recall.
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bump ;D
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Not much to report. Coming up on 3 weeks. Excellent pumps in the gym. Cock gets hard when the wind blows. Sleeping like a rock. Appetite is up a bit. Haven't noticed any major changes externally. A little stronger. Can do more sets in the gym.
Downside was 5 days of PIP in my right glute on first pin, the left was better, only 3 days of PIP. The second hit on my right glute was only 1 day of PIP. Trending in the right direction.
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Not much to report. Coming up on 3 weeks. Excellent pumps in the gym. Cock gets hard when the wind blows. Sleeping like a rock. Appetite is up a bit. Haven't noticed any major changes externally. A little stronger. Can do more sets in the gym.
Downside was 5 days of PIP in my right glute on first pin, the left was better, only 3 days of PIP. The second hit on my right glute was only 1 day of PIP. Trending in the right direction.
So you're saying creatine has more of an affect? :D
Heard 2 months in is when you start noticing the biggest difference with long esters. Dunno if thats true tho.
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So you're saying creatine has more of an affect? :D
Heard 2 months in is when you start noticing the biggest difference with long esters. Dunno if thats true tho.
I had heard that weeks 4-8 were "magic". We shall see.
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I had heard that weeks 4-8 were "magic". We shall see.
just keep in mind youre a low dose guy, and pinning long esthers.
very soon, very soon.
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just keep in mind youre a low dose guy, and pinning long esthers.
very soon, very soon.
As I have not moved the needle natty in ten years, I am nothing but patience.
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Def something else going on. It's been many years since I was able to curl 135 with that kind of ease.
And the pump doing forearm work is agonizing.
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Stop being a fucking pussy bro and jump to 500 asap, you are not taking into account the shutdown you are getting from your natural test levels on 250 so you are only marginally increasing your test, my doc told me this.
In 500 not fucking sides, nothing bad at all, just all good stuff.
Quit wasting your first cycle and jump to 500 pronto, I am going up 750 soon.
Peace
Please just shut up about this. I have chosen my path, you have chosen yours. You have made your opinion known, repeatedly.
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Imagine what would have happened if you started on 500 +
You might be susceptible to sides though, I am not.
I guess its individual response.
Up to AJ, but just think he is wasting a great opportunity he won't get again, especially at his age he probably had low test to begin with.
you wouldnt really know yet man
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you wouldnt really know yet man
No shit. Dude injected his first dose like 2 weeks ago. Lulz.
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No shit. Dude injected his first dose like 2 weeks ago. Lulz.
that's too soon for gains tho right? What ester of test is he using.
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that's too soon for gains tho right? What ester of test is he using.
hell start gaining water maybe. Hes running on placebo. Takes several weeks to REALLY notice differences running enan/cyp
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that's too soon for gains tho right? What ester of test is he using.
enth.
maybe a slight gain. Ive never ran his dose. might be water, might be eating heavy. might in reality be dropping 200mg of abombs a day and just say hes running test
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enth.
maybe a slight gain. Ive never ran his dose. might be water, might be eating heavy. might in reality be dropping 200mg of abombs a day and just say hes running test
if hes running what he says hes running its all water, strength, and placebo effect RIGHT NOW. Hell start making gains but probably nothing thats actually muscle this fast.
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if hes running what he says hes running its all water, strength, and placebo effect RIGHT NOW. Hell start making gains but probably nothing thats actually muscle this fast.
yep.
for muscle as quick as two weeks, suspension maybe prop or orals are the way.
superdrol will pack it on in two weeks
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yep.
for muscle as quick as two weeks, suspension maybe prop or orals are the way.
superdrol will pack it on in two weeks
No way... superdrol gains are all glycogen/water, especially anything that would be "packed on" in two weeks.
Lean, contractile muscle tissue takes a loooong time to build, even on all the juice in the world.
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Week 4. Have gained about 8 pounds, some of it decent, but much of it unacceptable bloof. Started cutting carbs a week ago. Am pretty fucking hungry most of the time.
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Week 4. Have gained about 8 pounds, some of it decent, but most of it unacceptable bloof. Started cutting carbs a week ago. Am pretty fucking hungry most of the time.
Increased hunger is good, that's a sign that you're growing.
8 pounds in 4 weeks is too much though, that's definitely bloof. Reducing carbs, sodium, and dairy/gluten will help. However, the problem is most likely estrogen related.
To this end, you may need to fiddle with your dose. Estrogen conversion does not occur on a linear basis... someone might be in the sweet spot at 100-200mg, but 250 will cause high estrogen levels for them. Also, upping the injection frequency could help. Shooting your dose in one weekly shot will cause a large spike in test levels, leading to higher estrogen conversions. You may want to try using an insulin needle to shoot .25ml eod, for example.
All this is strictly conjecture without bloodwork, so you may wish to schedule that in another 1-2 weeks, when your test levels have stabilized, so that you can KNOW what the issue is.
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Increased hunger is good, that's a sign that you're growing.
8 pounds in 4 weeks is too much though, that's definitely bloof. Reducing carbs, sodium, and dairy/gluten will help. However, the problem is most likely estrogen related.
To this end, you may need to fiddle with your dose. Estrogen conversion does not occur on a linear basis... someone might be in the sweet spot at 100-200mg, but 250 will cause high estrogen levels for them. Also, upping the injection frequency could help. Shooting your dose in one weekly shot will cause a large spike in test levels, leading to higher estrogen conversions. You may want to try using an insulin needle to shoot .25ml eod, for example.
All this is strictly conjecture without bloodwork, so you may wish to schedule that in another 1-2 weeks, when your test levels have stabilized, so that you can KNOW what the issue is.
I already planned in doing base hormone bloodwork at week 6, so we're on the same page. I am concerned about E2, so I started taking .25mg adex EOD. Will dial that in when I get my E2 in a couple of weeks.
Don't really eat dairy (rarely some cheese), and the only salt is what I put into stuff, which is minimal.
I really would like to avoid more frequent injections, as I am still a bit disbelieving that I am doing it EW. If T spikes are an issue, then twice a week might be a thing, but the fucking glute PIP...
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Im guessing that the bloat will subside on its own. Homeostasis and all that.
Id hope so. Doubt you want to be on arimidex long term.
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Id hope so. Doubt you want to be on arimidex long term.
You have any experiences with adex?
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You have any experiences with adex?
You know i dont. its just my guru says its not good for cholesterol. Probably not bad short term but if youre using upper trt dosages i imagine you care for your health more than others here so you dont want to be using adex long term.
My guru is William Llewellyn.
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My wife, who closely studies my musculature, noticed my "definition" and some additional size last night while we were in flagrante delicto. I shrugged it off to "lifting heavy, eating heavy."
She sure does like it.
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do you have to keep it hush from the wifey Aj?
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do you have to keep it hush from the wifey Aj?
For now, this is the course of prudence. The problem is that she's in the fitness biz and she has an eye for these things. That said, she doesn't know jack shit about hormones.
We already have all of our kids and I was trending down the TRT path anyway. Just got a head-start on it.
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he's a wise man for doing so
never know what can happen with a woman
ask wes if you dont believe me
I love having a woman who I can trust, she will even pin my lats.
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haha feel sorry you will never trust a woman again. There are some gems out there.
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hdrol is still on amazon bro.
hdrol and low dose test is my go to cycle.
Can you please me a link for the amazon product. Please
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having an open heart is also in the scriptures.
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well I hope you find a nice biblical woman who will do your injections.
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having a woman who is into bodybuilding and all that
does that mean hitting some poses is considered foreplay?
does she get aroused from that ???
serious question ;D
She isn't into bb-ing, but rather "fitness" (oh, brother). But she does have her hands all over me while telling me what she likes and why. So yes, the ideal muscular male form occupies real estate in her mind.
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but does she wet her vagina hole if you stand in front of the bed hitting the mandatory poses ???
I doubt it. She does enjoy the occasional "accidental" flex. She seems particularly interested in triceps, shoulders and lats.
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I love having a woman who I can trust, she will even pin my lats.
Why can't you pin your lats yourself? Too big/inflexible?
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Why can't you pin your lats yourself? Too big/inflexible?
Shit, I am not even sure that I could do this and I could hide behind one of Ro's arms.
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Shit, I am not even sure that I could do this and I could hide behind one of Ro's arms.
Put your left hand behind your head, with your elbow pointing up, and use the right hand to pin in the fleshy part above your serratus muscle. Easy-peasy