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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #550 on: April 16, 2013, 09:01:52 AM »
I wasn't saying YOU ARE Welcome, I was saying I'm Welcome.  I was thanking myself in the third person. The thanks was to me from me, hence the use of the word 'YOUR'.  Your is the possessive form of you, referring to something that a person has, something that belongs to the person in question.  And because the third person and I are the same person, it doesn't make sense to say 'you are' as if their was indeed a real third person.

That may be the most asinine thing I've ever read.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #551 on: April 16, 2013, 09:01:55 AM »
I wouldn't say anything about anyone's grammar if they didn't start up on the grammar of my friend. Simple as that.
I simply wanted to know what he said.  I actually found it illegible in it's non punctuated form.  I understood the first part, he was glad I didn't live there, but the rest of the sentence doesn't make sense.  In it's current form, it still doesn't make sense to me.  If you take away the first statement in the sentence, the rest of it "and that more like you don`t live here either" still doesn't make sense to me.  The use of the word 'MORE' creates ambiguity and distorts what he means, it would have made more sense had he used the word 'OTHERS'.
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #552 on: April 16, 2013, 09:02:44 AM »
I wasn't saying YOU ARE Welcome, I was saying I'm Welcome.  I was thanking myself in the third person. The thanks was to me from me, hence the use of the word 'YOUR'.  Your is the possessive form of you, referring to something that a person has, something that belongs to the person in question.  And because the third person and I are the same person, it doesn't make sense to say 'you are' as if their was indeed a real third person.
That is the most convoluted bullshit I have ever heard.  

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #553 on: April 16, 2013, 09:03:59 AM »
I wasn't saying YOU ARE Welcome, I was saying I'm Welcome.  I was thanking myself in the third person. The thanks was to me from me, hence the use of the word 'YOUR'.  Your is the possessive form of you, referring to something that a person has, something that belongs to the person in question.  And because the third person and I are the same person, it doesn't make sense to say 'you are' as if their was indeed a real third person.
It's called a serial comma or the Oxford comma.  Commas are used to separate the elements in a series (three or more things).  There are situations in which, if you don't use this comma (especially when the list is complex or lengthy), these last two items in the list will try to glom together.   Using a comma between all the items in a series, including the last two, avoids this problem.

Your welcome.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #554 on: April 16, 2013, 09:05:37 AM »

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #555 on: April 16, 2013, 09:07:08 AM »
"Your Welcome" implied that the welcome belongs to me. Because he never thanked me, I wasn't actually extending the welcome to him but to me. I was thanking myself in a sarcastic manner.  Because I was referring to me, and not actually extending the welcome to him, I used 'your' to symbolise it was a possessive pronoun.  I was speaking as if I was someone else, that's why I used the word "your".  In the same way as if I was speaking to myself and was telling myself off for wearing out your welcome in this thread.
Even a retard wouldn't believe this nonsense. 

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #556 on: April 16, 2013, 09:10:29 AM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/324191494577729536
@AP BREAKING: Person briefed on probe: Boston explosives made of pressure cookers with metal, ball bearings -MM

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #557 on: April 16, 2013, 09:12:04 AM »
Something like this:


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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #558 on: April 16, 2013, 09:12:15 AM »
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #559 on: April 16, 2013, 09:14:48 AM »
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No.  They have stopped many actually.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #560 on: April 16, 2013, 09:16:19 AM »

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #561 on: April 16, 2013, 09:16:41 AM »
I`m glad you don`t live here and that more like you don`t live here either.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #563 on: April 16, 2013, 09:20:01 AM »
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Time to start cutting those useless fucks.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #564 on: April 16, 2013, 09:22:19 AM »
I think this is a picture of the little boy that was killed, 8 year old Martin Richard.



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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #565 on: April 16, 2013, 09:24:03 AM »
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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #566 on: April 16, 2013, 09:24:23 AM »
No.  They have stopped many actually.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
Terrorist Plots, Hatched by the F.B.I.

THE United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts.

But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.

When an Oregon college student, Mohamed Osman Mohamud, thought of using a car bomb to attack a festive Christmas-tree lighting ceremony in Portland, the F.B.I. provided a van loaded with six 55-gallon drums of “inert material,” harmless blasting caps, a detonator cord and a gallon of diesel fuel to make the van smell flammable. An undercover F.B.I. agent even did the driving, with Mr. Mohamud in the passenger seat. To trigger the bomb the student punched a number into a cellphone and got no boom, only a bust.

This is legal, but is it legitimate? Without the F.B.I., would the culprits commit violence on their own? Is cultivating potential terrorists the best use of the manpower designed to find the real ones? Judging by their official answers, the F.B.I. and the Justice Department are sure of themselves — too sure, perhaps.

Carefully orchestrated sting operations usually hold up in court. Defendants invariably claim entrapment and almost always lose, because the law requires that they show no predisposition to commit the crime, even when induced by government agents. To underscore their predisposition, many suspects are “warned about the seriousness of their plots and given opportunities to back out,” said Dean Boyd, a Justice Department spokesman. But not always, recorded conversations show. Sometimes they are coaxed to continue.

Undercover operations, long practiced by the F.B.I., have become a mainstay of counterterrorism, and they have changed in response to the post-9/11 focus on prevention. “Prior to 9/11 it would be very unusual for the F.B.I. to present a crime opportunity that wasn’t in the scope of the activities that a person was already involved in,” said Mike German of the American Civil Liberties Union, a lawyer and former F.B.I. agent who infiltrated white supremacist groups. An alleged drug dealer would be set up to sell drugs to an undercover agent, an arms trafficker to sell weapons. That still happens routinely, but less so in counterterrorism, and for good reason.

“There isn’t a business of terrorism in the United States, thank God,” a former federal prosecutor, David Raskin, explained.

“You’re not going to be able to go to a street corner and find somebody who’s already blown something up,” he said. Therefore, the usual goal is not “to find somebody who’s already engaged in terrorism but find somebody who would jump at the opportunity if a real terrorist showed up in town.”

And that’s the gray area. Who is susceptible? Anyone who plays along with the agents, apparently. Once the snare is set, law enforcement sees no choice. “Ignoring such threats is not an option,” Mr. Boyd argued, “given the possibility that the suspect could act alone at any time or find someone else willing to help him.”

Typically, the stings initially target suspects for pure speech — comments to an informer outside a mosque, angry postings on Web sites, e-mails with radicals overseas — then woo them into relationships with informers, who are often convicted felons working in exchange for leniency, or with F.B.I. agents posing as members of Al Qaeda or other groups.

Some targets have previous involvement in more than idle talk: for example, Waad Ramadan Alwan, an Iraqi in Kentucky, whose fingerprints were found on an unexploded roadside bomb near Bayji, Iraq, and Raja Khan of Chicago, who had sent funds to an Al Qaeda leader in Pakistan.

But others seem ambivalent, incompetent and adrift, like hapless wannabes looking for a cause that the informer or undercover agent skillfully helps them find. Take the Stinger missile defendant James Cromitie, a low-level drug dealer with a criminal record that included no violence or hate crime, despite his rants against Jews. “He was searching for answers within his Islamic faith,” said his lawyer, Clinton W. Calhoun III, who has appealed his conviction. “And this informant, I think, twisted that search in a really pretty awful way, sort of misdirected Cromitie in his search and turned him towards violence.”

THE informer, Shahed Hussain, had been charged with fraud, but avoided prison and deportation by working undercover in another investigation. He was being paid by the F.B.I. to pose as a wealthy Pakistani with ties to Jaish-e-Mohammed, a terrorist group that Mr. Cromitie apparently had never heard of before they met by chance in the parking lot of a mosque.

“Brother, did you ever try to do anything for the cause of Islam?” Mr. Hussain asked at one point.

“O.K., brother,” Mr. Cromitie replied warily, “where you going with this, brother?”

Two days later, the informer told him, “Allah has more work for you to do,” and added, “Revelation is going to come in your dreams that you have to do this thing, O.K.?” About 15 minutes later, Mr. Hussain proposed the idea of using missiles, saying he could get them in a container from China. Mr. Cromitie laughed.

Reading hundreds of pages of transcripts of the recorded conversations is like looking at the inkblots of a Rorschach test. Patterns of willingness and hesitation overlap and merge. “I don’t want anyone to get hurt,” Mr. Cromitie said, and then explained that he meant women and children. “I don’t care if it’s a whole synagogue of men.” It took 11 months of meandering discussion and a promise of $250,000 to lead him, with three co-conspirators he recruited, to plant fake bombs at two Riverdale synagogues.

“Only the government could have made a ‘terrorist’ out of Mr. Cromitie, whose buffoonery is positively Shakespearean in its scope,” said Judge Colleen McMahon, sentencing him to 25 years. She branded it a “fantasy terror operation” but called his attempt “beyond despicable” and rejected his claim of entrapment.

The judge’s statement was unusual, but Mr. Cromitie’s characteristics were not. His incompetence and ambivalence could be found among other aspiring terrorists whose grandiose plans were nurtured by law enforcement. They included men who wanted to attack fuel lines at Kennedy International Airport; destroy the Sears Tower (now Willis Tower) in Chicago; carry out a suicide bombing near Tampa Bay, Fla., and bomb subways in New York and Washington. Of the 22 most frightening plans for attacks since 9/11 on American soil, 14 were developed in sting operations.

Another New York City subway plot, which recently went to trial, needed no help from government. Nor did a bombing attempt in Times Square, the abortive underwear bombing in a jetliner over Detroit, a planned attack on Fort Dix, N.J., and several smaller efforts. Some threats are real, others less so. In terrorism, it’s not easy to tell the difference.

David K. Shipler is the author of “Rights at Risk: The Limits of Liberty in Modern America.”

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #567 on: April 16, 2013, 09:24:33 AM »
yes,its him .. horrible ..

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #568 on: April 16, 2013, 09:31:59 AM »

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #569 on: April 16, 2013, 09:33:21 AM »
Which country is the US going to blame in order to invade and steal oil?

On this one, imop they are going to have the suspect caught because of some a regular Joes Iphone...This event will be used to help cement BIG BROTHER camera's everywhere and to help tell the folks spying on your neighbors is actually good for society...They will say its domestic.

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #570 on: April 16, 2013, 09:34:15 AM »
On this one, imop they are going to have the suspect caught because of some a regular Joes Iphone...This event will be used to help cement BIG BROTHER camera's everywhere and to help tell the folks spying on your neighbors is actually good for society...They will say its domestic.

No question it will be exploited to further erode our civil liberties.  ::)

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #571 on: April 16, 2013, 09:36:01 AM »
A 78-Year-Old Marathoner Who Was Knocked Down By The Explosions Got Up And Finished The Race
 


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Many of the videos circulating of yesterday's explosions at the Boston Marathon show a lone runner falling to the ground immediately after the first blast.
 
The runner was Bill Iffrig, a 78-year-old from Washington state who has run the Boston Marathon three times.
 
Iffrig spoke with Steve Levy of ESPN last night. He said that he was about 15 feet from the finish line when the shockwave of the first blast turned his legs to "noodles." He was dazed, but never went on unconscious. When he regained his alertness he decided to finish the race with the help of a race assistant
 
"The shockwaves must of hit my body and my legs started going to noodles and I knew I was going down. So I laid on the blacktop. I wasn't unconscious at any time. I woke up, became alert, a little later and looked everything over and it looked okay.
 
"So I made an attempt to get up and as I did that one of the assistants on the finish line saw what I was doing and came over and gave me a hand. And so he walked me on over to the finish line so I could finish. And then he said he'd take me over and give me a wheelchair ride out of here but at that time I said, 'I don't think I need it, the hotel's about six blocks away so I can get up there."
 
He said this year's race was going much better than last year's until the final few feet:
 
"Well I came last year and the weather was so bad, it was so hot, that I had a really bad day. But this year I had a good day. I had a good. But this incident did kind of spoil it."
 
Here's video of the ESPN interview:
 


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/runner-iffrig-finishes-boston-marathon-explosions-2013-4#ixzz2QdOf6ABm




When they blocked off the area after the bombs went off, many runners were reportedly pissed off that they couldn't finish the race. One cop told a group of runners " are you fukcing kidding me people, there's bombs going off and people are dying here"...

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #572 on: April 16, 2013, 09:36:33 AM »
LOL This will get the morons going.



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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #573 on: April 16, 2013, 09:39:28 AM »
When they blocked off the area after the bombs went off, many runners were reportedly pissed off that they couldn't finish the race. One cop told a group of runners " are you fukcing kidding me people, there's bombs going off and people are dying here"...

The mentality is a lot like climbers on Mt Everest.  Climbers are so obsessed about climbing Everest they have been known to pass right by people in distress.   Runners threw a fit about the New York marathon after hurricane sandy.  

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Re: Explosion at the Boston Marathon Finish Line
« Reply #574 on: April 16, 2013, 09:39:39 AM »
DAMN! TA!  

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