Zimmerman - Self Defense Class or Benching 500 an Up? whats next?

[bigmc]

Na, I'm just a normal human being who has a conscience and doesn't like the thought of sociopaths policing the neighbourhood, murdering people and getting away with it.  I find it hard to believe you are on the fence, surely that level of detachment would be indicative of some serious disconnect with the world you live in.  You would have to be pretty self obsessed to not care about a case such as this, but I suppose this is a body-building board.

im from the uk

as far as i can see there are hundreds of people shot in the usa every day

this has turned into a political animal

and a race issue

its all bullshit fed to you by the media

they make you believe what they want

[Irongrip400]

Not only is he a bully, a pathological liar, sociopath and Murderer, he is an incestuous Molester - Zimmerman molested HIS OWN COUSIN!  It makes me sick that people defend this guy! You would have to have serious issues to back this Horse!  Obviously a strong incestuous thread that runs in the Zimmerman family.

George Zimmerman's cousin accuses him of sexual molestation

George Zimmerman, who is charged in the shooting of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, was accused by his female cousin of sexually molesting her for a decade beginning when she was 6 years old, according to new documents made public on Monday by prosecutors.

The woman told investigators during a taped interview that the last time Zimmerman molested her she was 16 and Zimmerman, a new high school graduate at the time, was temporarily living alone in a house his parents had just purchased in Lake Mary, Florida.

Asked why she waited until March 20 of this year to tell her story to law enforcement, the woman said, "This is the first time in my life that I'm not afraid of him ... he can't get to me."

The woman described Zimmerman molesting her during annual family get-togethers and trips.

The woman said she finally told her parents in 2005 when she was 20. She said her parents called Zimmerman to a meeting at a pizza restaurant in Lake Mary."

Instead of talking about it, all he did was come in the room, come in the restaurant, he sat down on the end of the booth and he said 'I'm sorry' and just got up and walked out ... my parents, their jaws dropped," the woman said.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0716/George-Zimmerman-s-cousin-accuses-him-of-sexual-molestation-video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUs2xr-LJsc - George Zimmerman Molested 6-year-old Cousin (Audio)

Sick dude no doubt, but I was referring to the Arab he was picking on at work.  dude was probably a terrorist with thies to Al-Queda

[bike nut]

No,  He tried to fuck his cousin, bullied his workmates, pretended to be a super-cop and he killed a man in cold blood, lied about it and is trying to get away with it.  Do you fuck your wife bro! or do you prefer your cousin, is that it?, you identify with George because he represents qualities you yourself have and aspire too. 

Killed an attacker in self defense.....so go fuck yourself.

[quadzilla456]

A black dead guy and a Mexican in jail, society wins

What you really wanted to say. Don't be a pussy, just say what's on your mind!

[chaos]

Where's the uproar about the hundreds of other killings that happen daily

[Voice of Doom]

Chances are he will be aquitted.  That makes this case not as relevant to the elite's needs.

[Shockwave]

Where's the uproar about the hundreds of other killings that happen daily

This, lol.

[Radical Plato]

Killed an attacker in self defense.....so go fuck yourself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  An Attacker HA AHAHAHA HA HA An unarmed teenager walking back from the local shops is an attacker HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA Self defense equals stalking Human Prey while armed with the intention of provoking victim so he can murder them.   

You obviously identify with a sick incestuous murderous bully, GO FUCK YOUR COUSIN ZIMMERPIG LOVER!

[tommywishbone]

zimmercreep chased the kid, caught the kid, confronted the kid, the kid said fuck you, zimmerdog killed the kid.

zimmerbean will get 20+ years and I'm glad.

[SLYY]

Yes.  It is an absolutely reasonable assumption that aggression was a motivator in the act of following.  It would be an unreasonable assumption to believe otherwise. 

Please elaborate on this "reasonable assumption" standard.

The only ray of light I can think of for Zimmerman would be if Martin was on non-common private property the entire time, and therefore somehow the perception of importance to pursue him would reasonably override any mindless aggression that he may have succumbed to. 

You're wrong.  This statement displays (again) your ignorance of the law.  I would suggest that you do some legal research so you do not continue to write such rubbish. 

[G_Thang]

zimmercreep chased the kid, caught the kid, confronted the kid, the kid said fuck you, zimmerdog killed the kid.

zimmerbean will get 20+ years and I'm glad.

white boys on getbig don't see it this way.  some of them are trying to call zimmerman " blanco spic", so they can pull the latinos into this bullshit.  my mom's folks are still voting obama.

[bigmc]

lots of people stuck in their "roots" in this thread

[bike nut]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA  An Attacker HA AHAHAHA HA HA An unarmed teenager walking back from the local shops is an attacker HA HA HA HA AHA HA HA Self defense equals stalking Human Prey while armed with the intention of provoking victim so he can murder them.   

You obviously identify with a sick incestuous murderous bully, GO FUCK YOUR COUSIN ZIMMERPIG LOVER!

Oh....I see, so not only do you know exactly what happened that night, but you also know the intent of both parties involved.

You're a fucking idiot....plain and simple.

So like I said before, legally shot and killed an attacker, fully within his rights under the Stand Your Ground laws.

[pulling weight]

He was told to backdown an let the police handle it. he didn't.

[bike nut]

He was told to backdown an let the police handle it. he didn't.

Zimmerman, speaking in his first media interview since the Feb 26 killing of Trayvon Martin was asked to explain his statement to a 911 dispatcher that he was following Martin, Zimmerman said, "I didn't mean that I was actually pursuing him." "I meant that I was going in the same direction as him, to keep an eye on him so that I could tell the police where he was going," he told Fox News host Sean Hannity.

The encounter began when Zimmerman called police to report what he called "a real suspicious guy" walking through his neighborhood. In an affidavit submitted in court, two investigators assigned to the case by a Florida special prosecutor reported that Zimmerman "disregarded the police dispatcher" who instructed him not to follow Martin.

Zimmerman said after he got out of his car he never went further than 100 feet (30 meters) from it. He said he wanted to find out Martin's location to pass along a more accurate address to police.

[240 is Back]

Zimmerman, speaking in his first media interview since the Feb 26 killing of Trayvon Martin was asked to explain his statement to a 911 dispatcher that he was following Martin, Zimmerman said, "I didn't mean that I was actually pursuing him." "I meant that I was going in the same direction as him, to keep an eye on him so that I could tell the police where he was going," he told Fox News host Sean Hannity.

"He's getting away" sure sounds like a pursuit.  The shooting ws 2 blocks from where the 911 call started.

ya look at the 50+ 911 calls that zimmerman made in the last year... he called about potholes, open garages, etc.  Dude was a drama queen.

give him a gun and a sense of entitlement and he feels he's allowed to violate the rights of others = confront and challenge them.

Trayvon was killed a few houses from his GF's house.  ZImmerman lived 8 blocks in the other direction. 

[chaos]

 

[Conker]

He was told to backdown an let the police handle it. he didn't.

That sums it up.

He went against police orders to stay in his car and instead initiated a confrontation that led to him shooting to death an unarmed teenager with no criminal record.

Open and shut case. Second degree murder.

[pulling weight]

Zimmerman, speaking in his first media interview since the Feb 26 killing of Trayvon Martin was asked to explain his statement to a 911 dispatcher that he was following Martin, Zimmerman said, "I didn't mean that I was actually pursuing him." "I meant that I was going in the same direction as him, to keep an eye on him so that I could tell the police where he was going," he told Fox News host Sean Hannity.

The encounter began when Zimmerman called police to report what he called "a real suspicious guy" walking through his neighborhood. In an affidavit submitted in court, two investigators assigned to the case by a Florida special prosecutor reported that Zimmerman "disregarded the police dispatcher" who instructed him not to follow Martin.

Zimmerman said after he got out of his car he never went further than 100 feet (30 meters) from it. He said he wanted to find out Martin's location to pass along a more accurate address to police.

I heard the transcript.
He ignored 911 request to hang back and said something like,
"I'm going after this guy blah blah" in an agitated tone. At that point it became Zimmerman's fault.
Dumb bastard should have listened and then both would still be alive and he wouldn't be facing charges.

[pulling weight]

That sums it up.

He went against police orders to stay in his car and instead initiated a confrontation that led to him shooting to death an unarmed teenager with no criminal record.

Open and shut case. Second degree murder.

Yep

[SLYY]

That sums it up.

He went against police orders to stay in his car and instead initiated a confrontation that led to him shooting to death an unarmed teenager with no criminal record.

He did?  What police officer gave this order?  Is this relevant to any statutory element? 

[pulling weight]

Also, how do you 'stand your ground' when you are the person that pursued a fleeing man and backed him in to a corner? Stand your ground reminds me of oxymoronic buzz terms like 'spreading democracy'.

[SLYY]

give him a gun and a sense of entitlement and he feels he's allowed to violate the rights of others = confront and challenge them.
 

What law did he violate when following Trayvon?

Trayvon was killed a few houses from his GF's house.  ZImmerman lived 8 blocks in the other direction. 

Relevance to the charges?

FYI, by FL law, Trayvon could have shot zimmerman the moment he caught him and it would have been perfectly legal. 

Still waiting on that FL law...

[SLYY]

Also, how do you 'stand your ground' when you are the person that pursued a fleeing man and backed him in to a corner? Stand your ground reminds me of oxymoronic buzz terms like 'spreading democracy'.

What facts lead you to believe Trayvon was backed into a corner?

[pulling weight]

What facts lead you to believe Trayvon was backed into a corner?

The fact that Trayvon was leaving the scene, and the guy got out of the car when he was advised to wait because police were on the way, guy still insisted on pursuing him (sounded agitated and looking for a fight). By his own admittance followed him, shot him. Kid died.

It's a clear cut case.