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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => History - Stories - and Memories => Craig Titus & Kelly Ryan Discussions => Topic started by: body88 on December 21, 2005, 05:14:22 PM
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This whole Titus thing is going to draw some serious attention to Bodybuilding and it will smear a huge mark on the already fucked up sport
question is will this cause the whole industry to get douched and cleaned up?
could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
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would be good for the sport, I heard craig and kelly are going to pose down to 'We Didn't Start the Fire' by Billy Joel, all that running they will be doing should see the best conditioning on stage we have seen yet.
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Nothing
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There goes bodybuilding's wholesome image.. ::)
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This whole Titus thing is going to draw some serious attention to Bodybuilding and it will smear a huge mark on the already fucked up sport
question is will this cause the whole industry to get douched and cleaned up?
could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
We like bodybuilding beacause it is a freakshow...
Bodybuilding is alive and well, and this will do no harm. Yeah, maybe Dan Solomon's "marketable physique theory" goes out the window... but we still love the sport.
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Richard and Medford could *perhaps* share there expert insights on this, since they know a lot about what happened with the Ray McNeil/Sally McNeil story.
YIP
Zack
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There goes bodybuilding's wholesome image.. ::)
Word, nugga.
It's not like the "sport" is clean as it is.
If the public knew about all the dirty behind the scenes shit going on, they'd flip.
DIV
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would be good for the sport, I heard craig and kelly are going to pose down to 'We Didn't Start the Fire' by Billy Joel, all that running they will be doing should see the best conditioning on stage we have seen yet.
More like:
You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn’t get much higher
Come on baby, light my car on fire
Come on baby, light my car on fire
Try to set the JAG on fire
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What I'm saying is will this just be the catalyst to shed some light on the truly darkside of BB giving The McCain's of the world a reason to totally clean up everything or pressure those who run shit to actually get off their old fat ass's and do something for real?
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This whole Titus thing is going to draw some serious attention to Bodybuilding and it will smear a huge mark on the already fucked up sport
question is will this cause the whole industry to get douched and cleaned up?
could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
It won't do anything because IT'S NOT A SPORT!
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It won't do anything because IT'S NOT A SPORT!
o for christ sake whatever its labeled
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I don't think this will do anything for or to bb'ing.Bb'ing has already been through stuff like this & it didn't change a thing.The only thing I see happening is a lot more news media will jump on the roid issue for a little while & then it will be back to business as usual.Bb'ing has already been through the old muscle beach rape that happened late 50's early 60's & all that did was close it down, & the late 80's early 90's had the Ray McNeil case which got some publicity but didn't change a thing about bb'ing either.If anything just gives the media more fodder for their juice stories about roid rage etc.
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More like:
You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn’t get much higher
Come on baby, light my car on fire
Come on baby, light my car on fire
Try to set the JAG on fire
The Roof is one fire
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Disco Inferno?
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What will this do to the sport .???
....... hopefully all the fools who come to this website hangin' on every word coming out of Craigs and Kellys' mouths will re-think their dumb-ass fascination with bodybuilders. Or they'll start worshiping King Kamali -- untill he robs a bank and gets sent to the big house to be some bad mans boyfriend
get a life !
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Guys its not like the Bodybuilding is exactly mainstream to begin
I mean this isn't going to cause all the "money" to dry up
They will still be giving out 10k checks at pro shows
No money in sport now No money later
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More like:
You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I was to say to you
Girl, we couldn’t get much higher
Come on baby, light my car on fire
Come on baby, light my car on fire
Try to set the JAG on fire
that wasn't funny. "we didn't start the fire" that was funny. You ruined a good joke.
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i wonder if there is any way sean ray can capitlise on this ......?
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It's the gay guys...yup, they are ruining the sport for you guys that like to sit in dark theaters and cheer on the best glutes on a guy wearing a posing suit up the crack of his ass, all the while calling everyone else a homo.
It's not that big of a sport. The math works out for deviants, alleged car burners, and miscreants that populate other sports.
If it was not for the gay guys, you would have the whole auditorium to yourself, and 30% the competitors gone.
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It's going to make it mainstream.........final ly. Bertil tried his best but couldn't make it happen
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It's going to make it mainstream.........final ly. Bertil tried his best but couldn't make it happen
lol
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ok i cant get over how random it is that Titus comes out of the woodwork and murders someone
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ok i cant get over how random it is that Titus comes out of the woodwork and murders someone
Oh come on, if you has to pick one IFBB pro "most likely to murder someone and be stupid enough to leave the body in his own car"...
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kill it :o
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could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
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ESPN and others will likely blame steroids. Craig and Kelly might even use that defense.
Politicians will cry for banning of dangerous substances like steroids and creatine. Lumped together, of course.
Bans will occur, so ad revenue and sponsorships for shows and mags will plummet.
Goodbye smaller shows and MD, FLEX, along with your favorite BSN/Vyotech/Muscletech product.
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www.freecraigtitus.com
Keep everyone honest. Share it.
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Pinnacle's new slogan: "Our stuff is so good, you'll murder your competition!"
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Pinnacle's new slogan: "Our stuff is so good, you'll murder your competition!"
Muscle Techs defense,
new Cell Tech will make you 1699378% less likley to commit cold blooded murder!!!!!
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It's good for it. Any press is good press.
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It's good for it. Any press is good press.
I must disagree. And I usually agree with that@
Not in BBing- not when the ENTIRE industry is based upon supplement sales, and there have been recent actions by politicians to lump together steroids with supplements and ban creatine.
if creatine was banned, watch the Colorado Pro not happen! Watch the sponsors drop and athletes pull out.
If Craig plays the fool and takes the stand and blames steroids, there will be more legislation to stop kids from taking those "pesky gateway drugs" available at GNC.
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It's good for it. Any press is good press.
I wonder what Arnold will say
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240 slow down, the Colorado Show is doing well son. ;D
S. Ray
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This whole Titus thing is going to draw some serious attention to Bodybuilding and it will smear a huge mark on the already fucked up sport
question is will this cause the whole industry to get douched and cleaned up?
could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
No one cares about bodybuilding, with or without murderers. When Bertil Fox killed his wife and lover, who cared besides people who live in St.Barts? No one. Well, besides Sports Illustrated, who did a front article on how freakish bodybuilders are. Nothing will change.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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I agree. Nobody gives a shit. ;D
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Like the majority of the nation reading this news, they will bring up steroids and blame it on steroids!!!
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Oh come on, if you has to pick one IFBB pro "most likely to murder someone and be stupid enough to leave the body in his own car"...
LOL
it had to be the afterhours party white niglet host gangsta craiggers
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The history of boxing is jam-packed with far more corruption, bad boys and dirty deeds than bodybuilding, and has never really changed. The front-end that you see on Pay TV is almost like a modern mafia front for the sleaziness of the reality.
This will 'hurt' BB near term, but it gets so little mainstream press that the few mostly negative articles that are picked up are mostly ignored by a public that has already made up their mind. Now, a few positive articles might make a reasonable impact, but yet another negative one - "Oh look, honey, some 250-pound ex-convict has murdered someone. Oh, and he was a bodybuilder I've never heard of, too..." - will soon be absorbed and forgotten.
If Arnold was involved, maybe they'd have a story that would stick. As it is, Titus is a nobody even in pro bodybuilding, so nobody outside of it is going to give a fuck.
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240 slow down, the Colorado Show is doing well son. ;D
S. Ray
LOL... I'm sure it is.
Although I think I can name one guy who could use a rugged all-terrain vehicle like a Hummer right about now. I hear the mexican roads aren't all that nice...
I'm just worried about the long-term effects of something like that. The media LOVES stuff like this- steroids. Hell, remember ESPN bashing arnold dueing the ASC this year? This story has all the making of good media/news- sex, 3-way, drugs, attractive people, las vegas, a burned up red jag, killer on the run...
If someone had written this 2 weeks ago, they would have been laughed off the boards for writing anything so farfetched.
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I agree. Nobody gives a shit. ;D
Ditto. In fact, hasn’t this question been answered already? As I recall, Titus is not the first body builder charged with or convicted of murder.
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The history of boxing is jam-packed with far more corruption, bad boys and dirty deeds than bodybuilding, and has never really changed. The front-end that you see on Pay TV is almost like a modern mafia front for the sleaziness of the reality.
This will 'hurt' BB near term, but it gets so little mainstream press that the few mostly negative articles that are picked up are mostly ignored by a public that has already made up their mind. Now, a few positive articles might make a reasonable impact, but yet another negative one - "Oh look, honey, some 250-pound ex-convict has murdered someone. Oh, and he was a bodybuilder I've never heard of, too..." - will soon be absorbed and forgotten.
If Arnold was involved, maybe they'd have a story that would stick. As it is, Titus is a nobody even in pro bodybuilding, so nobody outside of it is going to give a f**k.
Yet, manly men beating each other is accepted, whereas men oiling up, putting on a small trunk and posing to music is not. My point, is that bodybuilders, go agains the norm of acceptable behavior for heterosexual males, while fighters conform to that norm. Because of this, "mainstream" sports magazines try to validate their prejudiced viewpoint, of men who are bodybuilders being overral freak of natures, by showing them behaving freakishly. Too bad for us.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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The Bertil thing was completely off the radar.
This won't make any difference, one case isn't enough to make a difference and no one cares about bodybuilding anyway.
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Exactly. Although Patrica Cornwell has just come forward and said she always suspected Titus was Jack The Ripper, too.
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LOL... I'm sure it is.
Although I think I can name one guy who could use a rugged all-terrain vehicle like a Hummer right about now. I hear the mexican roads aren't all that nice...
I'm just worried about the long-term effects of something like that. The media LOVES stuff like this- steroids. Hell, remember ESPN bashing arnold dueing the ASC this year? This story has all the making of good media/news- sex, 3-way, drugs, attractive people, las vegas, a burned up red jag, killer on the run...
If someone had written this 2 weeks ago, they would have been laughed off the boards for writing anything so farfetched.
Agreed. this is a very media freindly case. this case could be another Buttafuco/Fisher
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Agreed. this is a very media freindly case. this case could be another Buttafuco/Fisher
I'm telling you... there will be back-to-back episodes of CSI and America's Most Wanted featuring Craiggers and Kelly.
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240 slow down, the Colorado Show is doing well son. ;D
S. Ray
Let me tell you a story Shawn. Remember a few years back when their were wrestling wars and Vince Mac was trying to wipe out all competition. Well a small upstart promoter had a show that was sold out. It was a small indy, but had a couple of stars that Vince had let go. The story goes that Vince paid the building's owner to lock the joint up for the night. When all the people and stars showed up, all they had was an empty building that was locked up tighter than a frogs ass and that's water tight. The show never went on and the indy had to fold all because of 1 show. All his $$$ was tied up in promoting, advertising, vendors ect... but in the end because of a chained up building, the whole upstart indy folded. Never let your guard down.
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could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
It would have required a lot more people to be in the trunk of that car to clean this sport up.
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Ditto. In fact, hasn’t this question been answered already? As I recall, Titus is not the first body builder charged with or convicted of murder.
Get back in your cage, white puppy.......
Don't make me corral you by the collar....... >:(
DIV
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This whole Titus thing is going to draw some serious attention to Bodybuilding and it will smear a huge mark on the already fucked up sport
question is will this cause the whole industry to get douched and cleaned up?
could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
seriously the IFBB and pros need to volunteer w/ orgs like united way etc like the NFL does......
baking people in your show time rotisserie(jags trunk) will not help the sport...
>:(
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Steroids tell people to do some crazy shit sometimes. In this case they told Craig to melt down a huge metal automobile using kerosine and he beleived the lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-X
Here's the problem.....Craig was off when it happened. It was the lack of steroids that was clouding his brain.
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Pecker in the trunk mayber would have been interesting. AT least the #1 publication in the world would make it front page news.
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As an earlier poster alluded to, over the last 60-plus years, at least, "bodybuilding" has had its share of participants who were either murderers, robbers, arsonists, drug users/dealers, gang leaders, hit men, etc., making sensational negative press and besmirching the BB lifestyle. But, despite this, BB continues to survive as a closet cult/lifestyle!
As before, the mass media will have their "shark-feeding-frenzy" on the alleged Titus' murder...hey, maybe even a TV movie...and then, this sensationalism, too, will pass!
But, unlike previous decades in the history of BB, we NOW have a firm foundation of millions of socially responsible, drug-free, "recreational bodybuilders" (good citizens!) who are weight-training at home and in gyms, world-wide! These wonderful individuals present, and help establish/perpetuate, an undeniable POSITIVE image of BB to the general pubic and the media...so desperately needed to help counter the periodic sensational negative press of a handful of BB miscreant murderers, drug dealers/users, gang leaders, etc.! Thank God!!
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As an earlier poster alluded to, over the last 60-plus years, at least, "bodybuilding" has had its share of participants who were either murderers, robbers, arsonists, drug users/dealers, gang leaders, hit men, etc., making sensational negative press and besmirching the BB lifestyle. But, despite this, BB continues to survive as a closet cult/lifestyle!
As before, the mass media will have their "shark-feeding-frenzy" on the alleged Titus' murder...hey, maybe even a TV movie...and then, this sensationalism, too, will pass!
But, unlike previous decades in the history of BB, we NOW have a firm foundation of millions of socially responsible, drug-free, "recreational bodybuilders" (good citizens!) who are weight-training at home and in gyms, world-wide! These wonderful individuals present, and help establish/perpetuate, an undeniable POSITIVE image of BB to the general pubic and the media...so desperately needed to help counter the periodic sensational negative press of a handful of BB miscreant murderers, drug dealers/users, gang leaders, etc.! Thank God!!
Rich, if you would like to write up a few paragraphs - an editorial- on the problem being the man, and not any drug- I would love to put it on www.freecraigtitus.com
I am trying to collect a number of resources, as well as differing views on the subject, so the reader doesn't have to swallow what cnn.com tells them to think.
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I can't believe this news.
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hahaha.
Titus is now as relevant as canned olives.
Monster fading into obscurity.
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Bodybuilding is not a sport and what happened to that racist murderer Bertil Fox?
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Bertil Fox was originally given a death sentence, but it was commuted to life in prison. He will never go free.
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This whole Titus thing is going to draw some serious attention to Bodybuilding and it will smear a huge mark on the already fucked up sport
question is will this cause the whole industry to get douched and cleaned up?
could this terrible event actually be good for the sport after this blows over?
it will do what any other case does,, it will make le go after NARCOTIC DEALERS even harder. the reason bodybuilding is even mentioned is because small minority of "bodybuilding" personas add nubain and many other pain killers onto their "phenominal" ug lists and then on the weekends go in the club/party wearing muscle shirts selling x and coke and meth.
NARCS BRING DOWN BODYBUILDERS. NARCS IS THE REASON YOU GET BUSTED. NARCS NARCS NARCS! some in usa do not seem to get it,,SAY NO TO NARCOTICS!!!
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it wont change a thing........there will be a trial...guilty or not guilty......things will go on as usual..........remember. .........theres big dollars in this business....where theres big dollars...people get paid to do what needs to be done