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Cross post from the RP monster thread so I can use this thread title as a question...
Rich is off his f**king head here! Not drunk, no way - this is some narcotic sort of sh1t. Clips of him almost falling over in the hotel room... drying his ass for no need while wearing boxers... confusing sh1t!
Is this opiates...? ESF can you help? If people don't want to watch the whole thing, just watch around 4.30 onwards
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Yikes! Wonder what he was on.
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Yikes! Wonder what he was on.
The 'nodding' makes me think opiates of some sort, but my knowledge of that is limited. Kinda hoping some of the guys on here with experience can help. I know I saw straws and a credit card in the bathroom, but i honestly don't know which ones you can snort. And Rich never struck me a a drinker, so.... :P ???
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Definitely looks like opiates from what I've seen of old friends.
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He's just nodding on opiates. He likely had some benzos in his system as well helping them along
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Like i said countless times, she murder him, and make it look like a accident.
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GHB
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GHB
Nah, ghb od is worse to watch. Scary
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Can someone post the actual link to this video for me, for some reason no videos are appearing for me here on Getbig, not sure whats going on.
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Can someone post the actual link to this video for me, for some reason no videos are appearing for me here on Getbig, not sure whats going on.
i'm having the same problem with IE. I somehow deleted the other browser (no clue what it was? chrome maybe?) and they were working fine with that.
since IE.. nada.
phone = yes
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Hypo?? Seriously...?? I know he used insulin for expo's, but does this ring true?
https://www.change.org/p/stop-sara-piana-from-stealing-the-late-rich-piana-s-wealth-and-property
"In the video, Sara Piana films Rich Piana while he is having a serious DIABETIC EMERGENCY after having drunk alcohol. Despite this, she does nothing but film him in an attempt not just to humiliate him, but perpetuate a narrative that Rich Piana was too high in the video. Sara, who is a proven meth addict, tries to carry this out by planting words in his mouth, and asking him questions about drugs so he can incriminate himself, to which she appears to fail. The only coherent words Rich Piana says are, "You've never videotaped me drinking" and "You've never had a video of me drinking."
The Diabetic Emergency Rich Piana has is caused by injecting insulin which bodybuilders use to gain muscle mass. The alcohol that Sara, who was obviously sober had him drink, made it worse. Sara Piana knows very well such episodes can turn fatal at any moment, and there are only two options save Rich: one, call an ambulance, or two, give Rich Piana some form of sugar or glucose. But she does neither and continues to film him, while trying to manipulating him into incriminating himself, and so Rich despite being barely able to stand up, has to go and reach for nearby cookies by himself while she is condescendingly breathing behind his back whilst feigning fear and still persistently trying to plant words in his mouth so people think Rich Piana is having a drug overdose. But all Rich says coherently in the entire video is, "You've never videotaped me drinking" and "You've never had a video of me drinking," to which she tried to change the subject. And so like with the leaked audio, and despite his state, Rich knew something fishy is going on."
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Can someone post the actual link to this video for me, for some reason no videos are appearing for me here on Getbig, not sure whats going on.
https://youtu.be/LJU1Zc2WmJ4 (https://youtu.be/LJU1Zc2WmJ4)
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Cross post from the RP monster thread so I can use this thread title as a question...
this is opiates 100%. called nodding out when you're still "awake"... it's odd. I even did it a few times in the hospital. Nurses recognized it right away. I usually just stood in one place and would fall asleep standing up and not fall or sway at all. in the hospital i'd somehow bend forward at the waist and fall asleep almost till my hands hit the grond and wake up. stand up and do it again. somebody talking to you will snap you right out of it for a moment. the fact he's swaying makes me think he took a could Xanax or klonopins first before the opiate (likely oxy).
FYI... oxy has a 20% higher bioavailability ORALLY than snorted. foolish to snort oxy. he was probably speedballing Adderall (snorting) with the oxy and that's what the credit card and straws were for where he was by the mirror.
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Hypo?? Seriously...?? I know he used insulin for expo's, but does this ring true?
https://www.change.org/p/stop-sara-piana-from-stealing-the-late-rich-piana-s-wealth-and-property
"In the video, Sara Piana films Rich Piana while he is having a serious DIABETIC EMERGENCY after having drunk alcohol. Despite this, she does nothing but film him in an attempt not just to humiliate him, but perpetuate a narrative that Rich Piana was too high in the video. Sara, who is a proven meth addict, tries to carry this out by planting words in his mouth, and asking him questions about drugs so he can incriminate himself, to which she appears to fail. The only coherent words Rich Piana says are, "You've never videotaped me drinking" and "You've never had a video of me drinking."
The Diabetic Emergency Rich Piana has is caused by injecting insulin which bodybuilders use to gain muscle mass. The alcohol that Sara, who was obviously sober had him drink, made it worse. Sara Piana knows very well such episodes can turn fatal at any moment, and there are only two options save Rich: one, call an ambulance, or two, give Rich Piana some form of sugar or glucose. But she does neither and continues to film him, while trying to manipulating him into incriminating himself, and so Rich despite being barely able to stand up, has to go and reach for nearby cookies by himself while she is condescendingly breathing behind his back whilst feigning fear and still persistently trying to plant words in his mouth so people think Rich Piana is having a drug overdose. But all Rich says coherently in the entire video is, "You've never videotaped me drinking" and "You've never had a video of me drinking," to which she tried to change the subject. And so like with the leaked audio, and despite his state, Rich knew something fishy is going on."
that's absolutely not what an "insulin induced" emergency looks like. his hands would be shaking and he'd e pouring sweat.
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if it were fentanyl, he'd be down asleep, not moving, and breathing reaaaaaaaaal slow.
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idk what's wrong with Rich but Sara is obviously a scheming, traitorous, manipulative bitch who is trying to set Rich up and doesn't give two shits about his well-being. She's the devil.
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Looks like opiates, or opiates + alcohol. Definitely not diabetic.
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https://youtu.be/LJU1Zc2WmJ4 (https://youtu.be/LJU1Zc2WmJ4)
Thanks! Sketchy video, weird how the audio completely shuts off for long periods of time, yet turns back on at other points, Mostly when Sarah is acting "concerned" she obviously leaked this, but muted the audio.
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Was this the same day he died?
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Seen quite a few guys doing that while on GHB. Could be any opiate, or alcohol, or combination. Nobody can tell exactly what he took by looking at this. Take enough of any opiate, GHB, etc. and this can happen.
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Syringe on the bathroom counter. Maybe he shoots opiates? ???
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He had an opiate problem. Also Sara/Chanel wanted him dead and probably added shit to his protein shakes while he wasn't watching
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Syringe on the bathroom counter. Maybe he shoots opiates? ???
In his vids he always discussed carb loading with slin to looks his biggest for expos so who knows re the slin pin.
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Seen quite a few guys doing that while on GHB. Could be any opiate, or alcohol, or combination. Nobody can tell exactly what he took by looking at this. Take enough of any opiate, GHB, etc. and this can happen.
Yup.
GHB still is kinda big in the gay club community. It's a fucked up sight seeing somebody on it when they've had too much.
I too have seen it first hand and that video could very well be GHB considering he's done it many times in the past.
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He's gone and the world is over it.
On top of that, it's not as if he was going to compose the theme to Sesame Street.
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Fentanyl is some nasty stuff. Spiked opiates are killing a lot of people all over right now....hood to hillbillies.
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FYI... oxy has a 20% higher bioavailability ORALLY than snorted. foolish to snort oxy. he was probably speedballing Adderall (snorting) with the oxy and that's what the credit card and straws were for where he was by the mirror.
That's funny about Oxycontin consumption - orally vs. nasally. I think people ingest it nasally for the initial rush because, as you said, it has a higher bioavailability when consumed orally.
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Well now you have to wonder if he really died of a heart attack now.
I get the feeling there's more to the Story than coco Channel is letting on.
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Well now you have to wonder if he really died of a heart attack now.
I get the feeling there's more to the Story than coco Channel is letting on.
Chanel probably been feedin' him shit/drugs!
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Yup.
GHB still is kinda big in the gay club community. It's a fucked up sight seeing somebody on it when they've had too much.
I too have seen it first hand and that video could very well be GHB considering he's done it many times in the past.
He should have switched to phenibut, which is slightly related. It gives amazing euphoria/focus/"don't give a fuck" mood boost and is still legal.
Addictive as fuck though (especially if you're an anxious person naturally) and the withdrawals will wreck you if you mess up.
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He's gone and the world is over it.
On top of that, it's not as if he was going to compose the theme to Sesame Street.
His channel was popular for a reason. He was a charismatic and motivational dude, more than anyone in the industry. It wasn't necessarily about copying him and destroying your body in the proccess (which made him incredibly successful), but following your dreams, doing your best and staying positive.
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That's some kind of opiate for sure. Yes likely fentanyl as I originally reported after he died.
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Can someone post the actual link to this video for me, for some reason no videos are appearing for me here on Getbig, not sure whats going on.
It is your browser the problem !!!
For some reason the GetBig YouTube button doesn't work anymore with microsoft edge browser
I had the same problem too. I am now using the Chrome browser surfing on GetBig and I can see all the YouTube videos. ;)
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Giving true meaning to the term "fitness whore."
This woman is a truly disturbing individual.
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Was this the same day he died?
No.
This is most likely the day that Rich was at a particular seminar and didn't look too good at the seminar and was telling people he wasn't feeling good & might've had the flu or something...... and most likely also the same night that Sara said she "saved his life".
... maybe one of the only times Sarah has actually told the truth
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That's funny about Oxycontin consumption - orally vs. nasally. I think people ingest it nasally for the initial rush because, as you said, it has a higher bioavailability when consumed orally.
Even snorting oxy doesn't really give much if any Rush.
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Thanks! Sketchy video, weird how the audio completely shuts off for long periods of time, yet turns back on at other points, Mostly when Sarah is acting "concerned" she obviously leaked this, but muted the audio.
My theory, pure speculation on my part or maybe an educated guess, is that the audio cuts out when they're over there by the mirror where you can clearly see a credit card and what looks to be a straws and shit and I would be guessing Sarah may be asking him how much he took or suggesting he does a few bumps of Adderall to "get straight/level out".
The talk of GHB OD'n, I guess is plausible, however you usually don't get sort of like that until you get to low level of like GHP toxicity and you've been on G for quite a while at high high doses and since G suppresses dopamine ( this $hit could get super fucking technical I guess in some of you guys might not understand it so I'll try to make it as understandable and quick as possible... So you guys that actually know the science behind it, don't kill me for trying to oversimplify it so other people can understand it)..
Long story short is to get to the point where rich is was at in the video, with GHB, he would need to have been using a lot, A Lot, of GHB leading up to that point.. enough to have been sleeping for a while before then video starts.
Enough GHB to have been suppressing/blocking his dopamine receptors... or how I explain this is?... Ugh.... I guess the simplest way to explain it is using a lot of GHB which stops dopamine from hitting the receptors. Then after that 4-Hour mark The receptors are available and all the while GHP has been increasing dopamine production so The receptors get flooded with dopamine and that's why you wake up after 4 hours of GHB. However with sustained periods of heavy heavy heavy use the amount of dopamine that's being produced kind of overpowers the receptors being blocked and the dopamine snaps those receptors and wakes him up and then theGHB Takes over again and knocks him out ams he nods..
If that makes sense...
Like I put it this way Jesus Christ hard to explain... you take a "pass out dose" of GHB and it knocks you out put you to sleep for 4 hours. Now during those four hours your body or your brain is producing more dopamine while at the same time "blocking" dopamine receptors. Now at the 4-Hour Mark those receptors are "released" (& open for biz) and then all that dopamine that's been built up, floods those receptors and wakes you up like you are wide awake.
Usually if you're just taking one or two doses of GHB even if their pass out doses, this cycle works just fine. However when you start taking toxic toxic levels of GHB this cycle instead of lasting 4 hours could last 30aeconds, 4 minutes, 8mins, etc... so it's as if he has enough GHB in a system to put them to sleep however at the same time he has way too much dopamine in his body and the dopamine receptor "switch" is getting switched on and off and on and off preventing him from actually falling asleep for any length of time like I said be it 30 seconds or 4 minutes or 8 minutes...
If any of that makes sense...
That being said with a GHB overdose like I described above the movements (when you snap out of it and wake up after the "nod") are much more "Twitchy".....
The steps Willie lady me too conclude based on my experience with both, that this is an opiate and most likely opiate benzo combination "misadventure"/OD.
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Giving true meaning to the term "fitness whore."
This woman is a truly disturbing individual.
So was Rich. Nobody forced him to do this shit, he did it to himself. It was only a matter of time when this moron would kill himself.
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It is your browser the problem !!!
For some reason the GetBig YouTube button doesn't work anymore with microsoft edge browser
I had the same problem too. I am now using the Chrome browser surfing on GetBig and I can see all the YouTube videos. ;)
It's Getbig's problem. I run Chrome, and can see YouTube vids on Getbig. However, on my android phone (Galaxy J7) It says: This content is not supported.
But if I go to other sites, I can watch YouTube videos just fine.
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Running Android Nougat 7.0 & YouTube works just fine
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It's Getbig's problem. I run Chrome, and can see YouTube vids on Getbig. However, on my android phone (Galaxy J7) It says: This content is not supported.
But if I go to other sites, I can watch YouTube videos just fine.
I'm using Microsoft and I cannot see any of the embedded YT vids either.
Google is basically forcing people to switch to their Chrome browser. I have too many favorites saved, I'm not switching.
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I'm using Microsoft and I cannot see any of the embedded YT vids either.
Google is basically forcing people to switch to their Chrome browser. I have too many favorites saved, I'm not switching.
No clue what browser I was using up until a couple days ago when I accidentally unpinned it or deleted it or something from my bottom task bar on my PC but you two was running fine on get big with that browser and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Chrome because I I'm also pretty sure I'll still getting the messages up top saying do you want to make Chrome your browser? And Hannah had to click no thanks
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Its oxy's - end of story. You can even hear her saying "how many oxy's did you take, there's only 2 left" etc.
Just because there is less bioavailabiliy snorting than orally doesn't mean loads of people dont know that and snort it anyway.
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GHB
Boom. 100% this. In this video that is what he's on no debate.
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Can anybody (maybe with a little inside knowledge) please tell me why one would take this kind of stuff?
Based on the vid it doesn't look like any fun to me ??? ???
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What a nasty fucking whore. I hope she gets run over by a bus.
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nasty woman- president donald trump
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Why would he do Ghb before an expo, it doesn't make sense, before bed i get it, but before an all day expo appearance you would think he do some sort of stimulant.
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His channel was popular for a reason. He was a charismatic and motivational dude, more than anyone in the industry. It wasn't necessarily about copying him and destroying your body in the proccess (which made him incredibly successful), but following your dreams, doing your best and staying positive.
Thing is his whole life was smoke and mirrors, tried to spread a never give up motivational message and tried to make others feel good all the while he is obviously empty inside because he needed other rec drugs to function. I known and have lived that way myself and trying to help others feel good is an escape from the reality I was living.
Rich seems to have been a nice guy, however looking at all the puzzle pieces he was very sad and lonely despite being surrounded by hanger ons and leeches
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Boom. 100% this. In this video that is what he's on no debate.
Like someone else says though, I wonder why he'd use it the morning of an expo? And I've seen people high on that stuff and there was a lot more eye-rolling and twitching?
I was also wondering if Ketamine is 'a thing' in the US? As I've seen kids reeling round like this and that's what their friends told me they were on (as I gently escorted them to the door and called an ambulance LOL)
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Well now you have to wonder if he really died of a heart attack now.
I get the feeling there's more to the Story than coco Channel is letting on.
I'm still leaning towards opiate OD TBH. (I've spent far too much time thinking about this, for sure! :P).
The snoring Chanel mentioned as he collapsed made me think of two other occasions - one when that Kid Zyzz died it was reported that during the day he was so doped up (on opiates) that he was snoring really unnaturally while getting a massage (believe he died that night). The second was when a friend fell from a horse and was in a coma for a few weeks - the moment it happened they were filming, and as people approached them lying on the floor you could hear really really loud weird almost un-human snoring...
So that makes me wonder if there's a stage of deep unconsciousness (just before death) where the brain is for all intents and purposes almost completely shut down, but some vestige of the primitive brain-stem or something just kicks in and takes over the basics to keep the body alive ... I don't suppose we've got any neurologists on the board..?
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I'm still leaning towards opiate OD TBH. (I've spent far too much time thinking about this, for sure! :P).
The snoring Chanel mentioned as he collapsed made me think of two other occasions - one when that Kid Zyzz died it was reported that during the day he was so doped up (on opiates) that he was snoring really unnaturally while getting a massage (believe he died that night). The second was when a friend fell from a horse and was in a coma for a few weeks - the moment it happened they were filming, and as people approached them lying on the floor you could hear really really loud weird almost un-human snoring...
So that makes me wonder if there's a stage of deep unconsciousness (just before death) where the brain is for all intents and purposes almost completely shut down, but some vestige of the primitive brain-stem or something just kicks in and takes over the basics to keep the body alive ... I don't suppose we've got any neurologists on the board..?
this will answer your question I think
tommy cooper dies onstage, watch what happens
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this will answer your question I think
tommy cooper dies onstage, watch what happens
Good (if morbid :'() call Nelson - I'd seen this and forgotten about it. I don't really want to watch him die again, so from memory some of the noise is..... er.... from the other end..... but you're saying that there is snoring too presumably? So does what I'm saying sounds plausible to you?
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I know what nodding out on opiates is like standing up & I know what od'ing on GHB is like, & I I know what it's like being fucked up (more than just buzzed) on GHB is like... And to me that's 100% opiates.
Known fact Rich used Adderall. Adderall mg or any kind of stimulant in G don't typically go together however opiates and stimulants do
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I know what nodding out on opiates is like standing up & I know what od'ing on GHB is like, & I I know what it's like being fucked up (more than just buzzed) on GHB is like... And to me that's 100% opiates.
Known fact Rich used Adderall. Adderall mg or any kind of stimulant in G don't typically go together however opiates and stimulants do
I tend to agree - what about Ketamine? Is it used over there much? It certainly is used for clubbing, etc. over here...
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His channel was popular for a reason. He was a charismatic and motivational dude, more than anyone in the industry. It wasn't necessarily about copying him and destroying your body in the proccess (which made him incredibly successful), but following your dreams, doing your best and staying positive.
Very well said............
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Is that right before he died?
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I miss Rich god dammit!!!
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fuck that gold digging bitch/attention whore... thats bs.. video taping him like that to black mail him...dont trust any woman... they will backstab you in heart beat. once you give them too much faith they will use that against you
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Is that right before he died?
No - a long time before - if you notice, he has far fewer tattoos at that point - no 'One Day You May' across his chest for example.... by the time he died he had substantially more cover than that...
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I'm still leaning towards opiate OD TBH. (I've spent far too much time thinking about this, for sure! Tongue).
The snoring Chanel mentioned as he collapsed made me think of two other occasions - one when that Kid Zyzz died it was reported that during the day he was so doped up (on opiates) that he was snoring really unnaturally while getting a massage (believe he died that night). The second was when a friend fell from a horse and was in a coma for a few weeks - the moment it happened they were filming, and as people approached them lying on the floor you could hear really really loud weird almost un-human snoring...
So that makes me wonder if there's a stage of deep unconsciousness (just before death) where the brain is for all intents and purposes almost completely shut down, but some vestige of the primitive brain-stem or something just kicks in and takes over the basics to keep the body alive ... I don't suppose we've got any neurologists on the board..?
Sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonal_respiration or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_rattle
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I know what nodding out on opiates is like standing up & I know what od'ing on GHB is like, & I I know what it's like being fucked up (more than just buzzed) on GHB is like... And to me that's 100% opiates.
Known fact Rich used Adderall. Adderall mg or any kind of stimulant in G don't typically go together however opiates and stimulants do
Def. Its not fucking GHB. That nodding out on some dope right there
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Can anybody (maybe with a little inside knowledge) please tell me why one would take this kind of stuff?
Based on the vid it doesn't look like any fun to me ??? ???
It feels good for a while (depending on half-life). And the following day you feel like shit if you don't get more and increase the dose.
Like every substance out there including caffeine
Never messed with opiods like oxy but the closest I took to GHB was Phenibut and the euphoria and complete relief of anxiety you get from it the first few times is incredible.
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It feels good for a while (depending on half-life). And the following day you feel like shit if you don't get more and increase the dose.
Like every substance out there including caffeine
Doesn't that mean you need to take more/increase the dose each and every day until your body can't handle it anymore?
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Doesn't that mean you need to take more/increase the dose each and every day until your body can't handle it anymore?
hydrocodines yes... then people cant afford their pill addiction any more so they move(cause they pop too much due too tolerance) to the cheaper opiate route... heroine ...seen several friends this has happened too
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Sounds like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agonal_respiration
Bingo! That's the one, thanks. 'Breathing' even though the heart has stopped....
"Agonal breaths or respirations are, in essence, the body's last-ditch effort to deliver oxygen to the vital organs. When a victim of cardiac arrest's heart ceases to pump blood due to a disorganized rhythm, the breathing center in the brain begins to starve for oxygen rich blood. This is called "ischemia." In this state, the brain-stem initiates a reflexive type of "breathing" characterized by an infrequent, sudden, shallow gasp. This reflexive breathing pattern is made possible through the sudden spasm of both the diaphragm and the muscles in the jaw that can occur for up to several minutes following cardiac arrest.
To the untrained eye, the sudden expansion of the chest and opening of the mouth may look similar to normal breathing, but this phenomena is in fact anything but normal.
Agonal respirations are sudden, irregular and normally accompanied with a snoring sound or gasping vocalization as a small amount of air enters the lungs. Studies show that up to 40% of cardiac arrest victims exhibit an agonal breathing pattern. For this reason, it is important to realize that when an unresponsive person is seen with agonal-type breathing it is a sign of the need for CPR and AED use for lay-providers, and for healthcare providers, it is a prompt for carotid pulse assessment ."
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I tend to agree - what about Ketamine? Is it used over there much? It certainly is used for clubbing, etc. over here...
it's pretty rare now. the 'gay scene', or at least the gay 'party scene' absolutely love it and the demand is extremely high.
(I know this because I have gay clients who have no problem talking about it. I've mentioned on this forum before about 'counseling' clients & them talking with me about their friends or family members having addiction problems and they know I kicked a Nubain addiction back in 02 and had been clean since)
back in the day ketamine was easier to get. I've spoken about my first time getting 'K' for a gf's gay roommate at UCSD and having no idea about the cost and ended up bringing back thousands of dollars worth... haha... i'm searching for the thread where I talked abou it.
but these days? it's super dry. especially since the owner of Denkall got busted back in '05 just before I got locked up
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Great guy, but kinda self destructive. Amazing that he reached 46 years of age!
He must have been desparate to marry such an icelandic girl, but hey, many men are desparate and seem to think marriage is the goal in life.
Marriage was just made up by religion to keep people on the right path
Didn't work for Rich ;D
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it's pretty rare now. the 'gay scene', or at least the gay 'party scene' absolutely love it and the demand is extremely high.
(I know this because I have gay clients who have no problem talking about it. I've mentioned on this forum before about 'counseling' clients & them talking with me about their friends or family members having addiction problems and they know I kicked a Nubain addiction back in 02 and had been clean since)
back in the day ketamine was easier to get. I've spoken about my first time getting 'K' for a gf's gay roommate at UCSD and having no idea about the cost and ended up bringing back thousands of dollars worth... haha... i'm searching for the thread where I talked abou it.
but these days? it's super dry. especially since the owner of Denkall got busted back in '05 just before I got locked up
Ketamine is supposedly fantastic for depression and might help kick a drug habit.
Never knew anyone who took it and don't know about availability but I bet there's lots around if one searched on whatever marketplaces they have on the dark web. I remember reading that China pumped out tons of it and authorities were shutting down a lot of UG ketamine labs.
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Is almost everyday you see a woman suck the success right out of a man
If he just paid for ass , instead of having her around all the time , he'd of been better off no doubt
Better off getting a dog and an all season pass to a nice strip club
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At least rich caught her fairly early & didn't let the shit go on for 10-plus years like Milos did with Milimar
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Is almost everyday you see a woman suck the success right out of a man
If he just paid for ass , instead of having her around all the time , he'd of been better off no doubt
Better off getting a dog and an all season pass to a nice strip club
Hookers have full disclosure and you always know their price, but wives don't tell you anything until divorce court.
Best thing for men is to NEVER get married. The financial ramifications are just too high.
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fuck that gold digging bitch/attention whore... thats bs.. video taping him like that to black mail him...dont trust any woman... they will backstab you in heart beat. once you give them too much faith they will use that against you
Look, Rich liked that type of woman. He reveled in that type of drama. That is what he was about, he liked the gold diggers, the users. He got what he liked, so he should be held accountable for that. We like to blame others for so-so and our downfalls, but oftentimes, we aid those very same people.
These women would not have been video recording Rich had he not been on drugs or acted in a malicious manner. And they wouldn't be in his life period, if he didn't allow it. By excusing Rich's own actions, you have basically said that he was really a weakling who fell victim to more powerful women.
And for the person saying that he was charismatic. Smh, that first part of the vid sounds like some cliche saying an older gym bro is telling a younger gym bro.
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That ain't alcohol
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At least rich caught her fairly early & didn't let the shit go on for 10-plus years like Milos did with Milimar
What Milamar did was quite calculated eh?
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Boom. 100% this. In this video that is what he's on no debate.
Wrong. You've clearly never done oxy. And are you hard of hearing? She even says its oxy's in the video.
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What Milamar did was quite calculated eh?
a lil more extensive, far as starting businesses and such, but Milos caught her years before they finally "split".
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By the way scrolling through my YouTube feed this shit pop up again... When he was talking to Sarah in the video the best way to describe it is like you're sleepwalking and you're talking about shit that's going on in a dream your having while you're half-asleep half awake nodding off... and the other person has no clue what the fuck you're talking about because you're replying to a dream
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What did Milamar do?
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What did Milamar do?
Had her way with the beautiful man with glasses as a covert distraction as she wrested control of Milos' business interests and used the courts against him.
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brutal! :o
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Had her way with the beautiful man with glasses as a covert distraction as she wrested control of Milos' business interests and used the courts against him.
LOL. You sure know a lot about their situation, especially for knowing so much about their business back in the 90's! ::)
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Had her way with the beautiful man with glasses as a covert distraction as she wrested control of Milos' business interests and used the courts against him.
I seem to remember that Nasser and Dorian were before Milos was in the picture.
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I seem to remember that Nasser and Dorian were before Milos was in the picture.
Nope, this was after and during. Dorian was with his woman.
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LOL. You sure know a lot about their situation, especially for knowing so much about their business back in the 90's! ::)
"In his anger, his pain, his self pity, his desperation, and whatever else you might call it he went up to my former wife, who was at that time in our hotel gym at the Mandalay Bay Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada, and told her that he wanted to divorce his wife Milamar. He said that "he had had enough" and was sick and tired of his wife Milamar - I do not recollect if she is his the fourth or fifth wife? Anyways he said that she had been with many guys while she was with him. He told my former wife that Milamar had been together sexually with members of his own gym, several assistants of Chris Lund (the guys who help Lund during the photo shoots to move camera equipment and weights around), Dorian Yates and myself.
Milos had sent his wife Milamar out to pick up the visiting Yates. Milos had the idea of opening a gym with Yates and before that he wanted to open a gym with me. Anyways, it took her over eight hours to pick Dorian Yates up from the nearby airport where Milos's gym is located (Fullerton, California).
Milos also later asked Yates if it was true that he had been with his wife Milamar. Supposedly Yates had said "yes" - and Milos said, "Okay, I have to respect that, you are honest and speaking the truth." At one point they did a seminar together on a tour in England but neither of the gentlemen talked to one other; they just talked to the fans.
In 1999 Milos was on the same plane with me, Levrone, Cormier and Ronnie, flying from Northern Europe down to the US Newark airport and Milos asked me the same question (the same one he had asked Yates) after he had asked Ronnie to switch seats with me. I also said "yes" - and Milos said, "But my wife said that you had called her at least 30 times in her hotel room until she gave in."
But I replied to Milos and said, "Please tell your wife to stop acting dumb", and that I had called her just once in her room and that was it. Actually the following day she wanted to be with me again but I told her that she could not because I already had another arrangement with a girl from Boston (an exotic dancer) for the rest of that weekend. I even introduced both girls' to each other but obviously they did not like each other too much.
At that time, in the plane, Milos was begging me not to tell anyone, which I did not. He felt embarrassed. But I have to say here this is not his fault. This can happen anytime to anyone."
An oldie but a goodie... https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson329.htm (https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson329.htm)
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"The actual sexual encounter between Milamar and me happened in her room at the New York Beacon hotel, in 1995. Milamar had flown into NY City, coming from Calgary, Canada; she also said she was delayed by US immigration. During our "session" she called me a nasty boy several times because I liked her turning in different positions.
Also she said to me that I had a "cute penis" which is, to my assessment, pretty bold and forward for a girl you have only been with for the first time. After I was done I wanted to go back to my own room because I was tired and wanted to rest. I did not want to stay in her room, hold hands with her and shave her private parts as she asked me to do."
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"The actual sexual encounter between Milamar and me happened in her room at the New York Beacon hotel, in 1995. Milamar had flown into NY City, coming from Calgary, Canada; she also said she was delayed by US immigration. During our "session" she called me a nasty boy several times because I liked her turning in different positions.
Also she said to me that I had a "cute penis" which is, to my assessment, pretty bold and forward for a girl you have only been with for the first time. After I was done I wanted to go back to my own room because I was tired and wanted to rest. I did not want to stay in her room, hold hands with her and shave her private parts as she asked me to do."
I understand you read a lot of things on their situation, with a lot of it probably true and some things of course not true. I worked for Milos (although Milamar was usually the one running the day to day operations up in the front of the gym) for 2-3 years and trained at their gym until it changed hands to new ownership. I never saw anything bad in their relationship when I was there, but behind the scenes there was some issues as everyone knows now.
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"The actual sexual encounter between Milamar and me happened in her room at the New York Beacon hotel, in 1995. Milamar had flown into NY City, coming from Calgary, Canada; she also said she was delayed by US immigration. During our "session" she called me a nasty boy several times because I liked her turning in different positions.
Also she said to me that I had a "cute penis" which is, to my assessment, pretty bold and forward for a girl you have only been with for the first time. After I was done I wanted to go back to my own room because I was tired and wanted to rest. I did not want to stay in her room, hold hands with her and shave her private parts as she asked me to do."
This was before or after her implants and Playboy appearance?
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I understand you read a lot of things on their situation, with a lot of it probably true and some things of course not true. I worked for Milos (although Milamar was usually the one running the day to day operations up in the front of the gym) for 2-3 years and trained at their gym until it changed hands to new ownership. I never saw anything bad in their relationship when I was there, but behind the scenes there was some issues as everyone knows now.
The truth? I don't really believe most of it, it's just funny to read. I spent a long time away from all this and when I came back Nasser was dead. I found this by accident and he comes across a a real piece of sh1t (RIP). I think this is the interview with the Kovacs towel thing - it was like he was burning his bridges or something....
Milos never did anything to me and I've always found anything he writes interesting too. Say hello to him for me next time you see him 8)
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Cross post from the RP monster thread so I can use this thread title as a question...
You love to dance on ths mans grave and futher defame him dont you?
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You love to dance on ths mans grave and futher defame him dont you?
That couldn't be further from the truth....
As I've said many times on here I may poke fun at 'famous' individuals but it's just the internet - none of it is meant seriously... As for Rich specifically, he lived his life in front of the camera, warts and all, as the saying goes. So I don't feel the need to shy away from examining his demise - but that doesn't mean I take any morbid pleasure from it - I just find it interesting.... In fact, once the CoD is established some may even learn from it and avoid personal disaster..... (unlikely I know, but possible).
PIP RP
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That couldn't be further from the truth....
As I've said many times on here I may poke fun at 'famous' individuals but it's just the internet - none of it is meant seriously... As for Rich specifically, he lived his life in front of the camera, warts and all, as the saying goes. So I don't feel the need to shy away from examining his demise - but that doesn't mean I take any morbid pleasure from it - I just find it interesting.... In fact, once the CoD is established some may even learn from it and avoid personal disaster..... (unlikely I know, but possible).
PIP RP
The lady doth protest too much