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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: ToxicAvenger on January 31, 2007, 02:53:00 PM
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when 75% of the people disagree with you and you still do as you please...
isn't that what Saddam did..did what he wanted...and killed inocent people..
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No.
Don't compare Bush to Hussein.
Bush has flaws.
But he's no dictator, and he's part of checks and balances - he's the Executive Branch.
-Hedge
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no it has not... a dictator ship does not start simply when over 50% do not agree of the action of their Government THEY themself elected.
A dictator ship starts when one person calls himself now the supreme leader.
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No.
Don't compare Bush to Hussein.
Bush has flaws.
But he's no dictator, and he's part of checks and balances - he's the Executive Branch.
-Hedge
well said hedge.
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The Question should have been:
Did the US turn into a Police State?
Yes is the answer to that one.
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But he's no dictator, and he's part of checks and balances - he's the Executive Branch.
Bush has called himself "The Decider". yesterday, congress asked Atty Gen. Alberto Gonzalez (Bush's former lawyer, and friend who suppressed his DUI arrest before the 2000 election) to define specifically what Congress' powers were at this point.
Some are calling congress 'cowards' for not checking Bush sooner. The problem is, what do you think will happen if Congress does cut spending. Will Bush place troops in such a way so that a massive slaughter occurs in iraq and Tony Snow wags his finger at Congress fo the cameras, blaming all the bloodshed on them?
Bush will, and has, made war decisions based upon political circumstances. he has handcuffed and replaced generals based upon elections and polls. If we cut money, and suddenly 1000 troops die, will McCain use that to win in 2008? (even though that same 1000 would have died at a slower rate under Bush without the eventual goals being achieved).
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no police state, none of our basic rights have been taken away
no dictatorship, there will be a peaceful change of power in 2008.
and BTW we are not a pure democracy........... we are a republic
Pure democracies never last........ they always become dictatorships.
American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition - Cite This Source
republic
A form of government in which power is explicitly vested in the people, who in turn exercise their power through elected representatives. Today, the terms republic and democracy are virtually interchangeable, but historically the two differed. Democracy implied direct rule by the people, all of whom were equal, whereas republic implied a system of government in which the will of the people was mediated by representatives, who might be wiser and better educated than the average person. In the early American republic, for example, the requirement that voters own property and the establishment of institutions such as the Electoral College were intended to cushion the government from the direct expression of the popular will.
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hey the only good thing is THEY cannot reelect bush again...
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Hopefully, this will get TA to use his right and his duty to vote, which he didn't do in the last few elections at least (not sure whether he's ever voted).
Go out and vote TA, take part in the democratic process.
-Hedge
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I don't believe it's a police state, nor do I believe a dictatorship.
The tide has turned. Congress is empowered again. Right now, CNN's headling "Rising GOP Revolve over bush's Conduct on War". White House and GOP leadership doing everything it can to fight it, but it's happening anyway because senators want to keep their jobs in 2008 and 2010 and saw their comrades get voted out for war support.
The checks and balances are working again. Bush seriously tried, but thanks to the freedom of information the web and people with active feet and mouths have provided, the blind support and unquestioned rallying for war has been undermined by iraq and 911 information, which has cast doubt on bush's credibility.
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Hopefully, this will get TA to use his right and his duty to vote, which he didn't do in the last few elections at least (not sure whether he's ever voted).
Go out and vote TA, take part in the democratic process.
-Hedge
i dont vote....i really dont see the point..and i honestly believe that...
the winner is always gonna be someone thats predestined to win..
look at the bush elections..
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The Question should have been:
Did the US turn into a Police State?
Yes is the answer to that one.
good answers everyone...and yes made me realize mayhap i phrased the question wrong...police state is what i ws going for..
however..
isn't dictatorship just a few rugs above on the same ladder?
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No.
Don't compare Bush to Hussein.
Bush has flaws.
But he's no dictator, and he's part of checks and balances - he's the Executive Branch.
-Hedge
I agree.
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good answers everyone...and yes made me realize mayhap i phrased the question wrong...police state is what i ws going for..
however..
isn't dictatorship just a few rugs above on the same ladder?
no... not even the same ballgame.... start worrying when a huge emergency happens (A Bomb in NY city) and Bush "prospones" the elections... indefinitely. ;)
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no... not even the same ballgame.... start worrying when a huge emergency happens (A Bomb in NY city) and Bush "prospones" the elections... indefinitely. ;)
i hope that never happens..
do you thbink bush is the guy running the show or is he..yanno..whats the word..the puppet and others r pulling the strings..?
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i hope that never happens..
do you thbink bush is the guy running the show or is he..yanno..whats the word..the puppet and others r pulling the strings..?
yes he is ... a man of his intellect cannot make such complicated decisions.
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this thread should be deleted just on the sheer stupidity of its title
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this thread should be deleted just on the sheer stupidity of its title
It's called democracy brother, and even in a face democracy the minions should get once in a while what they desire, just to delouse them who is really in charge ;)
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this thread should be deleted just on the sheer stupidity of its title
lemme guess
1) you r christian
2) you r whitie
3) republican
4) consider bush to be the second coming of christ
5) drive a camaro
how many did i get? ;D
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lemme guess
1) you r christian
2) you r whitie
3) republican
4) consider bush to be the second coming of christ
5) drive a camaro
how many did i get? ;D
Aren't all you yanks crazy gun swinging inbred trailorliving lightbeer drinking Gladiator watching guy/Jew hating fundamental Christians?
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Aren't all you yanks crazy gun swinging inbred trailorliving lightbeer drinking Gladiator watching Black/Jew hating fundamental Christians?
i'm ex pakistani and i drive a lowly civic >:(
and stick to red wine mostly..or scotch >:(
i really dislike the american black culture >:(
i really dislike zionists >:(
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So apart from point 1 and 2 you just fit the bill perfectly ;)
and I know you are ex paki, your father was rich and you had to flee your country.
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lol..i have nothing against the rest of the wold black population..actually jamacians people r quite nice with awesome bbing genes
most americans dont even acknowlodge that zionism exists.. :-\
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Alex calm the f**k down mate, do that shit in your gossip board, but not here, it's serioulsy uncool calling somebody sandngger.
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Alex calm the f**k down mate, do that shit in your gossip board, but not here, it's serioulsy uncool calling somebody sandngger.
Do you not see what is going on here? Toxic = a bitch. Alex23=the alpha male. All bitches needs a controlfreak to keep'em in check for the relationship to work.
;D
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Do you not see what is going on here? Toxic = a bitch. Alex23=the alpha male. All bitches needs a controlfreak to keep'em in check for the relationship to work.
;D
IC
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IC
THIS IS DEBUSSEYS SISTER. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!!! IC?? ???
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STFU sand guy. You're bias and you know it. What you said about me earlier finally cought up. IF you ain't happy here, go the f**k out back to your medieval 3rd world shit.
all i said ws that Diamond could do wayy better..she's slummin with you... ;D
apparently..i said something that hit home :) since i said that like a month ago!
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all i said ws that Diamond could do wayy better..she's slummin with you... ;D
apparently..i said something that hit home :) since i said that like a month ago!
Can we call you TUX?
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Can we call you TUX?
sure why not...lol.. :D
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Alex calm the f**k down mate, do that shit in your gossip board, but not here, it's serioulsy uncool calling somebody sandngger.
thanx for standing up for me mate..but..
as i've always said..i'd hate to live in a world where everyone loved everyone else..can ya imagine..
bias is part of human nature...its totally fine with me 8)
people r allowed to dislike me man! we live in a democracy ...and freedom of speech is a right i'll fight for even if someone else is bad mouthing me.. :)
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Fortunately for this country, we have a triumvirate form of government which provides checks and balances... This country can not become a dictatorship... Because we have the 2nd amendment and we get to have guns to protect our belief in our way of life.
People do want power, but we are fortunate that our forefathers were visionaries and saw that the power is with the people.
If more people got out and voted, these "problems" wouldn't be problems anymore... It's peoples indifference that is quite often the root of our problems.
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If more people got out and voted, these "problems" wouldn't be problems anymore...
its refreshing you actually believe that
i dont..
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its refreshing you actually believe that
i dont..
If you don't you should either leave or do whatever you can to change it.
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If you don't you should either leave or do whatever you can to change it.
ouchie..
my family has been here thru 1992..and with our total buzinesses we have prolly paid more in taxes in the last 10 yrs than you and this alex douche have made in your lives combined ;)
however if you r new to getbig...like most folks that know me..also know i believe that the illumaniti (masons) control everything...you cant do shit...
live your life..complain everynow n then...move on.
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watch this 9 min vid..and tell me i'm wrong
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Not quite a dictatorship, but an oligarchy. It's like the ancient Roman Republic where the rich senators did whatever the fuck they wanted. The rich senators in our time are Bush(consul), Cheney, Gonzalez and other neocons with power. Blind supporters like O'Rieley and Hannity are the patricians. ;D
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ouchie..
my family has been here thru 1992..and with our total buzinesses we have prolly paid more in taxes in the last 10 yrs than you and this alex douche have made in your lives combined ;)
however if you r new to getbig...like most folks that know me..also know i believe that the illumaniti (masons) control everything...you cant do shit...
live your life..complain everynow n then...move on.
First off... I didn't attack you... I was being very matter of factly... If you think the country needs to be changed... then stand up and change it... don't just complain about it.
Do you even vote? At a bare minimum if you don't vote, you have no right to complain.
I actually do take action, more than just sitting on a bodybuilding board... I do a lot of things locally to change things which I think are wrong.
Secondly, You don't know anything about me, so let's not start talking about paychecks... I don't really think you want to do that.
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First off... I didn't attack you... I was being very matter of factly... If you think the country needs to be changed... then stand up and change it... don't just complain about it.
Do you even vote? At a bare minimum if you don't vote, you have no right to complain.
I actually do take action, more than just sitting on a bodybuilding board... I do a lot of things locally to change things which I think are wrong.
Secondly, You don't know anything about me, so let's not start talking about paychecks... I don't really think you want to do that.
I mean in all fairness... who was to vote for? what do you do if all that is left you don't agree? Do you still have no voice of opinion just because you choose not to play "their" game?
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I mean in all fairness... who was to vote for? what do you do if all that is left you don't agree? Do you still have no voice of opinion just because you choose not to play "their" game?
Heck, if you don't like them that much... run yourself... That is truly the beauty of this country... you do not have to be an insider to start making changes.
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Heck, if you don't like them that much... run yourself... That is truly the beauty of this country... you do not have to be an insider to start making changes.
Me=Euro, I have to wait until Arnold has changed the constitution so even Euros can run for president :)
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Me=Euro, I have to wait until Arnold has changed the constitution so even Euros can run for president :)
hahaha ;D
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Secondly, You don't know anything about me, so let's not start talking about paychecks... I don't really think you want to do that.
ooo you pull off ominous well.. ::)
If you don't you should either leave or do whatever you can to change it.
<-- thats AN ATTACK....dunno what you make of it...dont back paddle..
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ooo you pull off ominous well.. ::)
<-- thats AN ATTACK....dunno what you make of it...dont back paddle..
Toxic seriously did you ever experienced blatant racism in the good USofA?
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Toxic seriously did you ever experienced blatant racism in the good USofA?
nah....lost a few dates here n there after 911 but thats about it...hey i cant blame the chicks either man..what if things got serious..i cant imagine a white chick telling her dad and mum "i'm dating a paki" soon after 911 :-\
and if i did..its ok with me..thats human nature man...
except i do take offence to the " go back" comments..since we've had more $ invested in this country since the 70s than most people make in 2 lifetimes.. :-\ it aint exactly chance that we were handed our greencards and citizenships soon after arrival... (came on L1 and L2 buziness visas)
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ooo you pull off ominous well.. ::)
<-- thats AN ATTACK....dunno what you make of it...dont back paddle..
That is totally not an attack... since you're not from this country, maybe English isn't your native language... Here, we can use the term "you" as a general statement as in "anyone".
When I say "you", in that sense... I'm saying if anyone doesn't like it, they can feel free to change the system.
It was not a direct attack against you personally.
I am quite ominous at times... at least that's what my ex-wife thinks.
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That is totally not an attack... since you're not from this country, maybe English isn't your native language... Here, we can use the term "you" as a general statement as in "anyone".
lol..i learned english from the english and ws speaking it before i spoke my native tongue..
i'm a published poet..
my english i assure you..is better than yours! :)
the rest is a futile backpaddle..relax..
you were a blip on the radar..its gone now..
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lol..i learned english from the english and ws speaking it before i spoke my native tongue..
i'm a published poet..
my english i assure you..is better than yours! :)
the rest is a futile backpaddle..relax..
you were a blip on the radar..its gone now..
Look dude... I'm hardly back peddling.. I was being honest with you... If you don't like it... it's your issue.
It's Back PEDDLING... running backwards... btw.
I'd love to see your published works... Oh, and since your English is so great, you'd know that you're supposed to capitalize the word "English".
Since it's a proper noun... ie, English language or English culture.
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you were a blip on the radar..its gone now..
HOLY CRAP1!! owned
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Since it's a proper noun... ie, English language or English culture.
< no i'm not sharing my poetry with you..lol this isn't a forum for sentisive mates to bond...i've shared it with someone who used to teach lit at the college level on here but thats about it>
as for capitalizing...pfft..i cant be bothered..
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HOLY CRAP1!! owned
Hardly.
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pfft..i cant be bothered..
My sentiments about you exactly...
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Hardly.
Let me be the judge of that brother ;)
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Only thing I don't like about the US and UK and eventually everybody else. Is the constant surveillance and monitoring of peoples positions where ever they are. Right now it seems like nothing eventually it will be (look at Israel - think they are the originators of this - makes sense if they were) I don't believe in the Illuminati conspiracy.
Paranoid fucker - no, it's not something that effects my life on a daily basis or even at all, eventually it will happen look what just happend in the UK.
Suspect Nation - watch this video I've posted it before (last time) Relates to TA's question
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4839556520925774502 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4839556520925774502)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCLu83rppmA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCLu83rppmA)
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i've watched that..good vid