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Title: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Secret Stack on September 17, 2011, 09:32:40 AM
"....but the black and blue bruising just came through now"

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/11-mr-olympia/3604-jay-cutler-interview-after-prejudging-and-wrap-up-with-ray-yates-wheeler-wolf-and-victor.html
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: jwb on September 17, 2011, 09:38:13 AM
A strain that added peak yeah right!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: greeneyes on September 17, 2011, 09:40:02 AM
It took him all this time to find this ridicule explication  ???
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: MAXX on September 17, 2011, 09:42:31 AM
A strain that added peak yeah right!
see Lee priest.

when bicep is torn of the shoulder it get shorter from the shoulder and gets a peak. dunno why its looks so big from the front though.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The_Iron_Disciple on September 17, 2011, 09:43:40 AM
Hahahahahahahaha !!! Jay's a genius ! :P :P
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Secret Stack on September 17, 2011, 09:45:00 AM
see Lee priest.

when bicep is torn of the shoulder it get shorter from the shoulder and gets a peak. dunno why its looks so big from the front though.

see lee priest? for what?

jay is claiming a "strain". lee's was a TEAR!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Benny B on September 17, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
Did you really think he'd say "I messed up my oil injection" like Nasser gh15 is stating on getbig?  ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Nails on September 17, 2011, 09:47:51 AM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhqrl6JT9t1qbw12jo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: mass243 on September 17, 2011, 10:03:48 AM
Dorian should learn to speak english  >:(
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 17, 2011, 10:15:46 AM
"....but the black and blue bruising just came through now"

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/contests/11-mr-olympia/3604-jay-cutler-interview-after-prejudging-and-wrap-up-with-ray-yates-wheeler-wolf-and-victor.html
His nose will be longer at the evening show...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: D_1000 on September 17, 2011, 10:30:44 AM
It's such blatant lying he is just making himself look bad.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Wiggs on September 17, 2011, 10:33:46 AM
Well what the fuck else is he going to say you fucking morons...Jeez, you want transparancy in a sport that uses illegal drugs. Aint gonna happen...get it through your heads.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Stavios on September 17, 2011, 10:44:40 AM
lol of course he won't say that but his explaination is simply stupid  ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: YoungBlood on September 17, 2011, 10:50:23 AM
Well what the fuck else is he going to say you fucking morons...Jeez, you want transparancy in a sport that uses illegal drugs. Aint gonna happen...get it through your heads.

At least spend more than the time it takes you to take a hit off a bong to make up a story that's somewhat believable! 3wks ago and it's just now showing up? Especially when he had a pic taken in the gym bathroom 48hrs ago where it's NOWHERE to be found nor is it found in any other pic leading up to last night. ::)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 11:16:55 AM
at least the bruising and any other signs of the injury didn't appear for the last 3 weeks of pre-contest pics.


This pic was taken on Sept 14th... 2 days before the major Pre-contest bruising.  No injury had shown yet.

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/Romulus32/jay.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 11:18:12 AM
jay is tired, i could see the defeat in his eyes. he will be sent into retirement and under housearrest
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Secret Stack on September 17, 2011, 11:20:40 AM
lol! how fuken quick did the mods delete my post here.

damn, im impressed! seriously. this thread is WATCHED!!!  :o
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: musclecenter on September 17, 2011, 11:21:44 AM
well said ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 11:22:46 AM
synthol bruise, hes desperate. hes afraid his little black gay friend will defeat him.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: bike nut on September 17, 2011, 11:24:42 AM
Jay Cutler's bicep strain excuse really pushes the limits of credulity. He should be shamed by the perv media that actually pays attention to the "sport".
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Secret Stack on September 17, 2011, 11:26:59 AM
well said ;D

it was you wasnt it taiwanese muscle man!  :D

i'm going to bump the thread on what i was talking about in my post before you deleted it.
what will you do then? delete the thread?  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Username222 on September 17, 2011, 11:33:51 AM
Well what the fuck else is he going to say you fucking morons...Jeez, you want transparancy in a sport that uses illegal drugs. Aint gonna happen...get it through your heads.

Lmao wiggs.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 11:34:39 AM
i rather have some transparancy in the thongs of the competitors. sausage fest here i comee
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 17, 2011, 11:37:11 AM
jay is tired, i could see the defeat in his eyes. he will be sent into retirement and under housearrest
maybe another competitor is psyching him out with mind games?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 11:38:13 AM
maybe another competitor is psyching him out with mind games?

maybe jays screams now with every pose.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: _bruce_ on September 17, 2011, 11:38:42 AM
Weak as a babyfart...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 11:44:05 AM
I'm sure he didn't really say the injury happened 3 weeks ago.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Secret Stack on September 17, 2011, 11:47:38 AM
I'm sure he didn't really say the injury happened 3 weeks ago.



no i made a mistake. it should read "2 weeks ago" in the thread title.

"it was a bicep strain from 2 weeks ago and the black and blue has only started to appear now"
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: jude2 on September 17, 2011, 11:49:17 AM
I'm sure he didn't really say the injury happened 3 weeks ago.


He said 2 weeks ago. Bullshit. We saw videos of him leading up to the final week no injury. :-\
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 11:50:30 AM
He said 2 weeks ago. Bullshit. We saw videos of him leading up to the final week no injury. :-\

Why would Jay Cutler lie?   I don't get it, I don't buy it.

And why did he keep the biceps injury (and any appearance of it) a secret while training hard in videos the last 2 weeks?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Dr Dutch on September 17, 2011, 11:51:26 AM
at least the bruising and any other signs of the injury didn't appear for the last 3 weeks of pre-contest pics.


This pic was taken on Sept 14th... 2 days before the major Pre-contest bruising.  No injury fucked up injection site had shown yet.
fixed
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Swlabr on September 17, 2011, 11:52:02 AM
I loved Dorian's little quip:

"Maybe it's not a tear guys, I don't know..." followed by a sly smile. They all know what's up. ;D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: jude2 on September 17, 2011, 12:22:59 PM
Why would Jay Cutler lie?   I don't get it, I don't buy it.

And why did he keep the biceps injury (and any appearance of it) a secret while training hard in videos the last 2 weeks?
He didn't keep the injury from anybody. His arms was fine a couple of days ago. ::) He has to lie. They all lie that is one thing gh15 is dead on about. Jay can't say well I hit a vein while injecting Nolotil or escilene in may arms to try to make up for their lack of size compared to Phil.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Tito24 on September 17, 2011, 12:26:16 PM
that haircut of cutler looks immature
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Secret Stack on September 17, 2011, 12:34:58 PM
True Lies.

With Arnie laughing at him.

lol.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Fischputza on September 17, 2011, 12:39:55 PM
....i still don't get it - ok, he might have fucked up the diuretic thing and seo, but how did he add  10" to his waist in 2 days?
or is the new trend chopped precontest-kitchen pics now?

they should judge the olympia in the kitchen - all the guys look waaayyyy better there.......
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Dorian01 on September 17, 2011, 12:40:41 PM
On the plus side, his legs grew back.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Hulkotron on September 17, 2011, 12:44:03 PM
....i still don't get it - ok, he might have fucked up the diuretic thing and seo, but how did he add  10" to his waist in 2 days?
or is the new trend chopped precontest-kitchen pics now?

they should judge the olympia in the kitchen - all the guys look waaayyyy better there.......

Dennis James is 10x kitchen Mr. O.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Boost on September 17, 2011, 12:45:53 PM
I lent MADMAX6 my copy of photoshop in order to keep the hype train alive.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: maxkane69 on September 17, 2011, 12:46:37 PM
....i still don't get it - ok, he might have fucked up the diuretic thing and seo, but how did he add  10" to his waist in 2 days?
or is the new trend chopped precontest-kitchen pics now?

they should judge the olympia in the kitchen - all the guys look waaayyyy better there.......

It is called :PRECONTEST-KITCHEN PHOTOSHOP PICS!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: D.O.U.P on September 17, 2011, 01:07:27 PM
at least the bruising and any other signs of the injury didn't appear for the last 3 weeks of pre-contest pics.


This pic was taken on Sept 14th... 2 days before the major Pre-contest bruising.  No injury had shown yet.

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/Romulus32/jay.jpg)

What the fuck happened in two days?!  This pic is PROOF that bodybuilding is 80% drugs (this includes quailty and response to hormones) 10% diet  10% training
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: TheTrueVictor on September 17, 2011, 02:22:01 PM
A strain that added peak yeah right!

My thoughts exactly. I mean, I'm not trying to bash Jay by any means, but if it was a synthol use gone bad then just say it.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: tendonitis on September 17, 2011, 02:23:29 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: jude2 on September 17, 2011, 02:24:32 PM
My thoughts exactly. I mean, I'm not trying to bash Jay by any means, but if it was a synthol use gone bad then just say it.
He will never say the truth, that he hit a vein. Muscletech and MD would drop him. MT would drop him so fast bc they have the new Mr O Phil.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: TheTrueVictor on September 17, 2011, 02:25:47 PM
Dorian Yates had a bicep tear just prior to the Olympia, right?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: dyslexic on September 17, 2011, 02:26:15 PM
Well what the fuck else is he going to say you fucking morons...Jeez, you want transparancy in a sport that uses illegal drugs. Aint gonna happen...get it through your heads.


Ditto.


I thought this was the accepted, underlying theme in this forum. After all, isn't this the reason Gh15 is so popular? Sure, a lot of folks don't like what he has to say, but this is exactly what he is always talking about.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: axestream on September 17, 2011, 02:27:06 PM
....i still don't get it - ok, he might have fucked up the diuretic thing and seo, but how did he add  10" to his waist in 2 days?
or is the new trend chopped precontest-kitchen pics now?

they should judge the olympia in the kitchen - all the guys look waaayyyy better there.......

Just because there's a fridge in it doesn't make it a kitchen.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Rami on September 17, 2011, 02:33:09 PM
He probably depleted, carbloaded, dropped water and sodium, ran diuretics since first pic. why change anything when looking that way 3 days out?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395354.0;attach=429394;image)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The Ugly on September 17, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
He probably depleted, carbloaded, dropped water and sodium, ran diuretics since first pic. why change anything when looking that way 3 days out?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395354.0;attach=429394;image)

This seems impossible. He went from sure thing to a sack of smashed assholes.

Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: HERACLES on September 17, 2011, 02:40:01 PM
at least the bruising and any other signs of the injury didn't appear for the last 3 weeks of pre-contest pics.


This pic was taken on Sept 14th... 2 days before the major Pre-contest bruising.  No injury had shown yet.

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r136/Romulus32/jay.jpg)

wow he looks so much better in that pic doesnt he?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The Ugly on September 17, 2011, 02:40:24 PM
And somewhere, a smashed asshole is offended by the comparison.

He looks that bad.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Stavios on September 17, 2011, 02:41:02 PM
I'm sure he didn't really say the injury happened 3 weeks ago.


;D

Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: HERACLES on September 17, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
any good pick of the bad bicep?

Im surprised he would do something stupid like synthol. Synthol looks fake and stupid. 
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Nails on September 17, 2011, 02:46:58 PM
He must have lost his supply connection of hydroxycut and muscletech ...
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: MB on September 17, 2011, 02:47:26 PM
Notice Dorian said a torn bicep would make the forearm and hand black and blue due to gravity.  It's crazy to think someone of Jay's caliber is so weak psychologically that he pulled a Nasser and Milos.  
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Rami on September 17, 2011, 02:50:04 PM
the most horrendous 2 day transformation ever
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Hulkotron on September 17, 2011, 02:57:03 PM
Jay will carb up for the night show and be fine.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: jude2 on September 17, 2011, 03:15:39 PM
any good pick of the bad bicep?

Im surprised he would do something stupid like synthol. Synthol looks fake and stupid. 
They use escilene or now nolotil before they go on stage. He did it in both arms, just hit a vein in the left.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: RC Money on September 17, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
Jay Cutler's bicep strain excuse really pushes the limits of credulity. He should be shamed by the perv media that actually pays attention to the "sport".
Yeah I like Jay, but his credulity took a serious hit amirite???
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: johnny1 on September 17, 2011, 05:33:22 PM
....i still don't get it - ok, he might have fucked up the diuretic thing and seo, but how did he add  10" to his waist in 2 days?
or is the new trend chopped precontest-kitchen pics now?

they should judge the olympia in the kitchen - all the guys look waaayyyy better there.......
I called it his waist in that 2 day out pic was SHOPPED blatant and obvious
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 05:40:23 PM
I called it his waist in that 2 day out pic was SHOPPED blatant and obvious

the pic is very different, and upon review, does appear to completely lack obliques.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 17, 2011, 05:50:21 PM
I called it his waist in that 2 day out pic was SHOPPED blatant and obvious
X100
Cutlets waist hasn't looked like that since 2001
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Nails on September 17, 2011, 05:55:51 PM
so if its a Bicep Strain from 3 weeks ago... ( ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ) Then we should put the blame on Hany Rambod and his fst-7 training  ??? ???
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 05:56:00 PM
who posted the false pic that johnny1 identified?  


just some message board slob, right,  I'm sure no industry figure would fake us like that?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Alpine on September 17, 2011, 05:56:46 PM
UPDATED STORY
Hany Rambod is now saying it was a partial bi tear at a MT photo shoot 2 weeks ago. Not 3 as Jay said before? :-\
http://www.flexonline.com/news/olympia/interview-dennis-james-and-hany-rambod

VERY good damage control, but I dont know if I'm buying it. Either way, hes got synthol in his left bi whether its becaause it was lagging along with his left delt or to compensate and balance out an injured bi.

(http://contests.flexonline.com/images/contests/39/large/190392.jpg)
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 17, 2011, 05:58:00 PM
I wonder what Gh15 wi have to say about 'philsulina' winning
I lime gh15 but heaths muscle all looks real and quality to me
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: jude2 on September 17, 2011, 06:01:46 PM
I wonder what Gh15 wi have to say about 'philsulina' winning
I lime gh15 but heaths muscle all looks real and quality to me
He has been saying alot. He says Phil is the best of what is on the stage.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 06:02:08 PM
Wow, Hany is now giving us the same story.  Interesting!
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The Ugly on September 17, 2011, 06:07:20 PM
Wow, Hany is now giving us the same story.  Interesting!

Which same story. Biceps strain or delt tear?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 06:08:46 PM
Which same story. Biceps strain or delt tear?

Hernon said it was a shoulder issue.
Hany said it was a biceps TEAR, THREE weeks ago.
Jay said it was a biceps STRAIN, TWO weeks ago.

Many at the show think it was an injection gone awry, but Jay/Hany probably know better, right?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Alpine on September 17, 2011, 06:09:11 PM
Wow, Hany is now giving us the same story.  Interesting!

Almost the same. He said 2 weeks, Jay said 3. You're surprised his trainer is doing some damage control? You would have thought the stories would be identical. As I said, whether he tore it or not, he's got synthol in the left bi.

Updated


Hernon said it was a shoulder issue.
Hany said it was a biceps TEAR, THREE weeks ago.
Jay said it was a biceps STRAIN, TWO weeks ago.

Many at the show think it was an injection gone awry, but Jay/Hany probably know better, right?

There you go...well almost ;)

We have Hernon saying early on it was a shoulder issue.  Jay then said it was a biceps STRAIN, 3 weeks ago.  Hany said it was a biceps TEAR, 2 weeks ago. I think that's right. Hany's damage control was the best but they need to get their shit straight.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 06:10:19 PM
Surely we'll have bob explaining "message board conspiracy theorists" behind the "mix up".

???
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The Ugly on September 17, 2011, 06:13:35 PM
But no bruising until the night of the big show?

How stupid are we?
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 17, 2011, 06:15:06 PM
But no bruising until the night of the big show?

It's incredible.   Slow-release bruising. 

Dorian yates didn't have that kind of determination.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: Alpine on September 17, 2011, 06:16:25 PM
But no bruising until the night of the big show?

How stupid are we?

Another GetBig Gumshoe. Well done detective.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: The Ugly on September 17, 2011, 06:21:46 PM
Another GetBig Gumshoe. Well done detective.

Cruel and uncalled for.
Title: Re: Jay Cutler interview - "it was a bicep strain from 3 weeks ago..."
Post by: 240 is Back on September 06, 2013, 08:05:04 AM
;D