Author Topic: Architects & Engineers - Solving the Mystery of WTC 7 (Read 66561 times)

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #100 on:** August 30, 2011, 10:15:58 PM »

Quote from: Agnostic007 on August 29, 2011, 07:36:15 AM

It just doesn't work that way. Plus, your source is a friend of a friend... not very compelling

If he said it was his father or cousin, it could mean people's jobs or lives.

jwb · « **Reply #101 on:** August 30, 2011, 10:20:35 PM »

Quote from: quadzilla456 on August 30, 2011, 10:04:06 PM

I have news for you, all skyscrapers have reinforced concrete cores. What the hell do you think the elevator shafts are? All the WTC towers had a shit load of elevator shafts. And in most 50 stories plus skyscrapers the floor structure consists of steel trusses or steel beams. Including the Empire State Building. These steel trusses or beams then tie into the concrete core. WTC 7 was no different.

And WTC 1 / 2 below. Those are concrete cores buddy.

Did the Madrid building have large planes fly into its concrete core?

You think the Madrid building would not have collapsed if the fire was way down on the 5th floor and not fought at all by firefighters? It was fought like crazy for a whole day and part of it still came down.

Jack T. Cross · « **Reply #102 on:** August 30, 2011, 11:26:30 PM »

On September 10, 2001, Donald Rumsfeld announced a "war on waste" after an internal audit found that the Pentagon was "missing" 2.3 trillion dollars in unaccounted assets. It had the potential to be one of the biggest stories in decades.

On September 11th, it was as good as forgotten.

tbombz · « **Reply #103 on:** August 30, 2011, 11:41:34 PM »

anyone who believes it was an inside job should read spying blind by amy zegart and richard clarkes against all enemies.

Vince B · « **Reply #104 on:** August 31, 2011, 12:24:54 AM »

The test of truth here is to obtain the original videos and not watch something on the net. Only then will you be able to see if other objects were in the frames.

We have no guarantee that any video we have is the original. Thus, conspiracy theories will proliferate and 'evidence' will be presented as proof. I remain unconvinced.

Some people know the truth but the Flotsam have no clue whatever. I would hate to think they come to Getbig for illumination!

jwb · « **Reply #105 on:** August 31, 2011, 12:41:35 AM »

Or we could use common sense and believe the 3 year investigation using the best computer models by the NIST.

People who think all these professionals lied need think for a minute. Since 2008 when the report was done there is bound to be some people who have left employment there under bad circumstances (they got the fired) yet nobody has come forward saying the results were a fraud.

Shit they even had the balls to say their first theories were incorrect on wtc7.

Parker · « **Reply #106 on:** August 31, 2011, 12:48:38 AM »

The Explosion plumes look like a Wolf or fox atop a two chickens

Vince B · « **Reply #107 on:** August 31, 2011, 01:14:20 AM »

Those who watched the TV news live at the time will never forget that morning. It was late at night in Sydney. You can see buildings collapse with smoke and dust but among that debris

were human beings. Humans were in those planes that hit the two towers. Workers were inside the building. Firefighters and police were doing their best and many lost their lives. People were jumping from the top

when there was too much heat and no hope of being rescued. It was really a dreadful, gut-wrenching thing to watch. It left scars in millions of people around the world.

jr · « **Reply #108 on:** August 31, 2011, 02:25:11 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 30, 2011, 03:52:22 PM

watch bottom right of screeen lol... you think there's debate about the collapse? what about the object from above right as plane #2 hits? lol

It is probably a bird flying past close to the camera. The bird is not in focus so it is burred.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #109 on:** August 31, 2011, 06:31:37 AM »

Quote from: jwb on August 30, 2011, 03:41:53 PM

The thing is neither Osama or Bush if he was in on it (wanting a war) needed any buildings to fall that day to achieve what they wanted.

The planes going into the towers and killing many many people was enough of a result to achieve their goals.

Osama had no idea the buildings would fall and he didn't care he just wanted them to get hit.

I think destroying the buildings in a grandiose manner was necessary.

Thespritz0 · « **Reply #110 on:** August 31, 2011, 10:35:04 AM »

Quote from: quadzilla456 on August 27, 2011, 10:59:36 PM

WOW is all I can say after watching this!

^^^^
NO ONE notice on the screen- B A S I L E?

Jack T. Cross · « **Reply #111 on:** August 31, 2011, 10:36:38 AM »

In one day, we went from being a country unconcerned with pursuing obvious foreign hijackers to a country that nixes the most basic and fundamental rights we were once "guaranteed".

How convenient.

240 is Back · « **Reply #112 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:07:26 AM »

Quote from: jr on August 31, 2011, 02:25:11 AM

It is probably a bird flying past close to the camera. The bird is not in focus so it is burred.

That "bird" showed up on multiple angles, took a chunk out of the side of the building, and landed in WTC6 and caused a giant crater.

helluva bird!

240 is Back · « **Reply #113 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:10:18 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on August 30, 2011, 11:41:34 PM

anyone who believes it was an inside job should read spying blind by amy zegart and richard clarkes against all enemies.

clarke = 30 year loyal govt employee who didn't get a slap on the wrist for gross negligence on 911... nobody did.

Then he promptly retired, got a job for a thinktank, and got rich rich rich !!!! $$$.

IMO, not exactly the most objective voice. In fact, if you were writing a book about a ficticious 911, you'd probably enlist a govt tool lifer to facilitate the days' events, then allow him to retire without disgrace and get rich a year after the event.

Nails · « **Reply #114 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:17:49 AM »

Its amazing how people can see the video and still not question it.... We are all pawns in THEIR chess game.

after 10 years

Your already picked your side of the controversy and won't be switching teams no matter what

240 is Back · « **Reply #115 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:19:55 AM »

I realized today, it's like arguing who will win the 2075 Super Bowl.

We'll all either be long gone, or crapping in diaper senile, by the time anything comes to light.

But we sure do love to argue about whether teams we're not sure wil/do even exist are superior.

Pointless, really. Whatever happened, they got away with it. Let's focus on the 2011 Olympia - shit that is still highly relevant today!

Jack T. Cross · « **Reply #116 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:23:02 AM »

The loose threads on this thing are just incredible. In nature and in number. Just fucking incredible.

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #117 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:25:23 AM »

The biggest proof the gov't at least new about this was the fact the 9/11 commision wanted to interview Bush and Cheney separately yet they refused to and said they would only testify together at the same time and then anything they did divulge was put into secret hell by Bush using his presidential power in sealing that document forever. WTF were they hiding?

Then the followup. A week earlier the US was low on soldier recruits willing to go to war the next day they had to turn down wannabe recruits as they were getting overwhelmed and then Bush ordered the Iraq war. At the same time a 200,000 Department of Homeland security was created with all of Bush's crony friends. There is no way the DHS gets formed if they tried a week earlier but 9/11 was their ticket.

My theory. The gov't didn't do this, but they knew about it and let it happen, maybe even pushed those guys in the right direction.

240 is Back · « **Reply #118 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:28:37 AM »

LOL @ other nations being alerted in summer 2001 that we'd be invading Afghanistan in mid-october 2001.

Invasion started... oct 18th?

LOL @ us spending a year slowly setting up ships in Gulf beforehand.

LOL @ Taleban accepting $43 million in cash from USA in summer 01, welching on the contract, and turning over drilling rights to a firm from Argentinia instead.

LOL @ people who claim they know that the hell happened. Nobody does. Truthers/skeptics don't know, and those reciting the official story - something its author even calls a "whitewash" - are equally stupid. We'll never know. Team Clueless!

RustyTrenbolona · « **Reply #119 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:30:35 AM »

StanZoLOL · « **Reply #120 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:38:59 AM »

CIT's stuff on the Pentagon attack is pretty interesting.

jwb · « **Reply #121 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:46:42 AM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on August 31, 2011, 06:31:37 AM

I think destroying the buildings in a grandiose manner was necessary.

bullshit.

Osama knew the planes wouldn't destroy the entire pentagon yet he still had one fly into the side of it and many people died.

He wanted 4 planes to crash into SYMBOLS of America to make his point. One of the missions failed and ended up in a field so he only had a 75% success rate.

It's the difference between a girl getting raped then murdered or just raped. Either way she still got fucked...

240 is Back · « **Reply #122 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:50:36 AM »

Quote from: jwb on August 31, 2011, 11:46:42 AM

One of the missions failed and ended up in a field

Since you opened that box...

debris spread over 8 miles... US claims we didn't shoot it down. Lie?

Jack T. Cross · « **Reply #123 on:** August 31, 2011, 11:56:10 AM »

No offense to the "officials" in this case regarding Flight 93, but I'll take the seismic records as fact. They differed by three full minutes.

Nails · « **Reply #124 on:** August 31, 2011, 12:02:11 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on August 31, 2011, 11:50:36 AM

Since you opened that box...

debris spread over 8 miles... US claims we didn't shoot it down. Lie?

Jwb will say the plane was brought down by the brave passangers just like reported... and when it crashed it blew up to a trillion pieces that's why you cant see any remaining parts of it on the field

Jwb... How was it family members were making phone calls on their cells phones while in the air

i had/have forgotten to turn my phone of at times on a plane and notice i NEVER have any reception until i land... how was this possible