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Unbelievable. Trump's own spokesman saying Trump won't be willing to do all of the job as president. Perhaps the VP choice is MORE important than the prez pick on the republican side? He doesn't want this job.
Also he said no minority or woman will be chosen, as that'd be seen as "pandering". Illegal to exclude women/minority from a job before even starting interviews? LOL. unreal.
Paul Manafort, a controversial Republican lobbyist, joined Donald Trump’s team in late March, and at least initially, his task was to help oversee delegate recruiting. It wasn’t long, however, before Manafort worked his way up to effectively running the entire operation: less than two months after joining the campaign, he’s now Trump’s campaign chairman and chief strategist.
Yesterday, Manafort sat down with the Huffington Post’s Howard Fineman for a fairly long interview, and while the two covered quite a bit of ground, there was one exchange in particular that stood out for me.
The vice presidential pick will also be part of the process of proving he’s ready for the White House, Manafort said.
“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”
This is no small acknowledgement. For months, it’s been clear that Trump has no meaningful understanding of public policy or even how government works at a basic level. By any fair measure, his ignorance and incompetence about affairs of state is unlike anything Americans have ever seen in a major-party presidential candidate. The question has long been when we can expect Trump to get up to speed.
And the answer is, he has no intention of doing any such thing. Day-to-governing and overseeing the executive branch apparently represent “the part of the job he doesn’t want to do.”
President Trump, in other words, would prefer to be more of a big-picture kind of guy who isn’t overly concerned about details and roll-up-your-sleeves kind of work.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/there-are-presidential-duties-trump-doesnt-want-do
We should not, however, expect to see diversity on the Republican ticket. Choosing a woman or a member of a minority group to run as vice president, Manafort said, “would be viewed as pandering, I think.”
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It will be total chaos and mayhem
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It will be total chaos and mayhem
think of the magnitude of what happened.
his national spokesman dropped TWO bombshells.
1) We aren't even considering any women or minorities for veep
Illegal as shit? 1920s thinking for sure. Lack of common sense to even admit this.
2) He doesn't want to do everything in the job description, he will outsource all these things to the veep
Unreal. Just unreal. Can ANYONE defend these 2 statements?
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think of the magnitude of what happened.
his national spokesman dropped TWO bombshells.
1) We aren't even considering any women or minorities for veep
Illegal as shit? 1920s thinking for sure. Lack of common sense to even admit this.
2) He doesn't want to do everything in the job description, he will outsource all these things to the veep
Unreal. Just unreal. Can ANYONE defend these 2 statements?
He sounds like the perfect candidate for the stupid party
Seriously, he is the perfect candidate for the modern day Republican Party
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Can Hillary perform duties from prison while turning tricks in return for protection?
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Can Hillary perform duties from prison while turning tricks in return for protection?
looks like you're back on track to ruining this board yet again and you have 240 to help you this time
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looks like you're back on track to ruining this board yet again and you have 240 to help you this time
if anything, 240 + SC will be the ones that correctly realized Trump was only doing this to get hilary elected. And at this point, he's doing everything he can to tank.
Has it sunk in? "We don't even plan on LOOKING at a minority or female for veep". NOBODY is that stupid. NOBODY says that accidentally.
"Trump doesn't plan on doing all the prez duties, he's more of a big picture guy, the veep will do all the heavy lifting" = NOBODY is that stupid accidentally.
He brought on this dude to TRY to lose. We see it, you do not.
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Trump adviser: Trump wants a white male vice president to do all the presidenting he won't do
The vice presidential pick will also be part of the process of proving he’s ready for the White House, Manafort said.
“He needs an experienced person to do the part of the job he doesn’t want to do. He seems himself more as the chairman of the board, than even the CEO, let alone the COO.”
“There is a long list of who that person could be,” Manafort added, “and every one of them has major problems.”
The campaign probably won’t choose a woman or a member of a minority group, he said. “In fact, that would be viewed as pandering, I think.”
MORE:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-paul-manafort-general-election_us_574619eee4b0dacf7ad3e201?vqp8pvi
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/5/26/1531171/-Trump-adviser-Trump-wants-a-white-male-vice-president-to-do-all-the-presidenting-he-won-t-do
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if anything, 240 + SC will be the ones that correctly realized Trump was only doing this to get hilary elected. And at this point, he's doing everything he can to tank.
Has it sunk in? "We don't even plan on LOOKING at a minority or female for veep". NOBODY is that stupid. NOBODY says that accidentally.
"Trump doesn't plan on doing all the prez duties, he's more of a big picture guy, the veep will do all the heavy lifting" = NOBODY is that stupid accidentally.
He brought on this dude to TRY to lose. We see it, you do not.
referring to yourself in the 3rd person now?
Trump has been mocking Crooked Hillary for not being able to "put away" Bernie (he's obviously doing this to help her)
Weird that he wouldn't take this easy opportunity to make Bernie look like a fool. What better way to help her than to help knock off her actual opponent for the Democratic nomination
Trump has done hundreds if not thousands of interviews since he announced his candidacy. It bizarre that not a single person has bothered to ask him the obvious question about whether he is just running to help Hillary get elected.
I wonder why not a single person has asked him that question when it's so obvious to totally sane people like you and 333
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Weird that he wouldn't take this easy opportunity to make Bernie look like a fool. What better way to help her than to help knock off her actual opponent for the Democratic nomination
Debating Bernie would not be easy for Trump. 75 minutes of speaking time on POLICY, and Trump may be exposed as really thin on issues. And that only boosts bernie against Hilary, which isn't good for trump, who admits "I want to face hilary!"
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Debating Bernie would not be easy for Trump. 75 minutes of speaking time on POLICY, and Trump may be exposed as really thin on issues. And that only boosts bernie against Hilary, which isn't good for trump, who admits "I want to face hilary!"
I knew you would have an excuse for why he offered to debate Bernie and then ran away.
Doesn't that also help Bernie?
What's your excuse for why not a single person has asked Trump if he is only running to help Hillary?
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he agreed because he's not all that good under pressure and thinking on his feet.
and he's impulsive - he jumps on things to get cheers without thinking thru the ramifications.
He agreed on the spot because he wanted to be the big man, willing to raise 2, no wait, TEN million for some womens charity or whatever he said. When the $ offer arrived quickly, and his team explained to him what'd happen... he backed out.
That's dangerous in a president.
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Tell me how this is different from Obama? Obama admitted in an interview he was lazy. The one thing he was actually right about.
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Tell me how this is different from Obama? Obama admitted in an interview he was lazy. The one thing he was actually right about.
so america should elect another obama? LOL! sorry, but telling us trump's just as bad as obama doesn't help things.
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so america should elect another obama? LOL! sorry, but telling us trump's just as bad as obama doesn't help things.
Who said he would be another Obama? Did they say which duties? No one could fuck it up as bad he is.
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he agreed because he's not all that good under pressure and thinking on his feet.
and he's impulsive - he jumps on things to get cheers without thinking thru the ramifications.
He agreed on the spot because he wanted to be the big man, willing to raise 2, no wait, TEN million for some womens charity or whatever he said. When the $ offer arrived quickly, and his team explained to him what'd happen... he backed out.
That's dangerous in a president.
for the 3rd time: What's your excuse for why not a single person has asked Trump if he is only running to help Hillary?
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Straw, why doesn't the media ask fuck-all when it comes to meaningful questions?
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Straw, why doesn't the media ask fuck-all when it comes to meaningful questions?
a candidate for POTUS who is allegedly secretly running only to help the other parties candidate and NO ONE wants to ask that question to either candidate
Any chance no one is asking it because it's fucking idiotic and they would look like morons asking that question
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a candidate for POTUS who is allegedly secretly running only to help the other parties candidate and NO ONE wants to ask that question to either candidate
Any chance no one is asking it because it's fucking idiotic and they would look like morons asking that question
Someone could sit Trump down and find out exactly what he's up to. But if you expect the media clan to do it, you might as well forget it.
So it ain't gonna happen, at least not now. Maybe that card is being held for the future. But the fact that a single, lone result can be expected from Trump fucking it off -- meaning Hilary getting her way -- is undeniable.
You can't say it isn't a valid concern. If you like Hilary, though, maybe it's an acceptable price to pay IYO.
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Someone could sit Trump down and find out exactly what he's up to. But if you expect the media clan to do it, you might as well forget it.
So it ain't gonna happen, at least not now. Maybe that card is being held for the future. But the fact that a single, lone result can be expected from Trump fucking it off -- meaning Hilary getting her way -- is undeniable.
You can't say it isn't a valid concern. If you like Hilary, though, maybe it's an acceptable price to pay IYO.
sure I can and I have
It fucking moronic
This would be the biggest story on the planet yet you want to believe that the media chooses to ignore it (the media that competes for eyeballs and rating EVERY DAY)
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sure I can and I have
It fucking moronic
This would be the biggest story on the planet yet you want to believe that the media chooses to ignore it (the media that competes for eyeballs and rating EVERY DAY)
No. You don't see it as valid for yourself, only because you want Hilary to be our next president.
And thinking the media is a fact-finding operation, is where your logic fails. Wishful thinking is what it is, and can't say I don't join you in wishing it were true.
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Btw, the idea that media makes "ratings" the number one goal, isn't valid. Look on the 9/11 thread and you will find things they could achieve ratings to the fucking stratosphere by investigating and reporting.
No, they want to cause you (and me) to think a certain way. That's the true goal.
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No. You don't see it as valid for yourself, only because you want Hilary to be our next president.
And thinking the media is a fact-finding operation, is where your logic fails. Wishful thinking is what it is, and can't say I don't join you in wishing it were true.
I've listed all the reasons why I think its fucking ridiculous MANY TIMES on this board
Still no answer on why everyone in the media (all of whom are searching for a big scoop and ratings) would ignore the biggest story on the planet and probably the biggest story in the history of modern american politics
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I've listed all the reasons why I think its fucking ridiculous MANY TIMES on this board
Still no answer on why everyone in the media (all of whom are searching for a big scoop and ratings) would ignore the biggest story on the planet and probably the biggest story in the history of modern american politics
They aren't, though. That's not what they're up to. If we had a healthy free press, the very first thing they'd do is look to exceed one another. But we don't, and they don't.
You need to understand, as well, that it could be something so simple as Trump having an idea and taking a first step with it. That's it. All what we've seen, could very well come from something so trivial as that.
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But Hilary supporters will take great offense at the thought she's not in some "epic battle" for her power.
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They aren't, though. That's not what they're up to. If we had a healthy free press, the very first thing they'd do is look to exceed one another. But we don't, and they don't.
You need to understand, as well, that it could be something so simple as Trump having an idea and taking a first step with it. That's it. All what we've seen, could very well come from something so trivial as that.
horseshit
now you're saying the media doesn't want/need ratings nor interested in being the outlet to get the scoop of the century
LOL
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horseshit
now you're saying the media doesn't want/need ratings nor interested in being the outlet to get the scoop of the century
LOL
At the expense of a failure to lead people in a certain manner? Nope, not at all. That's exactly what I'm telling you. Those two things are no comparison in reward. And when you can so easily predict what your "competition" will and won't do, it should be quite easy.
There's all the incentive in the world for the media to be this way, too, as long as you're wealthy enough to play. It's one big lie to the rest of us, though, and it is better ignored.
By the way, exactly which source would you expect to be researched in order to produce a story as this (if reality were so skewed as to allow it, IYO).
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At the expense of a failure to lead people in a certain manner? Nope, not at all. That's exactly what I'm telling you. Those two things are no comparison in reward. And when you can so easily predict what your "competition" will and won't do, it should be quite easy.
There's all the incentive in the world for the media to be this way, too, as long as you're wealthy enough to play. It's one big lie to the rest of us, though, and it is better ignored.
By the way, exactly which source would you expect to be researched in order to produce a story as this (if reality were so skewed as to allow it, IYO).
LOL - now the ENTIRE MEDIA is in on the conspiracy?
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LOL - now the ENTIRE MEDIA is in on the conspiracy?
What "conspiracy" are you talking about? The idea that Trump is looking to lose?
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What "conspiracy" are you talking about? The idea that Trump is looking to lose?
no
that Trump's candidacy is a vehicle created to help Hillary become POTUS
is that not that your premise (or 240's premise which you agree?)
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no
that Trump's candidacy is a vehicle created to help Hillary become POTUS
is that not that your premise (or 240's premise which you agree?)
If he's not serious about winning, then that's precisely what it is.
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While it does sound extremely unbelievable and completely ridiculous.
Do you think any actual candidate that wants to win a national election in this country would run a campaign like this?
I admit that the republicans to some extent have done this to themselves, but really, I know people think Trump can win, but with this amount of ridiculous?
It's just not realistic in today's world. Right?
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While it does sound extremely unbelievable and completely ridiculous.
Do you think any actual candidate that wants to win a national election in this country would run a campaign like this?
I admit that the republicans to some extent have done this to themselves, but really, I know people think Trump can win, but with this amount of ridiculous?
It's just not realistic in today's world. Right?
It is far from realistic, I do believe.
He knows what causes him to steer toward CiC-level power and what causes him to retreat from that. That fact cannot be denied.
Personally, I'm willing to see how he handles it going forward. I don't want GWB III (Hilary) in there, and that is my top priority when it comes to this race.
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You can be sure people are battling to have Trump's ear, right now. They want to get to him and cause him to see things their way. So whatever becomes of that, we may be forced to live with.
Some of the people doing that, are frightening. They will lead him astray.
So in that sense, you could see how people may hope he doesn't intend to win. But that means Hilary will,, of course.
We're doomed to destruct, either way, if that is the case.. This may be God's way of ending the nation.
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Maybe it's just time to blow the place up and start over.
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Maybe it's just time to blow the place up and start over.
I'm just so terribly sorry to say, but it seems we're in a very tough spot.
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One thing I noticed, is that Trump seems on the verge of saying 9/11 must be investigated. If you look at what he's said on it, I can't see how he'd believe otherwise. So when you see him hanging with someone like Alex Jones (the biggest source of misleading info on the subject) it makes you wonder why and how that relationship developed and exactly what will result from it.
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While it does sound extremely unbelievable and completely ridiculous.
Do you think any actual candidate that wants to win a national election in this country would run a campaign like this?
I admit that the republicans to some extent have done this to themselves, but really, I know people think Trump can win, but with this amount of ridiculous?
It's just not realistic in today's world. Right?
I think it would only work for Trump because he's being completely authentic. When his challengers tried to act like him it just blew up in their face. They couldn't do it because it wasn't who they really were
the way he's run his campaign is completely consistent with the way he's conducted himself throughout his entire life
It's totally consistent and authentic and it enabled him to the the dominant front runner from almost the first day he announced (remember he kicked it off by suggesting all mexican immigrants were rapists, criminals etc..)
From Day 1 he tapped into the disenfranchised, low information voter, looking for a charismatic father figure to tell them he's going to make everything all right again (i.e. make America great again)
He was out here in CA last week saying there was no drought and his idiot followers in the audience cheered enthusiastically after this blatantly false statement. If anyone else did that they would have been laughed off the stage but somehow it works for Trump.
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If he's not serious about winning, then that's precisely what it is.
he sure isn't acting serious about winning.
He tells cali there isn't actually a drought, a week before their primary lol.
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While it does sound extremely unbelievable and completely ridiculous.
Do you think any actual candidate that wants to win a national election in this country would run a campaign like this?
Huck and Ben Carson both ran campaigns to sell books, get on FOX, and collect mailing addresses of conservative zealots that they'll use to make $ from the next two decades.
Remember, Carson was #1 in the polls for a few days - he immediately halted ALL campaigning for a WEEK, invested ZERO in the national infrastructure of the upcoming states, and went on a book signing tour, even visiting my shitty florida town, which is packed with old mccain voters.
People DO run because they want other things, and a high profile "run" is something that delivers that. If there's ANYONE who is acting like that - trying to piss people off intentionally that he'll need later - It's Trump.
Everyone should watch the Richard Pryor movie "Brewsters Millions" - PRECISELY what Trump is doing. The dude TRIES to throw a campaign and it's harder than you think.
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he sure isn't acting serious about winning.
He tells cali there isn't actually a drought, a week before their primary lol.
Not acting like he's serious about winning?
That's what everyone said as he was winning primary after primary
His comment about the drought is apparently just what his moronic followers want to hear
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While it does sound extremely unbelievable and completely ridiculous.
Do you think any actual candidate that wants to win a national election in this country would run a campaign like this?
I admit that the republicans to some extent have done this to themselves, but really, I know people think Trump can win, but with this amount of ridiculous?
It's just not realistic in today's world. Right?
If polls are any gauge, it's not only realistic, it's quite possible.
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If polls are any gauge, it's not only realistic, it's quite possible.
I don't think it's as close as these polls make it to be.
At least it shouldn't be.
Shows how weak of a candidate and overall disliked Hillary Clinton actually is.