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Alabama - Does anyone want to see a low scoring rerun? Looks like an under 25 game
OSU - LSU offense can be anemic, and OSU can score. Looks like an over 50 game.
In 2003 LSU head coach Nick Saban said any team that does not win their conference does not deserve to play in the BCS title game.
In 2006 Florida head coach Urban Meyer said Michigan did not deserve a rematch against Ohio St. because they already had their chance to win.
Basically, past SEC coaches have said Bama should not get a 2nd shot at LSU.
Also, if LSU loses to Bama, it's said that LSU could argue for Co-NCs because the series would be tied 1-1.
What's the point of LSU vs Bama again???
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It's simple, because Bama and LSU are the two best teams in the country by far. Either would spank the sh$t out of OSU. Bama has 1 loss in OT to the #1 team in the country. OSU has one loss to I think Iowa State? Whoever it was, is a no name 3rd tier team who if OSU is so great should've thoroughly destroyed. BUT, I think OSU will get the nod. They are a sexier team than Bama, and they will get a huge jump in votes. But LSU will treat them like a red headed step child. It won't even be close.
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It's simple, because Bama and LSU are the two best teams in the country by far. Either would spank the sh$t out of OSU. Bama has 1 loss in OT to the #1 team in the country. OSU has one loss to I think Iowa State? Whoever it was, is a no name 3rd tier team who if OSU is so great should've thoroughly destroyed. BUT, I think OSU will get the nod. They are a sexier team than Bama, and they will get a huge jump in votes. But LSU will treat them like a red headed step child. It won't even be close.
The issue is if LSU loses to Bama they are still saying LSU could be a Co-National Champ. What's the point of the game? I think if LSU's offense catches fire, they'd walk through Bama but that's a big "if".
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Great offense vs great defense.
Game on, bitches.
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The issue is if LSU loses to Bama they are still saying LSU could be a Co-National Champ. What's the point of the game? I think if LSU's offense catches fire, they'd walk through Bama but that's a big "if".
Florida's vote is holding everything up, again....
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It's time for a recount. :D
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The issue is if LSU loses to Bama they are still saying LSU could be a Co-National Champ. What's the point of the game? I think if LSU's offense catches fire, they'd walk through Bama but that's a big "if".
The BCS CG was created as a plus one game only. Part of the theory is that the regular season games are wiped clean once #1 and #2 are put in the championship game and its winner take all. If Bama and LSU played 10 times, it would probably be a 5-5 split. If LSU/Bama played OSU 10 times, I would bet a 2-8 split at best. So I think saying that LSU won the first game with Bama is a bit of a narrow view. People forget Bama missed 4 FG's and had an interception at the 1 that could of went either way. I'm no Bama guy either, but the two best teams need to play, and OSU simply is not one of them.
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Great offense vs great defense.
Game on, bitches.
Arkansas's offense is OSU's offense pretty much. And look what Bama and LSU did to them. Hell, look at what LSU did to Oregan at the beginning of the season. That is a prolific offense that got thumped big time. And most would say Bama has a slightly better defense than LSU.
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Alabama - Does anyone want to see a low scoring rerun? Looks like an under 25 game
OSU - LSU offense can be anemic, and OSU can score. Looks like an over 50 game.
In 2003 LSU head coach Nick Saban said any team that does not win their conference does not deserve to play in the BCS title game.
In 2006 Florida head coach Urban Meyer said Michigan did not deserve a rematch against Ohio St. because they already had their chance to win.
Basically, past SEC coaches have said Bama should not get a 2nd shot at LSU.
Also, if LSU loses to Bama, it's said that LSU could argue for Co-NCs because the series would be tied 1-1.
What's the point of LSU vs Bama again???
if OSU is left out of the National Chamionship it will be a crime, how can you have a team that didnt even win its SUB CONFERENCE let alone win its CONFERENCE in the title game, the BCS game should be LSU vs. Oklahoma State, case closed.
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lsu would shut down OS state the same way they shut down oregon then simply over power them the same way they did oregon.
bring on bama vs lsu.
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lsu would shut down OS state the same way they shut down oregon then simply over power them the same way they did oregon.
bring on bama vs lsu.
maybe, maybe not, thats why they play the games, shit Appalachian State beat Michigan a few years ago and LSU OSU is a lot more realistic a matchup than that, lets find out whos best, the best of the SEC or the best of the Big 12.
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lsu would shut down OS state the same way they shut down oregon then simply over power them the same way they did oregon.
bring on bama vs lsu.
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maybe, maybe not, thats why they play the games, shit Appalachian State beat Michigan a few years ago and LSU OSU is a lot more realistic a matchup than that, lets find out whos best, the best of the SEC or the best of the Big 12.
Michigan ...seriously...you are comparing LSU to michigan that year they lost. lol wow.
BCS ranks the best two teams....about 6 undefeated teams LOST when all they had to do was WIN the past couple weeks...they allowed bama to get a rematch.
I see no problem with LSU vs BAMA rematch. Bring it on. I don't need to see OkSt get demolished.
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yes...this shit again..stop hating. Not like big 10 gonna stop LSU. LOL
oh and I'm predicting if LSU wins this year...Les is going to Michigan. Mark it down.
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Michigan ...seriously...you are comparing LSU to michigan that year they lost. lol wow.
BCS ranks the best two teams....about 6 undefeated teams LOST when all they had to do was WIN the past couple weeks...they allowed bama to get a rematch.
I see no problem with LSU vs BAMA rematch. Bring it on. I don't need to see OkSt get demolished.
Ok State would NOT get demolished i can promise you that.
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yes...this shit again..stop hating. Not like big 10 gonna stop LSU. LOL
oh and I'm predicting if LSU wins this year...Les is going to Michigan. Mark it down.
Hi Herby. :D
I still cannot figure out what App. State beating Michigan has anything to do with this years National Title game. ??? The year that Michigan got beat by App. State is the same year that Michigan went down to Florida and beat Florida with Tim Tebag, percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes,..etc and beat their asses.
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Hi Herby. :D
I still cannot figure out what App. State beating Michigan has anything to do with this years National Title game. ??? The year that Michigan got beat by App. State is the same year that Michigan went down to Florida and beat Florida with Tim Tebag, percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes,..etc and beat their asses.
i didnt mean it in realtion to the title game i was just using it in context to anything can happen, mark my words, Ok State would not get destroyed by LSU, it would be a great match up.
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Ok State would NOT get demolished i can promise you that.
ok sure pal. lol I hope they let them in so you can see. LSU aint Iowa state pal. LOL
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Hi Herby. :D
I still cannot figure out what App. State beating Michigan has anything to do with this years National Title game. ??? The year that Michigan got beat by App. State is the same year that Michigan went down to Florida and beat Florida with Tim Tebag, percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes,..etc and beat their asses.
LMFAO. LOL
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i didnt mean it in realtion to the title game i was just using it in context to anything can happen, mark my words, Ok State would not get destroyed by LSU, it would be a great match up.
I agree on that. Bama did not win their conference, so, they do not deserve a shot against another team that already beat them. I know it was a close game, but Bama had their shot and lost. The End. I wanna see Oklahoma State against LSU. I just know Saban will use his snake oil and get into the championship game some fucking way.
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ok sure pal. lol I hope they let them in so you can see. LSU aint Iowa state pal. LOL
Ames, Iowa is a tricky place to play a football game in late November-early December, that Cyclones team has a way of pulling big upsets, over the past coule of seasons they have gone into Lincoln and beaten a good Nebraska team and went into Austin and beaten a pretty good Texas team.
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oh and I'm predicting if LSU wins this year...Les is going to Michigan. Mark it down.
He signed long-term for LSU. Plus he is apart of 3 National Titles there. Why would he go to Michigan and be in the Bo Dog by the boosters within 3-4 yrs?
Les will get all the 4-5-stars that matter in Louisiana and clean up in North Florida and East Texas.
11-1 is a piece of cake year in and out.
Michigan is a thing of the past.
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Ames, Iowa is a tricky place to play a football game in late November-early December, that Cyclones team has a way of pulling big upsets, over the past coule of seasons they have gone into Lincoln and beaten a good Nebraska team and went into Austin and beaten a pretty good Texas team.
When? I have been up for two straight days, but i do know that Texas and Nebraska both sucked ass this year! I am shocked that Mack Brown still has a fuckin job! How he keeps failing is beyond me.....I mean, he has top talent and keeps fucking it up.
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He signed long-term for LSU. Plus he is apart of 3 National Titles there. Why would he go to Michigan and be in the Bo Dog by the boosters within 3-4 yrs?
I was at a medical conference where one of LSU's docs was a speaker.
Les will get all the 4-5-stars that matter in Louisiana and clean up in North Florida and East Texas.
11-1 is a piece of cake year in and out.
Michigan is a thing of the past.
I think we are going to be fine with Brady Hoke. 8)
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Ames, Iowa is a tricky place to play a football game in late November-early December, that Cyclones team has a way of pulling big upsets, over the past coule of seasons they have gone into Lincoln and beaten a good Nebraska team and went into Austin and beaten a pretty good Texas team.
I hear you man. Just giving you a hard time. LOL. I actually want to see OK St vs LSU. As much as a homer SEC fan I am. I don't care to see BAMA vs LSU. LMAO that shit was boring as hell lol. They had their shot at home and lost.
Ok St would get WAAAAY MORE coverage nationally than Bama vs LSU. we'll see later in the day if Ok St jumped bama. I said last night they'd need to smash OU and they did so we'll see.
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When? I have been up for two straight days, but i do know that Texas and Nebraska both sucked ass this year! I am shocked that Mack Brown still has a fuckin job! How he keeps failing is beyond me.....I mean, he has top talent and keeps fucking it up.
i wasnt talking about this year, i said "over the last few seasons".
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i wasnt talking about this year, i said "over the last few seasons".
I am really spacing out, but Mack Brown just needs to step down. :-\ I mean, Texas can recruit anyone and tell the rest of the 4*'s to get fuckin lost!
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I hear you man. Just giving you a hard time. LOL. I actually want to see OK St vs LSU. As much as a homer SEC fan I am. I don't care to see BAMA vs LSU. LMAO that shit was boring as hell lol. They had their shot at home and lost.
Ok St would get WAAAAY MORE coverage nationally than Bama vs LSU. we'll see later in the day if Ok St jumped bama. I said last night they'd need to smash OU and they did so we'll see.
im just not a huge fan of defensive struggles and 10-7 or 7-3 football games, i would love to see that run and gun OK State offense against that CRAZY LSU defense and see who would come out on top.
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I am really spacing out, but Mack Brown just needs to step down. :-\ I mean, Texas can recruit anyone and tell the rest of the 4*'s to get fuckin lost!
i agree on Mack, i cant understand how with over 300 incredible recruits in the state of Texas every year you can miss out on so many i mean its the damn Texas Longhorns after all, at the same time you cant tell me that mack doesnt havesome athletes in that locker room, i think theyre just a young team right now.
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http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversations/_/id/7315073/alabama-crimson-tide-stay-no-2-associated-press-top-25-poll-ahead-oklahoma-state-cowboys
Coaches poll and AP kept Bama at #2. AP doesnt count for the BCS tally, but the coaches poll does. So now its up to the computers and the Harris poll. Rankings come out on ESPN tonight at 815 EST I think.
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im just not a huge fan of defensive struggles and 10-7 or 7-3 football games, i would love to see that run and gun OK State offense against that CRAZY LSU defense and see who would come out on top.
I just do not wanna see a re-match, but i am pretty sure that the computers love the SEC (Special Ed Conference)
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http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversations/_/id/7315073/alabama-crimson-tide-stay-no-2-associated-press-top-25-poll-ahead-oklahoma-state-cowboys
Coaches poll and AP kept Bama at #2. AP doesnt count for the BCS tally, but the coaches poll does. So now its up to the computers and the Harris poll. Rankings come out on ESPN tonight at 815 EST I think.
Gundy has a right to be pissed.
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im just not a huge fan of defensive struggles and 10-7 or 7-3 football games, i would love to see that run and gun OK State offense against that CRAZY LSU defense and see who would come out on top.
same here. LSU is lazy out the gates..so OK st get up early plus a late LSU rally = fabulous national championship game imo.
I have a pal went to OK St and he predicted this year his squad was super tight. I didn't believe him, but they are pretty explosive. Would be a good match up. Let's see how the BCS squares it up. I have a feeling that Iowa st loss will kill it though being bama only loss was to LSU and LSU had an insane strength of schedule this year. Think they played 6 or 7 top ranked teams.
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same here. LSU is lazy out the gates..so OK st get up early plus a late LSU rally = fabulous national championship game imo.
I have a pal went to OK St and he predicted this year his squad was super tight. I didn't believe him, but they are pretty explosive. Would be a good match up. Let's see how the BCS squares it up. I have a feeling that Iowa st loss will kill it though being bama only loss was to LSU and LSU had an insane strength of schedule this year. Think they played 6 or 7 top ranked teams.
if any team in the country has corners who can at least contain Justin Blackmon its LSU.
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i agree on Mack, i cant understand how with over 300 incredible recruits in the state of Texas every year you can miss out on so many i mean its the damn Texas Longhorns after all, at the same time you cant tell me that mack doesnt havesome athletes in that locker room, i think theyre just a young team right now.
Maybe. They are "The Longhorns" and they have so much talent every single year! I mean, Texas is where every kid wants to go. Texas is not like Florida where you have "Three Major programs." Florida is loaded with talent too, but those kids have three to choose from. Texas has a top 3-5 class every year and they might take 5 kids from out of state who are the cream on the crop at whatever position Texas needs.
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Maybe. They are "The Longhorns" and they have so much talent every single year! I mean, Texas is where every kid wants to go. Texas is not like Florida where you have "Three Major programs." Florida is loaded with talent too, but those kids have three to choose from. Texas has a top 3-5 class every year and they might take 5 kids from out of state who are the cream on the crop at whatever position Texas needs.
thats what i cant understand, the only thing i can think of is that obviously Stoops is getting a bunch of kids and also with the improved facilities OK State is getting a bunch now.
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thats what i cant understand, the only thing i can think of is that obviously Stoops is getting a bunch of kids and also with the improved facilities OK State is getting a bunch now.
Hmmm....Will Muschamp could not have hurt that much, could it? I mean, Texas did not even make a bowl game last year. And Texas should not have beaten Texas A&M this year, but that fucking stupid ass penalty gave Texas the game......
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Hmmm....Will Muschamp could not have hurt that much, could it? I mean, Texas did not even make a bowl game last year. And Texas should not have beaten Texas A&M this year, but that fucking stupid ass penalty gave Texas the game......
i think Muschamp was and is perfect for the role he played, Defensive Coordinator, i dont think hes going to be a successful head coach.
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i think Muschamp was and is perfect for the role he played, Defensive Coordinator, i dont think hes going to be a successful head coach.
Yea, but Muschamp was the DC at Texas last year and they went 5-7. :-\ :-\ Muschamp inherited a fuckin mess that Urban Creyer left. 8) But, Florida had one of the best recruiting classes that i have ever seen...two years ago i think with Sheriff Floyd, Ronald Powell (#1 Player in the country), Matt Elam, Dominique Easley,..etc on Defense and look at them. :-\ I can understand the offense, but not the defense. I think Meyer is overrated because if i remember correctly, Spurrier won with Charlie Strong as DC and now look at Strong doing pretty good at Louisville. :o Who would have thought that? Not my ass. And Urban also had Dan Mullen who is now the HC at Mississippi State, but is the likely next HC at Penn State.
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Yea, but Muschamp was the DC at Texas last year and they went 5-7. :-\ :-\ Muschamp inherited a fuckin mess that Urban Creyer left. 8) But, Florida had one of the best recruiting classes that i have ever seen...two years ago i think with Sheriff Floyd, Ronald Powell (#1 Player in the country), Matt Elam, Dominique Easley,..etc on Defense and look at them. :-\ I can understand the offense, but not the defense. I think Meyer is overrated because if i remember correctly, Spurrier won with Charlie Strong as DC and now look at Strong doing pretty good at Louisville. :o Who would have thought that? Not my ass. And Urban also had Dan Mullen who is now the HC at Mississippi State, but is the likely next HC at Penn State.
hahahaa, why would ANYONE take that job? they'll be lucky to get a high school coach to take over that mess.
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hahahaa, why would ANYONE take that job? they'll be lucky to get a high school coach to take over that mess.
Not sure, but Mullen who everyone is talking about. I always thought Greg Schiano (SP) was waiting for Joe Pa to step down and they would call him, but not now, or maybe...i think it would be nice to see Mullen face off against Meyer, but i have no clue who would wanna take over that mess. :-\
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if OSU is left out of the National Chamionship it will be a crime, how can you have a team that didnt even win its SUB CONFERENCE let alone win its CONFERENCE in the title game, the BCS game should be LSU vs. Oklahoma State, case closed.
I agreee, but don't know if it is going to turn out that way. LSU #1
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I agreee, but don't know if it is going to turn out that way. LSU #1
And it is going to be Bama and LSU. Please change the system!!
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SEC championship IS the national championship....5 straight years....and there will be another SEC natl champion this year. Alabama's only loss was to the #1 team in the nation....Ok St lost to Iowa St ? C'mon, get out of here with that shit.
#7 on LSU is the most exciting player in college football......by a mile.
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Not sure, but Mullen who everyone is talking about. I always thought Greg Schiano (SP) was waiting for Joe Pa to step down and they would call him, but not now, or maybe...i think it would be nice to see Mullen face off against Meyer, but i have no clue who would wanna take over that mess. :-\
Haha,Schiano can't even win the Big East!
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Haha,Schiano can't even win the Big East!
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There is the SEC...and then everybody else. Alabama alone is going to have more players drafted to the NFL than the entire Big East combined. There isn't a non-SEC team that can even come close, much less compete, with the top dogs of the SEC. OSU, OU, Wisconsin, Clemson, Boise State, Oregon, USC.............any of them would have gotten absolutely murdered if they had appeared in the NCG.
For non-SEC fans: look back to 80s and hell even the 50s for good memories when your team was good.....because a non-SEC team will never, ever win a national championship again.
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There is the SEC...and then everybody else. Alabama alone is going to have more players drafted to the NFL than the entire Big East combined. There isn't a non-SEC team that can even come close, much less compete, with the top dogs of the SEC. OSU, OU, Wisconsin, Clemson, Boise State, Oregon, USC.............any of them would have gotten absolutely murdered if they had appeared in the NCG.
For non-SEC fans: look back to 80s and hell even the 50s for good memories when your team was good.....because a non-SEC team will never, ever win a national championship again.
That's a ridiculous thing to say... I'm sure all of those years of florida state dominance made people say the same thing about them.
Teams change, things change... Conferences change.
And let's be clear... Alabama does not in any way deserve to be in the BCS National Championship game.
If you do not at least win your conference, you should not go.
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That's a ridiculous thing to say... I'm sure all of those years of florida state dominance made people say the same thing about them.
Teams change, things change... Conferences change.
And let's be clear... Alabama does not in any way deserve to be in the BCS National Championship game.
If you do not at least win your conference, you should not go.
Even Saban said that himself..... 8)
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Personally, I think the OSU and LSU game would probably be much more entertaining, BUT Bama deserves it. If Bama and OSU have the exact same record, then you have to look at the losses they have and how do those compare. A loss to LSU is much more persuasive than a loss to Iowa State. I would even say Stanford has more of a claim to the BCS NC game than OSU. There only loss was to a high powered Oregon team, which I think everyone would agree that Oregon outclasses Iowa State any day of the week. And throw out the whole "well they(Bama) didnt win the conference" for a minute.Who is to say the top 2 teams cannot be in the same conference? One real positive that may come from this, a real 4-8 team playoff system. Especially if the Bammers win.
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So, LSU finishes the year Co-National Champs because people are fooling themselves if they think LSU won't cry 1-1 in the series if Bama wins. Also, it's hard to beat the same team twice in a season. Bama had their chance. It should have been OSU.
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Personally, I think the OSU and LSU game would probably be much more entertaining, BUT Bama deserves it. If Bama and OSU have the exact same record, then you have to look at the losses they have and how do those compare. A loss to LSU is much more persuasive than a loss to Iowa State. I would even say Stanford has more of a claim to the BCS NC game than OSU. There only loss was to a high powered Oregon team, which I think everyone would agree that Oregon outclasses Iowa State any day of the week. And throw out the whole "well they(Bama) didnt win the conference" for a minute.Who is to say the top 2 teams cannot be in the same conference? One real positive that may come from this, a real 4-8 team playoff system. Especially if the Bammers win.
I saw a 6 team system which would work better. Con champs LSU and OSU get a bye. Bama vs Stanford to play OSU and Oregon vs Boise State to play LSU, or something along these lines.
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So, LSU finishes the year Co-National Champs because people are fooling themselves if they think LSU won't cry 1-1 in the series if Bama wins. Also, it's hard to beat the same team twice in a season. Bama had their chance. It should have been OSU.
And thats what I mean when I say the one positive that will come out of this. So many people will be pissed regardless of the outcome, a big playoff push will occur. Superconferences will be here in the next 2-3 years. 16 teams total per conference, top 2 teams from each go to the playoffs. You could even include the BCS bowl games as the playoff sites. Its a win win for the schools, instead of getting paid once for a bowl, they could get paid 2-3 times dependent upon if they win or lose and move on.
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And thats what I mean when I say the one positive that will come out of this. So many people will be pissed regardless of the outcome, a big playoff push will occur. Superconferences will be here in the next 2-3 years. 16 teams total per conference, top 2 teams from each go to the playoffs. You could even include the BCS bowl games as the playoff sites. Its a win win for the schools, instead of getting paid once for a bowl, they could get paid 2-3 times dependent upon if they win or lose and move on.
The top team and top conf champ shouldn't have to go thru all those games, they earned an easy road during the regular season. OSU vs (Bama vs Stanford). LSU vs (Boise State vs V Tech or Michigan). LSU mauls that draw, and the CLEAR #2 team comes from the second one.
In the current case Bama can not claim lone NC, no way!
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The top team and top conf champ shouldn't have to go thru all those games, they earned an easy road during the regular season. OSU vs (Bama vs Stanford). LSU vs (Boise State vs V Tech or Michigan). LSU mauls that draw, and the CLEAR #2 team comes from the second one.
In the current case Bama can not claim lone NC, no way!
I'm sure Iowa State would beat anyone in the Top 5 just like they did OSU. Saying OSU deserves it more is a joke. Look at who each team lost to, that's it. People keep saying OSU got robbed and base that mainly on not wanting to see another boring game between LSU and Bama. Throw the conferences out of it and tell me which loss from OSU and Bama is the most compelling. No one can say with a straight face its the OSU loss to Iowa State. No one.
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if OSU is left out of the National Chamionship it will be a crime, how can you have a team that didnt even win its SUB CONFERENCE let alone win its CONFERENCE in the title game, the BCS game should be LSU vs. Oklahoma State, case closed.
They lost to a 6-6 team!!!! THis would be like Bama losing to Vandy.
Bama TIED and lost by 3 pts in OT to LSU!!!
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Alabama - Does anyone want to see a low scoring rerun? Looks like an under 25 game
OSU - LSU offense can be anemic, and OSU can score. Looks like an over 50 game.
In 2003 LSU head coach Nick Saban said any team that does not win their conference does not deserve to play in the BCS title game.
In 2006 Florida head coach Urban Meyer said Michigan did not deserve a rematch against Ohio St. because they already had their chance to win.
Basically, past SEC coaches have said Bama should not get a 2nd shot at LSU.
Also, if LSU loses to Bama, it's said that LSU could argue for Co-NCs because the series would be tied 1-1.
What's the point of LSU vs Bama again???
Really? Did the Pats get a Co-Super champs ring since they beat the Giants the last week of the regular season?
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They lost to a 6-6 team!!!! THis would be like Bama losing to Vandy.
Bama TIED and lost by 3 pts in OT to LSU!!!
i think when you match up the schedules the difficulty will come up pretty similar, regardless of OSU losing to Iowa State they at least won their conference which is arguably the 2nd best conference after the SEC, i love Bama and im a Saban fan i really am but you shoudlnt be playing for the national title if you couldnt win your sub conference let alone your conference.
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i wasnt talking about this year, i said "over the last few seasons".
UT has suckeed ass the last 2 seasons... so I dont know why thats so impressive.
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i think when you match up the schedules the difficulty will come up pretty similar, regardless of OSU losing to Iowa State they at least won their conference which is arguably the 2nd best conference after the SEC, i love Bama and im a Saban fan i really am but you shoudlnt be playing for the national title if you couldnt win your sub conference let alone your conference.
Sorry but the BCSNCG doesn't say that. THE BCS simply wants the TOP TWO (2) teams in the nation to play each other.
And the top 2 teams are indeed playing each other in the BCSNCG.
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Sorry but the BCSNCG doesn't say that. THE BCS simply wants the TOP TWO (2) teams in the nation to play each other.
And the top 2 teams are indeed playing each other in the BCSNCG.
problem is that theres no concrete way of determining who that number 2 team is, i think its a toss up between Bama and OSU but OSU just demolished a legendary program in Oklahoma in their last game, i say that puts OSU right there.
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Really? Did the Pats get a Co-Super champs ring since they beat the Giants the last week of the regular season?
I have no clue what you are talking about. Eddie George (better football player and analyst than you'll ever be) plus others said if LSU lost then they should be Co-National Champs, just for the season they had. I'll say it again if LSU drops this rematch, they will call for a Co-National Title and it will be given. Is Bama really better than them if Jefferson fumbles on the 1 yd line with seconds left in the game? Bama had their chance. Kill the debate and give OSU their chance given they are a conference champ. LSU has a late-out-the-box offense, and I wouldn't be surprise if OSU jumped on them 14-0 or 17-0. Obviously, LSU gets their bearings as usual and wreaks them for the next 2.5 quarters but still a fun game to watch.
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Fuck it. Ain't watchin', because I've got big balls.
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I have no clue what you are talking about. Eddie George (better football player and analyst than you'll ever be) plus others said if LSU lost then they should be Co-National Champs, just for the season they had. I'll say it again if LSU drops this rematch, they will call for a Co-National Title and it will be given. Is Bama really better than them if Jefferson fumbles on the 1 yd line with seconds left in the game? Bama had their chance. Kill the debate and give OSU their chance given they are a conference champ. LSU has a late-out-the-box offense, and I wouldn't be surprise if OSU jumped on them 14-0 or 17-0. Obviously, LSU gets their bearings as usual and wreaks them for the next 2.5 quarters but still a fun game to watch.
Big F-ing deal. The Coaches of the NCAA Division I voted Bama number 2, not OSU. I would put what they say far above what an analyst on ESPN says. Half of what those guys say is to stir the pot anyway. Ever notice that Lou Holtz and Mark May rarely agree? Hmmm, I wonder why? ::)
Like Devon said, the BCSNCG was put in place for #1 and #2 to play, irregardless of who won what conference. You cant hold it against Bama that they are in the same sub conference as the #1 team. And why anybody thinks OSU will put up a lot of points against LSU is beyond me. Auburn beat an offense better than this years OSU in last years Oregan in the BCSNCG. And Auburns defense last year isnt even in the same stratosphere as this years LSU.
Which loss is worse, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU? Answer please....
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Personally, I think the OSU and LSU game would probably be much more entertaining, BUT Bama deserves it. If Bama and OSU have the exact same record, then you have to look at the losses they have and how do those compare. A loss to LSU is much more persuasive than a loss to Iowa State. I would even say Stanford has more of a claim to the BCS NC game than OSU. There only loss was to a high powered Oregon team, which I think everyone would agree that Oregon outclasses Iowa State any day of the week. And throw out the whole "well they(Bama) didnt win the conference" for a minute.Who is to say the top 2 teams cannot be in the same conference? One real positive that may come from this, a real 4-8 team playoff system. Especially if the Bammers win.
The top 2 teams CAN'T be in the same conference. Even if you say "Ok, look, they are the best 2 teams in the country."
Does the 2nd best NFL team go to the superbowl if the 1st best NFL team is in their same conference?
Negatory.
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Big F-ing deal. The Coaches of the NCAA Division I voted Bama number 2, not OSU. I would put what they say far above what an analyst on ESPN says. Half of what those guys say is to stir the pot anyway. Ever notice that Lou Holtz and Mark May rarely agree? Hmmm, I wonder why? ::)
Like Devon said, the BCSNCG was put in place for #1 and #2 to play, irregardless of who won what conference. You cant hold it against Bama that they are in the same sub conference as the #1 team. And why anybody thinks OSU will put up a lot of points against LSU is beyond me. Auburn beat an offense better than this years OSU in last years Oregan in the BCSNCG. And Auburns defense last year isnt even in the same stratosphere as this years LSU.
Which loss is worse, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU? Answer please....
It's about you had your chance, very hard to beat the same team twice in a season, and that's a disadvantage for LSU who is clearly #1. Also, a couple of years ago Utah approved you can beat Bama and Sabien with a good gunning offense, so I'm not so sure Bama would beat OSU, as I'm sure LSU would completely wreck them after 1.5 quarters. OSU should get their shot. It's funny grass and in doors, so that's optimal for their offense.
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The top 2 teams CAN'T be in the same conference. Even if you say "Ok, look, they are the best 2 teams in the country."
Does the 2nd best NFL team go to the superbowl if the 1st best NFL team is in their same conference?
Negatory.
That makes ZERO sense. The BCS only says top 2 teams, it does not care from what conference, even if they are the same one. I dont hear anyone saying Bama isnt worthy of being #2, only that they had their chance. And the NFL and CFB are apples and oranges, no need in a comparison. NFL has a little thing called playoffs, CFB doesnt.
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That makes ZERO sense. The BCS only says top 2 teams, it does not care from what conference, even if they are the same one. I dont hear anyone saying Bama isnt worthy of being #2, only that they had their chance. And the NFL and CFB are apples and oranges, no need in a comparison. NFL has a little thing called playoffs, CFB doesnt.
By my understanding, OSU built up enough points after blowing out Oklahoma 44-10 to pass Bama in the rankings, so who figured Bama was clearly number 2?
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It's about you had your chance, very hard to beat the same team twice in a season, and that's a disadvantage for LSU who is clearly #1. Also, a couple of years ago Utah approved you can beat Bama and Sabien with a good gunning offense, so I'm not so sure Bama would beat OSU, as I'm sure LSU would completely wreck them after 1.5 quarters. OSU should get their shot. It's funny grass and in doors, so that's optimal for their offense.
Worse loss, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU?
None of this 4 years ago BS, beating a team twice in a season, indoor play, etc. None of that matters...none.
Worse loss, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU? Thats all that matters with two equally matched 1 loss teams.
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That makes ZERO sense. The BCS only says top 2 teams, it does not care from what conference, even if they are the same one. I dont hear anyone saying Bama isnt worthy of being #2, only that they had their chance. And the NFL and CFB are apples and oranges, no need in a comparison. NFL has a little thing called playoffs, CFB doesnt.
If the BCS had playoffs, Alabama wouldn't even qualify because they didn't win their conference.
If you don't win your conference, you should not be in the national championship game... PERIOD.
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By my understanding, OSU built up enough points after blowing out Oklahoma 44-10 to pass Bama in the rankings, so who figured Bama was clearly number 2?
Your understanding is wrong then. The Coaches poll, AP poll and Harris poll ALL had Bama # 2. All of them. I'm no Bama fan, far from it. But this crap of OSU getting robbed is that, crap.
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Worse loss, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU?
None of this 4 years ago BS, beating a team twice in a season, indoor play, etc. None of that matters...none.
Worse loss, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU? Thats all that matters with two equally matched 1 loss teams.
LSU had 2 loses and got a National Title vs teams with one lost, so what difference does it make if OSU got upset on the road? They still came back and took their conference cleaning house with Oklahoma and got the points to move into #2. Who the fuck decided to keep them at #3, because margin for the Okie game would put them at #2?
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If the BCS had playoffs, Alabama wouldn't even qualify because they didn't win their conference.
If you don't win your conference, you should not be in the national championship game... PERIOD.
Well they dont, so the rest of your statement does not matter. You dont like it, write your local SEC school president and get it changed. Good luck :D
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LSU had 2 loses and got a National Title vs teams with one lost, so what difference does it make if OSU got upset on the road? They still came back and took their conference cleaning house with Oklahoma and got the points to move into #2. Who the fuck decided to keep them at #3, because margin for the Okie game would put them at #2?
None of this matters, answer the question please.
Worse loss, OSU to Iowa Stae or Bama to LSU?
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Well they dont, so the rest of your statement does not matter. You dont like it, write your local SEC school president and get it changed. Good luck :D
No, because I didn't bring up playoffs... YOU did.
I'm simply saying that if you don't win your conference you shouldn't get a BCS national championship spot.
That's got NOTHING to do with playoffs.
Your comment in bold is quite ridiculous.
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No, because I didn't bring up playoffs... YOU did.
I'm simply saying that if you don't win your conference you shouldn't get a BCS national championship spot.
That's got NOTHING to do with playoffs.
Your comment in bold is quite ridiculous.
It was meant to be ridiculous, sarcasm anyone. I did bring up playoffs as a way of not letting this happen again and because this system always has someone not happy with the outcome. The BCS rules only are for the #1 and #2 team, the conference does not matter. Hell, OSU had the best record in the Big 12, but they had no Big 12 Championship game this year, so what about that?
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It was meant to be ridiculous, sarcasm anyone. I did bring up playoffs as a way of not letting this happen again and because this system always has someone not happy with the outcome. The BCS rules only are for the #1 and #2 team, the conference does not matter. Hell, OSU had the best record in the Big 12, but they had no Big 12 Championship game this year, so what about that?
When your conference record (and overall) is so much better than everyone else in the conference, then it makes sense that you have won that conference.
LSU specifically beat Alabama... and since Alabama does not make it to the conference Game... they should not be in the BCS title game.
If the SEC didn't have a title game, Alabama wouldn't have to worry about winning that conference anyway, because they had already lost to LSU.
Ergo, the same rule will apply with them not getting the BCS game.
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When your conference record (and overall) is so much better than everyone else in the conference, then it makes sense that you have won that conference.
LSU specifically beat Alabama... and since Alabama does not make it to the conference Game... they should not be in the BCS title game.
If the SEC didn't have a title game, Alabama wouldn't have to worry about winning that conference anyway, because they had already lost to LSU.
Ergo, the same rule will apply with them not getting the BCS game.
He can't be wrong, so you'll be going back and forth all day. Another Bullshit call by the pollsters. It's not clear if OSU or Bama is #2, but Bama already lost to LSU. OSU's turn. Bad for LSU because they have to do one of the impossibles to beat a team twice in the same season who got a Damn good look at them vs a clean slate LSU vs OSU.
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When your conference record (and overall) is so much better than everyone else in the conference, then it makes sense that you have won that conference.
LSU specifically beat Alabama... and since Alabama does not make it to the conference Game... they should not be in the BCS title game.
If the SEC didn't have a title game, Alabama wouldn't have to worry about winning that conference anyway, because they had already lost to LSU.
Ergo, the same rule will apply with them not getting the BCS game.
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I'll ask you the same question I asked the other poster.
Worse loss, OSU to Iowa Stae or Bama to LSU? To me, this is the be all end all of determining who plays LSU.
The other guy hasnt answered and I know why
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When your conference record (and overall) is so much better than everyone else in the conference, then it makes sense that you have won that conference.
LSU specifically beat Alabama... and since Alabama does not make it to the conference Game... they should not be in the BCS title game.
If the SEC didn't have a title game, Alabama wouldn't have to worry about winning that conference anyway, because they had already lost to LSU.
Ergo, the same rule will apply with them not getting the BCS game.
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I'll ask you the same question I asked the other poster.
Worse loss, OSU to Iowa Stae or Bama to LSU? To me, this is the be all end all of determining who plays LSU.
The other guy hasnt answered and I know why
I don't see what "worse loss" has to do with it.
You might disagree (obviously you do) but football doesn't work that way... Any given day man.
We've all seen worse teams beat the better team... That's what Football is all about.
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He can't be wrong, so you'll be going back and forth all day. Another Bullshit call by the pollsters. It's not clear if OSU or Bama is #2, but Bama already lost to LSU. OSU's turn. Bad for LSU because they have to do one of the impossibles to beat a team twice in the same season who got a Damn good look at them vs a clean slate LSU vs OSU.
You never answered the question
Worse loss, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU?
You just keep coming up with nonsensicle arguments. What are you goin to say next? LSU cant win because Les Miles cant eat the artificial turf in the Superdome like he does grass fields?
Before the BCS we would have a split championship every other year it seemed like. You would rarely have an "undisputed" NC as they used to call it. The BCS for all its flaws has been pretty good since its inception.
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Worse loss, OSU to Iowa State or Bama to LSU?