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this is hours after talking with the president of Turkey and making a snap decision (consulting with no one other than his very good brain) to withdraw US troops from parts of northeast Syria.  This has been condemned from pretty much everyone (including his loyal cock$ucker Lindsey Graham who called it  "shortsighted and irresponsible.")

Clearly Graham has forgotten that Trump is a stable genius.

Trump birthed this idiotic tweet to remind Graham and other critics how brilliant he is


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Stupid Nikki Haley

After all this time how can she not know that Trump has "great and unmatched wisdom"


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Exclusive: Official Who Heard Call Says Trump Got 'Rolled' By Turkey and 'Has No Spine'


Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.

In a scheduled phone call on Sunday afternoon between President Trump and President Erdogan, Trump said he would withdraw U.S. forces from northern Syria. The phone call was scheduled after Turkey announced it was planning to invade Syria, and hours after Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border and issued his strongest threat to launch a military incursion, according to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of anonymity.

The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."

Newsweek granted the National Security Council official anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. The source said it would not be surprising to see a Turkish incursion in the next 24 to 96 hours.

Turkey has long considered the Kurdish militia in Syria to be a terrorist insurgency, despite the United States providing military and financial aid to the group in its fight against ISIS, the Islamic State militant group. A battle with the vastly superior military of Turkey, a NATO ally, could drive the Kurds into the arms of Bashar Al-Assad, the Syrian dictator that Washington wants ousted, and by extension into an alliance with Russia and Iran, two U.S. rivals with forces in Syria.

The White House said late Sunday evening in a statement that Turkey will soon invade northern Syria but both the Defense Department and Trump on Twitter said they made clear to Turkey that they do not endorse a Turkish operation in northern Syria.

"As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I've done before!)," said Trump on Twitter Monday. "They must, with Europe and others, watch over the captured ISIS fighters and families...it is time now for others in the region, some of great wealth, to protect their own territory."

According to the NSC official, who had first-hand knowledge of the phone call, Trump did not endorse any Turkish military operation against Kurdish Forces, but also did not threaten economic sanctions during the phone call if Turkey decided to undertake offensive operations.

Newsweek granted the National Security Council official anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly. The source said they would not be surprised to see a Turkish incursion in the next 24 to 96 hours.

In a statement, White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham said, "The United States Armed Forces will not support or be involved in the operation, and United States forces, having defeated the ISIS territorial "Caliphate," will no longer be in the immediate area."

The New York Timesreported Monday that about 100 to 150 American forces would withdraw from northern Syria but not completely from the country. Newsweek confirmed the Times reporting but the National Security Council official said the number was closer to 230 service members, among them U.S. Special Forces and reconnaissance units.

The Times also reported witnesses observed United States forces withdraw from two observation posts in Tel Abyad and Ein Eissa in northeastern Syria. Newsweek confirmed these on Monday—a senior Defense Department official said American forces are about 90 percent complete with the withdraw as of publication.

One of the main issues in the phone call between the two world leaders concerned the roughly 2,000 Islamic State militant prisoners being held by the Kurdish-dominated Syrian Defense Forces in northeastern Syria, who the U.S. military assists financially.

Trump told Erdogan he did not want anything to do with ISIS prisoners despite the United States not currently detaining Islamic State prisoners in Syria. The Syrian Defense Forces control custody of the prisoners.

Erdogan said Turkey would take custody of the ISIS militant prisoners, according to the White House statement and the National Security Council official Newsweek spoke to for this story.

"The ISIS prisoners, some of them, will eventually be freed amongst the chaos, and remain in the area or go elsewhere to rejoin the fight," speculated the National Security Council official.

The White House statement on Sunday also expressed Trump's long-held frustration with how other NATO-allied countries had dealt with captured Islamic State group fighters. The statement singled out "France, Germany and other European nations," for refusing to take back their citizens who had joined the Islamic State militant group.

U.S. Army General Mark A. Milley, Trump's newly minted chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, is scheduled to meet with the service chiefs this morning to discuss the matter, said National Security Council source.

The National Security Council official said they could not speak about what Trump's admirals and generals may plan, but said they would not expect anything out of the usual norms as the Defense Department follows orders with or without advanced knowledge.

If the United States had refused to move out of Turkey's war path, U.S options would not just be the threat of potential conflict between nation-state militaries, it would have been applied pressure on the Turkish economy, according to the National Security Council official.

However, the United States chose not to stand its ground to protect Kurdish Forces against Turkish airstrikes as a part of Trump's "America First policy" and his historical views that war is bad for business, according to the official.

On Sunday, Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border hours after he issued his strongest threat to launch Turkish forces over the border and into the "buffer zone," between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

The buffer zone—sometimes referred to as the peace corridor—was established to prevent another Turkish invasion of northern Syria. The United States had been working to establish a proper demilitarized zone prior to Trump's endorsement of Turkey's military plans.

If Trump's withdraw of U.S. forces had not occurred, the National Security Council official told Newsweek, the United States could have continued to refine the buffer zone on the Syrian-Turkish border.

"To be honest with you, it would be better for the United States to support a Kurdish nation across Turkey, Syria and Iraq," said the National Security Council official. "It would be another Israel in the region."

The current foreign policy debacle is what prompted Trump's former defense secretary, James Mattis, to resign his post after Trump decided to abruptly withdraw American forces from Syria in December 2018. Mattis was the last of the generals touted as the "adults" in the administration—and was an outspoken opponent of a Syrian withdrawal.

A senior Defense Department official toldNewsweek in January no U.S. general was happy with the decision to pull back U.S. troops from Syria as Pentagon officials feared the withdrawal could spark an ISIS resurgence similar to the Taliban's growing influence and territory in Afghanistan.

Administration officials in January told Newsweek Trump's sudden withdraw order could undercut strategic U.S. alliances with regional allies; free Russia and Iran to re-establish a full military presence and solid footing in the Mediterranean; and leave U.S.-backed Kurdish fighters vulnerable to being decimated by a Turkish air campaign.

A complete withdrawal could also potentially give up a valuable regional position to American military forces that threaten United States interests in the region, including the interests of allies such as Israel and, to some extent, Jordan.

The National Security Council official compared Turkey to "playground bullies" on Monday.

"When the bigger guy [United States] moves aside in the playground, they [Turkey] get to beat on the smaller guy [Syrian Defense Forces] and this is not about the U.S. being the world police," the National Security Council source told Newsweek.

"We are telling the world, we will use you and then throw you away," the official added. "It's not like they don't have a television in Asia, in Africa, and South America."

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-official-who-heard-call-says-trump-got-rolled-turkey-has-no-spine-1463623

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It's weird has all these loyal Trumptard have quickly forgotten that Trump has a very good brain and has said a lot of things
One of those things he said is "I know more about ISIS [the Islamic State militant group] than the generals do. Believe me."

Clearly Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham have forgotten this

I guess this is why Trump needed to remind them of his "great and unmatched wisdom"

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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said in a statement that "a precipitous withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria would only benefit Russia, Iran, and the Assad regime."

"And it would increase the risk that ISIS and other terrorist groups regroup," he added. “I urge the President to exercise American leadership to keep together our multinational coalition to defeat ISIS and prevent significant conflict between our NATO ally Turkey and our local Syrian counterterrorism partners."

In a lengthy tweetstorm, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., a fierce Trump loyalist, tore into the decision, calling it a “disaster in the making.”

Graham predicted the move “Ensures ISIS comeback,” “Forces Kurds to align with Assad and Iran” and “Destroys Turkey’s relationship with U.S. Congress,” and called it a “stain on America’s honor for abandoning the Kurds.”

“I feel very bad for the Americans and allies who have sacrificed to destroy the ISIS Caliphate because this decision virtually reassures the reemergence of ISIS. So sad. So dangerous,” Graham tweeted. “President Trump may be tired of fighting radical Islam. They are NOT tired of fighting us,” he added.

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Thank god we're out. Hopefully the democratically elected President Al Assad with the help of Russia takes back his country.
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LOL @ Strawmans fake outrage 😂

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Assad is a bad dude but without him Syria becomes a caliphate.

Straw, you should look that word up so you understand.




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Assad is a bad dude but without him Syria becomes a caliphate.

Straw, you should look that word up so you understand.


So you're in favor of letting Turkey massacre our the Kurds (our allies)

Of course you're also in favor of giving both Russia and Iran

For some reason even Moscos Mitch doesn't seem to be in favor of this

I wonder why?

JustPlaneJane

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So you're in favor of letting Turkey massacre our the Kurds (our allies)

Of course you're also in favor of giving both Russia and Iran

For some reason even Moscos Mitch doesn't seem to be in favor of this

I wonder why?

Fake outrage.

Up until a few hours ago the only Kurd you knew anything about were cheese curds.

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Why do you care more about Turkey than your own country should be the question.
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It was the bizarro world on Twitter with all these Democrats ripping Trump for bringing home American troops.

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Why do you care more about Turkey than your own country should be the question.

Slow your roll Trumptard and try thinking for a minute or two

The Kurds are guarding nearly 10,000 Islamic militants, including about 2,000 foreign fighters, at a prison in eastern Syria.

US military commanders think that if Turkey attacks the Kurds that the men guarding these prisoners will abandon their post to help fight the Turkish forces

Is that a good thing for US security in the long run?

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Fake outrage.

Up until a few hours ago the only Kurd you knew anything about were cheese curds.

it always makes me laugh when Trumptards think everyone else is as stupid and ignorant as they are


JustPlaneJane

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it always makes me laugh when Trumptards think everyone else is as stupid and ignorant as they are



Liberals are all of a sudden worried about Turkey’s economy.

After spending the past 11 years trying to destroy ours.

The Democrat Party = the Party of hypocrisy and stupidity.

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Its a disgraceful decision that deserves the drawn comparisons with Obama. I have supported Trump, but he just looks weak stupid and out of his depth when dealing on the world stage. The majority of republicans support this position, its not a personal attack on the party, but he has to start standing for something more than  himself.

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The Kurds have been a pawn in the true conflict for decades.  The true conflict here is between Russia and the USA.

Syria has been an ally of Russia since forever, providing a strategic naval base at Tartus.  The base fell into disrepair after the fall of the USSR.

The US wants to deny Russia access to this port.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_naval_facility_in_Tartus

"Tartus is the Russian Navy's only Mediterranean repair and replenishment spot, sparing Russia’s warships the trip back to their Black Sea bases through the Turkish Straits. It is the Russian Navy's only overseas base."

The USA doesn't give two shits for the Syrian people or the Kurds.  

Nobody gives two shits about the Kurds.  The US has abandoned them in the past without a second thought.

Ultimately this is about the control of oil in the Middle East.

It always comes back to oil.

The US is now a great oil producer again.  No need to war for oil.


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Slow your roll Trumptard and try thinking for a minute or two

The Kurds are guarding nearly 10,000 Islamic militants, including about 2,000 foreign fighters, at a prison in eastern Syria.

US military commanders think that if Turkey attacks the Kurds that the men guarding these prisoners will abandon their post to help fight the Turkish forces

Is that a good thing for US security in the long run?


So are you saying ISIS will come to USA ?  with the iron clad borders that the democraps say are in place that would be impossible ???  or are you saying not letting them in would be racist ???
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Middle East is going to be a backwards shit hole regardless of which side you take. It’s best to do as little as possible.

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this is hours after talking with the president of Turkey and making a snap decision (consulting with no one other than his very good brain) to withdraw US troops from parts of northeast Syria.  This has been condemned from pretty much everyone (including his loyal cock$ucker Lindsey Graham who called it  "shortsighted and irresponsible.")

Clearly Graham has forgotten that Trump is a stable genius.

Trump birthed this idiotic tweet to remind Graham and other critics how brilliant he is




Severe mental illness has taken hold of you.   Trump is an ego maniac - we all get that.   Trump owns your mind. 

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this is hours after talking with the president of Turkey and making a snap decision (consulting with no one other than his very good brain) to withdraw US troops from parts of northeast Syria.  This has been condemned from pretty much everyone (including his loyal cock$ucker Lindsey Graham who called it  "shortsighted and irresponsible.")

Clearly Graham has forgotten that Trump is a stable genius.

Trump birthed this idiotic tweet to remind Graham and other critics how brilliant he is




Surely you jest.  :)

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How'd that work out in when we all but ignored the Taliban and Osama  in Afghanistan ( pre 9/11) ?

I think they attacked us because we were over there in their countries.

Seriously, would they have attacked us if we weren't over there?  I doubt it.

Anyway, f*ck 'em. 

The strong rule over the weak.  That's reality.

We want their oil so we are over there.  That's what it's all about.  Controlling the oil.

We need it.  They got it.  We take it.


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I think they attacked us because we were over there in their countries.

Seriously, would they have attacked us if we weren't over there?  I doubt it.

Anyway, f*ck 'em.  

The strong rule over the weak.  That's reality.

We want their oil so we are over there.  That's what it's all about.  Controlling the oil.

We need it.  They got it.  We take it.



Lol. Howard actually believes that 9/11 took place because we weren’t involved enough in the Middle East.

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it always makes me laugh when Trumptards think everyone else is as stupid and ignorant as they are



Says the man who tries to sell low budget websites to make a living.

So are you saying you are in support of the communist Kurd factions?