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Title: Chick claims he is natural at the 1990 NPC Nationals?
Post by: Method101 on May 02, 2009, 02:14:30 PM



Actualy, the only reason I was in the LH class that year, was that I was drug free and tested at the show...so much for your theory
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: burn2live on May 02, 2009, 02:17:44 PM
Probably just finished a cycle. Looks great though
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Deicide on May 02, 2009, 02:18:25 PM
Not natural


gh15 approved
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on May 02, 2009, 02:18:38 PM
LOL Good work.  He's a liar like everyone involved in bodybuilding.  It's obvious Chick was juicing as a teenager.  Everyone was in the 80's.  It's what you did.  Now that the stigma has changed so has his attitude so he lies.  I don't agree with it but I understand it.  
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 02, 2009, 02:18:58 PM
It's very possible, He's down 20+ almost 30lbs contest weight.  Steroids don't make or break conditioning.  They do help you keep muscle while dieting though.   

He said he was drug free for this show, not natural.  Big difference.

Do you have issues with Bob?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: TrueGrit on May 02, 2009, 02:20:12 PM
 Sometimes they consider themselves 'natural' or 'drug free' when they haven't used anything for a few weeks. Their definition is...ahem..spurious.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 02, 2009, 02:20:34 PM
LOL Good work.  He's a liar like everyone involved in bodybuilding.  It's obvious Chick was juicing as a teenager.  Everyone was in the 80's.  It's what you did.  Now that the stigma has changed so has his attitude so he lies.  I don't agree with it but I understand it. 

How's he lying.  He said he was not juicing for THIS show, not ever.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on May 02, 2009, 02:21:30 PM
It's very possible, He's down 20+ almost 30lbs contest weight.  Steroids don't make or break conditioning.  They do help you keep muscle while dieting though.   

Do you have issues with Bob?

Nobody said steroids genius we said NATURAL i.e. no drugs no lasix, no clen/T3/ephedrine etc.  If you think he was "natural" in that show you're a fool. 
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 02, 2009, 02:24:33 PM
Nobody said steroids genius we said NATURAL i.e. no drugs no lasix, no clen/T3/ephedrine etc.  If you think he was "natural" in that show you're a fool. 

hahahahaha.....another internet Chad Nichols.  With your extensive experience how could anyone argue with you?   ::)   

Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on May 02, 2009, 02:26:35 PM
hahahahaha.....another internet Chad Nichols.  With your extensive experience how could anyone argue with you?   ::)   



Say what you want but if you think Chick was natural in that show you're a fool.  Now go roll your ass into a river :) LOL. 
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Tre on May 02, 2009, 02:28:40 PM

If you're not on anything at the time, then at that moment, you are natural. 

And even if you are on something at that moment, you're still natural.

HTH
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on May 02, 2009, 02:30:37 PM
If you're not on anything at the time, then at that moment, you are natural. 

And even if you are on something at that moment, you're still natural.

HTH

lol.  So that's how they all justify it huh. 
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Method101 on May 02, 2009, 02:31:19 PM
If you're not on anything at the time, then at that moment, you are natural. 

And even if you are on something at that moment, you're still natural.

HTH
hahaha what a fucking idiot.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 02, 2009, 02:32:55 PM
Say what you want but if you think Chick was natural in that show you're a fool.  Now go roll your ass into a river :) LOL. 

Because you couldn't possibly get in shape for a show without drugs, a person with far better genetic potential couldn't as well?   OK I get it now.

































 ::)
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: 240 is Back on May 02, 2009, 02:34:50 PM
89/90/91 is when the pros went crazy with testing.

were the amateurs as test-crazy at that time too?  Might have explained a lot of ppl dropping suddenly for that time period from the years before.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on May 02, 2009, 02:35:36 PM
Because you couldn't possibly get in shape for a show without drugs, a person with far better genetic potential couldn't as well?   OK I get it no

It has nothing to do with me tough guy.  It has to do with the fact that Chick was never natural.  He's a liar.  No one during the 1990's at the leve of competition was natural, and Chick's genetics were no better than anyone else.  
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 02, 2009, 02:37:41 PM
It has nothing to do with me tough guy.  It has to do with the fact that Chick was never natural.  He's a liar.  No one during the 1990's at the leve of competition was natural, and Chick's genetics were no better than anyone else. 

So you're saying that you could accomplish the same things Bob has?  Why have we never heard of you?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: andreisdaman on May 02, 2009, 02:42:22 PM
I like Chick and I never criticize him......but no way is he natural there...I think he's playing with words there
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: TrueGrit on May 02, 2009, 02:45:39 PM
How long does someone need to have been off to legitimately call himself 'clean' ? Is there any kind of objective standard, or is just something you decide?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: On_Swole on May 02, 2009, 02:49:21 PM
Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?

No, he claimed that he was "drug-free" in that video, not natural. There's a difference. The poor bastard was down almost 30 lbs, how much more evidence do you need to support his claim?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: TrueGrit on May 02, 2009, 02:50:26 PM
No, he claimed that he was "drug-free" in that video, not natural. There's a difference. The poor bastard was down almost 30 lbs, how much more evidence do you need to support his claim?

Is there an accepted time frame for what constitutes 'drug free' , or is it  just when none is in your system?

Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 02, 2009, 02:50:54 PM
Only Bob knows his status at that time for sure.  I like how everyone swears they have the "inside scoop."  As if they were the ones to paint Bob up with Protan and a roller the night before.



Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Croatch on May 02, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
Damn, 20+ years of juicing.  Impressive!
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 02, 2009, 02:56:27 PM
Damn, 20+ years of juicing.  Impressive!

Perhaps we'll see Crotch up on stage showing em how it's done?  Possibly after the fight with Pacqiuo?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: On_Swole on May 02, 2009, 03:11:06 PM
Is there an accepted time frame for what constitutes 'drug free' , or is it  just when none is in your system?


My opinion is that once there's nothing in your system, you're "free". It is laughable to hear someone say that they're "off of everything" when the last shot of their cycle was a week ago.  :)  Certain organizations require contestants to be clean for one year or more before allowing them to compete. Others simply require that you pass a test. Like everything else, it's subjective.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: TrueGrit on May 02, 2009, 03:13:28 PM
My opinion is that once there's nothing in your system, you're "free". It is laughable to hear someone say that they're "off of everything" when the last shot of their cycle was a week ago.  :)  Certain organizations require contestants to be clean for one year or more before allowing them to compete. Others simply require that you pass a test. Like everything else, it's subjective.

 Thanks man, good answer. Kinda clarifies things a bit better... Ultimately it does seem a very subjective area..
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Chick on May 02, 2009, 04:23:30 PM
LOL....funny stuff, guys.

What possible reason would I have to lie about it?  It was almost 20 years ago.

As I've stated before...never took anything as a teenager, started after I turned 20, was on till 1990 when the NPC decided to drug test. I went off at the end of the Nationals in 1989...had a pre test in Jan or so....there was still a trace of Deca (which stays in your system a long time)....continued to train drug free and competed and was tested for the 1990 Nationals (where I placed 5th in the Lt HVY class....

Contest weight at the 89 USA was 219....contest weight at the 90 Nationals was 205 after making weight.

Whats not to believe?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Stormspirit on May 02, 2009, 04:25:36 PM
were you in good condition before you dieted for this show chick?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Chick on May 02, 2009, 04:33:51 PM
were you in good condition before you dieted for this show chick?

Yeah...I was pretty lean as a kid, and coming off 3 straight years at the National shows ( all 3 in 1989)

For anyone thats doubts me...you can look up the 1989 USA and compare it to the 90 Nats...it's not even close.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Army of One on May 02, 2009, 04:39:51 PM
LOL....funny stuff, guys.

What possible reason would I have to lie about it?  It was almost 20 years ago.

As I've stated before...never took anything as a teenager, started after I turned 20, was on till 1990 when the NPC decided to drug test. I went off at the end of the Nationals in 1989...had a pre test in Jan or so....there was still a trace of Deca (which stays in your system a long time)....continued to train drug free and competed and was tested for the 1990 Nationals (where I placed 5th in the Lt HVY class....

Contest weight at the 89 USA was 219....contest weight at the 90 Nationals was 205 after making weight.

Whats not to believe?

(http://www.huggingbear.com/catalog/images/Pinocchio-Puppet.jpg)
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: QuakerOats on May 02, 2009, 04:43:48 PM
i can easily believe Bob was drug free for that show, you saw that he came down to 196 there.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on May 02, 2009, 04:44:43 PM
LOL....funny stuff, guys.

What possible reason would I have to lie about it?  It was almost 20 years ago.

As I've stated before...never took anything as a teenager, started after I turned 20, was on till 1990 when the NPC decided to drug test. I went off at the end of the Nationals in 1989...had a pre test in Jan or so....there was still a trace of Deca (which stays in your system a long time)....continued to train drug free and competed and was tested for the 1990 Nationals (where I placed 5th in the Lt HVY class....

Contest weight at the 89 USA was 219....contest weight at the 90 Nationals was 205 after making weight.

Whats not to believe?
chick fella,,why do you have to post in this thread YOU AND I KNOW DAMN WELL THEY WONT BLIEVE AT ALL YOU HORMONIZED ABOUT AFTER 20 THIS I KNOW,,YOU CAN TELL PEOPEL ON HERE OTHERWISE THEY WANT TO MAKE YOU A LIAR AND LAIR SOME MORE

they dont know what means good genectiv,,if someone on here post pic that i know is hormoizied they getbig come on here and say he i snatrual with 20inch arms with 8% bF,,they dont know better if you notice the hormonize guys konw what is natral and not natural vs getbig poster my fiend,,
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Chick on May 02, 2009, 04:47:32 PM
chick fella,,why do you have to post in this thread YOU AND I KNOW DAMN WELL THEY WONT BLIEVE AT ALL YOU HORMONIZED ABOUT AFTER 20 THIS I KNOW,,YOU CAN TELL PEOPEL ON HERE OTHERWISE THEY WANT TO MAKE YOU A LIAR AND LAIR SOME MORE

they dont know what means good genectiv,,if someone on here post pic that i know is hormoizied they getbig come on here and say he i snatrual with 20inch arms with 8% bF,,they dont know better if you notice the hormonize guys konw what is natral and not natural vs getbig poster my fiend,,

Pretty sad, actually....but your right on the money as usual.

Genetics are EVERYTHING in bodybuilding...as anyone could see from my pics at 13, 14, 15 years old...

All we can do is try and educate my friend....
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Topskin69 on May 02, 2009, 04:47:49 PM
 Well we can add that to the list of questions that Chick is going to be asked via his polygraph. I hope that you dont need that 10grand for anything.

M!
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: QuakerOats on May 02, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
as you saw from the clip Bob's shoulder width and tremendous quad sweep and shape didn't magically disappear so genetics are VERY important.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Chick on May 02, 2009, 04:52:21 PM
Well we can add that to the list of questions that Chick is going to be asked via his polygraph. I hope that you dont need that 10grand for anything.

M!

Add it on...no problem...along with "Did I ever do steroids as a teenager? Have you ever smoked a ciggarette, pot, or any other recreational drug?
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on May 02, 2009, 05:00:12 PM
bob what was your diet plan b4 you really began training hard? can u list meal by meal plz
then what wa sit like when you were competing...same deal meal by meal
then what was it like when u got older like when u filmed the war 4 worlds...i know u touched on it briefly as u cooked your egg whites after walking on treadmill...but ya hardcre fans want to know the specifics plz
then nowadays what is your diet like?? meal by meal plz? and do u change your diet on weekends and special occasions?


thanks
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: nycbull on May 02, 2009, 05:27:15 PM
skinny arms for a guinea
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 02, 2009, 06:00:38 PM





1990 was the year a lot of shows were drug tested.  All of the pro shows and the NPC Nationals were tested.  Shawn Ray and a number of athletes were DQ in various shows so at the Nationals, everyone was coming in pretty much clean. 

I would say that Bob wasn't any different but he just didn't right that year.  Way too Light.
Title: Re: Chick claims hes natural in this video, bullshit?
Post by: lax on May 02, 2009, 06:05:32 PM
that'd be the one time I'd disagree with him
Title: Re: Chick claims he is natural at the 1990 NPC Nationals?
Post by: LATS on May 02, 2009, 10:19:50 PM
 i will never understand this boards obsession with ragging on chick.. ???
Title: Re: Chick claims he is natural at the 1990 NPC Nationals?
Post by: G o a t b o y on May 02, 2009, 10:25:40 PM
i will never understand this boards obsession with ragging on chick.. ???

240 started it years ago, and after he grew himself a vagina the rest of us felt obligated to pick up where he left off.
Title: Re: Chick claims he is natural at the 1990 NPC Nationals?
Post by: LATS on May 02, 2009, 11:11:23 PM
 I SEE.. LOL  ;D