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Do any of the women on this board have a license to carry a firearm?
Also, which firearms have you shot?
I'm licensed, but I live in NH where it's everyone's birthright to have a license. ;D
I personally think it's important for all women to know how to use a firearm safely, regardless of whether or not they want to own one or have one in their house. It made me WAY less scared of them to learn how to use them. Target shooting is also pretty fun.
I recommend a firearm safety class for every woman out there.
I've shot just about everything, but I'm not really good with all the names, and I can't remember some of them.
---Right now, I have a Sigarms 380.
---We also have a custom-made Wilson Combat 1911 which I believe is a 45 caliber
I've also owned and/or shot:
---all kinds of glocks...I personally really like Glocks, as they are very easy to use.
---several different kinds of rifles
---All kinds of 22 caliber pistols and rifles
---AK 47
---357 Magnum
---44 Magnum
---Mossberg sawed-off single shot shotgun (ouch, that one hurts to shoot and is VERY hard to control)
---Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol 8)
---I shot a 50 caliber revolver too, but I can't remember what it was
---I shot some sort of crazy automatic machine gun thing, but I can't remember what that was either. ;D
---I shot some sort of modified handgun that was made into an automatic, total gangsta gun!
---I used to have a SUPER light, tiny 357 revolver, but it was so small that it killed my hand when I shot it.
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Thought this was gunna be a thread about Female bodybuilders with large Clits?!!??!!?
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Don't make me shoot you Mike! >:(
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Thought this was gunna be a thread about Female bodybuilders with large Clits?!!??!!?
I'm feeling a sense of disappointment there...
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Don't make me shoot you Mike! >:(
:o
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Hey Rip,
I agree wholeheartedly.
There’s a big difference between owning a gun and KNOWING HOW TO USE IT.
A gun is pretty useless in a defense situation if you can’t properly handle it (unless the mere sight of one is enough to frighten off your assailant).
Also, my Dad took me shooting with him when I was about 11 or 12 years old. He let me shoot a variety of firearms including pistols, shotguns, and high-powered rifles.
Of course I didn’t own any guns at this point – and it would be quite a while before I did – but it instilled in me a respect for firearms, and taught me not to f**k about with the things the way so many kids do (and end up with horrific accidents).
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---all kinds of glocks...I personally really like Glocks, as they are very easy to use.
I also like Glock’s, and the first handgun I purchased and still carry is a model 21 - subcompact .40 caliber.
As you mentioned, they’re easy to use – especially to field strip and clean.
I installed a Laser-max bore-sighted laser sight for use in low-lit environments. I preferred it over the night sights they make. I don’t care for night sights during the day; green fiber-optic high-vis are my fav. But for a while, I simply used the factory issued white sights, as they work reasonably well in the most conditions.
Glock’s are very comfortable in the hand – even women officers whose hands are typically a bit smaller. That is one of the reasons that the police where I live all carry Glock’s. In fact, they carry the same model I own. I know several officers and they more or less convinced me to go with that gun.
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I'm feeling a sense of disappointment there...
i am :-\
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Not sure what all types of guns I've shot in my life but we used to target practice a lot in our basement w/a .22 when I was a kid.
My two personal handguns right now are a hammerless revolver which I haven't shot yet and a Smith & Wesson 9mm which I should trade in because the spent casings pop backwards into the front of your pants if they are loose and they're really hot >:(
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I also like Glock’s, and the first handgun I purchased and still carry is a model 21 - subcompact .40 caliber.
As you mentioned, they’re easy to use – especially to field strip and clean.
I installed a Laser-max bore-sighted laser sight for use in low-lit environments. I preferred it over the night sights they make. I don’t care for night sights during the day; green fiber-optic high-vis are my fav. But for a while, I simply used the factory issued white sights, as they work reasonably well in the most conditions.
Glock’s are very comfortable in the hand – even women officers whose hands are typically a bit smaller. That is one of the reasons that the police where I live all carry Glock’s. In fact, they carry the same model I own. I know several officers and they more or less convinced me to go with that gun.
Yep, my bro-in-law is an attorney who works with the police in his town, and the same thing goes for them. He has a TON of glocks and is the one who introduced me to them. I definitely think it's the easiest gun to handle, and comfortable...I have a very very small hand.
Not sure what all types of guns I've shot in my life but we used to target practice a lot in our basement w/a .22 when I was a kid.
My two personal handguns right now are a hammerless revolver which I haven't shot yet and a Smith & Wesson 9mm which I should trade in because the spent casings pop backwards into the front of your pants if they are loose and they're really hot >:(
LOL that's a problem ;D
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Shit, I wish I could convince my wife to learn to shot. I only own one gun which I wish she'd learn how to use (she doesn't need to go shooting all the time).
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Do any of the women on this board have a license to carry a firearm?
Also, which firearms have you shot?
I'm licensed, but I live in NH where it's everyone's birthright to have a license. ;D
I personally think it's important for all women to know how to use a firearm safely, regardless of whether or not they want to own one or have one in their house. It made me WAY less scared of them to learn how to use them. Target shooting is also pretty fun.
I recommend a firearm safety class for every woman out there.
I've shot just about everything, but I'm not really good with all the names, and I can't remember some of them.
---Right now, I have a Sigarms 380.
---We also have a custom-made Wilson Combat 1911 which I believe is a 45 caliber
I've also owned and/or shot:
---all kinds of glocks...I personally really like Glocks, as they are very easy to use.
---several different kinds of rifles
---All kinds of 22 caliber pistols and rifles
---AK 47
---357 Magnum
---44 Magnum
---Mossberg sawed-off single shot shotgun (ouch, that one hurts to shoot and is VERY hard to control)
---Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol 8)
---I shot a 50 caliber revolver too, but I can't remember what it was
---I shot some sort of crazy automatic machine gun thing, but I can't remember what that was either. ;D
---I shot some sort of modified handgun that was made into an automatic, total gangsta gun!
---I used to have a SUPER light, tiny 357 revolver, but it was so small that it killed my hand when I shot it.
I always knew you were a Pistal Packing Momma :P
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I always knew you were a Pistal Packing Momma :P
Is it that obvious? :D
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Don't make me shoot you Mike! >:(
I'm down in Arvilla-land this week... let me know if you want me to kick his ass for you.
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I used to go target practicing with my dad all the time when I was a kid. I sub'd on a trap league a few years back and wasn't half bad :P A former training partner, who is a cop, used to take me out shooting occasionally. I have no idea what kind of guns any of them were. :-\
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Do any of the women on this board have a license to carry a firearm?
Also, which firearms have you shot?
I'm licensed, but I live in NH where it's everyone's birthright to have a license. ;D
I personally think it's important for all women to know how to use a firearm safely, regardless of whether or not they want to own one or have one in their house. It made me WAY less scared of them to learn how to use them. Target shooting is also pretty fun.
I recommend a firearm safety class for every woman out there.
I've shot just about everything, but I'm not really good with all the names, and I can't remember some of them.
---Right now, I have a Sigarms 380.
---We also have a custom-made Wilson Combat 1911 which I believe is a 45 caliber
I've also owned and/or shot:
---all kinds of glocks...I personally really like Glocks, as they are very easy to use.
---several different kinds of rifles
---All kinds of 22 caliber pistols and rifles
---AK 47
---357 Magnum
---44 Magnum
---Mossberg sawed-off single shot shotgun (ouch, that one hurts to shoot and is VERY hard to control)
---Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol 8)
---I shot a 50 caliber revolver too, but I can't remember what it was
---I shot some sort of crazy automatic machine gun thing, but I can't remember what that was either. ;D
---I shot some sort of modified handgun that was made into an automatic, total gangsta gun!
---I used to have a SUPER light, tiny 357 revolver, but it was so small that it killed my hand when I shot it.
With arms like that do you really need firearms? ;)
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I'm down in Arvilla-land this week... let me know if you want me to kick his ass for you.
{raising my hand} :D
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Shit, I wish I could convince my wife to learn to shot. I only own one gun which I wish she'd learn how to use (she doesn't need to go shooting all the time).
You should teach her or put her through a class, esp if the gun is in the house. :)
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Chicks with guns are hot!!
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i have too many to count!
i keep a 12 guage pump Benelli by the bed, AK47 in the closet and a Glock .40 everywhere i go since i have my permit.
one thing i learned growing up in the country is how to shoot guns and lots of them. i have over 15 rifles, 7 shotguns and 4 pistols.
another thing i learned when i moved to Houston was to carry everywhere i go, even the grocery store. my dad's best friend got held up at knife point in a well lit kroger parking lot, he used to carry his gun but forgot that day because he didn't plan on being gone very long. he got stabbed 4 times for 7 dollars... ::)
rifles are my favorite, i like to shoot them at about 300 yards. the pure power of a 7 mag is enough to make any man/woman addicted to shooting one but they pack a punch.
8)
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You should teach her or put her through a class, esp if the gun is in the house. :)
I've tried & tried. Hell I also want her to learn so if she ever feels compelled to shot me she'll go for the kill instead of wounding me. ;D
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I've tried & tried. Hell I also want her to learn so if she ever feels compelled to shot me she'll go for the kill instead of wounding me. ;D
If not, just give her a 12-gauge.
Of course, she could also use her newfound marksmanship skills to kill you slowly – one organ at a time in alphabetical order.
:)
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I am not a lady and I don't carry a gun
But I have shot from smallest to biggest.
.22 silhouette pistol (My dads)
Walter PPK .32 (the original 007 gun also my dads)
9mm Browning.
UZI
AK47
R4 5.56 Galil
FN 7.62
FN MAG Machine gun (this was the best one)
40 mm snot nose grenade launcher
60mm Patrol mortar
RPG7
105mm recoilless jeep mounted canon
And NO I have not shot at any one even though I have come under sniper fire :)
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Chicks with guns are hot!!
I agree, one of my female buddies carries a blade, which she has used by the way.... in self defense of course.
I find that hot ;D
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{raising my hand} :D
LOL! ;D
Okay... I'm at the Renaissance in Boca. Send Mike on down, and if I have time before my flight on Saturday, I'll kick his ass!
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LOL! ;D
Okay... I'm at the Renaissance in Boca. Send Mike on down, and if I have time before my flight on Saturday, I'll kick his ass!
{giggle}
Kewl! ...but will you protect me from Laura when she comes to kick my tush?
I might be down there too. We've got a big wing ding going on in Hollywood on Saturday.
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LOL! ;D
Okay... I'm at the Renaissance in Boca. Send Mike on down, and if I have time before my flight on Saturday, I'll kick his ass!
I'm betting that Laura can handle Mike. 8)
You guys should totally have a little get together though...I'd love to see the pics! :D
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It seems Goat is down here in So. Fla often and has offered an invite to "meet" him at different places. I just don't think he would actually come up to us if we were to show. He likes being incognito here on the boards and meeting us would ruin that for him.
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LOL! ;D
Okay... I'm at the Renaissance in Boca. Send Mike on down, and if I have time before my flight on Saturday, I'll kick his ass!
hahahaha, oh brother, i'm sure Mike is absolutely terrified. ::)
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hahahaha, oh brother, i'm sure Mike is absolutely terrified. ::)
To be truthful Squad, I don't think it would ever come to a physical altercation. Most who meet Mike, like him.
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To be truthful Squad, I don't think it would ever come to a physical altercation. Most who meet Mike, like him.
yeah i know but Mike doesn't look like the type of guy who takes shit off anyone.
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I've also owned and/or shot:
---all kinds of glocks...I personally really like Glocks, as they are very easy to use.
---several different kinds of rifles
---All kinds of 22 caliber pistols and rifles
---AK 47
---357 Magnum
---44 Magnum
---Mossberg sawed-off single shot shotgun (ouch, that one hurts to shoot and is VERY hard to control)
---Desert Eagle 50 caliber pistol 8)
---I shot a 50 caliber revolver too, but I can't remember what it was
---I shot some sort of crazy automatic machine gun thing, but I can't remember what that was either. ;D
---I shot some sort of modified handgun that was made into an automatic, total gangsta gun!
---I used to have a SUPER light, tiny 357 revolver, but it was so small that it killed my hand when I shot it.
I read somewhere that woman that shoot too many different guns within a short period of time run the risk of turning into lesbians
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I read somewhere that woman that shoot too many different guns within a short period of time run the risk of turning into lesbians
I'm gonna need a source on that one. Does that necessarily have to be a bad thing? ;)
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To be truthful Squad, I don't think it would ever come to a physical altercation. Most who meet Mike, like him.
I heard Derek Anthony spit on him! :o
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I heard Derek Anthony spit on him! :o
That was Vince G...........got spit on..........
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I heard Derek Anthony spit on him! :o
Weird, I heard you swallowed spit Derek Anthony out. :o
j/k my little friend ;)
we know you swallowed ;D
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That was Vince G...........got spit on..........
Vince, Arvilla... what's the diffo? ;D
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Weird, I heard you swallowed spit Derek Anthony out. :o
j/k my little friend ;)
we know you swallowed ;D
You still workin' hard at that low-paying secretarial job supporting Mike while he's "living the dream"?
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Yes I have a license to carry. I have a .380 semi-auto with a 10 round clip. I take it when I go places at night if I don't have a man with me. It's cute and fits in the palm of my hand...bullet goes in small, comes out big, especially because I load it with hollow points... ;D
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I have a .380 semi-auto with a 10 round clip. I take it when I go places at night if I don't have a man with me.
Don't let that stop you.
:)
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Don't let that stop you.
:)
To tell the truth I usually have it with me anyway...Just trying to preserve the mans dignity...like the first couple of times Alex23 came up to visit, I had it with me, and it was loaded...After that, I had no worries that he could take care of any situation that came up. I totally trust his ability to handle any situation...He would defend me like I was his mother or sister...God help the poor idiot that tried to hurt me...Then there's Vic...He scares the crap outta guys, just looking at them...
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To tell the truth I usually have it with me anyway...
:)
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You still workin' hard at that low-paying secretarial job supporting Mike while he's "living the dream"?
Are you still too chicken shit to actually meet up with us? ;)
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Laura's and Rips natural guns are enough to scare the crap outta me :o
so since I'm lacking those , yes I have a license and carry a pretty little stainless 22 automatic , he fits in my hand very well ,and I love the feeling I get when he shoots the load
;D I call him Bubba
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Laura's and Rips natural guns are enough to scare the crap outta me :o
so since I'm lacking those , yes I have a license and carry a pretty little stainless 22 automatic , he fits in my hand very well ,and I love the feeling I get when he shoots the load
;D I call him Bubba
LOL very nice! :D
I think that Mike and Goatboy should challenge each other to a duel...I'll supply the weapons. ;D
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Do any of the women on this board have a license to carry a firearm?
If they don't, they probably will after listening to this 911 call:
Listen at your own risk ladies...
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What a great way for RipItUp to scare off stalkers! Let them know you have a gun and that you are licensed to use it. Classic!
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If they don't, they probably will after listening to this 911 call:
Listen at your own risk ladies...
Holy cow, it's Will Brink! Hi Will!! :D
I'm too chicken to listen...I won't even watch half the videos on the X board... :-[
What a great way for RipItUp to scare off stalkers! Let them know you have a gun and that you are licensed to use it. Classic!
You're on to me! I'm a really good shot too. 8)
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Holy cow, it's Will Brink! Hi Will!! :D
I'm too chicken to listen...I won't even watch half the videos on the X board... :-[
You're on to me! I'm a really good shot too. 8)
you can't listen to that rip , it's disturbing
it's a 911 call from a woman who was harassed several times by the same man ,she shot him three times and killed him after he broke into her house , into her bedroom and attacked her when she was holding a gun
no doubt she'd be near dead herself if she didn't have the gun
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you can't listen to that rip , it's disturbing
it's a 911 call from a woman who was harassed several times by the same man ,she shot him three times and killed him after he broke into her house , into her bedroom and attacked her when she was holding a gun
no doubt she'd be near dead herself if she didn't have the gun
guns don't kill people, rappers do, I saw it on a documentary on bbc 2.
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guns don't kill people, rappers do, I saw it on a documentary on bbc 2.
maybe it would go better on BET ::)
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maybe it would go better on BET ::)
Ask any politican and they'll tell you its true, Its a fact music makes you violent, Like Michael Jackson telling little Timmy to be silent,
You don't believe me? Heres my hype, Offer me the record and i'll show you the type, Of criminal this rap shit is breedin,
Its a fact that MC Hammer left me bleedin, Vanilla Ice made my mother say 'Fuck', If I stuck with UB40 then I woulda been in luck,
But I didn't -------- I got it wrong, Cypress fucking hill to me to make a fucking bong, So I started, I bought another tape, That bad boy vibe made my cock and balls ache,
So remember kids from the head double tap..................... ......................
Guns don't kill people its just rap!
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Country and Pop music is primarily about love and/or broken hearts
Rock is pretty much about getting laid
Punk is about payback
Rap is about poverty and violence
Opera is about...well I dunno because 9 times outta 10 it's in a foreign language, lol
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:D davidpaul , nice post ,hmmm , hiding your talent ?
Cool Laura , Spot On , great descriptions ;D
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:D davidpaul , nice post ,hmmm , hiding your talent ?
Cool Laura , Spot On , great descriptions ;D
Guns don't kill people rappers do, I seen it in a documentary on BBC2,
Shot to death outside Hyper Value, Guns blazin like Michael Cain in Zulu,
Guns with sadistic are sometimes misleading, The type of criminal that rap is breedin,
Shot in the chest? No wonder you stopped breathin, 2 for the base over, are you receivin?
Remember rap tracks in '87 - Scott the Rock's up ni Hip-Hop heaven,
Biggie and Tupac R.I.P, Even Jam Master Jays in the cemetary.
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in bugsy malone cool whip kills people!
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Holy cow, it's Will Brink! Hi Will!! :D
Waz up kid?
I'm too chicken to listen...I won't even watch half the videos on the X board... :-[
Every women should listen to that, then let us know how "guns never solved anything."
Related info of interest:
WOMEN, 911 AND GUNS
American women are often taught to rely on emergency 911 police
responses in the event of physical aggression. Unfortunately, more
than 95 percent of 911 calls are not dispatched to police in time to
stop a crime or arrest a suspect.
This sad statistic is unlikely to improve significantly in the near
future because almost every state has ruled that police have no legal
obligation to protect citizens from crime.
The slowness of 911 emergency response -- and the ineffectiveness of
restraining orders issued by today's courts -- suggests that
self-defense may be a better option, according to attorneys Richard
Stevens, Hugo Teufel and Matthew Biscan.
"A woman with a firearm...can credibly threaten and deter an attacker
of any size, shape, or strength," they write in THE WOMEN'S
QUARTERLY. "Even though weaker and unskilled in the use of firearms,
she can sometimes protect herself with a sidearm without firing a
shot. In more than 92 percent of defensive gun uses, the defender
succeeds by firing only a warning shot or never firing the gun at
all." (The article is excerpted from their chapter in the Independent
Institute book LIBERTY FOR WOMEN: Freedom and Feminism in the
Twenty-first Century, edited by Wendy McElroy.)
The above may help explain why, in recent years, women have
reportedly purchased firearms and enrolled in gun-safety classes in
record numbers.
Stevens, Teufel and Biscan conclude: "Individual women in peril quite
frequently fare better when they develop skill and confidence in the
carrying and using of defensive firearms. Victim disarmament ("gun
control") laws that discourage women from developing the skills and
using defensive firearms actually heighten the risks of criminal
violence that women face. Such laws place women at a disadvantage
against violent men and run against the feminist goal of equal
treatment under the law."
See "Disarming Women," by Richard W. Stevens, Hugo Teufel III, and
Matthew Y. Biscan (THE WOMEN'S QUARTERLY, Summer 2002)
http://www.independent.org/tii/lighthouse/LHLink4-30-3.html
A longer version of this article appears in LIBERTY FOR WOMEN:
Freedom and Feminism in the Twenty-first Century, edited by Wendy
McElroy. See http://independent.org/tii/content/briefs/b_lfw.html
***********************************************************************
Professor Joseph Olson Hamline University School of Law
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you can't listen to that rip , it's disturbing
it's a 911 call from a woman who was harassed several times by the same man ,she shot him three times and killed him after he broke into her house , into her bedroom and attacked her when she was holding a gun
no doubt she'd be near dead herself if she didn't have the gun
Would have probably ended more like this:
orlandosentinel.com/news/local/seminole/orl-twodead2707sep27,0,580911.story
OrlandoSentinel.com
2 students shot dead had sought cops' help
Walter Pacheco
Sentinel Staff Writer
September 27, 2007
Click here to find out more!
Roughly three hours before they died, Tiffany Barwick and Michael Ruschak asked Seminole County deputy sheriffs for protection from the man they feared would kill them.
Andrew Allred, Barwick's former boyfriend, had raided her bank account, tampered with her MySpace page and sent phony messages to her family and friends, she told deputies. He e-mailed Ruschak saying, "The next time I see you, I'm going to kill you," and sent Barwick an image of herself covered with bullet holes, a report of the meeting states.
A deputy replied that he could do nothing at that time.
Later on Monday night, Allred plowed into Barwick's car outside Ruschak's home in Oviedo, broke in and shot him dead. He then walked into the bathroom, where Barwick was hiding, and shot her, according to the arrest report. (Hear new audio of the 911 calls made from the home.)
Another man who tried to wrestle the gun from Allred was shot in the leg.
Sheriff's officials defended the agency's handling of the plea for help, recounted in a four-page report released Wednesday. The deputy who responded to Barwick and Ruschak's complaints did "the best he could," Chief Deputy Steven Harriett said.
"The deputy and everyone in this department truly regrets that these two young people lost their lives in this way, but the deputy had to deal with the information available at the time," Harriett said. "He made a decision he thought was the most appropriate."
Carol Wick, chief executive officer of Harbor House, an organization that offers shelter to victims of domestic violence, said the case should make the Sheriff's Office reconsider its procedures. What happened, she said, "It's just tragic."
Allred, 21, is being held without bail at John Polk Correctional Facility in Sanford, where he faces two counts of homicide, attempted homicide and armed burglary in the shootings on Shady Oak Lane.
Acquaintances said he was bitter about his breakup with Barwick, a student at Seminole Community College, and directed his anger at her and Ruschak, a student at the University of Central Florida. The three had been friends, according to these accounts, until Barwick ended her relationship with Allred in August.
Sheriff's records show that Barwick, 19, first called deputies at 11:30 a.m. Monday alleging that Allred had tapped into her Bank of America account and withdrawn money without her permission.
At 7:09 p.m. she told another deputy that Allred just sent Ruschak, 22, a message threatening his life and that he had recently purchased a gun. She pleaded with the deputy to "lock him [Allred] up."
Seminole Deputy Peter Sean Brewer, who met with Barwick and Ruschak, wrote in his report that "Allred's actions did not meet the necessary elements for a charge of assault. and as such, I could not arrest him for making those threats."
He said the law required him to observe harassing communications to make an arrest, but that he would forward her complaint and other materials to the State Attorney's Office for consideration of possible charges.
He advised her to seek a protective court order against Allred and to keep records of any e-mails, text messages and voice messages from him. Other suggestions included changing her cell-phone number and calling 911 if she saw Allred's vehicle.
Investigators said gunfire broke out about 10:30 p.m. during a party at Ruschak's home. Oviedo police later arrested Allred at the home he shares with his family in Oviedo. Officers said he confessed to the crimes and asked them about the condition of "the ones that were shot," according to the arrest report.
He told officers he went to the house to ram his girlfriend's car but shot his way through a sliding glass door when he could not enter the front door. Authorities recovered the handgun they think he used.
Oviedo Lt. Dennis Lynch said homicide investigators are reviewing 911 calls made from the house on the night of the shooting.
Friends and family had mixed reactions on the events that led to Monday's shooting.
"My opinion is that if you get a restraining order, it is just a piece of paper," said Ruschak's mother, Janice. "I know police are doing their best, and I don't want to blame them."
Even if Barwick had sought a protective order against Allred, the forms must be filed at the Seminole County Courthouse, then sent to a judge and finally the Sheriff's Office.
Court officials said the process could take a day or two.
Wick said she doubted it would have helped.
"Allred would not have been served the order in time and, even if he was, who knows if that would have stopped him?" Wick said. "Sometimes there's nothing you can do about it."
Two Seminole County crime-scene technicians continued working Wednesday at the duplex where the shootings took place, gathering evidence.
Barwick's white Chevrolet Cavalier, its back caved in, sat about 15 feet from the front door. Still in the driveway was Ruschak's car, an old police cruiser, a black Ford Crown Victoria with a search light attached to the driver's side.
Phone messages left Wednesday with Allred's mother were not immediately returned. A neighbor described Allred as "a very smart kid" who was a computer whiz. Others also commented on his technological skill, but expressed shock at the charges against him.
"He is a very intelligent man. Never in a million years would I have suspected this," said Daniel Morman, a UCF student who spent time watching movies, drinking beer and building bonfires at Allred's rural home. "He didn't appear to have that in him. I guess you always hope your friends are good people."
But former UCF student Erinn Redd, who knew Allred and Ruschak since their days at Oviedo High School, remembered Allred as "deviously clever and capable of taking matters to the extreme."
He had threatened other friends in the past, she said. "But we never expected him to go murder someone."
Rene Stutzman of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Walter Pacheco can be reached at wpacheco@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-6262.
Copyright © 2007, Orlando Sentinel
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Jodie Foster "The Brave One" she didn't take any shit! ;)
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What is sad is how easy it makes it (taking a life) when armed with a fire arm. It's like point and shot, that's all, nothing to it, no remorse, no thought that you just removed someone's life.
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What is sad is how easy it makes it (taking a life) when armed with a fire arm.
Did the women in that 911 call sound like it was easy?
It's like point and shot, that's all, nothing to it, no remorse, no thought that you just removed someone's life.
Me thinks you may have seen one too many movies. People that have no remorse when taking another persons life are sociopaths and the tool matters not. Most people, including police and soldiers, feel a great deal of remorse when they have to kill someone, and again, the tool matters not. The easy "point and shoot part" works in both directions for criminals and law abiding people, and as it shows above, the only thing that makes a 120lb women the equal of a 200lb rapist is a gun.
What's sad is there are people out there who do not feel remorse when they take anothers life, and the only thing that stands between them and you is a means of self defense if 911, etc does not stop them.
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Did the women in that 911 call sound like it was easy?
Me thinks you may have seen one too many movies. People that have no remorse when taking another persons life are sociopaths and the tool matters not. Most people, including police and soldiers, feel a great deal of remorse when they have to kill someone, and again, the tool matters not. The easy "point and shoot part" works in both directions for criminals and law abiding people, and as it shows above, the only thing that makes a 120lb women the equal of a 200lb rapist is a gun.
What's sad is there are people out there who do not feel remorse when they take anothers life, and the only thing that stands between them and you is a means of self defense if 911, etc does not stop them.
WRONG!........................ ..try killing someone with your bare hands(it's much more "personal"and difficult!)
pointing and pulling a trigger makes it too easy to kill(i have blasted half a forest of wild creatures away with out even trying!.................if i had to kill them with a knife/or my bare hands it would have never happened)
your a safe distance away with a gun..................... .....try beating someone to death with your fists
(big difference!)
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WRONG!........................ ..try killing someone with your bare hands(it's much more "personal"and difficult!)
pointing and pulling a trigger makes it too easy to kill(i have blasted half a forest of wild creatures away with out even trying!.................if i had to kill them with a knife/or my bare hands it would have never happened)
Hmm, is that right? You speculate minus facts or data. I covered fully the "easy" part above. Now, let's work on the basic facts that exist:
The Cold, Hard Facts About Guns
by Dr. John R. Lott, Jr.
America may indeed be obsessed with guns, but much of what passes as fact simply isn't true. The news media's focus on only tragic outcomes, while ignoring tragic events that were avoided, may be responsible for some misimpressions. Horrific events like the recent shooting in Arkansas receive massive news coverage, as they should, but the 2.5 million times each year that people use guns defensively are never discussed--including cases where public shootings are stopped before they happen.
Unfortunately, these misimpressions have real costs for people's safety. Many myths needlessly frighten people and prevent them from defending themselves most effectively.
Myth No. 1: When one is attacked, passive behavior is the safest approach.
The Department of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey reports that the probability of serious injury from an attack is 2.5 times greater for women offering no resistance than for women resisting with a gun. Men also benefit from using a gun, but the benefits are smaller: offering no resistance is 1.4 times more likely to result in serious injury than resisting with a gun.
Myth No. 2: Friends or relatives are the most likely killers.
The myth is usually based on two claims: 1) 58 percent of murder victims are killed by either relatives or acquaintances and 2) anyone could be a murderer.
With the broad definition of "acquaintances" used in the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports, most victims are indeed classified as knowing their killer. However, what is not made clear is that acquaintance murder primarily includes drug buyers killing drug pushers, cabdrivers killed by first-time customers, gang members killing other gang members, prostitutes killed by their clients, and so on. Only one city, Chicago, reports a precise breakdown on the nature of acquaintance killings: between 1990 and 1995 just 17 percent of murder victims were either family members, friends, neighbors and/or roommates.
Murderers also are not your average citizen. For example, about 90 percent of adult murderers have already had a criminal record as an adult. Murderers are overwhelmingly young males with low IQs and who have difficult times getting along with others. Furthermore, unfortunately, murder is disproportionately committed against blacks and by blacks.
Myth No. 3: The United States has such a high murder rate because Americans own so many guns.
There is no international evidence backing this up. The Swiss, New Zealanders and Finns all own guns as frequently as Americans, yet in 1995 Switzerland had a murder rate 40 percent lower than Germany's, and New Zealand had one lower than Australia's. Finland and Sweden have very different gun ownership rates, but very similar murder rates. Israel, with a higher gun ownership rate than the U.S., has a murder rate 40 percent below Canada's. When one studies all countries rather than just a select few as is usually done, there is absolutely no relationship between gun ownership and murder.
Myth No. 4: If law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed handguns, people will end up shooting each other after traffic accidents as well as accidentally shooting police officers.
Millions of people currently hold concealed handgun permits, and some states have issued them for as long as 60 years. Yet, only one permit holder has ever been arrested for using a concealed handgun after a traffic accident and that case was ruled as self-defense. The type of person willing to go through the permitting process is extremely law-abiding. In Florida, almost 444,000 licenses were granted from 1987 to 1997, but only 84 people have lost their licenses for felonies involving firearms. Most violations that lead to permits being revoked involve accidentally carrying a gun into restricted areas, like airports or schools. In Virginia, not a single permit holder has committed a violent crime. Similarly encouraging results have been reported for Kentucky, Nevada, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas and Tennessee (the only other states where information is available).
Myth No. 5: The family gun is more likely to kill you or someone you know than to kill in self-defense.
The studies yielding such numbers never actually inquired as to whose gun was used in the killing. Instead, if a household owned a gun and if a person in that household or someone they knew was shot to death while in the home, the gun in the household was blamed. In fact, virtually all the killings in these studies were committed by guns brought in by an intruder. No more than four percent of the gun deaths can be attributed to the homeowner's gun. The very fact that most people were killed by intruders also surely raises questions about why they owned guns in the first place and whether they had sufficient protection.
How many attacks have been deterred from ever occurring by the potential victims owning a gun? My own research finds that more concealed handguns, and increased gun ownership generally, unambiguously deter murders, robbery, and aggravated assaults. This is also in line with the well-known fact that criminals prefer attacking victims that they consider weak.
These are only some of the myths about guns and crime that drive the public policy debate. We must not lose sight of the ultimate question: Will allowing law-abiding citizens to own guns save lives? The evidence strongly indicates that it does.
This article fist appeared in the Chicago Tribune on May 8, 1998 and is reprenited here with the author's permission.
Dr. John Lott, Jr. is the John M. Olin law and economics fellow at the University of Chicago School of Law,
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I used to be a firearms instructor both for the Marines & for civilians.
Women are easier to train. Call it attention to detail....but they sometimes can shoot better than men.
Men usually have this ego of "I know what I'm doing" and can be very hard to get through to them of what they are doing wrong or breaking old/bad habits.
We used to be able to take women by the second day of ever firing a handgun/rifle & out shoot most males thats been shooting them for years.
I have a natural 'gift' of precision or tactical shooting. In the Marines, I had two different range high scores both in the pistol & rifle. I was asked to join the Marine Corps Shooting Team on 3 different occasions....but...there's alot of politics & I refused to get involved in just because I can shoot. More or less...I felt that I would have been taken advantage of for someone else's personal goals.
I can shoot 500 yards with the M16A2...regular sights...& put all 10 rounds in a 4 inch spotter. The guys in the pits used to always come back after pulling my targets & would swear I was using optics. But when you have over 100+ Marines behind you verifying your shots...thats all the proof I needed especially with the scores recorded in my SRB.
It's kind of weird though. Although I have this natural talent...I've basically walked away from it all about 8 years ago for absolutely no reason. Would of, should of, could of....but nah....I have no regrets
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I used to be a firearms instructor both for the Marines & for civilians.
Women are easier to train. Call it attention to detail....but they sometimes can shoot better than men.
Men usually have this ego of "I know what I'm doing" and can be very hard to get through to them of what they are doing wrong or breaking old/bad habits.
We used to be able to take women by the second day of ever firing a handgun/rifle & out shoot most males thats been shooting them for years.
I have a natural 'gift' of precision or tactical shooting. In the Marines, I had two different range high scores both in the pistol & rifle. I was asked to join the Marine Corps Shooting Team on 3 different occasions....but...there's alot of politics & I refused to get involved in just because I can shoot. More or less...I felt that I would have been taken advantage of for someone else's personal goals.
I can shoot 500 yards with the M16A2...regular sights...& put all 10 rounds in a 4 inch spotter. The guys in the pits used to always come back after pulling my targets & would swear I was using optics. But when you have over 100+ Marines behind you verifying your shots...thats all the proof I needed especially with the scores recorded in my SRB.
It's kind of weird though. Although I have this natural talent...I've basically walked away from it all about 8 years ago for absolutely no reason. Would of, should of, could of....but nah....I have no regrets
That has been my experience too and the experience of every instructor I know: women are far better than men at shooting as beginners. Women generally do what they are told, and do it well. Men bring their ego and pre conceived notions on guns. Really pisses off the guy when you teach a couple together and the woman is a better shot than he is within minutes. :-)
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...............if i had to kill them with a knife/or my bare hands it would have never happened)
A very typical response of people who focus on the tool vs the outcome and put what they think they could/would do vs what criminals and sociopaths will do.
For example, The US murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Scotland /Glasgow had one of the highest murder rates in Western Europe at 58.7 per million. Strict guns laws, and a "knife culture" that seems to have no problems killing more people than we do per capita. To learn more about their "knife culture" see:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4031405.stm
And yes, they can claim a low gun crime there....
What was the most number of people killed in the shortest period of time ever recorded between people? 800,000 in 100 days during the Rwanda genocide, and it was done almost exclusively with edged weapons (machetes, etc).
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A very typical response of people who focus on the tool vs the outcome and put what they think they could/would do vs what criminals and sociopaths will do.
For example, The US murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Scotland /Glasgow had one of the highest murder rates in Western Europe at 58.7 per million. Strict guns laws, and a "knife culture" that seems to have no problems killing more people than we do per capita. To learn more about their "knife culture" see:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4031405.stm
And yes, they can claim a low gun crime there....
What was the most number of people killed in the shortest period of time ever recorded between people? 800,000 in 100 days during the Rwanda genocide, and it was done almost exclusively with edged weapons (machetes, etc).
I am both a criminal and a sociopath Will...............
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I am both a criminal and a sociopath Will...............
Then the data shows us you would find a way to kill people as criminals and sociopaths always have...
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Then the data shows us you would find a way to kill people as criminals and sociopaths always have...
It was self-defense!!!!........................ ........
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Yes....a gun can make it easier to point & shoot when trying to kill someone.
The old expression goes.....
"God made man....and Sam Colt made them equal".
But realistically....nobody here can really say how easy it is to kill a human being unless they've actually done it. Taking a life of a rodent, or animal, is a little different than stopping the vitals of a human being. There's another whole set of interworkings the mind has to deal with.
There also is some difference between a Soldier following orders, & a General issuing orders. In some ways, they are really one in the same, but I find being issued orders takes some of the guilt off the soldier behind the trigger. The only problem is, the more you're behind the trigger...you change (sociology) whether you want to or not. Some make different adjustments to reality than others.
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Yes....a gun can make it easier to point & shoot when trying to kill someone.
The old expression goes.....
"God made man....and Sam Colt made them equal".
But realistically....nobody here can really say how easy it is to kill a human being unless they've actually done it. Taking a life of a rodent, or animal, is a little different than stopping the vitals of a human being. There's another whole set of interworkings the mind has to deal with.
There also is some difference between a Soldier following orders, & a General issuing orders. In some ways, they are really one in the same, but I find being issued orders takes some of the guilt off the soldier behind the trigger. The only problem is, the more you're behind the trigger...you change (sociology) whether you want to or not. Some make different adjustments to reality than others.
I (seriously) shot my sisters boyfriend in the hand (i was young probaly 17 -18 )............i honestly think it would be pretty easy (for me anyways) to shoot someone (esp if they were threating me or my loved ones)
im not saying im the "norm" ..................but i def think guns make it easy/easier to shoot/kill/maim people
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Lemme clarify: my dad (navy/korean war vet) got sick when i was 11-12, tons of guns and ammo in the house (mom was too busy taking care of my dad to worry about me)
i got in a lot of trouble (brought guns to school/shot at older kids who stole my go-cart and were taking turns driving it/beating the shit outta it/fired a pistol in my basement and watched the " ricochets")
i had to "learn" to respect guns (and what they can do)
im lucky i didn't kill anyone
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Mike.....
trust me....if you were a sociopath.....you would have killed someone already just for kicks.
Saying how easy it is....& not actually killing someone proves that it's not that easy.
Otherwise...you would have driven down by the border & popped off a few aliens for kicks (which people do).
I've shot my friend in the leg as a kid, threw a dart in the chest of another friend, knocked another friend completely unconscious with a piece of wood where he was on the ground doing the funky chicken in convulsions. It's a little different than trying to take the life of a human being.
I personally could kill someone with a spoon....or a gun. The emotional response will be the same...other than the manner it was done in.
Also....to any one out here that want to say how easy it is to kill someone with a gun....have you ever seen someone first hand shot by a gun? Do they always die? Is it really just one shot bam they're dead? If that was the case, the causality rate over in Iraq would be tenfold. I've seen guys stabbed 1 time....& die. I've also seen others stabbed over 20-30 times & still live. The fact is...killing is an art, a science, a skill, & realistically a profession. Too many amateurs watch movies a believe if they drop a cap in someone that they're going to automatically die. Most people die by damn luck to be honest with you.
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The fact is...killing is an art, a science, a skill, & realistically a profession. Too many amateurs watch movies a believe if they drop a cap in someone that they're going to automatically die. Most people die by damn luck to be honest with you.
Well put. You speak the truth...
"Though defensive violence will always be 'a sad necessity' in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men." - St. Augustine A.D. 354-430
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You guys aren't getting the jist of what is being said, you are too busy defending guns and using statistics.
What is being said is that it is easier to point and shoot. BANG! It's done, you took a life (assuming you got a lethal shot in), they don't have to be 1 foot away to do so...but if you had were to stab someone or strangle someone...well, that's much more personal, you have to feel the person, touch the person, feel the blood in your hands, watch the life drain from their eyes.
To me, it is a totally different thing.
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You guys aren't getting the jist of what is being said, you are too busy defending guns and using statistics.
What is being said is that it is easier to point and shoot. BANG! It's done, you took a life (assuming you got a lethal shot in), they don't have to be 1 foot away to do so...but if you had were to stab someone or strangle someone...well, that's much more personal, you have to feel the person, touch the person, feel the blood in your hands, watch the life drain from their eyes.
To me, it is a totally different thing.
Thank you!!!.......................
(now Will is going to quote/post a 6000000 word rebuttal that noone is going to bother to read!)
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You guys aren't getting the jist of what is being said, you are too busy defending guns and using statistics.
What is being said is that it is easier to point and shoot. BANG! It's done, you took a life (assuming you got a lethal shot in), they don't have to be 1 foot away to do so...but if you had were to stab someone or strangle someone...well, that's much more personal, you have to feel the person, touch the person, feel the blood in your hands, watch the life drain from their eyes.
To me, it is a totally different thing.
Whats easier....
Pulling a trigger....
Or driving a 3000+ pound car over someone?
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Jodie Foster "The Brave One" she didn't take any shit! ;)
I'm watching that this weekend , :D , is it good ????????
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If the mad rapist breaks into my house, I'm going to shoot him hopefully from several feet away.
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I'm watching that this weekend , :D , is it good ????????
yes ..................very!
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Whats easier....
Pulling a trigger....
Or driving a 3000+ pound car over someone?
who can say unless you have done both.................... ..if i were to guess
for me pulling a trigger be easier
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You guys aren't getting the jist of what is being said, you are too busy defending guns and using statistics.
What is being said is that it is easier to point and shoot. BANG! It's done, you took a life (assuming you got a lethal shot in), they don't have to be 1 foot away to do so...but if you had were to stab someone or strangle someone...well, that's much more personal, you have to feel the person, touch the person, feel the blood in your hands, watch the life drain from their eyes.
To me, it is a totally different thing.
Brilliant breakdown
It takes a helluva lot more rage/passion to be within a foot of killing in a manner other than with a gun.True and I won't budge my belief in that.
Killing isn't act act of a sociopath , not being remorseful makes a freak a freak.
If the mad rapist breaks into my house, I'm going to shoot him hopefully from several feet away.
If anyone makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up the safety comes off.
You have very little chance of making a kill. Make sure to aim for the biggest area (gut/torso) , they will bend in pain , keep shooting until you're empty
then reload and call 911
Whats easier....
Pulling a trigger....
Or driving a 3000+ pound car over someone?
all depends I think
I could do both but pulling a trigger is my answer
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Whats easier....
Pulling a trigger....
Or driving a 3000+ pound car over someone?
Easier? I'd say pulling the trigger. Again, you don't have to be in close proximity to the person and they're not going to fly up onto your windshield.
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With the advent of video games ("shoot em ups" with realistic looking guns)
bb and air rifles/pistols looking just like the real thing
"pulling the trigger" is becomming increasingly easier to fathom/and do!
we are almost "training" our youth in these methods!
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If anyone makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up the safety comes off.
This is another w8m8 gem! You have a way w/words ;D
Make sure to aim for the biggest area (gut/torso) , they will bend in pain , keep shooting until you're empty
then reload and call 911
Good advices.
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STella :-* from a loving place I hope nobody ever needs to remember that advice
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STella :-* from a loving place I hope nobody ever needs to remember that advice
Me too! :-*
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You guys aren't getting the jist of what is being said, you are too busy defending guns and using statistics.
What is being said is that it is easier to point and shoot. BANG! It's done, you took a life (assuming you got a lethal shot in), they don't have to be 1 foot away to do so...but if you had were to stab someone or strangle someone...well, that's much more personal, you have to feel the person, touch the person, feel the blood in your hands, watch the life drain from their eyes.
To me, it is a totally different thing.
Which means you are seeing what you wish to see as the above was in fact covered. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think....
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I'd have to say the average american could drive a car vs the percentages that could shoot a gun let alone know how to load one....aim it...& then squeeze the trigger. ::)
The average gun shooting (combat, law enforcement, civilian) takes place less than 7 feet away. Of those....less than 10% do NOT hit the intended target let alone kill someone.
Jumping off a bridge is easy to do....but why aren't so many people doing it?
Stop watching tv people ::)
We're not all Rambo
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I'd have to say the average american could drive a car vs the percentages that could shoot a gun let alone know how to load one....aim it...& then squeeze the trigger. ::)
The average gun shooting (combat, law enforcement, civilian) takes place less than 7 feet away. Of those....less than 10% do NOT hit the intended target let alone kill someone.
Jumping off a bridge is easy to do....but why aren't so many people doing it?
Stop watching tv people ::)
We're not all Rambo
No?
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I'd have to say the average american could drive a car vs the percentages that could shoot a gun let alone know how to load one....aim it...& then squeeze the trigger. ::)
It's an irrelevant argument anyway, but:
SUV Hits Several Outside California Middle School
Thursday, May 03, 2007
May 2: An SUV sits outside the Ralston Middle School in Belmont.
BELMONT, Calif. — A sport utility vehicle jumped a curb and plowed into a group of California middle school students waiting for a bus, authorities said. Three teenagers were in intensive care Thursday.
About half a dozen children were hit, including several who were trapped under the SUV when it struck a tree outside Ralston Middle School on Wednesday, Police Lt. Dan DeSmidt said. Parents and staff used a jack and collective muscle to lift the SUV and rescue the trapped children, he said.
Fire Chief Doug Fry said 13 children and the SUV's driver were taken to hospitals. Seven went to trauma centers with problems ranging from broken bones to internal injuries, he said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269717,00.html
Later one person said "Nobody needs a vehicle that massive. It can only cause horrific damage with such momentum. It is a terrible public health hazard. If it saves just one life it will be worth it. Think of the children!"
Yah, it's like that....
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You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him think....
wow that statement seems like you see people who don't agree with you as a bit ignorant
Jumping off a bridge is easy to do....but why aren't so many people doing it?
Stop watching tv people ::)
We're not all Rambo
that's a stupid analogy
and an assumption of where someones way of thinking comes from
::) ::)
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yes ..................very!
thanks :)
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wow that statement seems like you see people who don't agree with you as a bit ignorant
I see people who don't use data, facts, and historical context in the gun debate as using their emotions vs objective info. I supplied the former, they supplied the latter. Conclude what you wish from that.
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I see people who don't use data, facts, and historical context in the gun debate as using their emotions vs objective info. I supplied the former, they supplied the latter. Conclude what you wish from that.
do you think emotion plays a part in a stabbing ?
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just your opinion which your entitled to although you have no facts or data to support it
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Bought time for some pictures of hot women packin heat.
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Bought time for some pictures of hot women packin heat.
Nice ;D
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This has turned into a very interesting thread! I would put my two cents in if I weren't at the Arnold! ;D
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Party Hard chicklet ;) some of us have to work ::) and I'll eagerly await your posts....
go have some fun for me :D
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This has turned into a very interesting thread! I would put my two cents in if I weren't at the Arnold! ;D
You got that pudding ready for me Rip? :-*
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You got that pudding ready for me Rip? :-*
I ate it. :-[
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This has turned into a very interesting thread! I would put my two cents in if I weren't at the Arnold! ;D
yea cause your at the Arnold you don't have your computer with you so how would you post........
no wait a sec..............ummm cause your at the Arnold you won't have time to post on Get-Big
nope that's not it!................ummmm you can't put your "two cents" in because the hotel your staying at doesn't have internet capabilities............ .damm it that's not it!
ummmmmmm cause your at the Arnold....ummmmm ..........your fingers are swollen from all the good food and you can't type????
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yea cause your at the Arnold you don't have your computer with you so how would you post........
no wait a sec..............ummm cause your at the Arnold you won't have time to post on Get-Big
nope that's not it!................ummmm you can't put your "two cents" in because the hotel your staying at doesn't have internet capabilities............ .damm it that's not it!
ummmmmmm cause your at the Arnold....ummmmm ..........your fingers are swollen from all the good food and you can't type????
she's taking pictures too :-X
bet we'll never see them ::)
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Here's a couple of the best pics of a girls with guns:
(http://www.alex-in-wonderland.com/GirlsWithGuns/Pictures/A/Images/JessicaAlba1.jpg)
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This has turned into a very interesting thread! I would put my two cents in if I weren't at the Arnold! ;D
I'm at the Arnold too. Just got back from the Expo, taking an hour rest, then out to dinner.
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dantelis, I like your take on this thread. ;D
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dantelis, I like your take on this thread. ;D
So like when are we going to get together and shoot? Ever try IDPA? That's a great way to improve your tactical/defensive shootings skills and it's a lot of fun too. I compete mostly in the MA area, but have gone to a few in NH.
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Yummmmm
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So like when are we going to get together and shoot? Ever try IDPA? That's a great way to improve your tactical/defensive shootings skills and it's a lot of fun too. I compete mostly in the MA area, but have gone to a few in NH.
Sounds like fun! We haven't shot in like over a year. We both need to get some practice in, so we should set something up one of these weekends. The range in Manchester is a bit scary...ever been out to the Smith&Wesson range in western Mass? It's SWEET.
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Sounds like fun! We haven't shot in like over a year. We both need to get some practice in, so we should set something up one of these weekends. The range in Manchester is a bit scary...ever been out to the Smith&Wesson range in western Mass? It's SWEET.
The SnW range is strictly indoor yes? I have been there as they have regular IDPA matches there, but it's been a while. Prefer outdoor if possible. If you guys want to meet up to shoot or try an IDPA match (don't know your experience levels) or what ever, send me an email directly and we will take it from there. See IDPA page for info if interested:
http://www.idpa.com/
IDPA is very welcoming to beginners, so don't hesitate on that front. As long as you are squared away with the basic safety rules of gun handling and generally proficient with your handgun, all shooters are welcome and it's a real blast. People are always friendly and helpful. One of the better places to try one would be at the Braintree MA club, which should not be too far a drive for you guys I believe.
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The SnW range is strictly indoor yes? I have been there as they have regular IDPA matches there, but it's been a while. Prefer outdoor if possible. If you guys want to meet up to shoot or try an IDPA match (don't know your experience levels) or what ever, send me an email directly and we will take it from there. See IDPA page for info if interested:
http://www.idpa.com/
IDPA is very welcoming to beginners, so don't hesitate on that front. As long as you are squared away with the basic safety rules of gun handling and generally proficient with your handgun, all shooters are welcome and it's a real blast. People are always friendly and helpful. One of the better places to try one would be at the Braintree MA club, which should not be too far a drive for you guys I believe.
Yes, it's indoors and it's nice and clean. We like shooting outdoors as well. My husband is a certified NRA instructor, and I used to be pretty experienced, but these days we both could use some practice.
I'll look into it...we should do it up this spring sometime. :)
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I suck at guns. only fired a couple at work once, you'd think I'd be a gun nut but I'm not.
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Talk is cheap...A picture is worth a thousand words.
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Yes, it's indoors and it's nice and clean. We like shooting outdoors as well. My husband is a certified NRA instructor, and I used to be pretty experienced, but these days we both could use some practice.
I'll look into it...we should do it up this spring sometime. :)
Sounds good, let me know. I shoot IDPA outdoor all through the year, but I'm nuts and so are the other people who show up this time of year...supposed to poor rain tomorrow, and I will be out in that shooting at a match....oh well...
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awesome thread!!
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awesome thread!!
Yes, but it looks like we have run out of gals packin' da heat :-[
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Yes, it's indoors and it's nice and clean. We like shooting outdoors as well. My husband is a certified NRA instructor, and I used to be pretty experienced, but these days we both could use some practice.
I'll look into it...we should do it up this spring sometime. :)
To revive this thread, here’s a short vid I put up from an IDPA match I did. It’s hard to film, shoot, get others to film while you shoot, etc, etc, so forgive the incomplete nature of the vid, but I think it gets the idea to those who may have never tried it. Did it as a promo thing…
It was a small match and raining, so I just got some quick vid of the guys in my squad. These are not uber high level shooters (including yours truly) or anything, but as you all know who actually shoot (vs watch TV), shooting well while moving, having other things moving, using cover, tactical reloads, not hitting the “no shoots,” etc, etc is much easier said than done…practice, practice, practice, and all that…
If you have not done an IDPA match, it’s some of the best training a civilian can get on a regular basis without going broke (can’t fly off to Thunder Ranch every weekend!) and great for most LEO who may not get much shooting time via their depts., and such, which is why a good % of shooters at IDPA are LEO. Enjoy:
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To revive this thread, here’s a short vid I put up from an IDPA match I did. It’s hard to film, shoot, get others to film while you shoot, etc, etc, so forgive the incomplete nature of the vid, but I think it gets the idea to those who may have never tried it. Did it as a promo thing…
It was a small match and raining, so I just got some quick vid of the guys in my squad. These are not uber high level shooters (including yours truly) or anything, but as you all know who actually shoot (vs watch TV), shooting well while moving, having other things moving, using cover, tactical reloads, not hitting the “no shoots,” etc, etc is much easier said than done…practice, practice, practice, and all that…
If you have not done an IDPA match, it’s some of the best training a civilian can get on a regular basis without going broke (can’t fly off to Thunder Ranch every weekend!) and great for most LEO who may not get much shooting time via their depts., and such, which is why a good % of shooters at IDPA are LEO. Enjoy:
That looks like a lot of fun. My husband's done the ones on the big TV where you are faced with situations, like walking into the bank and having someone pull a gun and take a hostage. That wasn't a competitive type thing though. How'd the competition go for ya?
We gotta get out there and give it a go sometime. See you this weekend Will!! :)
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That looks like a lot of fun. My husband's done the ones on the big TV where you are faced with situations, like walking into the bank and having someone pull a gun and take a hostage. That wasn't a competitive type thing though. How'd the competition go for ya?
We gotta get out there and give it a go sometime. See you this weekend Will!! :)
Well let me know when you wanna try one. There is one almost every weekend. See you next weekend!
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Thought this was gunna be a thread about Female bodybuilders with large Clits?!!??!!?
FYI- I could never get myself to own a gun because according to standards set forth by the US Marine Corps, I'm an "Expert Pistol Shooter" having scored 136 out of 140 possible points the FIRST time I ever picked up a firearm, and then scored 122 out of 140 six months later, after an intense deltoid workout.
Imagine how well I can shoot now :-*
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That looks like a lot of fun.
Here's a vid I did from the MA State Championships. Lots of fun:
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(http://www.moviebadgirls.com/gungirlsimage/ggbrooke045.jpg)
One of my favorites:
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Will's video clips are GREAT, but I gotta admit, I like the pics in this thread as well! ;D
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Will's video clips are GREAT, but I gotta admit, I like the pics in this thread as well! ;D
So next time you're in photo shape, why don't we take some cool gun pics? Between your hubby and me, we could get some great pics. I got the "props" for the pics.
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So next time you're in photo shape, why don't we take some cool gun pics? Between your hubby and me, we could get some great pics. I got the "props" for the pics.
I'm down with that! We have some good props too.
The only thing we're missing is a pair of those Sheriff badge pasties...you got any of those? ;)
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I'm down with that! We have some good props too.
Well if you got the body, the cam, and the toys, you don't need me. Got anything that looks like this:
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The only thing we're missing is a pair of those Sheriff badge pasties...you got any of those? ;)
I have several pairs in my gym bag in fact...
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Tarzan like.... :o ;D :o
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:)