Why didn`t god save this extremely religious person?

[Man of Steel]

Isaiah 45:7 says god created evil

So does the book of Amos:

Amos 3:6
King James Version (KJV)

6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

The KJV of the bible uses the term evil differently in different contexts....we don't speak like that today.  

Modern readers don't use the word "evil" to describe "calamity and destruction" today and this is exactly how the term evil was used in the context of the verse you cite and I cite out of the KJV.

[bigmc]

So does the book of Amos:

Amos 3:6
King James Version (KJV)

6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the Lord hath not done it?

The KJV of the bible uses the term evil differently in different contexts....we don't speak like that today.  

Modern readers don't use the word "evil" to describe "calamity and destruction" today and this is exactly how the term evil was used in the context of the verse you cite and I cite out of the KJV.

answer my two points please

[Man of Steel]

answer my two points please

Sorry, I haven't read all the comments in this thread.  What are your questions?  I'll do my best.

[bigmc]

why would god allow the catholic church to be a breeding ground for pedophiles

how would he allow the pope his vehicle on earth to cover that shit up

the harsh reality is religion is about our struggle to accept our mortality

isn't it convenient to think that we go to paradise when we die

this

[Man of Steel]

this

This is a larger question, but I will answer in a couple of hours when I free up more.

[alabama ftw]

Good point MOS. Sometimes we need to stop at "Why God would do x y z". I'm sure He knows why He did it, and answers to no man. All I know, is that God is good to me and faithful and I just trust in His word and try my best.

Do you ever question authority? That was the saddest post in getbigs history. God did an evil thing so it must be right in some way because he is god

[Tedim]

God does not allow or disallow.....he just gives rope (free will), you choose to climb out of the shit and muck, or hand yourself with it.....

If you ask for help, he listens but its up to him if he stretches out his hand or not (his free will)....

Hope this helps. That simple.

[Simple Simon]

God does not allow or disallow.....he just gives rope (free will), you choose to climb out of the shit and muck, or hand yourself with it.....

If you ask for help, he listens but its up to him if he stretches out his hand or not (his free will)....

Hope this helps. That simple.

If God is all knowing then why would he give freewill, he already knows your decisions before you make them.

[Voice of Doom]

You've got to love the circular logic of religion
1. Man attempts dangerous act to show his faith in 'local diety'
2. Man's faith is rewarded by local deity and he lives
3. Man's triumph is displayed to non-believers as proof of 'local deity'
4. Man gets societal rewards for triumph (TV show, Money, Celebrity status)
5. Man attempts dangerous act again to show his faith in 'local deity'
6. Man is killed despite protestations of faith to 'local deity'
7. Man's death is displayed to non-believers as proof of 'local deity'
8. The End

 

[Tedim]

If God is all knowing then why would he give freewill, he already knows your decisions before you make them.

He knows all possible outcomes but he doesnt know which one you will pick.....he lets you surprise or disappoint him.

I also have trouble with all knowing.....maybe all of the past and none of the future. Thats all knowing!

[Tedim]

and in before some idiot asks about the trinity...

Imagine the Sun...physical body, gives off heat and light 3 separate but yet one. 

[alabama ftw]

He knows all possible outcomes but he doesnt know which one you will pick.....he lets you surprise or disappoint him.

I also have trouble with all knowing.....maybe all of the past and none of the future. Thats all knowing!

According to the bible he is all knowing you ignorant twat! Just admit that you have never read the bible.

Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
his understanding has no limit.

1 Samuel 2:3

Talk no more so very proudly,
let not arrogance come from your mouth;
for the LORD is a God of knowledge,
and by him actions are weighed.

Isaiah 55:9

For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.


Job 28:24

For he looks to the ends of the earth
and sees everything under the heavens.

1 John 3:19-20

By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

Hebrews 4:13

And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Isaiah 46:9

I am God, and there is none like me,
declaring the end from the beginning
and from ancient times things not yet done.

Matthew 10:30

But even the hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 139:4

Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.

[Man of Steel]

and in before some idiot asks about the trinity...

Imagine the Sun...physical body, gives off heat and light 3 separate but yet one. 

Or consider time in past, present and future.
Or matter in solid, liquid or gas.
Or measurements in height, width and depth.

[Man of Steel]

According to the bible he is all knowing you ignorant twat! Just admit that you have never read the bible.

Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
his understanding has no limit.

1 Samuel 2:3

Talk no more so very proudly,
let not arrogance come from your mouth;
for the LORD is a God of knowledge,
and by him actions are weighed.

Isaiah 55:9

For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.


Job 28:24

For he looks to the ends of the earth
and sees everything under the heavens.

1 John 3:19-20

By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

Hebrews 4:13

And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Isaiah 46:9

I am God, and there is none like me,
declaring the end from the beginning
and from ancient times things not yet done.

Matthew 10:30

But even the hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 139:4

Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.

Are you suggesting that God's foreknowledge or God's complete knowledge or God's infinite knowledge negates your finite ability to freely choose?

[Tedim]

According to the bible he is all knowing you ignorant twat! Just admit that you have never read the bible.

Great is our Lord and mighty in power;
his understanding has no limit.

1 Samuel 2:3

Talk no more so very proudly,
let not arrogance come from your mouth;
for the LORD is a God of knowledge,
and by him actions are weighed.

Isaiah 55:9

For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways
and my thoughts than your thoughts.


Job 28:24

For he looks to the ends of the earth
and sees everything under the heavens.

1 John 3:19-20

By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

Hebrews 4:13

And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Isaiah 46:9

I am God, and there is none like me,
declaring the end from the beginning
and from ancient times things not yet done.

Matthew 10:30

But even the hairs of your head are all numbered.

Psalm 139:4

Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O LORD, you know it altogether.

fuck you....but have a nice day 

Not one verse states that he knows your outcome in life, now crawl back into your boyfriends ass

[Tedim]

Are you suggesting that God's foreknowledge or God's complete knowledge or God's infinite knowledge negates your finite ability to freely choose?

I like my reply better 

[Man of Steel]

A more pertinent question would be:  Why the fuck didn't his family and friends call 911 the moment he went unconscious?  Anyone at his side should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.   

agreed

[bigmc]

god has it good

if good things happen to his followers he gets all the credit

if bad things happen to his followers then that's mans free will

talk about having your cake and eating it

[BigCyp]

god has it good

if good things happen to his followers he gets all the credit

if bad things happen to his followers then that's mans free will

talk about having your cake and eating it

You're simplifying to too much bro, but I see where you're coming from.

Imagine this though, what if God was exactly as you say, He's got every right. What will you gain by ignoring Him, if He's the one that lets you into heaven, or casts your soul into hell?

Not saying that's my theology, but a thought.

[bigmc]

You're simplifying to too much bro, but I see where you're coming from.

Imagine this though, what if God was exactly as you say, He's got every right. What will you gain by ignoring Him, if He's the one that lets you into heaven, or casts your soul into hell?

Not saying that's my theology, but a thought.

i used to believe mate

ive seen too much evil in the world

i cant believe that a force for good all knowing and all powerful

would stand by idle and watch priests in his name abuse innocent children

or watch tribes committing genocide

it doesn't add up

all i can do is protect what i can

and i intervene if i see people doing bad

[Man of Steel]

why would god allow the catholic church to be a breeding ground for pedophiles

how would he allow the pope his vehicle on earth to cover that shit up

the harsh reality is religion is about our struggle to accept our mortality

isn't it convenient to think that we go to paradise when we die

Decided to keep my initial response simple.

Is it your belief that God wills the abuse of children and the breeding of pedophiles in the catholic church?  

Are you of the opinion that those evil acts of men coincide with God’s qualities of grace, justice, peace, mercy and love?

I do think that some religion is about struggling with death, but faith in Jesus Christ is about life and divine purpose in our existence.

I think the notion of paradise is relative.   Some want nothing to do with God both now and forever and for those same folks spending an eternity with God where he resides would be hell for them.

[Darren Avey]

"God" 

[Man of Steel]

God 

[Hulkotron]

Thinning of chaff from the gene pool

[Icelord]

Same reason "god" didn't protect those god-fearing, church-going, gun-loving parents of those kids that got shot in Connecticut or Virginia Tech, or any other place. He doesn't give a fuck about your stupid hero worship. He just runs the universe like a boss. I think of god, if he even exists, as the Architect in the Matrix films.