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Landscapers: We don't take gay customers
A Houston company's rejection of a client shocks some in the city, where homosexuals have made strides.
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
November 6, 2006
HOUSTON — The co-owner of a landscaping company here called Garden Guy turned down a job last month by sending an e-mail to a man who had requested an estimate for work on his yard:
"I am appreciative of your time on the phone today and glad you contacted us," Sabrina Farber wrote. "I need to tell you that we cannot meet with you because we choose not to work with homosexuals. Best of luck in finding someone else to fill your landscaping needs. All the best."
Floored, the recipient of the e-mail, Michael Lord, and his partner forwarded the message to dozens of friends. Within days the e-mail had spread across the Internet in blogs, websites and gardening forums from Seattle to Washington, D.C.
Farber and her husband, Todd, who've owned the landscaping company since 1991, were bombarded with profane phone calls and e-mails. Their online forum flooded with outraged posts.
"It blackens my mind to think that an alternative version of the KKK is alive & kicking in the USA," read one of the milder comments.
The Farbers, declining interviews, released a statement saying they "do not hate homosexuals" and "did not refuse service with malicious intent…. We meant to uphold our right as small business owners to choose who our clients are. We are humbly sorry for the hurt that it has caused."
Lord and his partner, Gary Lackey, also declined to be interviewed.
The episode was a jolt to many in Houston, where gays and lesbians have enjoyed increasing acceptance over the years.
Despite the city's conservative reputation, there's been a significant shift in support of gay rights here, said Jack Valinski, executive director of Pride Houston, a gay-rights group.
"The e-mail was an aberration. People may want to discriminate, but they're not blatant and public about it like they were before."
Gay and lesbian activist Carol Wyatt said she's "not surprised by homophobia, but that this woman thought it was socially acceptable to write about it in an e-mail. We've come a long way in Houston in terms of tolerance and acceptance. For this to bubble up is embarrassing for a lot of people who care about this city."
There have been no threats of legal action, and both sides seem content to let the matter die. But Valinski said activists may push for an anti-discrimination ordinance that prevents businesses from rejecting customers based on sexual orientation.
The Farbers are clear about their convictions in a "Learn About Garden Guy" page of their website ( http://www.garden-guy.com ). "The God-ordained institution of marriage is under attack in courts across the nation, and your help is needed," reads a tagline that refers readers to http://www.nogaymarriage.com .
Tim Wildmon, president of the Tupelo, Miss.-based American Family Assn., defends the Farbers.
"It shouldn't come as a shock when a guy who takes his faith seriously says, 'I can't support this,' " Wildmon said. "He doesn't need to be persecuted for his actions."
A few posters on the now-defunct Garden Guy forum agreed.
"Gays, lesbians and transgendered people do plenty of picking & choosing who they work with too," wrote one. "You just had the guts to say it," wrote another.
But the Assn. of Professional Landscape Designers declared that "this conduct does not conform to the policy and practice of APLD."
In an e-mail to friends, Sabrina Farber reportedly wrote that her husband received death threats, and she was told she shouldn't have had the right to bear children. The couple delisted their home phone number, which had appeared on the Internet along with their home address.
Houston has come a long way since the 1970s, when police arrested women for wearing pants with the zipper in front, said Phyllis Frye, a transgender lawyer. She led a successful drive to overturn the ordinance that made it a crime to dress in public like a member of the opposite sex.
Fast-forward to June, when Sgt. Jack Oliver, a 24-year veteran of the Houston Police Department, held a news conference to announce he was preparing to undergo a sex change operation. Sitting alongside him in support was the president of the Houston Police Officers' Union.
The change has come slowly, in fits and starts. Voters overwhelmingly passed a state constitutional ban on gay marriage last year. Yet Houston has two openly lesbian elected officials: city controller Annise Parker, who has been elected five times to a city office, and councilwoman Sue Lovell.
In 2005, 49% of respondents surveyed in Houston believed that homosexuality was "morally wrong," down from 59% in 1997. "This is a good-ol'-boy town that has changed a lot, but not as much as we'd like," Valinski said.
In the meantime, those put off by Garden Guy's policy can protest with their wallets, longtime gay activist and former evangelical Baptist Ray Hill said. "The Garden Guy isn't the only landscape company in the Yellow Pages," he said.
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Landscapers: We don't take gay customers
A Houston company's rejection of a client shocks some in the city, where homosexuals have made strides.
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
November 6, 2006
"I am appreciative of your time on the phone today and glad you contacted us," Sabrina Farber wrote. "I need to tell you that we cannot meet with you because we choose not to work with homosexuals. Best of luck in finding someone else to fill your landscaping needs. All the best."
Cool. I give the guy credit. He doesn't like gays and its his right to feel that way. As long as he doesn't cross the line and persecute them by spraying poison all over a gay mans lawn.
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If some fag interior designer refused to work with someone because they were straight, nobody would care, or better yet it would be laughed about, so who cares? EVERY business owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone they want. It's not a public service.
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If some fag interior designer refused to work with someone because they were straight, nobody would care, or better yet it would be laughed about, so who cares? EVERY business owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone they want. It's not a public service.
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam true but a fags money is just as green as anyone elses never turn down money ...
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baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam true but a fags money is just as green as anyone elses never turn down money ...
those are the words that brainX lives by.
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fags always have a lot of money
i need to learn to like dick, i guess :-\
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As shitty as the landscapers may come across, I feel that's their right. Along the line of "No shirt. No shoes. No service".
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isnt goatboy from huston ;D
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As shitty as the landscapers may come across, I feel that's their right. Along the line of "No shirt. No shoes. No service".
It comes across more like discriminating against a certain group of people... like "We don't serve women." or "We don't serve Asians, Hispanics," etc...
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it's like letting a black person be yer accountant
exactly
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"all the best" lol
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a fags money is just as green as anyone elses never turn down money ...
oh man
thats gold
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Landscapers: We don't take gay customers
A Houston company's rejection of a client shocks some in the city, where homosexuals have made strides.
By Lianne Hart, Times Staff Writer
November 6, 2006
HOUSTON — The co-owner of a landscaping company here called Garden Guy turned down a job last month by sending an e-mail to a man who had requested an estimate for work on his yard:
"I am appreciative of your time on the phone today and glad you contacted us," Sabrina Farber wrote. "I need to tell you that we cannot meet with you because we choose not to work with homosexuals. Best of luck in finding someone else to fill your landscaping needs. All the best."
Floored, the recipient of the e-mail, Michael Lord, and his partner forwarded the message to dozens of friends. Within days the e-mail had spread across the Internet in blogs, websites and gardening forums from Seattle to Washington, D.C.
Farber and her husband, Todd, who've owned the landscaping company since 1991, were bombarded with profane phone calls and e-mails. Their online forum flooded with outraged posts.
"It blackens my mind to think that an alternative version of the KKK is alive & kicking in the USA," read one of the milder comments.
The Farbers, declining interviews, released a statement saying they "do not hate homosexuals" and "did not refuse service with malicious intent…. We meant to uphold our right as small business owners to choose who our clients are. We are humbly sorry for the hurt that it has caused."
Lord and his partner, Gary Lackey, also declined to be interviewed.
The episode was a jolt to many in Houston, where gays and lesbians have enjoyed increasing acceptance over the years.
Despite the city's conservative reputation, there's been a significant shift in support of gay rights here, said Jack Valinski, executive director of Pride Houston, a gay-rights group.
"The e-mail was an aberration. People may want to discriminate, but they're not blatant and public about it like they were before."
Gay and lesbian activist Carol Wyatt said she's "not surprised by homophobia, but that this woman thought it was socially acceptable to write about it in an e-mail. We've come a long way in Houston in terms of tolerance and acceptance. For this to bubble up is embarrassing for a lot of people who care about this city."
There have been no threats of legal action, and both sides seem content to let the matter die. But Valinski said activists may push for an anti-discrimination ordinance that prevents businesses from rejecting customers based on sexual orientation.
The Farbers are clear about their convictions in a "Learn About Garden Guy" page of their website ( http://www.garden-guy.com ). "The God-ordained institution of marriage is under attack in courts across the nation, and your help is needed," reads a tagline that refers readers to http://www.nogaymarriage.com .
Tim Wildmon, president of the Tupelo, Miss.-based American Family Assn., defends the Farbers.
"It shouldn't come as a shock when a guy who takes his faith seriously says, 'I can't support this,' " Wildmon said. "He doesn't need to be persecuted for his actions."
A few posters on the now-defunct Garden Guy forum agreed.
"Gays, lesbians and transgendered people do plenty of picking & choosing who they work with too," wrote one. "You just had the guts to say it," wrote another.
But the Assn. of Professional Landscape Designers declared that "this conduct does not conform to the policy and practice of APLD."
In an e-mail to friends, Sabrina Farber reportedly wrote that her husband received death threats, and she was told she shouldn't have had the right to bear children. The couple delisted their home phone number, which had appeared on the Internet along with their home address.
Houston has come a long way since the 1970s, when police arrested women for wearing pants with the zipper in front, said Phyllis Frye, a transgender lawyer. She led a successful drive to overturn the ordinance that made it a crime to dress in public like a member of the opposite sex.
Fast-forward to June, when Sgt. Jack Oliver, a 24-year veteran of the Houston Police Department, held a news conference to announce he was preparing to undergo a sex change operation. Sitting alongside him in support was the president of the Houston Police Officers' Union.
The change has come slowly, in fits and starts. Voters overwhelmingly passed a state constitutional ban on gay marriage last year. Yet Houston has two openly lesbian elected officials: city controller Annise Parker, who has been elected five times to a city office, and councilwoman Sue Lovell.
In 2005, 49% of respondents surveyed in Houston believed that homosexuality was "morally wrong," down from 59% in 1997. "This is a good-ol'-boy town that has changed a lot, but not as much as we'd like," Valinski said.
In the meantime, those put off by Garden Guy's policy can protest with their wallets, longtime gay activist and former evangelical Baptist Ray Hill said. "The Garden Guy isn't the only landscape company in the Yellow Pages," he said.
Bay, why is it that each and every single one of your posts has something to do with homosexuality ??? What is this monomania about? Straight people don't make their sexual orientation the center of their lives: Why should the gays make? We know you're gay and we're cool with it - except for some derelicts who make gay jokes ad nauseum, despite not being exactly alpha males either. Let it go, dude. :-\
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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It comes across more like discriminating against a certain group of people... like "We don't serve women." or "We don't serve Asians, Hispanics," etc...
Except, of course, that women have actually always had preferential treatment over men, such as not being drafted to have their bodies blown to pieces in foreign battle fields, getting payed maternity leave, having their lives given priority over men's in case of tragedies, etc - all males over age 18 died at the Titanic, but close to no adult women.
The right to vote? Well, it didn't seem to matter much most of the time, since men have always elected politicians who put women and children first. Look at Victorian England, where boys could receive physical punishment at schools, but not girls. Go figure! Or during the Great Depression, when state aid was given to unmarried adult women even if they didn't need it, but not to adult adult men who were starving. Or, in the case of homosexuals, any sexual act between men was an institutionalized crime, while lesbians were given a free pass. The right to vote never seemed to benefit men much, and now with th female vote, things have become even more unequal as women vote en masse for politicians who enforce political correctness on men by creating laws that turn it a crime, in certain countries, to even mention that men and women are not equal.
Men are more intelligent than women when it comes to logical thinking, but womena are better at manipulation and deceit.They make men work for them and believe that they're benefitting in some way. Hey, on second thought, maybe women are more intelligent than men after all. I mean, what's the point of being able to come up withe the theory of relativity and understand differential geometry, if all women have to do is use their sexuality to get men to work for them? The shrewed bitches. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Except, of course, that women have actually always had preferential treatment over men, such as not being drafted to have their bodies blown to pieces in foreign battle fields, getting payed maternity leave, having their lives given priority over men's in case of tragedies, etc - all males over age 18 died at the Titanic, but close to no adult women.
The right to vote? Well, it didn't seem to matter much most of the time, since men have always elected politicians who put women and children first. Look at Victorian England, where boys could receive physical punishment at schools, but not girls. Go figure! Or during prohibition, when state aid was given to unmarried adult women even if they didn't need it, but not to adult adult men who were starving. Or, in the case of homosexuals, any sexual act between men was an institutionalized crime, while lesbians were given a free pass. The right to vote never seemed to benefit men much, and now with th female vote, things have become even more unequal as women vote en masse for politicians who enforce political correctness on men by creating laws that turn it a crime, in certain countries, to even mention that men and women are not equal.
Men are more intelligent than women when it comes to logical thinking, but womena are better at manipulation and deceit.They make men work for them and believe that they're benefitting in some way. Hey, on second thought, maybe women are more intelligent than men after all. I mean, what's the point of being able to come up withe the theory of relativity and understand differential geometry, if all women have to do is use their sexuality to get men to work for them? The shrewed bitches. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
wow! I hope you're appropriately awestruck, ms. deedee.
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Talk about overkill. Did this really need to be spread from coast to coast? And talk about hypocrisy. The guy who is accused of hating is bombarded with hate talk and hate mail. ::)
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Talk about overkill. Did this really need to be spread from coast to coast? And talk about hypocrisy. The guy who is accused of hating is bombarded with hate talk and hate mail. ::)
people want to compare it to some sort of civil rights struggle . . . but the other day i was looking at some magazine and they had a bunch of facts about gays being wealthier and more educated than the rest of the population. the only sympathy they're really going to get on an issue like this is from their own.
if, on the other hand, it was a story about someone being kicked out of their family for being gay, then i would be more sympathetic.
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people want to compare it to some sort of civil rights struggle . . . but the other day i was looking at some magazine and they had a bunch of facts about gays being wealthier and more educated than the rest of the population. the only sympathy they're really going to get on an issue like this is from their own.
if, on the other hand, it was a story about someone being kicked out of their family for being gay, then i would be more sympathetic.
Or if it was a story about someone being assaulted.
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I've had many gay clients. I prefer them. Less busy, more educated, more focused, very clear on what they want in a website, and polite as can be.
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I've had many gay clients. I prefer them. Less busy, more educated, more focused, very clear on what they want in a website, and polite as can be.
you forgot to mention well-groomed.
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you forgot to mention well-groomed.
i don't meet many of my clients. So their hygeine doesn't really bother me.
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so, how do they broach their gayness over the internet/phone?
"hello, 240, this is gay jack calling. how are you?"
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so, how do they broach their gayness over the internet/phone?
"hello, 240, this is gay jack calling. how are you?"
maybe they ask him to build "Gay for Pay" websites for them. I'm no detective,mind you,but I would say that would be a fairly solid clue.
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Houston has come a long way since the 1970s, when police arrested women for wearing pants with the zipper in front
that's beautiful. they should bring that back!
how come it's acceptable that women wear guys pants? that should be illegal
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Except, of course, that women have actually always had preferential treatment over men, such as not being drafted to have their bodies blown to pieces in foreign battle fields, getting payed maternity leave, having their lives given priority over men's in case of tragedies, etc - all males over age 18 died at the Titanic, but close to no adult women.
The right to vote? Well, it didn't seem to matter much most of the time, since men have always elected politicians who put women and children first. Look at Victorian England, where boys could receive physical punishment at schools, but not girls. Go figure! Or during the Great Depression, when state aid was given to unmarried adult women even if they didn't need it, but not to adult adult men who were starving. Or, in the case of homosexuals, any sexual act between men was an institutionalized crime, while lesbians were given a free pass. The right to vote never seemed to benefit men much, and now with th female vote, things have become even more unequal as women vote en masse for politicians who enforce political correctness on men by creating laws that turn it a crime, in certain countries, to even mention that men and women are not equal.
Men are more intelligent than women when it comes to logical thinking, but womena are better at manipulation and deceit.They make men work for them and believe that they're benefitting in some way. Hey, on second thought, maybe women are more intelligent than men after all. I mean, what's the point of being able to come up withe the theory of relativity and understand differential geometry, if all women have to do is use their sexuality to get men to work for them? The shrewed bitches. >:(
SUCKMYMUSCLE
lol theres no way you hate women this much without loveing teh cock bro!
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It comes across more like discriminating against a certain group of people... like "We don't serve women." or "We don't serve Asians, Hispanics," etc...
Or "No Children Allowed" in this particular restaurant up in the North East region. I can't remember the exact state where this restaurant is but it made national news because of the sign they posted. It actually brought more business to the restaurant. I'm not comparing the landscaping business to the restaurant but I believe in a privately owned business, that's their right.
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Or "No Children Allowed" in this particular restaurant up in the North East region. I can't remember the exact state where this restaurant is but it made national news because of the sign they posted. It actually brought more business to the restaurant. I'm not comparing the landscaping business to the restaurant but I believe in a privately owned business, that's their right.
In principle I agree with you. I just think their policy is (necessarily) inconsistent and ultimately stupid. Will they work with bisexuals? Swingers? Do they work with married men who have sex with male prostitutes on the side? What about married men who get “massages” from male prostitutes? Do they inquire about the sexual orientation of every potential customer before accepting a job?
What would they do if they were in the middle of a job for Reverend Ted Haggard and his wife when he was outed? Would they finish the job or send him a note saying they don’t work with closeted bi men who are struggling with their sexual identity?
What would their revrend, pastor, or priest say about their selectivity?
What would the owners of this company do if one of their children came out of the closet? Between their nuclear family and the brothers and sisters of the parents and their kids, I guarantee someone in their family is gay. Even better, I bet her husband could be seduced by another man ::)
I can easily see these idiots assuming that "all bodybuilders must be gay" therefore we won’t do landscaping for them either. Now, substitute “landscaping” for any other product or service that you might want to purchase... Ignorance and bigotry can affect you too.
As I said: stupid.
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It's stupid but it's thier right, i believe, to refuse service to anyone for any reason, even if it may be not good for business.
The owner must be some bible thumping homophobe who is probably right now blowing some male prostitute.
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It's a free country.
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Who cares? Just find someone else to cut the lawn. Why do gays love drama so damn much?
Gayness shouldn't be the predominant thought in the gay person's mind.
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In a competitive market, those landscapers are reducing their market share and therefore their profits.
If business is so good that they are able to pick and choose who they work for, that's awesome. If so, the market will quickly correct and new landscapers will move into that area. If business is not that good (more likely) and they're just blowing up a small incident for ratings hungry TV cameras, they must think they'll get more business from being viewed as the anti-gay landscape team. Not smart, IMO, but no one said they were bright.
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In a competitive market, those landscapers are reducing their market share and therefore their profits.
If business is so good that they are able to pick and choose who they work for, that's awesome. If so, the market will quickly correct and new landscapers will move into that area. If business is not that good (more likely) and they're just blowing up a small incident for ratings hungry TV cameras, they must think they'll get more business from being viewed as the anti-gay landscape team. Not smart, IMO, but no one said they were bright.
Here's a strange idea..... maybe, some things are more important than money to the landscapers. Besides, they've probably been given more publicity/advertising than they could ever afford by those who push the gay agenda. Think about it, a few homos pissed-off about an e-mail have made them the most well known landscapers in the world. :)
All thing being equal, the last thing I'd want to see is some guy mowing lawns in hot-pants singing Cher. :)
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Without sounding too much of a racist, all the landscapers around me are mexican and they wouldn't turn down anyone. Very hard working guys, I see them at 6 in the morning when I am running all the time and at 8 at night(summer) as well.
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If I were local, I’d love to get a male hooker to seduce her husband and then out him. ;D
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If I were local, I’d love to get a male hooker to seduce her husband and then out him. ;D
great idea.
since all men are just waiting to be seduced by male hookers.
what planet are you from again?
::)
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The same planet where Haggard, Thurmon, & Jefferson come from.
Ted Haggard: I don't believe in homosexuality (except for the cock I suck when no one is looking)
Strom Thurmond: I hate all blacks (except for the black woman I raped and the black daughter I had and kept secret)
Thomas Jefferson: the races should not intermix (except for my intermixing with Sally Hemmings)
I bet it wouldn’t take much (a few beers and a little privacy) to get that guy to suck cock or bend over. Odds are he’s a closet case; real heterosexual men are not preoccupied enough with homosexuality to try to ban them from (of all things) a landscaping service. ::)
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isnt goatboy from huston ;D
He and his partner will just have to find a more liberal landscaper.
Hope this helps ::)
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fags always have a lot of money
i need to learn to like dick, i guess :-\
Keep practicing. I hear it's an acquired taste :P
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Odds are he’s a closet case; real heterosexual men are not preoccupied enough with homosexuality to try to ban them from a landscaping service. ::)
i guess that's a theory.
where did jefferson say that the races should not intermix?
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He and his partner will just have to find a more liberal landscaper.
Hope this helps ::)
My landscaper is Mexican.
Who the hell hires a white landscaper in Texas anyway? ::)
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I bet it wouldn’t take much (a few beers and a little privacy) to get that guy to suck cock or bend over. Odds are he’s a closet case; real heterosexual men are not preoccupied enough with homosexuality to try to ban them from (of all things) a landscaping service. ::)
Now that you mention it, that is a bizarre place to draw a line in the sand. What's next? No gays allowed on the roller coaster? No gays allowed to buy a Toyota? Bah!
Doom disapproves.
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What I think it really is, is that most gays are so particular about the way landscaping is done that they are a pain in the ass to work for. Like someone hanging over your shoulder watching every move you make and always putting their 2 cents in. I used to install epoxy floors and I can remember a couple of gay clients. We couldn't do it right no mater what we did. Worse than cuntz to work for. That, me thinks. is the problem right there. They had 1 problem and are scared off to all gays. Their problem. Their is always a company that will take your $$$.
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fags always have a lot of money
That means my crippled ass is set for life ;D
:-X
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lol theres no way you hate women this much without loveing teh cock bro!
You're intellectually unable to argue with me, so you resort to homosexual insinuations. How predictible. Do you know who also resorts to homosexual insituations towards those who disagrees with them? Women. Like I mentioned, women get whatever they want from men by using their sexuality and/or insinuating that, if a man disagrees with them, then it is because he's gay. I'm not gay, but I would be honest about it if I were. I have gay friends and have no problems whatsoever with them, so you calling me gay doesen't offend me at all.
Besides, I don't hate women, but actually, since I'm very manly, I don't worship them. Unlike you. There's a difference between liking women and being an unmanly pussy-whipped moron; the difference between me and you. You suck up to this deedee bitch like a guy guy to Madona. It's actually quite pathetic. Í think you either want to have sex with her, so you try to act chivarously towards her, or you're just afraid of her and women in general - which is more likely. Regardless, I have owned you many times, and I must warn you that I'll continue to do so en absurdum as long as keep challenging me. Bring it on. ;)
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Now that you mention it, that is a bizarre place to draw a line in the sand. What's next? No gays allowed on the roller coaster? No gays allowed to buy a Toyota? Bah!
Doom disapproves.
Of course you disapprove. You don't want anyone interfering with your love of teh cock.
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I've had many gay clients. I prefer them. Less busy, more educated, more focused, very clear on what they want in a website, and polite as can be.
And you barter web sites for sex with them.
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And you barter web sites for sex with them.
I didn't expect trivial gay jokes from you.
I must say I'm impressed you were able to go so far beyond your usual work!
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I didn't expect trivial gay jokes from you.
I must say I'm impressed you were able to go so far beyond your usual work!
And I must say you set yourself up for that one. Never expected you to leave yourself so vulnerable. ;)
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If I were local, I’d love to get a male hooker to seduce her husband and then out him. ;D
How, exactly, would that affect your life in the least?
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I'm very manly
SUCKMYMUSCLE
;D
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This happened in Houston... and now Houston has a gay mayor, Annise Parker! :D
Houston Is Largest City to Elect Openly Gay Mayor
By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.
HOUSTON — Houston became the largest city in the United States to elect an openly gay mayor on Saturday night, as voters gave a solid victory to the city controller, Annise Parker.
Cheers and dancing erupted at Ms. Parker’s campaign party as her opponent, fellow Democrat Gene Locke, a former city attorney, conceded defeat just after 10 p.m. when it became clear he could not overcome her lead.
Twenty minutes later, Ms. Parker appeared before ecstatic supporters at the city’s convention center and then joked that she was the first graduate of Rice University to be elected mayor. (She is, by the way.) Then she grew serious.
“Tonight the voters of Houston have opened the door to history,” she said, standing by her partner of 19 years, Kathy Hubbard, and their three adopted children. “I acknowledge that. I embrace that. I know what this win means to many of us who never thought we could achieve high office.”
With all precincts reporting, Ms. Parker had defeated Mr. Locke by 53 percent to 47 percent...
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/13/us/politics/13houston.html
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I've had many gay clients. I prefer them. Less busy, more educated, more focused, very clear on what they want in a website, and polite as can be.
Tends to happen when your clients are bodybuilders. ;)
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And talk about hypocrisy. The guy who is accused of hating is bombarded with hate talk and hate mail. ::)
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If I were local, I’d love to get a male hooker to seduce her husband and then out him. ;D
In my experience, homosexuals usually aren't as mean spirited as yourself...
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While sort of cold, it is within their right to not do business with whomever they please. A smart fucker would fill that niche and get all that gay money!
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fags always have a lot of money
i need to learn to like dick, i guess :-\
outed
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when is the rally you and your ilk are having for equal rights of straight men bay?
I want the right to walk into a womens locker room and stare at them as you have the right to do to men...
Like I said you want equality when equality suits you...
gays=the new black/womens movement deal with it ::)