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Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« on: June 07, 2018, 06:50:32 AM »
Wow! I don't know how to feel about this. I'm actually quite annoyed. Surely this must be bullshit? I won't paste the entire study as it is over one hundred pages long, but I'll paste the key points. Apparently, scientific findings reveal that the prevalence of Pit Bull ownership in the bodybuilding community is linked to paraphilic disorders. In layman's terms - bodybuilders want to have sex with their dogs.  :-X

(The American Journal of Psychology, vol. 130, no. 2)

Abstract

Bodybuilding dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is a relatively common and disabling psychiatric disorder characterised by excessive and persistent preoccupation with perceived defects or flaws in one's appearance, which are unnoticeable to others, and associated with repetitive, harmful behaviours (e.g. exogenous hormone abuse). The disorder generally starts in adolescence, but often goes unnoticed and is severely underdiagnosed. Left untreated, BDD typically persists and causes marked functional impairment in multiple domains. However, little is known about the link between a pathological preoccupation with muscularity and the predilection for Pit Bull ownership. With the aid of MRI and penile plethysmography, the aim of the present study was to explore the psychological underpinnings of men with BDD who also owned Pit Bull Terriers. To our knowledge, this topic has not previously been examined. We hypothesized that men who had muscle dysmorphia would also have higher rates of Pit Bull ownership and a desire to interact sexually with their pets. Comparisons of demographic characteristics, social and occupational impairment, and measures of psychopathology were made, but differences were not expected.

 
Participants

Participants were 467 men, all meeting DSM-IV criteria for lifetime BDD, who were also current or former owners of Pit Bull Terriers. All data in this report are from this study’s intake interview. All participants were required to be 21 years or older and available for an in-person interview. Participants were recruited from mental health professionals (46%), advertisements (38%), our program website and brochures (10%), subject friends and relatives (3%), and non-psychiatrist physicians (2%). The study was approved by the hospital Institutional Review Board, and all participants signed statements of informed consent.


Procedures

Penile plethysmography measures minute changes in erectile responses. The procedure involves placing a pressure-sensitive device around a man's penis and presenting him with an array of sexually stimulating images, to determine his level of sexual attraction. Participants in this test were subject to penile plethysmography using a circumferential transducer in order to measure their level of sexual arousal when presented with various images featuring Pit Bull Terriers. In this study, one hundred percent of the sample displayed significant sexual arousal. This was characterised by a marked increase of sexual arousal in response to paraphilic (Pit Bull) stimuli and a significant decrease of sexual arousal in response to nonparaphilic (naked women) stimuli.
 
Infrared thermographic and functional magnetic resonance imaging were also used to measure sexual arousal. Participants viewed documentary and movie clips featuring Pit Bull Terriers while genital temperature was continuously measured using infrared thermal imaging. Participants also continuously evaluated changes in their subjective arousal and answered discrete questions about liking the movies and wanting sexual stimulation. Brain activity, indicated by blood oxygen level-dependent (BOLD) response, was measured using functional magnetic resonance imaging. BOLD activity in a number of brain regions was correlated with changes in genital temperature in participants. Activation appeared to be surprisingly extensive, including the anterior and posterior cingulate cortex, right cerebellum, insula, frontal operculum, and paracingulate gyrus. Examination of the strength of the correlation between BOLD response and genital temperature showed that participants had a stronger brain-genital relation compared with other men in a number of regions.

 
Conclusions

Pit Bull owners with muscle dysmorphia had poorer scores than comparison men on all quality-of-life measures, with two of four measures (the Q-LES-Q and SF-36 Mental Health subscale) reaching statistical significance, with large effect sizes. Pit Bull owners with muscle dysmorphia were also significantly more likely to form sexual relationships with their non-human companions. As hypothesized, men with muscle dysmorphia were significantly more likely to have abused anabolic-androgenic steroids - but unexpectedly, we found that they also exhibited a significantly higher lifetime prevalence of substance use disorders. Also as predicted, Pit Bull ownership in the bodybuilding community is evidently a form of paraphilia - a condition in which a person's sexual arousal and gratification depend on fantasising about and engaging in sexual behavior that is atypical and extreme. Other factors, such as abnormalities in male sexual hormones or the brain chemical serotonin, have not been conclusively proven as factors in the development of paraphilias, though it has been suggested that the use of exogenous hormones may exacerbate their development.

Evidence suggests that the causes of Pit Bull paraphilia are linked to feelings of shame over perceived appearance flaws, and a desire to mask effeminate mannerisms by projecting hypermasculine traits such as physical strength and aggression. The Pit Bull Terrier - an exemplar of such traits - therefore generates a strong sexual response from individuals suffering from BDD, causing them to inadvertently drop their outward persona and fall back into their natural,  “feminine” role of caregiver.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2018, 06:59:23 AM »
Insecure males with inferiority complexes who need to have a nasty dog to compensate for their micro-penises.


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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2018, 07:11:26 AM »
And it's the 'dog of choice' in every ghetto and barrio....

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2018, 07:13:29 AM »
Yeah, that must be real  ::)

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2018, 07:24:35 AM »
Just don't feed your dog d bol.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2018, 08:19:33 AM »
Dog steroids exist.....

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2018, 09:19:17 AM »
The American Journal of Psychology must have nothing better to do than to spend a lot of money on a study such as this one.

I'd be more intetested on 'WHY' and "What did this study cost'.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2018, 09:35:42 AM »
The American Journal of Psychology must have nothing better to do than to spend a lot of money on a study such as this one.

I'd be more intetested on 'WHY' and "What did this study cost'.

I agree, Stuntmovie. Given the number of participants involved and the equipment used, this study must have cost a fortune. I'm particularly shocked by the results: 100 percent of the participants displayed 'significant sexual arousal'. Pit Bulls are banned in my country so I have no experience with them, but maybe a few owners on here will chime in.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2018, 09:40:38 AM »
Oh. My. Gosh.  This is comedy gold.  Brilliant!

Thanks for giving me my first literal LOL of the day, Mr. Meta-physical.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2018, 03:45:36 PM »
Wow! I don't know how to feel about this. I'm actually quite annoyed. Surely this must be bullshit? I won't paste the entire study as it is over one hundred pages long, but I'll paste the key points. Apparently, scientific findings reveal that the prevalence of Pit Bull ownership in the bodybuilding community is linked to paraphilic disorders. In layman's terms - bodybuilders want to have sex with their dogs.  :-X

(The American Journal of Psychology, vol. 130, no. 2)

Abstract

Bodybuilding dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is a relatively common and disabling psychiatric disorder characterised by excessive and persistent preoccupation with perceived defects or flaws in one's appearance, which are unnoticeable to others, and associated with repetitive, harmful behaviours (e.g. exogenous hormone abuse). The disorder generally starts in adolescence, but often goes unnoticed and is severely underdiagnosed. Left untreated, BDD typically persists and causes marked functional impairment in multiple domains. However, little is known about the link between a pathological preoccupation with muscularity and the predilection for Pit Bull ownership. With the aid of MRI and penile plethysmography, the aim of the present study was to explore the psychological underpinnings of men with BDD who also owned Pit Bull Terriers. To our knowledge, this topic has not previously been examined. We hypothesized that men who had muscle dysmorphia would also have higher rates of Pit Bull ownership and a desire to interact sexually with their pets. Comparisons of demographic characteristics, social and occupational impairment, and measures of psychopathology were made, but differences were not expected.

 
Participants

Participants were 467 men, all meeting DSM-IV criteria for lifetime BDD, who were also current or former owners of Pit Bull Terriers. All data in this report are from this study’s intake interview. All participants were required to be 21 years or older and available for an in-person interview. Participants were recruited from mental health professionals (46%), advertisements (38%), our program website and brochures (10%), subject friends and relatives (3%), and non-psychiatrist physicians (2%). The study was approved by the hospital Institutional Review Board, and all participants signed statements of informed consent.


Procedures

Penile plethysmography measures minute changes in erectile responses. The procedure involves placing a pressure-sensitive device around a man's penis and presenting him with an array of sexually stimulating images, to determine his level of sexual attraction. Participants in this test were subject to penile plethysmography using a circumferential transducer in order to measure their level of sexual arousal when presented with various images featuring Pit Bull Terriers. In this study, one hundred percent of the sample displayed significant sexual arousal. This was characterised by a marked increase of sexual arousal in response to paraphilic (Pit Bull) stimuli and a significant decrease of sexual arousal in response to nonparaphilic (naked women) stimuli.
 
Infrared thermographic and functional magnetic resonance imaging were also used to measure sexual arousal. Participants viewed documentary and movie clips featuring Pit Bull Terriers while genital temperature was continuously measured using infrared thermal imaging. Participants also continuously evaluated changes in their subjective arousal and answered discrete questions about liking the movies and wanting sexual stimulation. Brain activity, indicated by blood oxygen level-dependent (BOLD) response, was measured using functional magnetic resonance imaging. BOLD activity in a number of brain regions was correlated with changes in genital temperature in participants. Activation appeared to be surprisingly extensive, including the anterior and posterior cingulate cortex, right cerebellum, insula, frontal operculum, and paracingulate gyrus. Examination of the strength of the correlation between BOLD response and genital temperature showed that participants had a stronger brain-genital relation compared with other men in a number of regions.

 
Conclusions

Pit Bull owners with muscle dysmorphia had poorer scores than comparison men on all quality-of-life measures, with two of four measures (the Q-LES-Q and SF-36 Mental Health subscale) reaching statistical significance, with large effect sizes. Pit Bull owners with muscle dysmorphia were also significantly more likely to form sexual relationships with their non-human companions. As hypothesized, men with muscle dysmorphia were significantly more likely to have abused anabolic-androgenic steroids - but unexpectedly, we found that they also exhibited a significantly higher lifetime prevalence of substance use disorders. Also as predicted, Pit Bull ownership in the bodybuilding community is evidently a form of paraphilia - a condition in which a person's sexual arousal and gratification depend on fantasising about and engaging in sexual behavior that is atypical and extreme. Other factors, such as abnormalities in male sexual hormones or the brain chemical serotonin, have not been conclusively proven as factors in the development of paraphilias, though it has been suggested that the use of exogenous hormones may exacerbate their development.

Evidence suggests that the causes of Pit Bull paraphilia are linked to feelings of shame over perceived appearance flaws, and a desire to mask effeminate mannerisms by projecting hypermasculine traits such as physical strength and aggression. The Pit Bull Terrier - an exemplar of such traits - therefore generates a strong sexual response from individuals suffering from BDD, causing them to inadvertently drop their outward persona and fall back into their natural,  “feminine” role of caregiver.



The shocking parts are they would come up with ridiculous study like that
Spend big $ on it & the ridiculous analogies & conclusions.

Likely would apply to any other male group of pit bull owners also.

Sometimes these studies are completely bonkers.

And no I don’t own or have ever owned a pit bull or want one.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2018, 04:24:00 PM »
Insecure males with inferiority complexes who need to have a nasty dog to compensate for their micro-penises.



it's mostly women that i see walking them, very well behaved dogs from what i've seen

if bodybuilders or anybody is having sex with their pit bull, it's just more proof that no dog suffers more abuse than a pit bull

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2018, 04:49:55 PM »
It's all 'Pitbullshit'!

This study is not one of the listed articles in The American Journal of Psychology; Vol. 130, No. 2, Summer 2017.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2018, 07:17:29 PM »
Wow! I don't know how to feel about this. I'm actually quite annoyed. Surely this must be bullshit? I won't paste the entire study as it is over one hundred pages long, but I'll paste the key points. Apparently, scientific findings reveal that the prevalence of Pit Bull ownership in the bodybuilding community is linked to paraphilic disorders. In layman's terms - bodybuilders want to have sex with their dogs.  :-X

(The American Journal of Psychology, vol. 130, no. 2)

Abstract

Bodybuilding dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is a relatively common and disabling psychiatric disorder characterised by excessive and persistent preoccupation with perceived defects or flaws in one's appearance, which are unnoticeable to others, and associated with repetitive, harmful behaviours (e.g. exogenous hormone abuse). The disorder generally starts in adolescence, but often goes unnoticed and is severely underdiagnosed. Left untreated, BDD typically persists and causes marked functional impairment in multiple domains. However, little is known about the link between a pathological preoccupation with muscularity and the predilection for Pit Bull ownership. With the aid of MRI and penile plethysmography, the aim of the present study was to explore the psychological underpinnings of men with BDD who also owned Pit Bull Terriers. To our knowledge, this topic has not previously been examined. We hypothesized that men who had muscle dysmorphia would also have higher rates of Pit Bull ownership and a desire to interact sexually with their pets. Comparisons of demographic characteristics, social and occupational impairment, and measures of psychopathology were made, but differences were not expected.

 
Participants

Participants were 467 men, all meeting DSM-IV criteria for lifetime BDD, who were also current or former owners of Pit Bull Terriers. All data in this report are from this study’s intake interview. All participants were required to be 21 years or older and available for an in-person interview. Participants were recruited from mental health professionals (46%), advertisements (38%), our program website and brochures (10%), subject friends and relatives (3%), and non-psychiatrist physicians (2%). The study was approved by the hospital Institutional Review Board, and all participants signed statements of informed consent.


Procedures

Penile plethysmography measures minute changes in erectile responses. The procedure involves placing a pressure-sensitive device around a man's penis and presenting him with an array of sexually stimulating images, to determine his level of sexual attraction. Participants in this test were subject to penile plethysmography using a circumferential transducer in order to measure their level of sexual arousal when presented with various images featuring Pit Bull Terriers. In this study, one hundred percent of the sample displayed significant sexual arousal. This was characterised by a marked increase of sexual arousal in response to paraphilic (Pit Bull) stimuli and a significant decrease of sexual arousal in response to nonparaphilic (naked women) stimuli.
 
Infrared thermographic and functional magnetic resonance imaging were also used to measure sexual arousal. Participants viewed documentary and movie clips featuring Pit Bull Terriers while genital temperature was continuously measured using infrared thermal imaging. Participants also continuously evaluated changes in their subjective arousal and answered discrete questions about liking the movies and wanting sexual stimulation. Brain activity, indicated by blood oxygen level-dependent (BOLD) response, was measured using functional magnetic resonance imaging. BOLD activity in a number of brain regions was correlated with changes in genital temperature in participants. Activation appeared to be surprisingly extensive, including the anterior and posterior cingulate cortex, right cerebellum, insula, frontal operculum, and paracingulate gyrus. Examination of the strength of the correlation between BOLD response and genital temperature showed that participants had a stronger brain-genital relation compared with other men in a number of regions.

 
Conclusions

Pit Bull owners with muscle dysmorphia had poorer scores than comparison men on all quality-of-life measures, with two of four measures (the Q-LES-Q and SF-36 Mental Health subscale) reaching statistical significance, with large effect sizes. Pit Bull owners with muscle dysmorphia were also significantly more likely to form sexual relationships with their non-human companions. As hypothesized, men with muscle dysmorphia were significantly more likely to have abused anabolic-androgenic steroids - but unexpectedly, we found that they also exhibited a significantly higher lifetime prevalence of substance use disorders. Also as predicted, Pit Bull ownership in the bodybuilding community is evidently a form of paraphilia - a condition in which a person's sexual arousal and gratification depend on fantasising about and engaging in sexual behavior that is atypical and extreme. Other factors, such as abnormalities in male sexual hormones or the brain chemical serotonin, have not been conclusively proven as factors in the development of paraphilias, though it has been suggested that the use of exogenous hormones may exacerbate their development.

Evidence suggests that the causes of Pit Bull paraphilia are linked to feelings of shame over perceived appearance flaws, and a desire to mask effeminate mannerisms by projecting hypermasculine traits such as physical strength and aggression. The Pit Bull Terrier - an exemplar of such traits - therefore generates a strong sexual response from individuals suffering from BDD, causing them to inadvertently drop their outward persona and fall back into their natural,  “feminine” role of caregiver.

Reads like your fantasy more than a study. :-X
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 11:53:36 PM »
Insecure males with inferiority complexes who need to have a nasty dog to compensate for their micro-penises.



Bostin Lloyd approved

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2018, 12:43:10 AM »
Reads like your fantasy more than a study. :-X

Chaos, I'm offended. I go to great efforts to bring this forum the latest scientific research, and look what happens! Primemuscle has a PTSD attack from reading 'penile plethysmography' and starts moaning because he can't find the article, and you start suggesting that I made the whole thing up! I hate to say it, but you're both suspect. Those tests are highly accurate and the results are terrifying. Just look at these unsavoury characters - very suspicious!



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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2018, 01:08:29 AM »
Are there any other similar studies re musclemen?

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2018, 01:42:54 AM »
Are there any other similar studies re musclemen?
There are a few, my esteemed colleague. All equally shocking! One particularly illuminating study revealed that 92 percent of surveyed musclemen thought that 'hypertrophy' was a phobia of balloons popping.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2018, 02:02:22 AM »


Exactly one Heath wide.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2018, 07:23:43 AM »
 ;D

A very disturbing study, Meta-physical; however, as you well know, science is a positivistic practice which forces us to look at evidence, no matter how upsetting. I do believe that there is precedent for this recent finding in the literature going way back to fin de siècle Europe, giving new expression to the famed "Vienna sausage" or "hot dog." See, e.g., Sigmund Freud, (Fallstudie: 1902) Auf das Tumeszenz Verlangen nach Hunden (translated simply as: [Case Study: 1902] "On Tumescence and Terriers." A brief excerpt: Der Mann der Muskeln ist ein kranker Perverser, der, getrieben von den Es, und so vom Unbewußten gesteuert, durch den Übertragungsprozeß, das pathetische Schwein sublimiert seine Begierde nach Hundepenis für die Befriedigung und den Schmerz des Hebens von Gewichten. Sein entwickelter Körper spricht mit der Macht seiner Scham, sowie seinem und seinem Hund, der Erdnussbutter verbraucht (The bodybuilder is a sick pervert who, driven by the Id, and thus controlled by the unconscious through the process of transference, the pathetic swine sublimates his desire for dog dick to engage in the painful pleasure of lifting weights. His developed body speaks to the power of his shame, as well as his and his dog's consumption of peanut butter).

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2018, 07:57:23 AM »
I have a Dogo Argentino, and a pitbull...both dogs were purchased/adopted by my wife...but I’m the asshole

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2018, 11:09:47 AM »
;D

A very disturbing study, Meta-physical; however, as you well know, science is a positivistic practice which forces us to look at evidence, no matter how upsetting. I do believe that there is precedent for this recent finding in the literature going way back to fin de siècle Europe, giving new expression to the famed "Vienna sausage" or "hot dog." See, e.g., Sigmund Freud, (Fallstudie: 1902) Auf das Tumeszenz Verlangen nach Hunden (translated simply as: [Case Study: 1902] "On Tumescence and Terriers." A brief excerpt: Der Mann der Muskeln ist ein kranker Perverser, der, getrieben von den Es, und so vom Unbewußten gesteuert, durch den Übertragungsprozeß, das pathetische Schwein sublimiert seine Begierde nach Hundepenis für die Befriedigung und den Schmerz des Hebens von Gewichten. Sein entwickelter Körper spricht mit der Macht seiner Scham, sowie seinem und seinem Hund, der Erdnussbutter verbraucht (The bodybuilder is a sick pervert who, driven by the Id, and thus controlled by the unconscious through the process of transference, the pathetic swine sublimates his desire for dog dick to engage in the painful pleasure of lifting weights. His developed body speaks to the power of his shame, as well as his and his dog's consumption of peanut butter).

Dear Sir,

Thank you kindly for taking the time to reveal the roots of the academic research on this troubling phenomenon, and I hope that this may now bring an end to der neueste angriff auf Herr Meta-physikal. Since linking the study, I've had everything from vague appeals to sociological antipositivism thrown at me, to profanity-laced accusations of lazy plagiarism - apparently without me even bothering to correct American spelling or basic capitalisation errors. Needless to say I reject these ridiculous accusations. I readily admit that the study did not sit well with me, but it was shared in the hope that a transformative power might emerge, and force these pit bull owners to change their wicked ways. It may not be easy, but until bodybuilders take the required steps to make the unconscious conscious, they will continue to fuck their dogs and call it fate.

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2018, 11:23:01 AM »
It's all 'Pitbullshit'!

This study is not one of the listed articles in The American Journal of Psychology; Vol. 130, No. 2, Summer 2017.

Oh Bless you Prime, you're just so honest - never change...  :)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28729345
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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2018, 11:26:21 AM »
;D

A very disturbing study, Meta-physical; however, as you well know, science is a positivistic practice which forces us to look at evidence, no matter how upsetting. I do believe that there is precedent for this recent finding in the literature going way back to fin de siècle Europe, giving new expression to the famed "Vienna sausage" or "hot dog." See, e.g., Sigmund Freud, (Fallstudie: 1902) Auf das Tumeszenz Verlangen nach Hunden (translated simply as: [Case Study: 1902] "On Tumescence and Terriers." A brief excerpt: Der Mann der Muskeln ist ein kranker Perverser, der, getrieben von den Es, und so vom Unbewußten gesteuert, durch den Übertragungsprozeß, das pathetische Schwein sublimiert seine Begierde nach Hundepenis für die Befriedigung und den Schmerz des Hebens von Gewichten. Sein entwickelter Körper spricht mit der Macht seiner Scham, sowie seinem und seinem Hund, der Erdnussbutter verbraucht (The bodybuilder is a sick pervert who, driven by the Id, and thus controlled by the unconscious through the process of transference, the pathetic swine sublimates his desire for dog dick to engage in the painful pleasure of lifting weights. His developed body speaks to the power of his shame, as well as his and his dog's consumption of peanut butter).

Sh1t - so you beat me...

I heard of a guy who would get f**ked up on GBH, spread butter on his... erm... well you can guess and then get his dog to, erm... well...  :-X :-X :-X
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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2018, 01:31:21 AM »
The conclusions cited in that study also apply to motor vehicle choices...

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Re: Shocking new study on bodybuilders who own Pit Bulls.
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2018, 01:38:35 AM »
Sh1t - so you beat me...

I heard of a guy who would get f**ked up on GBH, spread butter on his... erm... well you can guess and then get his dog to, erm... well...  :-X :-X :-X

I'm nauseous...