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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Mad-scientist on April 11, 2017, 03:41:39 AM
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Lol just curious who regrets it?
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Lol just curious you fucking ass holes? Preemptive strike its getbig mane?
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Very dependive question. I always said doing moderate cycles with short breaks is as healty as being natural..
But If you are a long time abuser It can be thinkable.
IMO the danger zone starts when you go above 1grams+ for 5- 10 years straight..
HRT = COMPLETLY SAFE..
I will never regret moderate abusing. But I were a person abused for 30 years straight with every drugs , grams of each , mgs of opioids ,mg of benzos , then die in my 50.. OF COURSE.... I will be regretfull.. And no offense but this post is against to these hardcore forums rules. What a question is this ? İs this a joke. Please ask that type of things to steroid.com forum. Not here. They will comment on these type of questions with ease. Dont make us busy with your catenaccio formation on roids. We are all users some of us on 500mg some of us on 5grams. Thats how these forum works.. And for me I touched roids in my 19 and still using them and I am still living.. Ok?
I think you came into to wrong forum you should ask the health dangers of diuretics,narcotics , illegal fat burners to a good doctor... Or you can be a member to bluelight forum.. Steroids arent an addiction in medical terms. So the term of touching steroids is not a logical sentence..))
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Very dependive question. I always said doing moderate cycles with short breaks is as healty as being natural..
But If you are a long time abuser It can be thinkable.
IMO the danger zone starts when you go above 1grams+ for 5- 10 years straight..
HRT = COMPLETLY SAFE..
I will never regret moderate abusing. But I were a person abused for 30 years straight with every drugs , grams of each , mgs of opioids ,mg of benzos , then die in my 50.. OF COURSE.... I will be regretfull.. And no offense but this post is against to these hardcore forums rules. What a question is this ? İs this a joke. Please ask that type of things to steroid.com forum. Not here. They will comment on these type of questions with ease. Dont make us busy with your catenaccio formation on roids. We are all users some of us on 500mg some of us on 5grams. Thats how these forum works.. And for me I touched roids in my 19 and still using them and I am still living.. Ok?
I think you came into to wrong forum you should ask the health dangers of diuretics,narcotics , illegal fat burners to a good doctor... Or you can be a member to bluelight forum.. Steroids arent an addiction in medical terms. So the term of touching steroids is not a logical sentence..))
It's a legit question. When I didn't know what I was doing I thought like I should have never touched them
I got gyno from not using an AI like 17 years ago, I went through horrible pct issues like depression and zero energy etc
But now I'm on trt and blast occasionally and I feel and look great! My blood work is good and I'm very happy.
I look at others my age (38) and they look old, fat, bald, on BP meds and cholesterol meds etc. that has to be less safe than trt
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I'm on the line... I enjoyed blasting and competing, but I enjoyed training without them before hand, you never enjoy it quite the same when you come off, or even drop to trt dose
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Hard to say, I tried my best to stay natural but my natural twink genetics didn;t allow me to reach a decent level of muscularity, now after blasting for a while I run about 150mg - 200 mg test e a week and have kept most of my gains, feels much better on a psychological level because I've achieved my goal and can then move on with my life
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Very dependive question. I always said doing moderate cycles with short breaks is as healty as being natural..
But If you are a long time abuser It can be thinkable.
IMO the danger zone starts when you go above 1grams+ for 5- 10 years straight..
HRT = COMPLETLY SAFE..
I will never regret moderate abusing. But I were a person abused for 30 years straight with every drugs , grams of each , mgs of opioids ,mg of benzos , then die in my 50.. OF COURSE.... I will be regretfull.. And no offense but this post is against to these hardcore forums rules. What a question is this ? İs this a joke. Please ask that type of things to steroid.com forum. Not here. They will comment on these type of questions with ease. Dont make us busy with your catenaccio formation on roids. We are all users some of us on 500mg some of us on 5grams. Thats how these forum works.. And for me I touched roids in my 19 and still using them and I am still living.. Ok?
I think you came into to wrong forum you should ask the health dangers of diuretics,narcotics , illegal fat burners to a good doctor... Or you can be a member to bluelight forum.. Steroids arent an addiction in medical terms. So the term of touching steroids is not a logical sentence..))
I never said I had any thing against steroids or what my position on the subject was. Nobody is forced into opening a thread and reading it so I dont get how it could make anybody here busy. I think most people who have used steroids at one point in life wonder if it was worth it or not so me being bored I figured I would ask the people on getbig. Lol now I have asked my question got some answers and will be going on with the rest of my night.
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steroids r great fun as long as ur not a tard about things.
keep dosages low, if ur not a responder... high dosages will not make u look nearly as good as a responder on low dosages – so don't bother.
these days, I would never consider taking above 200mg of an injectable or 20mg/day of an oral.
if u need more than that, u have shit genetics.
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I've been juicing since I was 20 and now I'm into my 30's. On one hand I appreciate the experience because it taught me so much about my body.
On the other hand, if I REALLY applied myself and trained my ass off, I could probably get to where I am right now without any drugs. But there's the irony. I never would have learned how to train and diet properly UNLESS I took drugs.
My physique now is really good. Best it's ever been and I'm just on HRT. But I think if I played my cards right and go back in time, I could get to where I am now without drugs. But ah well, no regrats. I look and feel good and I don't abuse the gear like I used to. I think most juicers are guilty of slacking off. That's precisely why I like the lower doses - I still gotta work my fuckin' ass off.
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I am more and more worried about the legal aspect of stuff and a lot less by the health its weird.
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It varies. I should not have touched steroids before 38-39 or so, because before then I was healthy and did not need them. Plus I was lazy and expected them to do the work for me, which of course resulted in me being unimpressed by their results.
After 39, when due to extreme dieting my hormones crashed and stayed down, I fell in love with my 250 mg/w test TRT+. Tried a few blasts, but usually the results are not really exceptional. I get more out of a steady low dose.
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steroids r great fun as long as ur not a tard about things.
keep dosages low, if ur not a responder... high dosages will not make u look nearly as good as a responder on low dosages – so don't bother.
these days, I would never consider taking above 200mg of an injectable or 20mg/day of an oral.
if u need more than that, u have shit genetics.
This is spot on.
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This is spot on.
"my experience was the same, therefore it is spot on"
typical getbig
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"my experience was the same, therefore it is spot on"
typical getbig
Negative response with no other input, typical getbig...
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Negative response with no other input, typical getbig...
my post was not negative, just an observation
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I think one of the big problems is under dosed gear. If you have some testosterone thats underdosed by 50% and your running 500mgs and want better results than get testosterone that is actually 100% dosed right and up your dosage to like 850mgs and add a few extras that can really fuck you up, especially if your a great responder.
I think alot of times the advice given to beginers for their first cycles isnt the best advice. It seems to be 500mgs of test for a first cycle which is a good starting point but then after that people tend to go crazy. I've just always taken blood tests and one time I tooke 850mgs of testosterone and had test levels at 2500ng/dl than switched brands and my levels went over 10,000ng/dl it was pretty crazy. I imagine this happens with drugs like tren to which causes people to never want to take it again.
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My Regret is not using them sooner.
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I am more and more worried about the legal aspect of stuff and a lot less by the health its weird.
x 2
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I always felt like running higher dosed cycles at a young age fucked more people up then helped them, but obviously you guys don't really get bad side effects so I'm sure you could of benefited from heavier dosed cycles more than the average person.
At 22 I did 750mgs of test e a week with 25mgs of winstrol a day and I blew up it was pretty crazy. What years of some ones life is the best to use heavy dosages at in your guys oppinions, I always thought 24 to 30 was the best time to use heavy dosages.
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Heavy? Until you start to see neg sides like no or liver values or ck levels that don't correct themselves quickly. Or until there's no point. I've used 7g and above but now I've been doing just a shot of test every cpl weeks since maybe Dec after not training really since mar 16 and a grade 3 ankle separation in june. .and 2 30day stays in rehab.. Was off since about Feb last yr as well... Maybe in a couple months ill bump back to 2g test and 2g of tren and anadrol.. But not till I get back into a consisted training routine. Only been training 2-3x a week since maybe Jan/Feb and nutrition is still like a normal person.. Maybe 100g protein and 500 carbs.
Your post makes no sense time line wise,
Test since December -Not really trained since March - ankle separation in june ?? we are in April
or are you on another type of calendar.
Off since February Last year
and training 2-3 a week since Jan / Feb.
WTF makes no sense.
Oh and before you start Running your Tough Man mouth off,
Its only Fair to warn you -
I don't have a Fear Gene & I Don't Take Kindly To Disrespect on Here or Any Where.
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No, wish I never held off so long, only use 300mg a week and even at that dose training and life in general feels so much better than it ever did naturally. Will hold off before trying higher doses
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Your post makes no sense time line wise,
Test since December -Not really trained since March - ankle separation in june ?? we are in April
or are you on another type of calendar.
Off since February Last year
and training 2-3 a week since Jan / Feb.
WTF makes no sense.
Oh and before you start Running your Tough Man mouth off,
Its only Fair to warn you -
I don't have a Fear Gene & I Don't Take Kindly To Disrespect on Here or Any Where.
Every single post has an incomprehensible back story....
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Backed off training and gear man/Feb 2016.. Backed off even more in march. Maybe 3-4 workouts in march-april don't even think i was on hrt test doses since Feb... Rehab in April-may. Dislocated ankle in June(3 complete ligament ruptures and partial Achilles tendon rupture). Walking boot and crutches/cane till late Oct dispute fighting twice early/mid sept. Did maybe 2 shots of test in august but didn't get back in the gym till about early dec, after rehab again in Nov.. Onlyntraining semi consistently since about mid Jan. Started test around mid dec.. Maybe a shot every 10-14 days. Bouncing back andnforth from 219 and 229 since feb training only upper body about. 2-3 days a week
Thank you - that better explains it & makes sense.
Good to have a reply without the macho / abuse / aggression,
So much better. 👍🏻
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My only regret is not doing more research before hand and using some pretty sketchy sources in the past. Free gear? I would inject it. Now it's mostly pharma or has at least been lab tested.
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No regrets I look amazing because of them and use them safer now than before when I started that's my only regret is wasting time and not doing things correctly
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Wish I had done them sooner. Wish I had stayed away from tren.
I researched and held off a couple years before pulling the trigger after college.
Blast and cruise is the way to go. PCT is and coming off is counter productive and much more hassle
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Totally agree about coming off is very counter productive unless you are a genetic freak which is what pro body builders ar they have great response to low dosages of gear and ability to bounce back from cycles better. So they stay healthier. But when they do blast up the dosages they colored with minimal side effects.
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No regrets.
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Wish I had done them sooner. Wish I had stayed away from tren.
I researched and held off a couple years before pulling the trigger after college.
Blast and cruise is the way to go. PCT is and coming off is counter productive and much more hassle
why, any long term side effects ?
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No long term
Just increased temporary paranoia and anxiety
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No long term
Just increased temporary paranoia and anxiety
mental effects for me, general feeling of emptiness, depression, inability to focus on complex thoughts. Bloodwork was also horrible but it's fine now on TRT dose. I don't even look half as good as I did on tren but I feel 10x better.
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Severe anxiety.....finding it difficult to quit it though!!
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My only regret was doing bullshit light cycles
I thought I only wanted a beach body type physique so I did all kinds of anavar only cycles...primo tabs only...even Gh only... risked my health and natural test for shitty gains....
Wish I would have just done brief, hard cycles and gotten real results, some of which could be maintained.
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mental effects for me, general feeling of emptiness, depression, inability to focus on complex thoughts. Bloodwork was also horrible but it's fine now on TRT dose. I don't even look half as good as I did on tren but I feel 10x better.
Amen to that. Stuff is a double edged sword. You are literally not the same, rational thinking person on an effective dose of tren. Maybe if you are a bb'er with one of those girlfriends that preps your meals, wipes your ass and puts up with your shit then you can get away with tren. Even then you would still want to plow other chicks too. Tren is way too much mental maintenance. And you always have to learn the hard way
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=610959.0
Mad scientist I just read your comment on this thread that I wrote over a year and a half ago. I was crazy for not taking your advice, as I wasn't thinking properly. I'm here a year later to say thank you for the advice :)
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hgh and test are way too good to stop especially if you are an old fart.
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What did Ronnie Coleman say after his debilitating back surgery last year to where he needed extensive rehab to even walk again? He was asked do you regret squatting 1000lbs now? His answer was " my only regret is I didn't go heavier". Spoken like a true warrior. One of his famous quotes was "everybody wanna get big, but ain't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights". Everything we do in life comes with a price tag. If you want to get big and muscular with low body fat you have to juice. They are relatively safe if used sensibly. You need to research them to death and make the right decisions. It takes time to realize which ones work best for you depending on your goals. If your taking grams you are taking a chance.
If you are young, say under 35 you probably want to cycle off. If you are older blast and cruise might be better. If you are under 23 you should be natural and working towards your natural peak. Your first cycle should be 250mg test only every 5-7 days. You will get your best gains then if your gear is good. That gives you a chance to see how you respond to test only. Did you bloat, any gyno, bad temper, sleep issues etc. if you start higher you have nowhere to go but up. Think of it as a marathon. Slow and go. Three steps forward, one step back. Your second cycle bump up to 500mg test only. You should be getting plenty of gains if your diet is good and training enough. Two cycles a year is plenty just starting out. Ad more compounds slowly, one at a time. Later in life you will be happy you took things slow and still have your health. Keep up with blood work and dose or come off accordingly. Listen to your body. It's all relative to the end game. No one knows what will happen so safe is good.
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What did Ronnie Coleman say after his debilitating back surgery last year to where he needed extensive rehab to even walk again? He was asked do you regret squatting 1000lbs now? His answer was " my only regret is I didn't go heavier". Spoken like a true warrior. One of his famous quotes was "everybody wanna get big, but ain't nobody want to lift no heavy ass weights". Everything we do in life comes with a price tag. If you want to get big and muscular with low body fat you have to juice. They are relatively safe if used sensibly. You need to research them to death and make the right decisions. It takes time to realize which ones work best for you depending on your goals. If your taking grams you are taking a chance.
If you are young, say under 35 you probably want to cycle off. If you are older blast and cruise might be better. If you are under 23 you should be natural and working towards your natural peak. Your first cycle should be 250mg test only every 5-7 days. You will get your best gains then if your gear is good. That gives you a chance to see how you respond to test only. Did you bloat, any gyno, bad temper, sleep issues etc. if you start higher you have nowhere to go but up. Think of it as a marathon. Slow and go. Three steps forward, one step back. Your second cycle bump up to 500mg test only. You should be getting plenty of gains if your diet is good and training enough. Two cycles a year is plenty just starting out. Ad more compounds slowly, one at a time. Later in life you will be happy you took things slow and still have your health. Keep up with blood work and dose or come off accordingly. Listen to your body. It's all relative to the end game. No one knows what will happen so safe is good.
amen, brotha.
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My all around well being is much better, feel great almost everyday and depression has left me. All I've seen in the last 10yrs is benefits.
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cruise dose of test + some deca and some proviron for life... if you ain't competing no business running crazy shit. Marathon not sprint
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cruise dose of test + some deca and some proviron for life... if you ain't competing no business running crazy shit. Marathon not sprint
Do you stay on this year round? Was thinking about adding a small dose of proviron and deca into my cruise alongside test and hgh. I worry as to whether or not proviron would slowly fuck up bloodwork over time even on a low dose, but i'm not sure. It was obviously prescribed to people for a number of reasons actually.
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I haven't gotten bloods in a while I live in a state where bloods are a bitch to get. Last time I was cruising on Test/Deca at similar doses (175/175 IIRC but no proviron, now doing 155/210) total T was 1200 ng/dl and e2 a bit high at 48 pg/ml. Was horny af and feeling insanely good tho. Lipids no different than natty.
Since then I've stopped the deca and was doing test trest and various orals, mostly adrol, before saying fuck it let's permacruise and focus on diet+training.
I'll probably get CBC,CMP,lipids and t/e2 early on next year. I'd be surprised if 25mg of proviron fucked shit up