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[Soul Crusher]

Election 2012: North Carolina President

North Carolina: Romney 51%, Obama 43%



Wednesday, May 16, 2012

 Mitt Romney has moved out to an eight-point lead over President Obama in North Carolina after the two men were virtually tied a month ago.
 
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the Tar Heel State shows the putative Republican nominee earning 51% of the vote to Obama’s 43%. Two percent (2%) like some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
 
That’s a big change from last month when Romney posted a narrow 46% to 44% lead over the president in Rasmussen Reports’ first survey of the race in North Carolina.  Democrats have signaled North Carolina’s importance as a key swing state by deciding to hold their national convention in Charlotte this summer.
 
Romney has held a slight lead over the president nationally for over a week now in the daily Presidential Tracking Poll following the release of a disappointing jobs report for April.
 
Voters nationally regard the economy as far and away the most  important issue in the upcoming election, and just 11% of North Carolina voters now describe the U.S. economy as good or excellent. Forty-seven percent (47%) rate it as poor. Thirty-one percent (31%) say the economy is getting better, but 41% think it is getting worse.
 
The president leads overwhelmingly among those who give the economy positive marks, while Romney is far ahead among the much larger group that views the economy as poor.
 
Eighty-eight percent (88%) of North Carolina Republicans now support Romney, compared to 76% of Democrats in the state who back Obama. Nearly one-in-five North Carolina Democrats (18%) now favor the Republican. The GOP challenger holds a modest 49% to 45% lead among voters not affiliated with either party, but the two men were tied with 38% support each among this group a month ago.
 
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The survey of 500 Likely Voters in North Carolina was conducted on May 14, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
 
Last week, 61% of North Carolina voters last week approved a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between only a man and a woman. The next night, Obama became the first U.S. president to publicly endorse gay marriage. At the same time, North Carolina’s Democratic Party is embroiled in a divisive leadership spat.
 
Obama edged Republican John McCain 50% to 49% in the 2008 election to become the first Democrat to carry North Carolina since Jimmy Carter in 1976. Now 46% approve of the job Obama is doing as president, while 54% disapprove. The latter finding is up four points from a month ago. The new numbers include 28% who Strongly Approve of the president’s job performance and 45% who Strongly Disapprove.
 
Fifty-four percent (54%) of voters in the state share a favorable opinion of Romney, including 23% who regard him Very Favorably. The former Massachusetts governor is seen unfavorably by 43%, with 23% who hold a Very Unfavorable view of him. This marks an increase of several points in both his Very Favorables and Very Unfavorables from last month.
 
Just 22% of Tar Heel voters think the federal government has the constitutional authority to force everyone in the country to buy or obtain health insurance, a central element of the president’s national health care plan. Forty-three percent (43%) at least somewhat favor a law that includes such a mandate, while 53% are at least somewhat opposed. This includes 19% who Strongly Favor the law and 38% who Strongly Oppose it.
 
Obama earns 75% support from those who Strongly Favor such a law. Ninety percent (90%) of those who Strongly Oppose it prefer Romney.
 
Fifty-two percent (52%) of all North Carolina voters would like to see the U.S. Supreme Court overturn the national health care law, while 35% would rather see the high court uphold the legality of the measure. Forty-eight percent (48%) believe the court will overturn the law, but 32% think it will be upheld. Those numbers are similar to the national average.
 
In combined polling of the key swing states of Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia, Obama holds a slight edge over Romney.  The president also leads Romney in Nevada,  Ohio, Wisconsin, California  and New Mexico.  He is nearly tied with his GOP challenger in Florida, Virginia and Pennsylvania but trails him in Missouri, Montana, Arizona and Nebraska.
 
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LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!

[Option D]

link please

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Mitt Romney's Poll Surge Might Be Bigger Than It Looks
US News and World Report ^ | May 15, 2012 | Peter Roff, contributing editor
Posted on May 16, 2012 12:49:54 AM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The latest CBS News/New York Times poll shows President Barack Obama and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in a dead heat in the race for the White House.

Given that Obama has had a relatively good week and Romney something of a bad one, this poll is a real shocker. Asked for whom they would vote were the election held today, 46 percent of the nearly 600 registered voters surveyed said Romney while 43 percent said Obama. Given that the error margin is plus or minus four points, it looks like the race is all tied up.

Actually, Romney may be in better shape than the poll suggests. The same survey conducted in April showed each man with 46 percent of the vote while the polls from March and February showed the president ahead.

What is particularly interesting is this is a poll of registered voters, meaning it's a survey representing the entire universe of those who may cast ballots in the upcoming election. Thanks to things like "motor voter," there are far more Democrats in the pool of registered voters than Republicans and, unlike surveys of so-called "likely voters," many of them may not bother to vote. It is not too much of an inference, therefore, to think that Obama may be losing the country—and that's because he has failed to get a handle on the nation's economic troubles.

Unemployment is down from where it had been under Obama, to 8.1 percent, but that's not because the economy is creating jobs. It's because, as this simple analysis shows, large numbers of people have simply stopped looking for work. "In April," wrote Tyler Durden on Zerohedge.com, "the number of people not in the labor force rose by a whopping 522,000 from 87,897,000 to 88,419,000," which he says is the highest number ever recorded. The labor force participation rate, meaning the people who are working or looking for work, is now at 64.3 percent, a 30-year low.

With numbers like that, with Obama having wiped out 30 years of job creation under presidents of both parties, is it any surprise that 62 percent of respondents in the CBS News/New York Times poll "cited the economy as the most important issue in the presidential election"?

"Concern over the budget deficit ranked a distant second at 11 percent, followed by health care at 9 percent. Seven percent picked same-sex marriage, 4 percent cited foreign policy and 2 percent chose immigration," according to an analysis of the numbers conducted by CBS.

The response of the White House and Obama's campaign to the numbers has been to attack the way the survey was conducted—which is really their only choice since they can't dispute what the numbers say. The president's deputy campaign manager, Stephanie Cutler, told NBC's Chuck Todd, "We can't put the methodology of that poll aside, because the methodology was significantly biased." When pressed, Cutler called the sample "biased."

Maybe so, but that doesn't get around the fact that 67 percent of respondents—remember these are registered voters, not likely voters—rated the condition of the national economy as either "fairly bad" or "very bad." And 63 percent said they thought things would stay the same or get worse.

Equally disturbing for the White House, and perhaps the reason why the Obama campaign, its political allies, and its friends in the media have suddenly unleashed the attack squad against the former governor, is that this same poll found Romney leading among independents, among men and among women, 46 percent to 44 percent for the president—still within the margin of error but an indication that any bounce the Democrats might have gotten over accusations the GOP was engaged in a "war on women" has dissipated.

Team Obama needs a new strategy. It doesn't take a college degree to figure out that just about the only thing left is to try and make Romney radioactive, which means a nasty and negative summer is in the offing. It will be interesting to see if the same journalists and Washington "deep thinkers" who call out the Republicans every time they say something uncomplimentary will be as hard on the Democrats as they "go nuclear" on Romney.

[Soul Crusher]

link please

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/north_carolina/election_2012_north_carolina_president

[Option D]

Sorry bro.. i gotta ask from sources from you from now on. You know how you can get with the lying and the shitty sources... youre pretty solid on this one.. No lying at all... good for you .

[whork]

I thought it was already going to collapse anyway?  You mean all the crying you did his first term was for nothing since it won't happen until his second one?

Does that mean doctors won't be walking off their jobs with their black duffel bags to torch cities across the country until the second term?

333 and the rest of the neocons have no long-term memory apparently

[Soul Crusher]

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US News and World Report douche 

[dario73]

US News and World Report douche 

Blahhhhhh! That is another "lying and the shitty" source. Only valid sources are from the left and Jon Stewart.

[whork]

Blahhhhhh! That is another "lying and the shitty" source. Only valid sources are from the left and Jon Stewart.

Those from the left are as crap as those from the right.

Steward however is the best source these days

[Option D]

Blahhhhhh! That is another "lying and the shitty" source. Only valid sources are from the left and Jon Stewart.

stewart just compares videos.. no lying in that...

Dario.. you need to relax cuz..

[Option D]

US News and World Report douche 

dont get mad at me because your sources are hella fucked sometimes.. i gave you credit for this one.. relax tough guy..

[MCWAY]

Election 2012: North Carolina President

North Carolina: Romney 51%, Obama 43%



Wednesday, May 16, 2012

 Mitt Romney has moved out to an eight-point lead over President Obama in North Carolina after the two men were virtually tied a month ago.
 
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in the Tar Heel State shows the putative Republican nominee earning 51% of the vote to Obama’s 43%. Two percent (2%) like some other candidate, and four percent (4%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
 
That’s a big change from last month when Romney posted a narrow 46% to 44% lead over the president in Rasmussen Reports’ first survey of the race in North Carolina.  Democrats have signaled North Carolina’s importance as a key swing state by deciding to hold their national convention in Charlotte this summer.
 
Romney has held a slight lead over the president nationally for over a week now in the daily Presidential Tracking Poll following the release of a disappointing jobs report for April.
 
Voters nationally regard the economy as far and away the most  important issue in the upcoming election, and just 11% of North Carolina voters now describe the U.S. economy as good or excellent. Forty-seven percent (47%) rate it as poor. Thirty-one percent (31%) say the economy is getting better, but 41% think it is getting worse.
 
The president leads overwhelmingly among those who give the economy positive marks, while Romney is far ahead among the much larger group that views the economy as poor.
 
Eighty-eight percent (88%) of North Carolina Republicans now support Romney, compared to 76% of Democrats in the state who back Obama. Nearly one-in-five North Carolina Democrats (18%) now favor the Republican. The GOP challenger holds a modest 49% to 45% lead among voters not affiliated with either party, but the two men were tied with 38% support each among this group a month ago.
 
(Want a free daily e-mail update? If it's in the news, it's in our polls). Rasmussen Reports updates are also available on Twitter or Facebook.
 
The survey of 500 Likely Voters in North Carolina was conducted on May 14, 2012 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
 
Last week, 61% of North Carolina voters last week approved a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between only a man and a woman. The next night, Obama became the first U.S. president to publicly endorse gay marriage. At the same time, North Carolina’s Democratic Party is embroiled in a divisive leadership spat.
 
Obama edged Republican John McCain 50% to 49% in the 2008 election to become the first Democrat to carry North Carolina since Jimmy Carter in 1976. Now 46% approve of the job Obama is doing as president, while 54% disapprove. The latter finding is up four points from a month ago. The new numbers include 28% who Strongly Approve of the president’s job performance and 45% who Strongly Disapprove.
 
Fifty-four percent (54%) of voters in the state share a favorable opinion of Romney, including 23% who regard him Very Favorably. The former Massachusetts governor is seen unfavorably by 43%, with 23% who hold a Very Unfavorable view of him. This marks an increase of several points in both his Very Favorables and Very Unfavorables from last month.
 
Just 22% of Tar Heel voters think the federal government has the constitutional authority to force everyone in the country to buy or obtain health insurance, a central element of the president’s national health care plan. Forty-three percent (43%) at least somewhat favor a law that includes such a mandate, while 53% are at least somewhat opposed. This includes 19% who Strongly Favor the law and 38% who Strongly Oppose it.
 
Obama earns 75% support from those who Strongly Favor such a law. Ninety percent (90%) of those who Strongly Oppose it prefer Romney.
 
Fifty-two percent (52%) of all North Carolina voters would like to see the U.S. Supreme Court overturn the national health care law, while 35% would rather see the high court uphold the legality of the measure. Forty-eight percent (48%) believe the court will overturn the law, but 32% think it will be upheld. Those numbers are similar to the national average.
 
In combined polling of the key swing states of Florida, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia, Obama holds a slight edge over Romney.  The president also leads Romney in Nevada,  Ohio, Wisconsin, California  and New Mexico.  He is nearly tied with his GOP challenger in Florida, Virginia and Pennsylvania but trails him in Missouri, Montana, Arizona and Nebraska.
 
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LANDSLIDE COMING!!!!!!

Obama just handed North Carolina and at least two other swing states to Romney, with his gay-pandering.


Whoever is running the Obama re-election campaign needs to be SHOT!!

[Soul Crusher]

Obama just handed North Carolina and at least two other swing states to Romney, with his gay-pandering.


Whoever is running the Obama re-election campaign needs to be SHOT!!

Anyone voting for obama for a second term is beyond stupid.   Not a single reason these fools can give to award Il Douche w 4 more years after these past 4 years. 

[tu_holmes]

Judging opinions on gay "marriage", based on polls, is the equivalent of judging a team's regular season record , based on its preseason record. The Detroit Lions went 4-0 in 2008 preseason. How did their regular season go?

Besides, we've seen this mess before now. On average, support for traditional marriage plays out about 5-7 points better than what the polls show.

Two weeks before the 2008 election, poll after poll said that Californians were in favor of gay "marriage" and against Prop. 8, to the tune of 49-44. Guess how that turned out.

Polls in Florida said that gay "marriage" was more acceptable too, that Floridians were in favor of it. Guess what happened on gameday: Amendment 2 passed, 62-38 (and this was the ONE situation were gay supporters could win without winning, because Florida requires a 60% supermajority to pass an amendment). Gay activists couldn't even get 41% of Florida voters to side with them.

Liberals love to cite these polls but don't have the balls to put their money where their mouths are. Bring up a referendum and they'll SQUEAL like stuck pigs. Why?

They have LOST, every time this goes to the voters...with the lion's share being BLOWOUTS (see North Carolina last week). Minnesota and Maryland are on deck this year.  Maryland legalized gay "marriage" earlier this year; but the law doesn't take effect until next year....IF it survives. Considering that California and Maine REVERSED gay "marriage" laws made just months prior, in 2008 and 2009 respectively, I don't like the gay activists' chances in Maryland, which has a population makeup similar to that of NC.

Why don't you ask the gay "marriage" supporters there, if those polls are going to hold up in six months. Can you say 0-34? I knew that you could!!!

Edit - To make my point about marriage amendments passing 5-7 points higher than the polls suggest, A PPP poll, taken at the end of April, said that people supported NC's Amendment 1 by a margin of 55-41. The actual margin by which it passed: 61-39.

Yes, during a republican primary vote... How many Dems do you think got out during that Primary?

[MCWAY]

Yes, during a republican primary vote... How many Dems do you think got out during that Primary?

I'm not sure. But, 35% of the voters who passed NC's amendment were Democrats. Black voters went for the amendment over a 2-to-1 margin. This happens NEARLY EVERY TIME.

But, just to shoot down your suggestion of lack of Democrats being a factor in these amendment votes, look at Missouri's amendment in 2004.

The Dems bumped up the vote on the amendment to May, to keep it from generating votes for Bush. Furthermore, 60% of the voters were Democrats. The amendment passed 71-29.

North Carolina's amendment 1 vote was moved to May, for much the same reason.

And, lest you forget, there was PLENTY of Democrat turnout in 2008, when Prop. 8 passed in California. Same goes for Amendment 2 in Florida and Amendment 102 in Arizona.

There ain't ONE SINGLE gay "marriage" support who will put their money where their mouths are and test those polls, where it truly counts: The BALLOT BOX.

Cite them all you want; the reality shoots those polls to pieces, time and time again.

[tu_holmes]

I'm not sure. But, 35% of the voters who passed NC's amendment were Democrats. Black voters went for the amendment over a 2-to-1 margin. This happens NEARLY EVERY TIME.

But, just to shoot down your suggestion of lack of Democrats being a factor in these amendment votes, look at Missouri's amendment in 2004.

The Dems bumped up the vote on the amendment to May, to keep it from generating votes for Bush. Furthermore, 60% of the voters were Democrats. The amendment passed 71-29.

North Carolina's amendment 1 vote was moved to May, for much the same reason.

And, lest you forget, there was PLENTY of Democrat turnout in 2008, when Prop. 8 passed in California. Same goes for Amendment 2 in Florida and Amendment 102 in Arizona.

There ain't ONE SINGLE gay "marriage" support who will put their money where their mouths are and test those polls, where it truly counts: The BALLOT BOX.

Cite them all you want; the reality shoots those polls to pieces, time and time again.

Again,

You are citing stuff from 8 years ago.

The trend is simply that this is another thing, similar to abortion that is going to end up happening... Its just the nature of old people dying and young people growing up.

[MCWAY]

Again,

You are citing stuff from 8 years ago.

The trend is simply that this is another thing, similar to abortion that is going to end up happening... Its just the nature of old people dying and young people growing up.

I'm also citing stuff from 4 years ago, 3 years ago, and 8 DAYS AGO.

The pattern hasn't changed. Gay "marriage" supporters cite all these polls, claiming more people support their cause. But, they are SCARED TO DEATH, to put it on the line at the ballot box. That was the case 8 years ago; that's the case NOW!!

Polls say people support it; amendment (one-man-one-woman definition) goes to the ballot box; gay "marriage" supporters get clobbered.....same old story.

Lest you forget, in the last four years, two blue states REVERSED gay "marriage" laws, just six months after they were passed or ordered by the state court.

I know the usual liberal tenet is "just wait until they all die off". But the reality is that gay "marriage" only sticks in states with left-winged courts/legislatures in non-referendum states.

As long as this goes to the ballot box, it's game over for gay "marriage". You know it and they know it.

[tu_holmes]

I'm also citing stuff from 4 years ago, 3 years ago, and 8 DAYS AGO.

The pattern hasn't changed. Gay "marriage" supporters cite all these polls, claiming more people support their cause. But, they are SCARED TO DEATH, to put it on the line at the ballot box. That was the case 8 years ago; that's the case NOW!!

Polls say people support it; amendment (one-man-one-woman definition) goes to the ballot box; gay "marriage" supporters get clobbered.....same old story.

Lest you forget, in the last four years, two blue states REVERSED gay "marriage" laws, just six months after they were passed or ordered by the state court.

I know the usual liberal tenet is "just wait until they all die off". But the reality is that gay "marriage" only sticks in states with left-winged courts/legislatures in non-referendum states.

As long as this goes to the ballot box, it's game over for gay "marriage". You know it and they know it.

Kind of like interracial marriage only stuck there?

You do realize that these votes are effectively the same.

[Dos Equis]

Good ads.

[MCWAY]

Kind of like interracial marriage only stuck there?

You do realize that these votes are effectively the same.

Not even close. And, in case you didn't know, interracial marriage was actually legal in most states. The major issue was specifically whites with non-whites.

Besides, what we're talking about is these polls, regarding same-sex "marriage". They don't reflect the reality of the situation. That has been proven nearly THREE DOZEN TIMES. It was proven yet again, just last week.

And with at three states with marriage amendments on the ballot this November, it will be proven yet again. What's your excuse going to be when gay "marriage" goes 0-35?

[MCWAY]

Good ads.

This is precisely why Obama is so fired up about gay "marriage".

[Soul Crusher]

Good ads.

2nd ad speaks for itself. 

[tu_holmes]

Not even close. And, in case you didn't know, interracial marriage was actually legal in most states. The major issue was specifically whites with non-whites.

Besides, what we're talking about is these polls, regarding same-sex "marriage". They don't reflect the reality of the situation. That has been proven nearly THREE DOZEN TIMES. It was proven yet again, just last week.

And with at three states with marriage amendments on the ballot this November, it will be proven yet again. What's your excuse going to be when gay "marriage" goes 0-35?

I am not making excuses... I'm simply saying that it will eventually be an issue which is overturned EXACTLY like whites to non-whites... Which as you know, WAS done in many states and which is now OVERTURNED in those states.

The fact you cannot see that this is very similar is eerily scary.

[MCWAY]

I am not making excuses... I'm simply saying that it will eventually be an issue which is overturned EXACTLY like whites to non-whites... Which as you know, WAS done in many states and which is now OVERTURNED in those states.

The fact you cannot see that this is very similar is eerily scary.

Keep telling yourself that it will eventually be overturned. Some gay activists don't even believe that. In fact, they cite that apathy as one of the reasons they keep losing at the ballot box.

There's no inevitability to legalizing gay "marriage". Can it happen? YES! Is it a lock? NO!

AEI Young Bloggers: Why Young Voters Won’t Tip the Gay Marriage Debate Anytime Soon

    The landslide passage of Amendment One in North Carolina, which defines marriage as between one man and one woman, should give some pause to those who believe that young voters will be enough to tilt the balance in the near future in favor of gay marriage.

    Conventional wisdom holds that support for gay marriage is tied to demographic change, and there is some truth to this. On average, opposition among voters falls with age. However, this does not mean that majority support for the legalization of same-sex marriage is inevitable. There is a difference between opposing something less stridently and actually supporting it, and all the evidence available from both the results in last Tuesday’s vote on Amendment One in North Carolina and Public Policy Polling’s final poll before the vote show that voters under 30 opposed the amendment only marginally.

    ... If 18- to 30-year-old voters did in fact split almost evenly on Amendment One, this casts some doubt on the theory that gay marriage will ride to acceptance due to overwhelmingly supportive young voters. While young voters do seem more supportive of gay marriage, and support increases the younger the demographic in question, the operative word is supportive. Only moderately in favor of gay marriage themselves, young North Carolinians were in no position to outvote their older neighbors.

    In fact, even if nobody over age 45 had voted Tuesday, the amendment still would have passed by around 8 percentage points, according to the adjusted data above.

    Therefore, any strategy of waiting for demographics to realize the maximalist position of gay marriage advocates across the country looks to be, at the very least, a lengthy endeavor. States on the margins, like California and Washington, where initial bans commanded marginal majorities, might support gay marriage in the near future. But on a wider scale, movement on the issue, though real, is likely to be far too slow to bring about dramatic change nationally anytime soon.

    In fact, it is quite possible that gay marriage will lose traction this November. Both Maryland and Minnesota have referenda on the ballot, and both share enough demographic similarities with North Carolina to make it likely that they will also ban gay marriage. Maryland has a large number of African-Americans who, while unlikely to turn on President Obama because of his embrace of gay marriage, are equally unlikely to accept his views on the issue. Minnesota has one of the most conservative pools of voters between the ages of 30-44 in the nation—they have even voted more Republican than their elders in recent decades. -- AEI's American.com

http://www.nomblog.com/23091/

[Dos Equis]

    In fact, even if nobody over age 45 had voted Tuesday, the amendment still would have passed by around 8 percentage points, according to the adjusted data above.

Interesting stat.  Really undercuts the notion that this is a generational thing.