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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #375 on: May 30, 2012, 03:24:17 AM »
Apparently, you're too busy with your identity crisis to get the point, namely Obama supporters (i.e. yourself, via your other post name) calling Romney a flip-flopper while remaining mush-mouthed about Obama's convenient evolution on gay "marriage".
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #376 on: May 30, 2012, 07:29:34 AM »
Why Obama Will Lose in a Landslide
 Townhall.com ^ | May 30, 2012 | Wayne Allyn Root

Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:16:29 AM by Kaslin

Most political predictions are made by biased pollsters, pundits, or prognosticators who are either rooting for Republicans or Democrats. I am neither. I am a former Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee, and a well-known Vegas oddsmaker with one of the most accurate records of predicting political races.



Neither Obama nor Romney are my horses in the race. I believe both Republicans and Democrats have destroyed the U.S. economy and brought us to the edge of economic disaster. My vote will go to Libertarian Presidential candidate Gary Johnson in November, whom I believe has the most fiscally conservative track record of any Governor in modern U.S. political history. Without the bold spending cuts of a Gary Johnson or Ron Paul, I don’t believe it’s possible to turnaround America.



But as an oddsmaker with a pretty remarkable track record of picking political races, I play no favorites. I simply use common sense to call them as I see them. Back in late December I released my New Years Predictions. I predicted back then- before a single GOP primary had been held, with Romney trailing for months to almost every GOP competitor from Rick Perry to Herman Cain to Newt- that Romney would easily rout his competition to win the GOP nomination by a landslide. I also predicted that the Presidential race between Obama and Romney would be very close until election day. But that on election day Romney would win by a landslide similar to Reagan-Carter in 1980.



Understanding history, today I am even more convinced of a resounding Romney victory. 32 years ago at this moment in time, Reagan was losing by 9 points to Carter. Romney is right now running even in polls. So why do most pollsters give Obama the edge?



First, most pollsters are missing one ingredient- common sense. Here is my gut instinct. Not one American who voted for McCain 4 years ago will switch to Obama. Not one in all the land. But many millions of people who voted for an unknown Obama 4 years ago are angry, disillusioned, turned off, or scared about the future. Voters know Obama now- and that is a bad harbinger.



Now to an analysis of the voting blocks that matter in U.S. politics:



*Black voters. Obama has nowhere to go but down among this group. His endorsement of gay marriage has alienated many black church-going Christians. He may get 88% of their vote instead of the 96% he got in 2008. This is not good news for Obama.



*Hispanic voters. Obama has nowhere to go but down among this group. If Romney picks Rubio as his VP running-mate the GOP may pick up an extra 10% to 15% of Hispanic voters (plus lock down Florida). This is not good news for Obama.



*Jewish voters. Obama has been weak in his support of Israel. Many Jewish voters and big donors are angry and disappointed. I predict Obama's Jewish support drops from 78% in 2008 to the low 60’s. This is not good news for Obama.



*Youth voters. Obama’s biggest and most enthusiastic believers from 4 years ago have graduated into a job market from hell. Young people are disillusioned, frightened, and broke- a bad combination. The enthusiasm is long gone. Turnout will be much lower among young voters, as will actual voting percentages. This not good news for Obama.



*Catholic voters. Obama won a majority of Catholics in 2008. That won’t happen again. Out of desperation to please women, Obama went to war with the Catholic Church over contraception. Now he is being sued by the Catholic Church. Majority lost. This is not good news for Obama.



*Small Business owners. Because I ran for Vice President last time around, and I'm a small businessman myself, I know literally thousands of small business owners. At least 40% of them in my circle of friends, fans and supporters voted for Obama 4 years ago to “give someone different a chance.” I warned them that he would pursue a war on capitalism and demonize anyone who owned a business...that he’d support unions over the private sector in a big way...that he'd overwhelm the economy with spending and debt. My friends didn’t listen. Four years later, I can't find one person in my circle of small business owner friends voting for Obama. Not one. This is not good news for Obama.



*Blue collar working class whites. Do I need to say a thing? White working class voters are about as happy with Obama as Boston Red Sox fans feel about the New York Yankees. This is not good news for Obama.



*Suburban moms. The issue isn’t contraception…it’s having a job to pay for contraception. Obama’s economy frightens these moms. They are worried about putting food on the table. They fear for their children’s future. This is not good news for Obama.



*Military Veterans. McCain won this group by 10 points. Romney is winning by 24 points. The more our military vets got to see of Obama, the more they disliked him. This is not good news for Obama.



Add it up. Is there one major group where Obama has gained since 2008? Will anyone in America wake up on election day saying “I didn’t vote for Obama 4 years ago. But he’s done such a fantastic job, I can’t wait to vote for him today.” Does anyone feel that a vote for Obama makes their job more secure?



Forget the polls. My gut instincts as a Vegas oddsmaker and common sense small businessman tell me this will be a historic landslide and a world-class repudiation of Obama’s radical and risky socialist agenda. It's Reagan-Carter all over again.



But I’ll give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.


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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #377 on: May 30, 2012, 09:49:26 AM »
Your hate won't win.

Come with something original, instead of this bumper sticker spiel.

While you're at it, try addressing Obama "flip-flopping", for once.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #378 on: May 30, 2012, 12:43:19 PM »
May 30, 2012 12:00pm

Romney Rebounds Among Women, While Obama’s Favorability Slips

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A sharp advance among women has boosted Mitt Romney to his highest favorability rating of the presidential campaign – albeit still an unusually weak one – while Barack Obama’s personal popularity has slipped in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll.
 
Obama still beats Romney in favorable ratings overall, by an 11-point margin, 52 vs. 41 percent. But that’s down from 21 points last month, giving Romney the better trajectory. And both get only even divisions among registered voters, marking the closeness of the race between them.
 
See PDF with full results, charts and tables here.
 
This survey comes after a period in which Romney’s chief GOP competitors withdrew from the Republican race and lined up behind his candidacy. Romney clinched his party’s nomination in Texas last night.
 
All Romney’s gains have come among women – up by 13 percentage points in personal popularity from last month, while Obama’s lost 7 points among women. (Views among men have been more stable.) Obama’s rating among women, 51 percent favorable, still beats Romney’s 40 percent – but again that margin is far smaller than what it was six weeks ago.
 
An ABC/Post poll last week found improvement for Romney in vote preferences among married women. This survey finds that his gains in personal favorability, instead, come predominantly among unmarried women, who saw him uncommonly negatively earlier this spring.
 
This poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, finds that Obama’s ratings among all adults are slightly positive, 52-45 percent favorable-unfavorable, vs. 56-40 percent last month. Romney is numerically underwater (albeit not by a significant margin), 41-45 percent – but up from his 35-47 percent score last month. Forty-one percent favorable is a new high for him, by a scant 2 points from January. It’s his first foray above the 40 percent line.
 
Romney’s 35 percent favorability in April was the weakest on record for a presumptive presidential nominee in ABC/Post polls in primary seasons since 1984. While he’s since gained 6 points overall, he’s still less popular than most previous eventual nominees at this stage of a presidential campaign. Only one has been this low in comparable data – but that one, Bill Clinton in 1992, did go on to win.
 
Obama’s popularity, meanwhile is the same as George H.W. Bush’s in June 1992, the year Bush lost re-election. On the other hand Obama’s rating is 2 points from Ronald Reagan’s in early 1984 and George W. Bush’s in 2004, both re-election winners.
 
GROUPS – In addition to women, Romney’s gained 9 points among moderates from a month ago (albeit just to 39 percent favorable, vs. Obama’s 58 percent in this group) and 9 points among Republicans (to 78 percent favorable).
 
In addition to losing ground among women, Obama’s popularity has dropped by a slight 8 points, to 45 percent, among independents, classically the swing voters in presidential elections. Fifty-two percent of independents see him unfavorably, putting him numerically underwater in this group for the first time since December. Romney is at 40-46 percent favorable-unfavorable among independents, also numerically in negative territory.
 
Neither candidate manages majority popularity among registered voters. Obama’s slipped to a 49-48 percent favorable-unfavorable rating in this group, after achieving majority favorability among registered voters in three of the past four months. Romney’s at 44-44 percent, up 8 percentage points in favorable ratings among registered voters since March, albeit not quite at a new high; he hit 45 percent, his best to date, in January.
 
Differences between registered voters and the general public reflect slightly higher voter registration among Republicans.
 
Finally, while Obama’s clearly had a tougher month than his GOP opponent, he retains bragging rights in one area beyond overall favorability – strength of sentiment. His strong critics and his strong fans are roughly evenly divided, at 31 and 29 percent, respectively. Romney, for his part, is seen more strongly negatively than strongly positively by a 9-point margin, 24 vs. 15 percent. But again, that’s eased from a 17-point gap in March.
 
METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cell phone May 23-27, 2012, among a random national sample of 1,021 adults. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points. The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by SSRS/Social Science Research Solutions of Media, Pa.






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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #379 on: May 31, 2012, 06:57:10 AM »
Four more years?: U.S. can't afford it






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By the Tribune-Review

Published: Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 6:46 p.m.
Updated: Wednesday, May 30, 2012


As summer bows and presidential politics heat up, Barack Obama's erstwhile campaign themes of "hope" and "change" will surely morph into fear and loathing.
 
Indeed, it promises to be a long, hot summer, campaign-wise, for Team Obama as it bounces from one disingenuous claim to another, from demanding "fairness" in tax gouging to shore up government's unsustainable spending to demonizing presumptive GOP nominee Mitt Romney for being -- what else? -- successful.
 
But "run" as it will, the Obama campaign cannot hide from the incumbent's abysmal record.
 
Should the U.S. Supreme Court uphold ObamaCare, Mr. Obama's signature legislative "accomplishment," government's reach will extend into 17 percent of the U.S. economy, beginning next year with new taxes on investment income.
 
And don't expect any kind of correction in government's spending and spiraling debt from an administration that has increased annual spending from $3 trillion in 2008 to $3.5 trillion in 2010 and is on course to grow it to $5.5 trillion in less than a decade, writes Pete du Pont for The Wall Street Journal. Reforming the sinkholes of entitlement spending (Social Security, Medicare) would be moot, as would be any energy policy that taps America's vast natural resources.
 
Four more years of President Obama? America cannot afford it.

http://triblive.com/opinion/1881103-74/obama-spending-campaign-government-trillion-afford-america-cannot-summer-35


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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #380 on: May 31, 2012, 10:53:47 AM »
Romney takes lead in Ohio : Rasmussen Romney 46%, Obama 44%
 Rasmussen Reports ^

Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012

Mitt Romney has inched ahead of President Obama in Ohio, taking the lead in the key battleground state after the president has led there for several months.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Ohio Voters shows Romney with 46% support to Obama’s 44%. Six percent (6%) like some other candidate, and five percent (5%) remain undecided.


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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #381 on: May 31, 2012, 11:05:32 AM »
David Axelrod To Romney Protesters: 'You Can't Handle The Truth!'
Grace Wyler|May 31, 2012, 12:23 PM|741|20
 
Courtesy of CNN



 
Senior Obama campaign advisor David Axelrod just lost his cool on a group of rowdy Mitt Romney supporters protesting his press conference on the steps of the Massachusetts State House.
 
"You can't handle the truth, my friends!" Axelrod yelled at the protesters. "If you could handle the truth, then you would quiet down."
 
Flanked by a crew of Massachusetts Democrats, Axelrod attempted to open up the Obama campaign's new front against Romney, attacking his record as governor of Massachusetts.
 
But this morning's remarks were drowned out by the protesters, made up mostly of Romney campaign staffers and volunteers, who booed, blew bubbles, and shouted things like "Solyndra!" "Cory Booker!" "Elect Mitt!" and "Go Home!"
 
"You can shout down speakers my friends, but it’s hard to etch a sketch the truth away," Axelrod told the chanters. He later called the debacle "the great pageant of democracy."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/david-axelrod-to-romney-protesters-you-cant-handle-the-truth-2012-5#ixzz1wTHI5XMt




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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #382 on: May 31, 2012, 11:27:55 AM »
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Rasmussen: Romney now up in Ohio (also in Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia)
 Hotair ^ | 06/01/2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2012 2:19:42 PM by SeekAndFind

Not just in Ohio, Rasmussen states, but also in Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia. In case you haven’t been keeping score, those are four states that Barack Obama won in 2008, and which Mitt Romney must take away to have a shot at the Presidency in November. According to the latest from Rasmussen, Romney’s on his way. After just one month of focusing all his efforts on Obama, Romney now has leads in all four swing states:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows Mitt Romney with 46% of the vote to President Obama’s 45%. …

Romney has inched ahead of Obama in Ohio, taking the lead in the key battleground state after the president has led there for several months. This also marks a continuing shift in the critical Core Four states – Ohio, Florida, North Carolina and Virginia – with the Republican now leading in all four for the first time in Rasmussen Reports polling this year.

Only the Ohio numbers are fresh, actually, but they are critical. “Inched” is probably a good description for Ohio; Romney leads only by two, 46/44. The low level of support for Obama as an incumbent with Romney only now winning the GOP nomination is probably the bigger story. Rasmussen has a D/R/I sample in this survey of 34/31/35, which is much better for Democrats than the 36/37/28 that turned out in the 2010 midterms. If anything, this poll might undersample Republicans. Romney leads Obama among independents by a wide margin, 47/35, a disastrous outcome for Obama in Ohio. The gender gap actually tilts slightly in Romney’s favor, with a 51/39 lead among men and a 41/48 deficit among women. Romney wins majorities among the two older age demos, while losing younger voters by 21 points, 32/53. Obama loses or ties in all income demographics except the under-$20K demo, winning that 57/31.

Some of the questions on this survey produce rather amusing results. For instance, 55% of respondents say they’re choosing between the lesser of two evils rather than out of enthusiasm for Romney or Obama, with the majority of Democrats enthused and two-thirds of Republicans and independents resigned to their vote.

Two-thirds say that the process has not produced the best possible candidates, with that judgment more or less consistent across partisan lines. Among more traditional measures, Romney leads on the economy by nine points, and that will undoubtedly worsen if the jobs numbers slide tomorrow and the next couple of months, as it looks like they might. His favorability is low at 48/50, but Obama’s job approval is worse at 46/54. Among independents, it’s an absolutely horrid 35/65, with 45% of independents strongly disapproving of Obama’s performance.

Losing a grip on Ohio in and of itself isn’t a campaign-ender for Obama. The problem will be whether that trend spills over into Pennsylvania and Virginia, as well as Wisconsin. If Obama loses those states as well as Florida and Virginia, the election will be over before the Central Time Zone states close their polls on Election Day.


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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #383 on: May 31, 2012, 05:31:14 PM »
Come with something original, instead of this bumper sticker spiel.

While you're at it, try addressing Obama "flip-flopping", for once.
Your hate won't win because the momentum of the nation has already achieved critical mass among the citizens of the United States.

Your thoughts are archaic at best and a will become a blight up on your conscience should you, one day, adopt principles of fairness and equal rights.

You justify your hate through a doctrine which enslaved a people for four hundred years and then spat upon them when the chains were lifted.

Your children, should you have any and should they become aware of how you behaved at this critical moment in history, will be ashamed.

There, that's a bit long for a bumper sticker, wouldn't you say?
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #384 on: May 31, 2012, 06:21:51 PM »
Your hate won't win because the momentum of the nation has already achieved critical mass among the citizens of the United States.

Your thoughts are archaic at best and a will become a blight up on your conscience should you, one day, adopt principles of fairness and equal rights.

You justify your hate through a doctrine which enslaved a people for four hundred years and then spat upon them when the chains were lifted.

Your children, should you have any and should they become aware of how you behaved at this critical moment in history, will be ashamed.

There, that's a bit long for a bumper sticker, wouldn't you say?

The snide elitist who helps the children of China's ruling elite further oppress their countrymen while making 100x what the average Chinese makes is quite the smug little dirtbag.

How much of your paycheck do you give back to help the poor in China? I'm guessing 0%.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #385 on: May 31, 2012, 06:24:43 PM »
You justify your hate through a doctrine which enslaved a people for four hundred years and then spat upon them when the chains were lifted.

Pretty sure Mcway is black(ish). At least going by Benny B's incessent claims of "Uncle Tom" and "House Negro" anytime Mcway doesnt tow the line.

So this sentence is kinda hilarious.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #386 on: May 31, 2012, 06:30:31 PM »
Your hate won't win because the momentum of the nation has already achieved critical mass among the citizens of the United States.

Your thoughts are archaic at best and a will become a blight up on your conscience should you, one day, adopt principles of fairness and equal rights.

You justify your hate through a doctrine which enslaved a people for four hundred years and then spat upon them when the chains were lifted.

Your children, should you have any and should they become aware of how you behaved at this critical moment in history, will be ashamed.

There, that's a bit long for a bumper sticker, wouldn't you say?

LOL @ you slurring a black man. Moron.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #387 on: May 31, 2012, 06:35:48 PM »
Your hate won't win because the momentum of the nation has already achieved critical mass among the citizens of the United States.

Your thoughts are archaic at best and a will become a blight up on your conscience should you, one day, adopt principles of fairness and equal rights.

You justify your hate through a doctrine which enslaved a people for four hundred years and then spat upon them when the chains were lifted.

Your children, should you have any and should they become aware of how you behaved at this critical moment in history, will be ashamed.

There, that's a bit long for a bumper sticker, wouldn't you say?

What momentum of the nation?  The citizens have said, LOUD AND CLEAR, how they feel about this issue THIRTY-TWO TIMES, at the ballot box where it counts, not biased ridiculous polls.

Not a single gay "marriage" supporter (including YOU) are willing to put that notion of yours to the test on election day. In fact, people like you were citing these polls, three weeks ago, as North Carolina EASILY passed its marriage amendment.

Four states vote on this issue in November. And, I'm sure you'll be citing the polls, talking about the "momentum of the nation", staring down the barrel of 0-36.

BTW, I already have children and the ones old enough to understand this issue are as appalled by the notion of this garbage of gay "marriage" as I am.


And, you STILL have yet to address Obama convenient flip-flopping....ahem...evolution. Try that one on for size.

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #388 on: May 31, 2012, 06:38:00 PM »
Pretty sure Mcway is black(ish). At least going by Benny B's incessent claims of "Uncle Tom" and "House Negro" anytime Mcway doesnt tow the line.

So this sentence is kinda hilarious.

No "ish", just black, proud, and (unlike the spineless Benny) CONSERVATIVE!!

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #389 on: May 31, 2012, 06:54:26 PM »
No "ish", just black, proud, and (unlike the spineless Benny) CONSERVATIVE!!

 ;D

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #390 on: May 31, 2012, 06:57:31 PM »
Where is Benny to defend his threads? V

Hiding on G&O, irritating people, who have told him time and time again to take his foolishness to this forum (where he can be picked apart, properly).

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #391 on: May 31, 2012, 06:58:58 PM »
Hiding on G&O, irritating people, who have told him time and time again to take his foolishness to this forum (where he can be picked apart, properly).

The meltdowns on the left are so funny lately. 

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #392 on: May 31, 2012, 10:34:48 PM »
What momentum of the nation?  The citizens have said, LOUD AND CLEAR, how they feel about this issue THIRTY-TWO TIMES, at the ballot box where it counts, not biased ridiculous polls.

Not a single gay "marriage" supporter (including YOU) are willing to put that notion of yours to the test on election day. In fact, people like you were citing these polls, three weeks ago, as North Carolina EASILY passed its marriage amendment.

Four states vote on this issue in November. And, I'm sure you'll be citing the polls, talking about the "momentum of the nation", staring down the barrel of 0-36.

BTW, I already have children and the ones old enough to understand this issue are as appalled by the notion of this garbage of gay "marriage" as I am.


And, you STILL have yet to address Obama convenient flip-flopping....ahem...evolution. Try that one on for size.

Forty years ago, "gay bashing" was not even considered a hate crime. That changed.

Twenty years ago, someone could be kicked out of the military because they were found to be gay. That changed.

Last year DADT was repealled. A huge change.

The next generation of voters is incredibly against your oppressive paradigm.

The course of history is clear.

Your talk of a referendum of hate is especially ironic given the fact that, with any ounce of integrity of admission on your part, the Jim Crow South would have existed for decades past 1964 if it were simply left to a vote. Do you support racist laws such as those given it was put to a vote?

What if we had just let Georgia vote on whether or not to have slavery or get rid of it in 1863? Which way do you think that would have gone? Would you have been a slave yourself but been silent because "that's the majority".

A consitutional democracy must operate with a special protection for minorities. I believe you know and understand this, but you're just not being honest about it here.

As to Obama, of course he can't simply put forth equality all at once. There are too many narrow-minded people, like yourself, and this has to be done gradually.

Jesus Christ, by your definition Abraham Lincoln was a "flip flopper", since he didn't come in to the White House saying he was going to go to war with the South.

I'm saddened to hear that you have taught your children to hate from day one. You haven't learned much from history.

Maybe you should go and pray that god keeps your power for oppression a little longer, since it seems to bring you such happiness.
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #393 on: May 31, 2012, 10:36:06 PM »
LOL @ you slurring a black man. Moron.
Look. I don't fear or hate black men. That's your "thing".

When a man is wrong, he's wrong. I'm not afraid to tell him.

So save it.
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #394 on: May 31, 2012, 11:35:12 PM »
Forty years ago, "gay bashing" was not even considered a hate crime. That changed.

Twenty years ago, someone could be kicked out of the military because they were found to be gay. That changed.

Last year DADT was repealled. A huge change.

The next generation of voters is incredibly against your oppressive paradigm.

Where is the next generation, on game day (that is, election day). 32 times, the next generation has had the opportunity to stand and be counted on this issue. And 32 times, they've been either MIA or they didn't vote the way the polls predicted they would.


The course of history is clear.

Your talk of a referendum of hate is especially ironic given the fact that, with any ounce of integrity of admission on your part, the Jim Crow South would have existed for decades past 1964 if it were simply left to a vote. Do you support racist laws such as those given it was put to a vote?

I'm sorry! Where were the amendments to vote on Jim Crow laws again? Or did you forget that by the time the Supreme Court did its things, most of the states has desegregated ON THEIR OWN?


What if we had just let Georgia vote on whether or not to have slavery or get rid of it in 1863? Which way do you think that would have gone? Would you have been a slave yourself but been silent because "that's the majority".

A consitutional democracy must operate with a special protection for minorities. I believe you know and understand this, but you're just not being honest about it here.

As to Obama, of course he can't simply put forth equality all at once. There are too many narrow-minded people, like yourself, and this has to be done gradually.

Nice try. Obama lied his keister off in 2008. Then, once he got into office, he showed his true colors. He looked pastor Rick Warren dead in the eye, after being asked what the definition of marriage is. Obama said, it's one man and one woman.

Jesus Christ, by your definition Abraham Lincoln was a "flip flopper", since he didn't come in to the White House saying he was going to go to war with the South.

I'm saddened to hear that you have taught your children to hate from day one. You haven't learned much from history.

Maybe you should go and pray that god keeps your power for oppression a little longer, since it seems to bring you such happiness.

In other words, this is the usual liberal flap that lying and flip-flopping is OK, as long as you land on the left-winged side of things.

What I've taught my children that marriage is comprised of man and woman, not the perversion of two guys or two girls playing house with each other.

What I've learned from history is that this garbage only become and remains legal, when the power to vote is suppressed by the left and tied up in political wranglings. Once the people (of all ages, races, creeds, colors, and religions) vote on it, it's all over for gay "marriage".

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Re: Obama vs Romney
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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #396 on: June 01, 2012, 11:04:24 AM »
Team Obama Finds Romney Hard Target to Hit
 Townhall.com ^ | June 1, 2012 | Scott Rasmussen





The Obama campaign's early attempts to attack Mitt Romney's record at Bain Capital or present him as too extreme to be president have not worked out all that well so far. The early stumbles have created a flurry of commentaries wondering what's wrong with the team that performed so flawlessly in Election 2008.

The answer may have nothing to do with the Obama campaign and have everything to do with the fact that Romney appears to be a tougher target than anticipated.

On the Bain Capital front, 44 percent of voters say Romney's business experience there is primarily a reason to vote for him, and only 33 percent see it as a negative. More importantly, though, a solid majority of voters believes that venture capital firms are better at job creation than new government programs.

That creates a major challenge for the Obama team: How can they go after Romney as a venture capitalist without appearing to attack the free market system that Americans wholeheartedly embrace?

Adding to the challenge for the president is that attacking venture capital firms reinforces a perception that he is already too far to the left on economic issues.

Most voters think cutting government spending will be good for the economy but feel the president wants more spending instead. Seventy percent of voters believe the president is politically liberal. That figure includes 46 percent who say he is very liberal. That's not where you want to be perceived in a center-right nation.

Overall, 43 percent of voters consider themselves conservative and just 26 percent liberal. Mostly, though, voters are pragmatic rather than ideological, and there is a distrust of those who are seen as strongly ideological. Only a modest number of voters describe themselves as either very conservative or very liberal, leaving more than seven out of 10 voters closer to the center.

That's where they perceive Romney to be. Fifty-six percent of voters see Romney as either politically moderate or somewhat conservative.

This creates another major challenge for the Obama team: How can they paint Romney as ideologically extreme when voters see the president as the more ideological candidate?

Obviously, all of these perceptions could shift over the course of the campaign. The president will try to convince voters he is a pragmatist rather than an ideologue. His team will try to paint Romney as out-of-touch with the concerns of day-to-day voters and to portray his business career as insensitive and predatory. Political junkies will continue to obsess over tactical decisions made by the campaign.

But the underlying reality is that Team Obama has a difficult hand to play. The economy matters more than campaign tactics, and the indicators at the moment are mixed at best. Additionally, most Americans believe that the president's instincts lead in the wrong direction when it comes to finding solutions.


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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #397 on: June 01, 2012, 11:06:57 AM »
Team Obama Finds Romney Hard Target to Hit
 Townhall.com ^ | June 1, 2012 | Scott Rasmussen





The Obama campaign's early attempts to attack Mitt Romney's record at Bain Capital or present him as too extreme to be president have not worked out all that well so far. The early stumbles have created a flurry of commentaries wondering what's wrong with the team that performed so flawlessly in Election 2008.

The answer may have nothing to do with the Obama campaign and have everything to do with the fact that Romney appears to be a tougher target than anticipated.

On the Bain Capital front, 44 percent of voters say Romney's business experience there is primarily a reason to vote for him, and only 33 percent see it as a negative. More importantly, though, a solid majority of voters believes that venture capital firms are better at job creation than new government programs.

That creates a major challenge for the Obama team: How can they go after Romney as a venture capitalist without appearing to attack the free market system that Americans wholeheartedly embrace?

Adding to the challenge for the president is that attacking venture capital firms reinforces a perception that he is already too far to the left on economic issues.

Most voters think cutting government spending will be good for the economy but feel the president wants more spending instead. Seventy percent of voters believe the president is politically liberal. That figure includes 46 percent who say he is very liberal. That's not where you want to be perceived in a center-right nation.

Overall, 43 percent of voters consider themselves conservative and just 26 percent liberal. Mostly, though, voters are pragmatic rather than ideological, and there is a distrust of those who are seen as strongly ideological. Only a modest number of voters describe themselves as either very conservative or very liberal, leaving more than seven out of 10 voters closer to the center.

That's where they perceive Romney to be. Fifty-six percent of voters see Romney as either politically moderate or somewhat conservative.

This creates another major challenge for the Obama team: How can they paint Romney as ideologically extreme when voters see the president as the more ideological candidate?

Obviously, all of these perceptions could shift over the course of the campaign. The president will try to convince voters he is a pragmatist rather than an ideologue. His team will try to paint Romney as out-of-touch with the concerns of day-to-day voters and to portray his business career as insensitive and predatory. Political junkies will continue to obsess over tactical decisions made by the campaign.

But the underlying reality is that Team Obama has a difficult hand to play. The economy matters more than campaign tactics, and the indicators at the moment are mixed at best. Additionally, most Americans believe that the president's instincts lead in the wrong direction when it comes to finding solutions.



Ok,....blah blah.. wanna put your money where your mouth is... want to make a friendly bet?

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Re: Obama vs Romney
« Reply #398 on: June 01, 2012, 11:15:01 AM »
Ok,....blah blah.. wanna put your money where your mouth is... want to make a friendly bet?


Fine - here is the deal -

If Obama wins - I change my AV to a Obama pic and if mittens wins you change your AV to a romney one - for 3 months. 

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« Reply #399 on: June 01, 2012, 11:15:50 AM »

Fine - here is the deal -

If Obama wins - I change my AV to a Obama pic and if mittens wins you change your AV to a romney one - for 3 months. 

Ok? 

Thats good all good with me