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361,000 people voted.
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seeing as how bush has nearly a 40% approval rating, not sure how accurate that is in real terms. cheney would just take his place so what's the benifit?
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less than 40 % aproval rate is good ? hahahaha
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less than 40 % aproval rate is good ? hahahaha
no, where did i say that? his approval rating would need to be much lower to justify 87% wanting him impeached.
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I'm now one hundred percent convinced that only the truly idiotic watch MSNBC. ::)
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no, where did i say that? his approval rating would need to be much lower to justify 87% wanting him impeached.
His approval rating is actually only 13%,the other 27% came from Florida and they are still recounting the votes.
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ha ha no fuckin way atg all. he does sucks, but not that much
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His approval rating is actually only 13%,the other 27% came from Florida and they are still recounting the votes.
BAM!!!! ;D
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seeing as how bush has nearly a 40% approval rating
If my kid came home bragging about a 40% on a spelling test, I'd smack him with a dictionary
;D
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The only people left watching MSNBC are liberals who can't stand the fact that FNC is #1 in cable news. Fair and Balanced bitches!!!
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chaney would just take his place so what's the benifit?
The president and vice president can be impeached together can't they?
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he cant be impeached. for what the war? that the senate voted for?
if you dont like bush thats fine, but if you know anything look at the times were living in right now. unemployment is the lowest in history and the economy is one of the best in history. considering were also fighting a war there shouldn't be much to complain about.
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he cant be impeached. for what the war? that the senate voted for?
if you dont like bush thats fine, but if you know anything look at the times were living in right now. unemployment is the lowest in history and the economy is one of the best in history. considering were also fighting a war there shouldn't be much to complain about.
Bush Misled America about the Threat from Iraq
If Saddam Hussein was an immediate and serious threat to America, as the White House claimed, then Bush might have been justified in invading Iraq. But it appears that Bush misled the public, the Congress and the UN by consistently overstating the threat from Iraq. By lying to Congress, Bush violated US Laws related to Fraud and False Statements, Title 18, Chapter 47, Section 1001 and Conspiracy to Defraud the United States, Title 18, Chapter 19, Section 371.
Lie #1 - Uranium from guy - Bush said "The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." in his State of the Union Address.
Lie #2 - Iraq and 9/11 - Bush led people to believe that Iraq was involved with 9/11 by repeatedly linking them in his speeches. This was so effective that at one point 70% of Americans actually believed Saddam was behind 9/11. Bush has since admitted that this was not true.
Lie #3 - Congress Knew - Bush has stated that Congress had access to all the same information that the White House had. Thus he should not be blamed for making the mistake of going to war. But Bush was briefed many times about the falsehood of various stories and this information never reached Congress. [ZNet]
Lie #4 - Aluminum Tubes - Bush, Cheney, Rice and Powell said that aluminum tubes Iraq attempted to buy were intended for use in a uranium centrifuge to create nuclear weapons. These were the only physical evidence he had against Iraq. But it turns out this evidence had been rejected by the Department of Energy and other intelligence agencies long before Bush used them in his speeches. [NYTimes] [MotherJones] [CNN]
Lie #5 - Iraq and Al Qaeda - Bush still insists that there was a "relationship" between Iraq and Al Qaeda. But the 9/11 Commission released a report saying, among other things, that there was no "collaborative relationship" between Al Qaeda and Iraq. The nature of the relationship seems to be that Al Qaeda asked for help and Iraq refused. Al Qaeda was opposed to Saddam Hussein because Saddam led a secular government instead of an Islamic government. [ZNet] [CNN] On 9/8/06 a Senate panel reported there was no relationship. [ABC]
Lie #6 - Weapons of Mass Destruction - Bush insisted that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction but his "evidence" consisted mostly of forged documents, plagiarized student papers, and vague satellite photos. The United Nations was on the ground in Iraq and could find nothing. After extensive searches Bush was finally forced to admit that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction.
Lie #7 - Mobile Weapons Labs - Bush and his team repeatedly claimed that Iraq possessed mobile weapons labs capable of producing anthrax. Colin Powell showed diagrams of them at his speech before the UN to justify invading Iraq. These claims originated from Curveball, a discredited Iraqi informer who fed Bush many of the stories related to WMD. On May 29, 2003, two small trailers matching the description were found in Iraq. A team of bio-weapons experts examined the trailers and concluded they were simply designed to produce hydrogen for weather balloons. But, for over a year, Bush claimed these were part of Iraq's bio-weapons program. The expert's report was suppressed and only recently made public. [WashPost]
Lie Factory - The Secret Propaganda Team - Bush wanted so much to convince people of the need to invade Iraq that the White House set up a secret team in the Pentagon to create evidence. The Office of Special Plans routinely rewrote the CIA's intelligence estimates on Iraq's weapons programs, removing caveats such as "likely," "probably" and "may" as a way of depicting the country as an imminent threat. They also used unreliable sources to create reports that ultimately proved to be false. [Mother Jones] [New Yorker] [Wikipedia]
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he cant be impeached.
He broke the law. He violated his oath. yes, he can be.
They're not going to. They dealt Rummy out in exchange for it being off the table, but the investigations on downing, wiretapping and others might lead to new places and circumstances.
I'm shocked that so many people are MAD that we have a system of checks and balances now. If ANYONE broke laws, shouldn't we know about it and they be punished? I KNOW that no repub here is saying that's it's okay for a repub to break the law, right?
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he didnt break any laws. oh no not the wire tapping. is this the same wiretap that was used to stop the truck loaded with explosives in nyc, with a most wanted terrorist at the wheel? what an asshole bush is, stopping new york from being bombed
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he didnt break any laws. oh no not the wire tapping. is this the same wiretap that was used to stop the truck loaded with explosives in nyc, with a most wanted terrorist at the wheel? what an asshole bush is, stopping new york from being bombed
He was given very clear instructions not to wiretap without a supoena. He did it anyway. He broke the law.
I can appreciate your loyalty to the party. But open your eyes, man.
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yes he did break the law. but didnt he saved thousands of lives?
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yes he did break the law. but didnt he saved thousands of lives?
lol..... yeah ok. ::)
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there was a truck stooped on the Brooklyn bridge carrying thousands of pounds of explosives. what do you think the terrorists inside of it were doing. that was how they were caught wiretapping
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there was a truck stooped on the Brooklyn bridge carrying thousands of pounds of explosives. what do you think the terrorists inside of it were doing. that was how they were caught wiretapping
ok, provide a news link :-X
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dumb libs dont even know about the wmds found in iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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dumb libs dont even know about the wmds found in iraq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What the 500 (15 year old chemical munition) shells they found in 2's and 3's all over the country?
You mean the ones that have about as much tatical impact as a toothpaste?
This is what 3000 American citizens died for? What 3000 mom's mourn for? What 20,000 wounded suffered for? What 50k to 600K Iraqis died for? What we spend 2.6 billion a week for?
Nothing like a stupid brain washed neo-con drone to poke fun at.
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If my kid came home bragging about a 40% on a spelling test, I'd smack him with a dictionary
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cum on 240, he don't need to no none of that there book learnin'
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As far as thge president goes, a 40% approval rating SUCKS BALLS
Get over it BUSH drones, the senate and congress are in the DEM's hands mainly becuase of BUSH and his follies. Geez with a pathetic leadership line up like Hillary and Kerry you still lost!
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What the 500 (15 year old chemical munition) shells they found in 2's and 3's all over the country?
You mean the ones that have about as much tatical impact as a toothpaste?
This is what 3000 American citizens died for? What 3000 mom's mourn for? What 20,000 wounded suffered for? What 50k to 600K Iraqis died for? What we spend billion a week for?
Nothing like a stupid brain washed neo-con drone to poke fun at.
I'm joking lol. That was my Mr.I impression.
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I'm joking lol. That was my Mr.I impression.
OMG i'm sorry ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm joking lol. That was my Mr.I impression.
lol
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Sorry numbers for an absolute mediocre president.
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economy- one of the best in history.Turned around an inherited economy from clinton that was in recession
unemployment- lowest in history
new jobs- more created under bush than clinton
besides the war what has this guy done wrong?
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economy- one of the best in history.Turned around an inherited economy from clinton that was in recession
unemployment- lowest in history
new jobs- more created under bush than clinton
besides the war what has this guy done wrong?
The war is a pretty big thing..
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economy- one of the best in history.Turned around an inherited economy from clinton that was in recession
unemployment- lowest in history
new jobs- more created under bush than clinton
besides the war what has this guy done wrong?
the war plus all the things attached to it.
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http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/09/27/clinton.surplus/
vs.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/20/politics/main656797.shtml
LOL
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cuz of the war. national debt means shit. well just do what clinton did and take taxes. the nd will be gone in a week
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cuz of the war. national debt means shit. well just do what clinton did and take taxes. the nd will be gone in a week
lol in a week? ::)
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His approval rating is actually only 13%,the other 27% came from Florida and they are still recounting the votes.
{ROTFLMAO}
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economy- one of the best in history.Turned around an inherited economy from clinton that was in recession
unemployment- lowest in history
new jobs- more created under bush than clinton
besides the war what has this guy done wrong?
horse shit.
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As far as thge president goes, a 40% approval rating SUCKS BALLS
Get over it BUSH drones, the senate and congress are in the DEM's hands mainly becuase of BUSH and his follies. Geez with a pathetic leadership line up like Hillary and Kerry you still lost!
You better check your stats....we barly lost, most of the races in the country were lost by a VERY VERY small margin. And your right, the Dems won and we're fucked!!
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You better check your stats....we barly lost, most of the races in the country were lost by a VERY VERY small margin. And your right, the Dems won and we're fucked!!
you are an idiot.
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I imagine a Getbig where all arguments are rationally based and not this ad hominem bullshit. ... wait, what am I thinking? Go on with the personal bashing.
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You better check your stats....we barly lost, most of the races in the country were lost by a VERY VERY small margin.
This is right. This election wasn't anything like the Republican takeover in 94 (?). Many races were very close. The party in power almost always loses seats in non-presidential year elections. On top of that, this was a one issue campaign for Democrats (the war). They won't have that luxury in 08. I suspect that in 08 Republicans win the White House again (especially if Hillary is the Democrat nominee), Dems keep the House, and Republicans take back the Senate (depending on whose seats are up).
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my insult to him was based ONLY on his view that just because the democrats came out on top that we are all fucked.I am no fan of Bush,but there are good and bad polititions on both sides.I am not a Liberal,but I am no conservative either.I never vote a straight ticket,I vote for the candidate I think is best.
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I've yet to hear the answer. HOW are we fucked now that the Dems control congress?
Specifically, what legislation will they introduce, and what vulnerabilities will it entail? The only diff between the parties, that I see, is that the Dems don't throw a dead OBL puppet in our face every time they lag in the polls.
How will the dems and pelosi endanger us? Anyone?
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I get what you are saying. I just figured Mr. Intensome could make himself look like a "fucking idiot" rather than you pointing it out.
I kind of see George Bush and Osama as two different parts of the same seven headed dragon, anyway.
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I've yet to hear the answer. HOW are we fucked now that the Dems control congress?
Specifically, what legislation will they introduce, and what vulnerabilities will it entail? The only diff between the parties, that I see, is that the Dems don't throw a dead OBL puppet in our face every time they lag in the polls.
How will the dems and pelosi endanger us? Anyone?
No matter who wins we all lose. If you really look at the ideological differences between the two parties they turn out to be extremly similar.
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Supernatural, you are wise.
The parties are similar, but there are elements in each which do not subscribe to that neocon bullshit, and there are stragglers in congress (mcKinney and that one guy whose daughter got arrested the week before elections) who do call for a new 911 investigation.
One investigation is all it'll fucking take, too. Let the skeptics show their piece, and let the govt find us the answers. it'll unite the country, either way. We'll all realize that "yes, that makes sense now", or much more likely, the monster holes will expose the monster lie.
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my insult to him was based ONLY on his view that just because the democrats came out on top that we are all fucked.I am no fan of Bush,but there are good and bad polititions on both sides.I am not a Liberal,but I am no conservative either.I never vote a straight ticket,I vote for the candidate I think is best.
I doubt they can do much damage in two years, particularly when they don't have the White House and they don't have a veto-proof majority. I suspect there will be gridlock for the next couple years.
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I doubt they can do much damage in two years, particularly when they don't have the White House and they don't have a veto-proof majority. I suspect there will be gridlock for the next couple years.
but their ability to pass big changes -- and make the repubs in congress commit, or make bush commit to a veto --- could be huge. This gives the dems a chance to *gasp* win both in 2008. And hear this now... Obama might just step aside and let an unbiased 911 commission do their job.
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but their ability to pass big changes -- and make the repubs in congress commit, or make bush commit to a veto --- could be huge. This gives the dems a chance to *gasp* win both in 2008. And hear this now... Obama might just step aside and let an unbiased 911 commission do their job.
I'll be holding my breath for these "big changes." They sure didn't talk about them during the campaign.
And I've said this before, but Obama hasn't really said or done anything yet. Once he defines himself on hot button issues he will immediately alienate a significant voting block (liberals or conservatives) and his popularity will decrease. I'll make up my mind about him after I've heard him take positions on substantive issues.
Plus I'm not sure he can overcome the race factor. The country is still full of bigots. Some of them even frequent this board. . . .
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Obama will have problems, but Hilary is so good at alienating people. I guess kerry, gore, or edwards could still win.
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Hillary cannot win a national election IMO. Kerry would be DOA. Only a fool would vote for that terd. Gore?? He couldn't even win his home state.
I think Edwards should run.