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Title: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 11, 2009, 01:22:47 AM
Who are the greatest tag teams of all time? Sure, there were many great tag teams during the history of wrestling that made an impact. But I feel these four teams revolutionized the sport so much that they changed the face of wrestling and beyond. It comes down to impact, chemistry, influence, innovation and of course, charisma!! It is in those categories that truly make a great team in the world of wrestling (not titles, which so many think). It's these traits that bring wrestling to the media and the world and capture the imagination of fans that they keep them coming back for more!!



1. Legion of Doom, Road Warriors Hawk and Animal:

They brought in the stylized face paint, haircuts and overall look to wrestling that everybody copied and it became a major fad in the mid 80's onto the late 90's that every promotion was trying to capitalize on. They were the first real deal, scary, steroid-sized monsters that moved and worked like no other team before them (their press and slam had more of an impact on the crowd than any other wrestler who ever did the move before them and only a few since has been able to duplicate it's aura. It should also be noted that both Hawk or Animal had never been pressed by another wrestler due to respect). They had an aura of invincibility that few could ever match in the entire history of wrestling (almost on par with Andre). They didn't lose a match by a pinfall for almost 6 years straight and either Hawk or Animal has never been submitted in a match. They were one of the only tag teams in history that was main event status and the ONLY team ever that promotions had to build their talent around. They were the only tag team rated number 1 in every magazine even when they didn't have any titles and they remained number 1 for almost 10 years straight!!! Not to mention they held every title of every major promotion (NWA, AWA, and WWF) at the time and no other team ever duplicated this feat and never will. They were always cool and loved by everyone as heel and baby face and they never changed there style accordingly. Had one of the top 10 greatest managers of all time, Paul Ellering, guide them and together they had absolutely perfect chemistry with each other in the ring or on the mic. And as amazing as that was, the Warriors were so over that when Ellering didn't accompany them to the WWF it didn't even matter. They had such an impression that they won the Georgia tag titles in their VERY FIRST match together and grew from there. It took every other team in wrestling from ALL OVER THE WORLD almost 5 years to even catch up to them and still they were considered the best of the bunch. There reign of dominance and aura lasted for almost 20 years and even when they slowed down at the end of their career, when they entered the ring you still felt they could win the match regardless of what team they were facing. Only a handful of wrestlers who ever lived had that kind of an aura and even less had it at the tail end of their careers. Simply put, they are the standard for any team to match and this will never change.


2.British Bulldogs, Dynamite Kid and Davey Boy Smith:

This team had tremendous charisma and chemistry and brought a style to wrestling that revolutionized the way people did maneuvers in the ring and as a team. Back in the mid 80's you really believed these guys could walk on water and fly through the air, everything was so smooth and made you drop your jaw. Dynamite was the first extreme wrestler (and what I believe to be the best all around "in ring" worker ever, who just lacked solo charisma) and has been copied and studied by many after him. Davey boy had a perfect blend of power and agility that is tremendously underrated. Their impact and chemistry as a team was so good that they are a blueprint on how to do things in the ring and working as a team for other wrestlers. But because of their groundbreaking moves, Dynamite's style gave him and this team a short lived career (it made him a cripple today). Also they never had the charisma on the mic like they did in the ring. When they first appeared in the WWF, they had to be matched with Captain Lou Albano to help give them personality. They are not as successful as many other legendary teams title-wise, but on innovations and chemistry only the Road Warriors did better and this was because they did it for a longer period of time.


3. The Fabulous Freebirds, Michael Hayes, Terry Gordy, and Buddy Rogers:

Coming up in the late 70's in a time in wrestling where all bad guys were booed and all bayfaces were loved. The Freebirds were the very first "cool" heel in the wrestling business period. Hayes knew how to expand their charisma with flashy outfits, attitude, in ring work, mic work (without a doubt he was top 10 on the mic all time) and entrance music (they were the first to do this) that enhanced this team into the public's imagination. They were incredibly innovative and all could work a match and crowd to it's greatest potential. Their feuds with the Von Erich's is one of the the top 10 greatest in the history of wrestling. And this is largely because of the heat and style that the Freebirds brought. They have never rose to the heights as a lot of teams in this business but because of their innovations they were revered and copied on so many levels by other wrestlers after them. If you think I'm wrong, look at the 4 Horsemen, D-Generation, NWO, etc. to see where their blueprints come from. That's how innovative the Freebirds were!!

4. The Steiner Brothers, Rick and Scott Steiner:

No other team since the Road Warriors captured the imagination of fans like these two. It took them a few years to develop, but once they found their groove, they had a HUGE almost 10 year run. And in that run they brought the high impact moves and stylized suplexes to the ring. If you look at all the teams in the 90's you have to give them the edge for that period when they were at their peak. They were the first team to cleanly pin the Road Warriors in a major event at Starcade 89. And they had back and forth matches that both teams would win and lose. Scott Steiner's "Frankenstiener" maneuver also captured the imagination of the crowd and innovated the wrestling world. Their only knock was their lack of mic skills (even though Rick was a lovable character) but their in ring chemistry was so great that it was always overlooked. They had such dominance that they won every major title in every major promotion at the time and no other team had as much success during that period. But as the 90's came to a close so did the Steiners. Scott went on to a mildly successful solo career (who's attitude killed his true potential) and Rick became irrelevant. And despite a few reunions, they never recovered their glory and magic of the 90's. Pro Wrestling Illustrated ranked them as the #2 tag team ever (behind the Road Warriors) but I just don't think their impact and innovations can be ranked higher than the other teams on this list.


Just so you think I haven't left out some legends, here are a few honorable mentions:

Dick the Bruiser and The Crusher
Ole and Gene Anderson
The Rock n Roll Express
The Midnight Express, Dennis Condrey and Bobby Eaton
The Samoans
The Midnight Rockers
The Hart Foundation
Iron Sheik and Nikolai Volkoff
The Outlaws, Dusty Rhodes and Dick Murdock
Stan Hansen and Bruiser Brody
Abdullah the Butcher and the Sheik
The Funks
The Briscos
Nick Bockwinkal and Ray Stevens
Tully Blanchard and Arn Anderson
Tony Atlas and Rocky Johnson

I'm sure there's more but I'm tired...

Okay guys let's hear what you have to say!!
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 11, 2009, 05:20:18 AM
Great thread...


I always loved Demolition.
Many folks say they were a rip-off of the Road Warriors/LOD, but outside of being big guys with face paint, I think there were enough differences.
Would anyone consider Sting or UW an LOD knock-off?

Few workers could (and can) cut a promo like Bill Eadie.

And it’s not that I don’t like Bryan Adams (RIP), but I just like the ORIGINAL DEMO better.
Always have.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 11, 2009, 05:46:00 AM
I also liked Strike Force – Tito & Martel were both good workers by themselves before the team, and I think they would’ve lasted a bit longer had WWF not had an over-saturation of face teams at the time.

Eddie & Chavo were magnificent due to sheer entertainment value.

Jesse Ventura and Adrian Adonis drew some good heat up in AWA.

I was always surprised the old man didn’t do more with Bundy & Studd. They would have made a GREAT monster heel tag team.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: funk51 on December 11, 2009, 01:12:41 PM
hans and max mortier were my all time favorites. loved there feuds with the graham brothers.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: funk51 on December 11, 2009, 01:13:58 PM
hey where'd the pic go?
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Skeeter on December 11, 2009, 02:28:27 PM
(http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/377012/493792)
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 11, 2009, 04:42:29 PM
Great topic.  Back when mid-atlantic wrestling still existed, tagteam wrestling was a very big deal.  As a young kid, I remember Steamboat and Youngblood vs Sgt. Slaughter and Pvt Kernodle as being an incredible fued.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 11, 2009, 06:06:24 PM
The Killer Bees never got a significant push. They were decent, but always seemed to be missing something that the other great 80’s tag teams had.

The original Hart Foundation was always very over as both heels and later on as faces.
Bret years later mentioned that Vince became a fan the first day he & Jim walked into the back wearing their new pink and black ring gear.

I never cared for the Rougeau’s as a kid. As faces I thought they were lame, and as heels I thought they were corny and stupid.

I got to see the Powers of Pain in one of their first matches with the fed.
It was at a house show in Baltimore.
They substituted for another team and faced Strike Force.
Nobody knew who they were, but they got a decent enough reaction.

They didn't stay together long.
I think they were a little too similar to Demolition, who was much more deserving of the gimmick.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: wolfgang187 on December 11, 2009, 06:26:58 PM
What about Hulk Hogan an Edge????
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 12, 2009, 04:24:51 AM


1. Legion of Doom, Road Warriors Hawk and Animal:

They brought in the stylized face paint, haircuts and overall look to wrestling that everybody copied and it became a major fad in the mid 80's onto the late 90's that every promotion was trying to capitalize on. They were the first real deal, scary, steroid-sized monsters that moved and worked like no other team before them (their press and slam had more of an impact on the crowd than any other wrestler who ever did the move before them and only a few since has been able to duplicate it's aura. It should also be noted that both Hawk or Animal had never been pressed by another wrestler due to respect). They had an aura of invincibility that few could ever match in the entire history of wrestling (almost on par with Andre). They didn't lose a match by a pinfall for almost 6 years straight and either Hawk or Animal has never been submitted in a match. They were one of the only tag teams in history that was main event status and the ONLY team ever that promotions had to build their talent around. They were the only tag team rated number 1 in every magazine even when they didn't have any titles and they remained number 1 for almost 10 years straight!!! Not to mention they held every title of every major promotion (NWA, AWA, and WWF) at the time and no other team ever duplicated this feat and never will. They were always cool and loved by everyone as heel and baby face and they never changed there style accordingly. Had one of the top 10 greatest managers of all time, Paul Ellering, guide them and together they had absolutely perfect chemistry with each other in the ring or on the mic. And as amazing as that was, the Warriors were so over that when Ellering didn't accompany them to the WWF it didn't even matter. They had such an impression that they won the Georgia tag titles in their VERY FIRST match together and grew from there. It took every other team in wrestling from ALL OVER THE WORLD almost 5 years to even catch up to them and still they were considered the best of the bunch. There reign of dominance and aura lasted for almost 20 years and even when they slowed down at the end of their career, when they entered the ring you still felt they could win the match regardless of what team they were facing. Only a handful of wrestlers who ever lived had that kind of an aura and even less had it at the tail end of their careers. Simply put, they are the standard for any team to match and this will never change.


2.British Bulldogs, Dynamite Kid and Davey Boy Smith:

This team had tremendous charisma and chemistry and brought a style to wrestling that revolutionized the way people did maneuvers in the ring and as a team. Back in the mid 80's you really believed these guys could walk on water and fly through the air, everything was so smooth and made you drop your jaw. Dynamite was the first extreme wrestler (and what I believe to be the best all around "in ring" worker ever, who just lacked solo charisma) and has been copied and studied by many after him. Davey boy had a perfect blend of power and agility that is tremendously underrated. Their impact and chemistry as a team was so good that they are a blueprint on how to do things in the ring and working as a team for other wrestlers. But because of their groundbreaking moves, Dynamite's style gave him and this team a short lived career (it made him a cripple today). Also they never had the charisma on the mic like they did in the ring. When they first appeared in the WWF, they had to be matched with Captain Lou Albano to help give them personality. They are not as successful as many other legendary teams title-wise, but on innovations and chemistry only the Road Warriors did better and this was because they did it for a longer period of time.


3. The Fabulous Freebirds, Michael Hayes, Terry Gordy, and Buddy Rogers:

Coming up in the late 70's in a time in wrestling where all bad guys were booed and all bayfaces were loved. The Freebirds were the very first "cool" heel in the wrestling business period. Hayes knew how to expand their charisma with flashy outfits, attitude, in ring work, mic work (without a doubt he was top 10 on the mic all time) and entrance music (they were the first to do this) that enhanced this team into the public's imagination. They were incredibly innovative and all could work a match and crowd to it's greatest potential. Their feuds with the Von Erich's is one of the the top 10 greatest in the history of wrestling. And this is largely because of the heat and style that the Freebirds brought. They have never rose to the heights as a lot of teams in this business but because of their innovations they were revered and copied on so many levels by other wrestlers after them. If you think I'm wrong, look at the 4 Horsemen, D-Generation, NWO, etc. to see where their blueprints come from. That's how innovative the Freebirds were!!

4. The Steiner Brothers, Rick and Scott Steiner:

No other team since the Road Warriors captured the imagination of fans like these two. It took them a few years to develop, but once they found their groove, they had a HUGE almost 10 year run. And in that run they brought the high impact moves and stylized suplexes to the ring. If you look at all the teams in the 90's you have to give them the edge for that period when they were at their peak. They were the first team to cleanly pin the Road Warriors in a major event at Starcade 89. And they had back and forth matches that both teams would win and lose. Scott Steiner's "Frankenstiener" maneuver also captured the imagination of the crowd and innovated the wrestling world. Their only knock was their lack of mic skills (even though Rick was a lovable character) but their in ring chemistry was so great that it was always overlooked. They had such dominance that they won every major title in every major promotion at the time and no other team had as much success during that period. But as the 90's came to a close so did the Steiners. Scott went on to a mildly successful solo career (who's attitude killed his true potential) and Rick became irrelevant. And despite a few reunions, they never recovered their glory and magic of the 90's. Pro Wrestling Illustrated ranked them as the #2 tag team ever (behind the Road Warriors) but I just don't think their impact and innovations can be ranked higher than the other teams on this list.




Alot of teams that you guys are mentioning are awesome. Demolition, Powers of Pain, East West Connection, Strike Force, Killer Bees, High Flyers, Steamboat and Youngblood, Doom, The Russians, The Moondogs,  etc., etc. But if you look at the four teams mentioned you will see that they're impact, innovations, chemistry, charisma, style and influence were undeniable and were the blueprint for everything else that came after. There are many teams that came out and did things before others but their impact on the sport didn't create change or innovation. The four teams above did that and made the wrestling world follow them (think of the Beatles and how they changed music, everyone needed to sound like them or try to be as good). It's a shame that some teams who did copy them had better success because they may have done it better or got better exposure to it.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Skeeter on December 12, 2009, 01:58:37 PM
I always like High Energy. (Owen Hart and Koko B Ware)
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: mass 04 on December 12, 2009, 06:12:18 PM
One that insn't mentioned  that i really like is:
The Hollywood Blondes- I loved their feud with the Horseman and their "Flair for the Old" stuff. A good match with Douglas/Steamboat


(http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/h/hollywoodblondes/02.jpg)
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: mass 04 on December 12, 2009, 06:17:10 PM
One of the best matches i've ever seen IMO. Bret and Owen vs Steiners



Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 12, 2009, 07:36:55 PM
2 things I noticed from that Steiner's vs the Hart's match.

1. How the Steiner's were muscling the Hart's at the beginning of the match and showing them who's boss.

2. How well Scott Steiner could move and work a match. After his steroid increase and extra muscle mass he couldn't even move. He has changed so much that he doesn't even seem like the same person.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Thin Lizzy on December 13, 2009, 12:32:43 AM
One of the best matches i've ever seen IMO. Bret and Owen vs Steiners


Great find. You don't see matches like this, anymore.

In the last clip, at about the 6:45 mark, Gorilla starts going off on Pat Patterson. Absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 13, 2009, 04:47:18 AM
I remember when the Steiners first came to the Federation. Scott Steiner still has got to be the biggest suplex monster I've ever seen. This guy was throwing slams on people like I've never seen before. Then that Frankensteiner head scissor flip thing. I cannot believe that Poppa Pump fella is the same guy.





Unbelievable how awesome Scott Steiner was. Those move were so explosive and incredible, too bad he faded away and burned out.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 14, 2009, 04:54:26 AM
Great thread. I always loved the tag team divisions of the eighties. Seems like there are no tag teams anymore. My favorite was always the British Bulldogs. They were so inventive back in the day.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 14, 2009, 05:09:18 AM
Great thread. I always loved the tag team divisions of the eighties. Seems like there are no tag teams anymore. My favorite was always the British Bulldogs. They were so inventive back in the day.

Welcome back, brother.
Haven't seen you in a while - was starting to get worried.

You're 1/5 of our wrestling board!









































 ;D
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 14, 2009, 07:35:10 AM
Welcome back, brother.
Haven't seen you in a while - was starting to get worried.

You're 1/5 of our wrestling board!









































 ;D
Thanks, brother. I took a weeks vacation and just did shit around the house. Put up a shandelier and watched my horseman dvd amoungst others :)
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: mass 04 on December 14, 2009, 09:52:49 AM
Any other Quebecer fans here? Very under appreciated IMO


Great Finisher..


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48rvu_the-quebecers-vs-marty-jannetty-123_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48rvu_the-quebecers-vs-marty-jannetty-123_sport)
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 14, 2009, 11:41:16 AM
Any other Quebecer fans here? Very under appreciated IMO


Great Finisher..


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48rvu_the-quebecers-vs-marty-jannetty-123_sport (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48rvu_the-quebecers-vs-marty-jannetty-123_sport)

I am dude. Jaques Rougues and Peirre Oulette are / were very underated. They all trained under Emil Dupree's territory in the eastern provinces of Canada before heading to the WWE rings. They are all highly trained and skilled
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 14, 2009, 02:51:44 PM
Great thread. I always loved the tag team divisions of the eighties. Seems like there are no tag teams anymore. My favorite was always the British Bulldogs. They were so inventive back in the day.


Welcome back Playboy.

This is why the British Bulldogs are number 2. Their moves were so far above anything the wrestling world was doing at the time that their greatness cannot be denied. Sure, Dynamite Kid was mostly the reason for this but he blended together so good with Davey Boy that their chemistry was almost magical. Only the Road Warriors can claim to do it better than the Bulldogs.

As for today, wrestling is a funny joke. The 80's were wrestling, period.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 15, 2009, 06:06:54 AM

Welcome back Playboy.

This is why the British Bulldogs are number 2. Their moves were so far above anything the wrestling world was doing at the time that their greatness cannot be denied. Sure, Dynamite Kid was mostly the reason for this but he blended together so good with Davey Boy that their chemistry was almost magical. Only the Road Warriors can claim to do it better than the Bulldogs.

As for today, wrestling is a funny joke. The 80's were wrestling, period.
Thanks, Indie-lad.
I'll never forget the eighties tag division. I still remember freaking out when Dynamite kid superplexed a jobber for the first time. The crowed was awstruck.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 15, 2009, 06:18:56 PM
The first time I ever saw a top rope superplex was when Dynamite did it to Randy Savage at that Wrestling Challenge tournament back in 1985(?) were the Junkyard Dog won when he beat Savage in the finals. I can clearly remember as a kid saying that was so awesome that it was scary. I really got chills from it.

Like I said in the original post, Dynamite Kid was the first extreme wrestler and best in ring worker ever. Put him with Davey Boy and you have the second best tag team of all time.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 16, 2009, 04:29:21 AM
Speaking of tag teams, what do you guys think of the Hart Dynasty? David Hart Smith & Tyson Kid?  They are quite young and still have a long future ahead of them. Tyson Kid was trained by Brett Hart and David Hart Smith is just like his old man Davey Boy. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: funk51 on December 16, 2009, 11:51:13 AM
Speaking of tag teams, what do you guys think of the Hart Dynasty? David Hart Smith & Tyson Kid?  They are quite young and still have a long future ahead of them. Tyson Kid was trained by Brett Hart and David Hart Smith is just like his old man Davey Boy. Any thoughts?
             playboy , i wonder how much brett hart actually trained tyson kidd after reading the chris jericho book. jericho states that when he went to the hart dungeon for training a hart brother only showed up the first day to collect his money hung around showed him a few holds, and that was the last he saw of any hart's. he was actually trained by an employee an old man who trained him useing stu hart's book.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 16, 2009, 12:15:30 PM
             playboy , i wonder how much brett hart actually trained tyson kidd after reading the chris jericho book. jericho states that when he went to the hart dungeon for training a hart brother only showed up the first day to collect his money hung around showed him a few holds, and that was the last he saw of any hart's. he was actually trained by an employee an old man who trained him useing stu hart's book.
Regardless, he stills looks impressive in the ring.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: mass 04 on December 17, 2009, 07:26:47 PM
Still shocked The Rockers never "offically" won the titles, which shows the depth of the tag division at the time




Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: mass 04 on December 17, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
The Sheepherders in a 6 man 2/3 falls



Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 18, 2009, 05:29:32 AM
Still shocked The Rockers never "offically" won the titles, which shows the depth of the tag division at the time





What's sad about that is that they were denied because of a legitimate top rope malfunction....
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 18, 2009, 06:06:26 AM
Anyone remember the New Breed, Sean Royal and Chris Champion? They were really good and doing some innovative stuff in the ring. When I was a kid I was getting really into them but then they just faded away. I know the talent pool was just waaaay too much back then but by today's standards they would be the cream of the crop.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 18, 2009, 02:49:50 PM
Anyone remember the New Breed, Sean Royal and Chris Champion? They were really good and doing some innovative stuff in the ring. When I was a kid I was getting really into them but then they just faded away. I know the talent pool was just waaaay too much back then but by today's standards they would be the cream of the crop.
Never heard of them. What promotion were they working for?
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on December 18, 2009, 06:03:10 PM
Never heard of them. What promotion were they working for?

Don't say that Playboy!!! You should know them!!!!



Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 19, 2009, 08:10:48 AM
I'm thinking that these guys and gal are gonna become superstars in 2010. Especially if Uncle Bret comes back into Federationville

I'm sure that was a very big deciding factor in Bret returning.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 19, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
In fact, it may have played a big role in Bret’s decision to return as well as Vince’s decision to extend the invitation.

Bret would be helping out “the kids.”
Vince would be helping to solidify his future talent.
I think the old man realizes there’s a good chance that this trio is a big part – and will become an even bigger part – of the future of WWE.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 21, 2009, 04:34:11 AM
Don't say that Playboy!!! You should know them!!!!




Ok ok....now I remember. Too many vodka / orange juices on friday!  :D
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 21, 2009, 05:23:58 AM
Absolutely. I'm sold after seeing them on Smackdown the other night. I believe they are definitely the Future of the Federation. Davey Jr. and that vertical suplex is a really special thing. It'd be great if the chick started putting people int he Sharp Shooter. With Uncle Bret in town. 2010 is The Hart Dynasty.


Now, let's just hope that creative doesn't fukk this up, too.

Well...I should say Vince - he is, afterall, the one who gives final okay on that stuff.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 21, 2009, 06:44:58 AM

Now, let's just hope that creative doesn't fukk this up, too.

Well...I should say Vince - he is, afterall, the one who gives final okay on that stuff.
Exactly. Vince okay's everything at the end so he's the one to blame if the product is sour.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 21, 2009, 04:05:04 PM
I use the same logic when discussing the “death” of WCW.
Most debates are over who was more devastating to the company – Russo or Bischoff.

You can debate whose ideas were more destructive...
But in the end, the guy who should get the most blame is the one person who had the power to step in any time he wanted and say, “NO!”
That man’s name is Ted Turner.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 22, 2009, 04:40:40 AM
I use the same logic when discussing the “death” of WCW.
Most debates are over who was more devastating to the company – Russo or Bischoff.

You can debate whose ideas were more destructive...
But in the end, the guy who should get the most blame is the one person who had the power to step in any time he wanted and say, “NO!”
That man’s name is Ted Turner.

Neither Russo or Bishoff. It was their suit and tie non-wrestling bosses (higher ups) that didn't know the wrestling business that killed WCW. Russo was Vince's head writer for years in the ninties before jumping ship with Ed Farrara to WCW. Bishoff upped the ratings for 96 weeks in a row.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: G.O.A.T. on December 29, 2009, 08:57:32 PM
I always think about the Rock and Roll Express and Guerrero's feud forom the 80's. But my Fav's were Road Warrior's and the Free Bird's.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 30, 2009, 04:32:07 AM
I think one of the most under-rated teams out there was always Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard. They went together like peanut butter & chocolate. Excellent tag team.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 30, 2009, 05:30:22 AM
They operated like a well oiled machine.

Too bad Tully never got over that WWF run/departure.
He’s still pissed at Heenan over comments Bobby made on air after the Brain Busters went back to Georgia.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on December 30, 2009, 08:07:55 AM
They operated like a well oiled machine.

Too bad Tully never got over that WWF run/departure.
He’s still pissed at Heenan over comments Bobby made on air after the Brain Busters went back to Georgia.

Really? What did Bobby say? I always thought that his failure to re-appear in the NWA (JCP) was due to a failure of a drug test in the then WWF that the NWA higher ups found out about. At that time the NWA and the WWF were really the only two places to go in North America to make any real coin unless you felt like going to Japan.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on December 30, 2009, 03:33:36 PM
I always thought the pair left WWF due to dissatisfaction over pay.
I'm not sure about the drug test issue, although it wouldn't surprise me - at least concerning Tully.
Regardless...

Bobby ran into Blanchard at a Cauliflower Alley banquet (or something) several years back.
He happily approached Tully and asked how his Dad Joe was doing.
Tully fired back, “Why don’t you ask him yourself?”

Bobby asked him what the heck was the matter.
Tully said, “You badmouthed the Brain Busters on WWF TV after we left.”

Bobby tried to explain how the fed had to give a reason for Arn’s & his departure.
Vince (or Pat) told Bobby to mention in his following week’s promo that the Brain Busters were too hard to do business with & he had to let them go.

That was it.
And Tully was pissed over that – a work – as if it had somehow buried his character & storied career.
I doubt that most fans so much as gave it a second thought, and other promoters & bookers would have known it was a work.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on January 04, 2010, 05:00:37 AM
I always thought the pair left WWF due to dissatisfaction over pay.
I'm not sure about the drug test issue, although it wouldn't surprise me - at least concerning Tully.
Regardless...

Bobby ran into Blanchard at a Cauliflower Alley banquet (or something) several years back.
He happily approached Tully and asked how his Dad Joe was doing.
Tully fired back, “Why don’t you ask him yourself?”

Bobby asked him what the heck was the matter.
Tully said, “You badmouthed the Brain Busters on WWF TV after we left.”

Bobby tried to explain how the fed had to give a reason for Arn’s & his departure.
Vince (or Pat) told Bobby to mention in his following week’s promo that the Brain Busters were too hard to do business with & he had to let them go.

That was it.
And Tully was pissed over that – a work – as if it had somehow buried his character & storied career.
I doubt that most fans so much as gave it a second thought, and other promoters & bookers would have known it was a work.

According to the Four Horsemen DVD, Arn & Tully left NWA over a pay dispute. Their WWE departure was due to them wanting to go back to reform the Four Horsemen in the NWA. But Tully got nailed for a failed drug test. He got high on coke and got burnt. NWA higher ups found out about this failed drug test and didn't rehire Tully.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 05, 2010, 12:37:45 PM
Vampiro and Sting matched up well as a team.  Didn't last.
New Breed was awesome, that cast with the Xmas lights was hilarious.
Midnight Express had great moves.  Like the Divorce Court shoulder breaker, Gravedigger top rope front belly to belly suplex and then the Double Goozle or whatever it was called.
Powers of Pain had potential.  WWF wasted it.
Garvin and Hayes was awesome
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on January 05, 2010, 12:52:34 PM
Powers of Pain had potential.  WWF wasted it.

I saw POP at a WWF house show in Baltimore right before they made their televised debut.
The crowd reaction was mediocre, but decent considering most people had no clue who they were.

I think Barb & Warlord would have gone over better if Demolition hadn't been around at the same time (not to mention one of the top tag teams).
Road Warriors/LOD was its own entity, but Powers of Pain would always be overshadowed by Demo.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on January 05, 2010, 01:16:32 PM
I saw POP at a WWF house show in Baltimore right before they made their televised debut.
The crowd reaction was mediocre, but decent considering most people had no clue who they were.

I think Barb & Warlord would have gone over better if Demolition hadn't been around at the same time (not to mention one of the top tag teams).
Road Warriors/LOD was its own entity, but Powers of Pain would always be overshadowed by Demo.

I saw them in a house show here in toronto back in 1988 against the Rockers. They were huge but again, not really a pop and they were pretty stiff in the ring. Kicks and forearm smashes. That's all. As singles I think they were really wasted. With good managers, they could have been great heels.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on January 05, 2010, 02:10:24 PM
I saw them in a house show here in toronto back in 1988 against the Rockers. They were huge but again, not really a pop and they were pretty stiff in the ring. Kicks and forearm smashes. That's all. As singles I think they were really wasted. With good managers, they could have been great heels.

The reason why was because the Road Warriors were so over that no one was buying into them. They were second rate and Vince knew it. Once he got the Road Warriors he disbanded the POP and made them singles wrestlers because there was no need for them to be around. Just another reason why the Road Warriors are the greatest ever.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on January 06, 2010, 04:51:45 AM
The reason why was because the Road Warriors were so over that no one was buying into them. They were second rate and Vince knew it. Once he got the Road Warriors he disbanded the POP and made them singles wrestlers because there was no need for them to be around. Just another reason why the Road Warriors are the greatest ever.
I agree with you indielad. To this day I think Vince brought the Powers of Pain in just to really put Demolition over. It worked. I really enjoyed the original Demolition tag team of Ax & Smash in the then WWF. But the Road Warriors are tops when it comes to tag teams. Their fan bas was HUGE.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Montague on January 06, 2010, 08:01:33 AM
None of us will ever see another tag team like the RW's.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on January 06, 2010, 05:42:14 PM
I agree with you indielad. To this day I think Vince brought the Powers of Pain in just to really put Demolition over. It worked. I really enjoyed the original Demolition tag team of Ax & Smash in the then WWF. But the Road Warriors are tops when it comes to tag teams. Their fan bas was HUGE.

The POP were feuding with the RW's in the NWA before they came to the WWF. They were released by the NWA because they were suppose to face and lose to the Road Warrior's in a series of scaffold matches. After that Vince picked them up and they feuded with Demolition. And I agree with you Playboy because the POP never won the tag team titles, they just put Demolition more over. To ensure Vince's quest to get the RW's. You have to remember that Vince was trying to get the RW's since the early 80's and he didn't achieve this until the early 90's. The Warriors always knew their worth (due to Paul Ellering's knowledge and leadership) and they made millions going all over the world and cementing their legacy and dominating all of wrestling.

Another reason why Paul Ellering is one of the top 10 mangers of all time!!!
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on January 07, 2010, 06:24:57 AM
The POP were feuding with the RW's in the NWA before they came to the WWF. They were released by the NWA because they were suppose to face and lose to the Road Warrior's in a series of scaffold matches. After that Vince picked them up and they feuded with Demolition. And I agree with you Playboy because the POP never won the tag team titles, they just put Demolition more over. To ensure Vince's quest to get the RW's. You have to remember that Vince was trying to get the RW's since the early 80's and he didn't achieve this until the early 90's. The Warriors always knew their worth (due to Paul Ellering's knowledge and leadership) and they made millions going all over the world and cementing their legacy and dominating all of wrestling.

Another reason why Paul Ellering is one of the top 10 mangers of all time!!!
Bullseye. I've been saying it since this forum started. WWE is NOT the only place to make money in wrestling. There are lots of places in the world to wrestle. And guys like the RW can comman an easy 10,000 dollar appearence on any indy circuit.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: indie-lad on January 26, 2010, 04:53:48 PM
Paul Ellering knew the Road Warriors were gold and even Vince couldn't use his money/power to get them. The Road Warriors are also the blueprint for good business in the wrestling world. Not many wrestlers had someone like Ellering around to lead them which is why so many fall into the WWF ashtray or wrestling obscurity. Ellering is the heart and soul of the Legion of Doom and either Hawk or Animal would tell you the same.
Title: Re: Most revolutionary tag teams of all time!!!
Post by: Playboy on January 27, 2010, 05:16:29 AM
Paul Ellering knew the Road Warriors were gold and even Vince couldn't use his money/power to get them. The Road Warriors are also the blueprint for good business in the wrestling world. Not many wrestlers had someone like Ellering around to lead them which is why so many fall into the WWF ashtray or wrestling obscurity. Ellering is the heart and soul of the Legion of Doom and either Hawk or Animal would tell you the same.
They actually praise Ellering and confirm exactly what you said on the Road Warriors dvd.