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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Nether Animal on January 27, 2018, 08:01:48 AM
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Not bad post-accident.
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Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.
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Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.
Nobody did. But Flex should have done his homework. As he got older, he kinda had Sergio Oliva look to him.
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Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.
Wheeler was quoted as advising Ronnie to get serious about his drug use.
foot in mouth of peace...
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Wheeler was quoted as advising Ronnie to get serious about his drug use.
foot in mouth of peace...
I remember a few years ago Ronnie said that when he found out that Flex was using lots of “Vitamin G” (presumably Growth Hormone), he followed suit, and won the Olympia.
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That was a couple weeks before his best condition ever at the Arnold.
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Flex actually had a Grainy look to his physique. It's probably the only time I can remember him looking like that.
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I still think that the 1993 Arnold was his best ever. He looked his best in the 216-218 range
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this is his best and most complete look and it would beat heath
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His rear latspread looked pretty good too.
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I still think that the 1993 Arnold was his best ever. He looked his best in the 216-218 range
Exactly. Dry as hell too! He looked a bit water logged in 1998.
'93 Arnold...
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too small in 93 to do any damage after 95
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Resulting from Yates’ retirement, Wheeler thought that 1998 was his year. He didn’t anticipate Ronnie owning everyone.
Many thought 1998 was their year after Dorian retired. Guys like Levrone, Ray, El Sonbaty, Wheeler, etc. No one predicted Coleman would win. People would have put Cormier or Dillet over Coleman at that point.
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Exactly. Dry as hell too! He looked a bit water logged in 1998.
'93 Arnold...
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incredible dry.clean look'lines'looks like muscle wrapped to bone,and 'naturally'lol filled muscle 'water/carb'peak look,after 96-up he was just cartoonish filled delts/arms that looked full relaxed and lost all sharpness/detail..
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he's huge
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Was this before or after the ninjas?
J
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his best look was 93, he never got his hamstrings glutes dry again as he went up in weight
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Was this before or after the ninjas?
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After.
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Exactly. Dry as hell too! He looked a bit water logged in 1998.
'93 Arnold...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=626985.0;attach=715519;image)
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Did anyone caliper him prior to this event? Was the measurement any kind of record? I wonder if Billy Smith was involved and if it might have taken place at a Gold's, maybe even at the Venice Gold's. Somebody please help me answer these burning questions.
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Exactly. Dry as hell too! He looked a bit water logged in 1998.
'93 Arnold...
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His kidneys took the punch that year .
WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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uncrowned Mr Olympia
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uncrowned Mr Olympia
'93 or '98?
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this is his best and most complete look and it would beat heath
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Are you sure about that, Earl? Both of us prefer Kev's physique to Ronnie's, but I always thought of you as someone who understood why Ronnie won - even if you disagree with some of those wins. I don't think you are under the impression that Kev should have 6-9 Sandows, even though you think his physique is "better" [for all intents and purposes, aside from the Olympia stage] than the physiques of either Ronnie or Dorian.
Likewise, Flex Wheeler's shape and aesthetics were amazing - as he was a literal cartoon character come to life - but do you really feel that he had the muscularity, hardness, and overall conditioning necessary to beat Heath in any of his seven Mr. Olympia wins? I would say that Phil is harder, leaner/more conditioned, as well as having more mass on his frame. Flex was something like 5'11 and 220-lb, whereas Phil is, what, 250-lb at 5'9? That is a considerable advantage in overall level of muscle mass for Phil, despite not being as shapely as Flex - and it's not like Phil is a slouch in the shape and roundness department either, despite having narrow clavicles [something which I think is amplified by his larger than average head size], and - of course - not being as shapely as Flex, as said above.
PS - while I have always understood the comments that Phil is narrow by pro bodybuilding or Mr. Olympia standards [despite his head size not often being mentioned as a contributing factor], I have never understood why people say that Kev was narrow. On that note, I think part of the reason why Flex Wheeler looked wide was for the same reason why Phil looked a bit more narrow than he likely actually is - head size. In the case of Flex Wheeler, I think his head is small, and makes him look wider. Orville Burke definitely had a small head which made him look wide.
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uncrowned Mr Olympia
Pats suck.
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Flex
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Did anyone caliper him prior to this event? Was the measurement any kind of record? I wonder if Billy Smith was involved and if it might have taken place at a Gold's, maybe even at the Venice Gold's. Somebody please help me answer these burning questions.
hahahahaha!
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His abs got worse as he got older.
Lower lats had a weird look to them.
Lazy.
Wouldn't do deadlifts so no quality X-Mas tree, no deep lumbar definition, fat ass and weak hams most of the time.
Oh, and the calves are faker than fake.
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His abs got worse as he got older.
Lower lats had a weird look to them.
Lazy.
Wouldn't do deadlifts so no quality X-Mas tree, no deep lumbar definition, fat ass and weak hams most of the time.
Oh, and the calves are faker than fake.
He had a quality X-Mas tree. Always did. He wouldn't do heavy bent over barbell rows. And since he broke his neck, squats were out of the question. Questionable calves in his later competitive years.
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Better than Heath.
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Everyone is better than Heath.
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Flex was ridiculous in those photos,very ruhlesque.Looked incredible to me.flex and Marcus are two guys I think should have won an Olympia on freakiness alone.
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He was even better 2 weeks later at the Arnold. Start at 15:32
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He was even better 2 weeks later at the Arnold. Start at 15:32
Damn,never seen that.he looks amazing.
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Did anyone caliper him prior to this event? Was the measurement any kind of record? I wonder if Billy Smith was involved and if it might have taken place at a Gold's, maybe even at the Venice Gold's. Somebody please help me answer these burning questions.
You nailed it. ;D I wonder if Jim Quinn was involved? ???
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Are you sure about that, Earl? Both of us prefer Kev's physique to Ronnie's, but I always thought of you as someone who understood why Ronnie won - even if you disagree with some of those wins. I don't think you are under the impression that Kev should have 6-9 Sandows, even though you think his physique is "better" [for all intents and purposes, aside from the Olympia stage] than the physiques of either Ronnie or Dorian.
Likewise, Flex Wheeler's shape and aesthetics were amazing - as he was a literal cartoon character come to life - but do you really feel that he had the muscularity, hardness, and overall conditioning necessary to beat Heath in any of his seven Mr. Olympia wins? I would say that Phil is harder, leaner/more conditioned, as well as having more mass on his frame. Flex was something like 5'11 and 220-lb, whereas Phil is, what, 250-lb at 5'9? That is a considerable advantage in overall level of muscle mass for Phil, despite not being as shapely as Flex - and it's not like Phil is a slouch in the shape and roundness department either, despite having narrow clavicles [something which I think is amplified by his larger than average head size], and - of course - not being as shapely as Flex, as said above.
PS - while I have always understood the comments that Phil is narrow by pro bodybuilding or Mr. Olympia standards [despite his head size not often being mentioned as a contributing factor], I have never understood why people say that Kev was narrow. On that note, I think part of the reason why Flex Wheeler looked wide was for the same reason why Phil looked a bit more narrow than he likely actually is - head size. In the case of Flex Wheeler, I think his head is small, and makes him look wider. Orville Burke definitely had a small head which made him look wide.
flex weighed way more than 220 in those pics, i'm not saying the 93 version that everybody overrates would beat phil, the late 90's ironman version of flex would win
phil is a small looking 250 if that's what he weighs and how much of that is in his gut?
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Everyone is better than Heath.
Branch warren is better than Phil
Branch should have been mr O at least one time
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'93 or '98?
93
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Flex
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Middleweight torso chest with heavy weight arms
A true ecto he is
With no steroids and no training this is a 5’10 skinny 150/155 pound guy max
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'93 or '98?
With Gynecomastia that looked fucking horrible, Ronnie still thinks his best look was 1998, probably his worst year and lightest @ 248lbs.
FLEX LOOKED BETTER IN 1998 AND EVEN BETTER 1N 1999, BUT AT LEAST RONNIE FIXED THE GYNO NIPPLE.
I GUEST CHAD GOT HIM SOME ARIMIDEX TABS SO HE COULD REPEAT WITHOUT A BITCH TIT.
FLEX UNCROWNED 1998-99...END OF SUBJECT.
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Middleweight torso chest with heavy weight arms
That's not Heath...
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In my opinion, his hands on hips most muscular from that contest is still on of the best bbing pics of all time.
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He was even better 2 weeks later at the Arnold. Start at 15:32
The poor man's Shawn Ray, Jeff "Box" Long" was in that as well.
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ye and he took enough roids and shit to fry both of his kidneys
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You nailed it. ;D I wonder if Jim Quinn was involved? ???
Perhaps in a reporting capacity, could have even been a Mr. O telecast. Sources tell me all of these events went down in '93. What a year!
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I still think that the 1993 Arnold was his best ever. He looked his best in the 216-218 range
This. In those 98 pics, his arms and delts are already oil-filled and it makes his torso look « Heath-esque ».
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Did anyone caliper him prior to this event? Was the measurement any kind of record? I wonder if Billy Smith was involved and if it might have taken place at a Gold's, maybe even at the Venice Gold's. Somebody please help me answer these burning questions.
I thought it was Jim Quinn. Either way, it was 0.0%...
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I thought it was Jim Quinn. Either way, it was 0.0%...
That’s a lie. The truth is that his BF was minus something.
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Nether Animal desperately logging into his different accounts to bump his 6 months old thread. Gotta keep his schmoe shit alive ::)
Soon he will be posting more Anti-Trump crap with his Dearth account.
...Then he’ll login as BSN or Gregz to post gifs
...Then El Diablo Blanco to ask about STD’s
... then JAGO
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Not bad post-accident.
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Holding too much water, not to mention oil.
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great thread -
what get big is about
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great thread -
what get big is about
Agreed.
And the trannies of course... ;)
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Holding too much water, not to mention oil.
Front db bi shot looks facially and oil Wise Ernie taylor
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Didn't want to work to slowly gain quality mass after 1993.
He'd still win everything but the Olympia while biding his time.
With enough quality size, he could of jumped in in 97 or 98 and won the thing.
Should have listened to Charles Glass more than Chad Nichols.
Calves are implants, like Ferrigno.
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he still looked good in 96 where he won the NOC and beat Ronnie a few times.
but by 98 he seemed a little puffy
in 93 he was amazing. if he had more lats and a little more pecs he would have easily been the greatest ever in that shape.
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Everyone is better than Heath.
Branch Warren is better than heath
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Didn't want to work to slowly gain quality mass after 1993.
He'd still win everything but the Olympia while biding his time.
With enough quality size, he could of jumped in in 97 or 98 and won the thing.
Should have listened to Charles Glass more than Chad Nichols.
Calves are implants, like Ferrigno.
interesting..he gained too much muscle too fast and lost his conditioning?
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uncrowned Mr Olympia
Uncrowned master of synthol- illusion, more likely..
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interesting..he gained too much muscle too fast and lost his conditioning?
That's a good way to put it.
Obliques started to grow too much and hurt his taper.
Couldn't get his calves to grow.
Decided to synthol his arms rather than work for new mass.
Knew his lower lumbar/erector spinae was weak along with hams, but did nothing to resolve it.
Kind of a puff. Not as bad as Dillet, but bad enough.
Little work ethic. Easily distracted.
Certainly no Yates or Haney-like discipline.
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Hung with Dorian at the 1998 O.
The man was SO relaxed. Could tell he was relieved to not again be engaging in thong battle.
Flex never was better than during his first few pro wins in ‘93.
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Hung with Dorian at the 1998 O.
The man was SO relaxed. Could tell he was relieved to not again be engaging in thong battle.
Flex never was better than during his first few pro wins in ‘93.
My thoughts exactly
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Hung with Dorian at the 1998 O.
Flex never was better than during his first few pro wins in ‘93.
would agree
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That's a good way to put it.
Obliques started to grow too much and hurt his taper.
Couldn't get his calves to grow.
Decided to synthol his arms rather than work for new mass.
Knew his lower lumbar/erector spinae was weak along with hams, but did nothing to resolve it.
Kind of a puff. Not as bad as Dillet, but bad enough.
Little work ethic. Easily distracted.
Certainly no Yates or Haney-like discipline.
Car accident screwed his mind up.