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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: #1 Klaus fan on July 25, 2009, 03:07:13 PM
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criticize this great sport? ;D Of course you can like it but if you can't see anything wrong with it then you are delusional. :-\ For example, why get mad if somebody says "man in a thong" or "drug abuser" or "bodybuilders have self-esteem problems", those are or might be atleast in some way true. :D
Me not understand. Why people have trouble with facts?
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I think it just gets tiresome
"not athletes", "gay", "all shrugs"
we get it. thanks
(http://www.bodybuildinglive.com/seriousaboutmuscle/publisherspage/pics/200610_jackson_300w.jpg)
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I think it just gets tiresome
"not athletes", "gay", "all shrugs"
we get it. thanks
(http://www.bodybuildinglive.com/seriousaboutmuscle/publisherspage/pics/200610_jackson_300w.jpg)
I understand. That's a good point.
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I think it just gets tiresome
"not athletes", "gay", "all shrugs"
we get it. thanks
(http://www.bodybuildinglive.com/seriousaboutmuscle/publisherspage/pics/200610_jackson_300w.jpg)
lol, can someone post the pic of JJ in his "white singlet" dancing for his dinner?
according to Chick "it is only gay if you want it to be" ::)
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lol, can someone post the pic of JJ in his "white singlet" dancing for his dinner?
according to Chick "it is only gay if you want it to be" ::)
"Sport" or not... whatever you want to call it, making a hobby out of admiring another man's nearly naked body is gay. So, too, is pumping up your body so you can show it off to other men. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :D
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criticize this great sport? ;D Of course you can like it but if you can't see anything wrong with it then you are delusional. :-\ For example, why get mad if somebody says "man in a thong" or "drug abuser" or "bodybuilders have self-esteem problems", those are or might be atleast in some way true. :D
Me not understand. Why people have trouble with facts?
I think people become uncomfortable when we call attention to something that is true but that they have been ignoring or denying, and the natural reaction is hostility.
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I think we get tired of the same old questions/observations
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lol, can someone post the pic of JJ in his "white singlet" dancing for his dinner?
according to Chick "it is only gay if you want it to be" ::)
According to Chick drugs are only the finishing touch.
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anybody with two eyes can see there are many problems with bodybuilding today, if you think they have self esteem or drug problems fine but why post here if you think the whole thing is gay
it just doesn't make sense to spend a large portion of your life on a bodybuilding forum when you think the sport is nothing more than gay men in thongs, unless you are gay
why post so much on a forum when your feelings are so negative towards the main topic, which is pro bodybuilding
i think men doing ballet is gay men in tights, that's just one reason i don't post on ballet forums
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anybody with two eyes can see there are many problems with bodybuilding today, if you think they have self esteem or drug problems fine but why post here if you think the whole thing is gay
it just doesn't make sense to spend a large portion of your life on a bodybuilding forum when you think the sport is nothing more than gay men in thongs, unless you are gay
why post so much on a forum when your feelings are so negative towards the main topic, which is pro bodybuilding
i think men doing ballet is gay men in tights, that's just one reason i don't post on ballet forums
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It's been said many times before, Earl, but just in case you have short-term memory loss:
1) "Bodybuilding" is not just oiled men in thongs on a stage. It is also tons of people who lift and diet for health, self-improvment, vanity, or just because they enjoy it. Most of those people have no interest in geting anywhere near a "bodybuilding stage" as either a competitor or a spectator, but they still enjoy conversation with like-minded people.
2) This site is highly entertaining, and at least part of the entertainment involves poking fun at the trainwreck that is pro bodybuilding today.
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Men in thongs = serious business
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I dear say, the sight of a man's greasy anus doth raise the alarm bells for common folk.
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It's been said many times before, Earl, but just in case you have short-term memory loss:
1) "Bodybuilding" is not just oiled men in thongs on a stage. It is also tons of people who lift and diet for health, self-improvment, vanity, or just because they enjoy it. Most of those people have no interest in geting anywhere near a "bodybuilding stage" as either a competitor or a spectator, but they still enjoy conversation with like-minded people.
2) This site is highly entertaining, and at least part of the entertainment involves poking fun at the trainwreck that is pro bodybuilding today.
Quoted in the vain hope of skull-penetrating truth.
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"Sport" or not... whatever you want to call it, making a hobby out of admiring another man's nearly naked body is gay. So, too, is pumping up your body so you can show it off to other men. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :D
Amen. Say what you want, but the majority of the crowd at bbing pageants are overwhelmingly made up of men. Whereas at a bikini contest, the same holds true, but the men are there to check out semi-nude women......now what are the men checking out at a bbing show? thought so..... :-\
(Cue angry schmoes in denial....)
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"Sport" or not... whatever you want to call it, making a hobby out of admiring another man's nearly naked body is gay. So, too, is pumping up your body so you can show it off to other men. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :D
Ok gay whatever makes you feel less like a fucking weirdo.
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"Sport" or not... whatever you want to call it, making a hobby out of admiring another man's nearly naked body is gay. So, too, is pumping up your body so you can show it off to other men. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :D
Yes, and people who go to dog shows or zoos or circuses to "admire" animals and their bodies / antics are all into bestiality, right? Believe it or not, not every guy out there who is into bodybuilding, lives to eat and swallow dick, you imbecile.
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Amen. Say what you want, but the majority of the crowd at bbing pageants are overwhelmingly made up of men. Whereas at a bikini contest, the same holds true, but the men are there to check out semi-nude women......now what are the men checking out at a bbing show? thought so..... :-\
(Cue angry schmoes in denial....)
ok Bay.......
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Sport. LOL.
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It's been said many times before, Earl, but just in case you have short-term memory loss:
1) "Bodybuilding" is not just oiled men in thongs on a stage. It is also tons of people who lift and diet for health, self-improvment, vanity, or just because they enjoy it. Most of those people have no interest in geting anywhere near a "bodybuilding stage" as either a competitor or a spectator, but they still enjoy conversation with like-minded people.
2) This site is highly entertaining, and at least part of the entertainment involves poking fun at the trainwreck that is pro bodybuilding today.
nobody came here for any of the things you listed, that's what bodybuilding.com is for
getbig's is a pro bodybuilding forum
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Amen. Say what you want, but the majority of the crowd at bbing pageants are overwhelmingly made up of men. Whereas at a bikini contest, the same holds true, but the men are there to check out semi-nude women......now what are the men checking out at a bbing show? thought so..... :-\
(Cue angry schmoes in denial....)
name one sport where the audience isn't overwhelmingly made up of men
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nobody came here for any of the things you listed, that's what bodybuilding.com is for
Really? When I first came to getbig it was to find information on bodybuilding nutrition. I learned a lot and stayed for the laughs. I couldn't give a shit about pro bodybuilding.
getbig's is a pro bodybuilding forum
Funniest thing you've said in a while, Earl. ;D
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i love to train but never understood how one can be a fan of bodybuilding, certainly not someone who doesnt train.
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It's been said many times before, Earl, but just in case you have short-term memory loss:
1) "Bodybuilding" is not just oiled men in thongs on a stage. It is also tons of people who lift and diet for health, self-improvment, vanity, or just because they enjoy it. Most of those people have no interest in geting anywhere near a "bodybuilding stage" as either a competitor or a spectator, but they still enjoy conversation with like-minded people.
2) This site is highly entertaining, and at least part of the entertainment involves poking fun at the trainwreck that is pro bodybuilding today.
this site is actually the best thing on internet for last few years when it comes to bodybuilding and reality and entertainment in relashion to bodybuilding and in general,,
straight out this is number 1 site on the internet when it comes to weight lifting,,im not aware of any other site where all the professional read and many participate even if on gimmik still not aware of any site where the all ifbb read like this site
the only problem with this site is that women are scated to write ,,they read but very scared to write because its very harsh ,, then again some of them write with no problem like mike arvilas girl and few more,,many more read
this is the style of this board,,harsh and put you in your place very fast,,which is what attracts everyone here
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"Sport" or not... whatever you want to call it, making a hobby out of admiring another man's nearly naked body is gay. So, too, is pumping up your body so you can show it off to other men. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :D
Actually, being sexually attracted to a male if you are a male makes one gay. Thanks for playing...now go get some vagina homo. ::)
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name one sport where the audience isn't overwhelmingly made up of men
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You missed the point (again). Most Sports' (not male pageants) spectators are men. True. Let me explain this to you again....Bikini comp. or pageant, crowd made up of straight men = straight entertainment. Men in thong pageants, crowd made up of men = gay entertainment. Nothing wrong with gays watching men strut and dance for them, it's just the way it is.
And you can't compare a real Sport, to a bbing pageant. One is usually made up of Athletes, performing athletic feats (tackling, running, sprinting, dunking, jumping, throwing, et cetera). The other is muscular oiled up men, flexing and dancing. Nothing athletic about it.
Remove your blinders already......
Going to a bbing pageant, is the same as going to a Chippendale's show. The difference is, The Chippendale's are smart enough to get paid for their showing. To many of you, I'm sure you'd be fine going to a Chippendale's show, all while telling yourself, "I'm not gay, I'm just checking out the physiques". ::)
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back in the 90'sss my parents used to think i was gay because i was reading Flex magazine.
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It's been said many times before, Earl, but just in case you have short-term memory loss:
1) "Bodybuilding" is not just oiled men in thongs on a stage. It is also tons of people who lift and diet for health, self-improvment, vanity, or just because they enjoy it. Most of those people have no interest in geting anywhere near a "bodybuilding stage" as either a competitor or a spectator, but they still enjoy conversation with like-minded people.
2) This site is highly entertaining, and at least part of the entertainment involves poking fun at the trainwreck that is pro bodybuilding today.
if bbing was right getbig wouldn't exist.
getbig is a symptom of modern bbing.
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back in the 90'sss my parents used to think i was gay because i was reading Flex magazine.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least for a while there, they'd have some nice bikini pictorials of Fitness chicks.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At least for a while there, they'd have some nice bikini pictorials of Fitness chicks.
and also because my training partner called "jacques edouard" looked like and speak like a sissy and also because he was 10 years older than me.
parents are incredible.
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You missed the point (again). Most Sports' (not male pageants) spectators are men. True. Let me explain this to you again....Bikini comp. or pageant, crowd made up of straight men = straight entertainment. Men in thong pageants, crowd made up of men = gay entertainment. Nothing wrong with gays watching men strut and dance for them, it's just the way it is.
And you can't compare a real Sport, to a bbing pageant. One is usually made up of Athletes, performing athletic feats (tackling, running, sprinting, dunking, jumping, throwing, et cetera). The other is muscular oiled up men, flexing and dancing. Nothing athletic about it.
Remove your blinders already......
Going to a bbing pageant, is the same as going to a Chippendale's show. The difference is, The Chippendale's are smart enough to get paid for their showing. To many of you, I'm sure you'd be fine going to a Chippendale's show, all while telling yourself, "I'm not gay, I'm just checking out the physiques". ::)
So using your logic all the women spectating at a bikini comp or pagent must be gay then too?
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BB is highly gay folks.....just own it and indulge privately.
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As Goatboy elegantly pointed out, there are far more people that participate in "bodybuilding" than any other physical activity/sport. The fact that its pinnacle, the Mr O is now in a plight of implosion goes to show how much of a train wreck pro bb is.
In comparison to any football sport, it would be as if 2 people attended the Superbowl/World Cup final despite playing as an amateur.
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criticize this great sport? ;D Of course you can like it but if you can't see anything wrong with it then you are delusional. :-\ For example, why get mad if somebody says "man in a thong" or "drug abuser" or "bodybuilders have self-esteem problems", those are or might be atleast in some way true. :D
Me not understand. Why people have trouble with facts?
I never got more hate mail on getbig than when I posted these facts... ;D
Let's go over this one more time...
BB is gay because:
• it is predicated entirely on looks--not physical prowess.
• the public face of the sport is scantily clad men posing and flexing for an audience of cheering men.
• competitors often have erections on stage.
• over the years, posing trunks have become smaller and smaller. Glutes used to be covered up. Now, we have competitors hiking up their trunks and showing off their shredded bums.
• more than once, cocks and balls have popped out of their small trunks and amidst all the cheering (ostensibly over muscle) everyone pretends not to notice.
• the “dark” side of the sport consists of competitors making lusty videos for gay audiences, escorting and/or “private posing” for male fans and judges. Every competitor knows someone who does this but no one ever talks about it because in their mutual fear of discovery lies mutual safety.
• I have seen guys (surreptitiously) masturbating in the audience during the posedown.
• Who do you think buys all those videos from http://www.repetrope.com/men/ http://musclegallery.com/ http://usamuscle.com/ http://www.muscleweb.com/ http://vistavideo.com/
and all the rest? Women? Um, no.
• If you look closely enough at his website, almost every bodybuilder you can name offers some version of private posing, very “personal” training, web cam sessions, or selling used articles of his clothing. Again, who do you think buys this stuff?
• the ultimate winner in bodybuilding walks away with the Sandow statuette--the statue of a gay man. Eugene Sandow (long considered to have the perfect proportions of classical Greek and Roman sculpture) dumped his wife and toured the country posing and flexing with his piano playing boyfriend in tow. The two eventually set up house together in NYC. http://www.sandowmuseum.com/sandowlife.html
• The godfathers of body building: Eugene Sandow, Joe Gold, Joe Weider. Now, what do they all have in common?
• the most popular body building gym franchise is Gold's Gym, founded by Joe Gold (he also founded World Gym). Yep, Joe Gold was gay.
Class dismissed. :D
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I never got more hate mail on getbig than when I posted these facts... ;D
BAY I think you are Spot ON - Seems hard to take truth for these guys ;)
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I'm not going to encourage my sons to put up posters of anything on their walls, but if I walk in their rooms when they're 16 and see posters of hot ladies in skimpy outfits I'm gonna breathe a sigh of relief. If I see posters of the top 10 from the Olympia.....I'm gonna worry.
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"• I have seen guys (surreptitiously) masturbating in the audience during the posedown."
omg :-\
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I'm not going to encourage my sons to put up posters of anything on their walls, but if I walk in their rooms when they're 16 and see posters of hot ladies in skimpy outfits I'm gonna breathe a sigh of relief. If I see posters of the top 10 from the Olympia.....I'm gonna worry.
Damn Steel another grest post :)
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Yes, and people who go to dog shows or zoos or circuses to "admire" animals and their bodies / antics are all into bestiality, right? Believe it or not, not every guy out there who is into bodybuilding, lives to eat and swallow dick, you imbecile.
lol.......the Great Kiwi, always find the right words to say. well put
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I never got more hate mail on getbig than when I posted these facts... ;D
Somebody sure felt the hammer. :D
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GayGBM was the one in the audience beating up his monkey
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I'm not going to encourage my sons to put up posters of anything on their walls, but if I walk in their rooms when they're 16 and see posters of hot ladies in skimpy outfits I'm gonna breathe a sigh of relief. If I see posters of the top 10 from the Olympia.....I'm gonna worry.
lol ;D
i remember at my old apartment i used to have a poster of ronnie and arnold,, when people looked at the arnold one they were like ''that dudes jacked'' then when they looked at the ronnie one they would call me a fag for having that on my wall.. i had to take ronnie down..
call me a homophobe or whatever you want,,but you wont catch me watching too many bodybuilding shows. dudes twirling around in thongs is not something i want to look at. i like watching them train, but striated glutes is not my thing. with the bigger posing trunks they used to wear, it makes bodybuilding look like an artform.. when you have a thong wedged up your asshole is more like gay porno.
Maybe you just feel this way because your friend told you they think it's gay seeing Ronnie on the wall. Why did you put the poster up in the first place if you thought it was gay? ;)
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You are a hypocrite and a coward to boot.
You obviously had no problem with the Coleman poster when you went to the trouble of obtaining it and hung it on your wall. Day after day you looked at it and obviously admired it. Only after your guests called you a fag did you decide that you “had to take Ronnie down.”
I’m sure you will still watch body building shows/videos; you just won’t do it in front of your friends.
I suggest you save up your allowance and go buy a backbone when you have enough money. Better yet, track down your guests and ask them if you can have your manhood back; they obviously took it with them when they left. :-[
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I never got more hate mail on getbig than when I posted these facts... ;D
WTF here other than maybe other gays would take the advice and words of a flammer like yourself to heart or as fact? By your nature you are very confused.
It's like Liberace talking about women.... has no clue.
Most Gay guys where made to feel inadequate by a woman somewhere along the line. Be it Mommy or elsewhere during childhood, hence the non attraction/fear.
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WTF here other than maybe other gays would take the advice and words of a flammer like yourself to heart or as fact? By your nature you are very confused.
It's like Liberace talking about women.... has no clue.
Most Gay guys where made to feel inadequate by a woman somewhere along the line. Be it Mommy or elsewhere during childhood, hence the non attraction/fear.
maybe he's speaking out for his Gay audience ???
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"Sport" or not... whatever you want to call it, making a hobby out of admiring another man's nearly naked body is gay. So, too, is pumping up your body so you can show it off to other men. Not that there is anything wrong with that. :D
there is nothing wrong with that..it's because YOU want there to be something wrong with it....just like Bob says
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name one sport where the audience isn't overwhelmingly made up of men
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exactly...men have always admired other men for their bodies and what their bodies can do.....if Michael Jordan walked into a room watch all the guys go nuts and run up to him so that they can get an autograph and be around him and ask him questions....we secretly would wish we were him because of the amazing things he can do with his body.....we men respect that.....and the hard work that went into being able to do that.....it's not gay.....no one would want to have sex with Michael Jordan or Brett Farve....unles you are truly gay....you could call it somewhat Homo-erotic because we are worshipping other men....but it is a RESPECTFUL worship not a "pull your pants down" kind of worship
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Really? When I first came to getbig it was to find information on bodybuilding nutrition. I learned a lot and stayed for the laughs. I couldn't give a shit about pro bodybuilding.
Funniest thing you've said in a while, Earl. ;D
you care enough to watch the live show webcasts broadcasted on saturday nights
you also posted on mayhem which is 100% pro bodybuilding forum
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You missed the point (again). Most Sports' (not male pageants) spectators are men. True. Let me explain this to you again....Bikini comp. or pageant, crowd made up of straight men = straight entertainment. Men in thong pageants, crowd made up of men = gay entertainment. Nothing wrong with gays watching men strut and dance for them, it's just the way it is.
And you can't compare a real Sport, to a bbing pageant. One is usually made up of Athletes, performing athletic feats (tackling, running, sprinting, dunking, jumping, throwing, et cetera). The other is muscular oiled up men, flexing and dancing. Nothing athletic about it.
Remove your blinders already......
Going to a bbing pageant, is the same as going to a Chippendale's show. The difference is, The Chippendale's are smart enough to get paid for their showing. To many of you, I'm sure you'd be fine going to a Chippendale's show, all while telling yourself, "I'm not gay, I'm just checking out the physiques". ::)
then why are you here on a "gay forum"?
why do you watch the webcasts?
i've never been to a chippendale's show so i can't tell you much about them, i assume they show their genitals and i'm not aware of there being any sort of competition
if i had your feelings about bodybuilding i would not be posting on a bodybuilding forum
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exactly...men have always admired other men for their bodies and what their bodies can do.....if Michael Jordan walked into a room watch all the guys go nuts and run up to him so that they can get an autograph and be around him and ask him questions....we secretly would wish we were him because of the amazing things he can do with his body.....we men respect that.....and the hard work that went into being able to do that.....it's not gay.....no one would want to have sex with Michael Jordan or Brett Farve....unles you are truly gay....you could call it somewhat Homo-erotic because we are worshipping other men....but it is a RESPECTFUL worship not a "pull your pants down" kind of worship
exactly
and has anyone ever noticed that "bay" is the only one claiming fans jerkoff while watching a bodybuilding show?
many people here have been to shows, funny how he's the only one to claim seeing this
funny how the "straight guys" want to believe everything he says :-*
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You missed the point (again). Most Sports' (not male pageants) spectators are men. True. Let me explain this to you again....Bikini comp. or pageant, crowd made up of straight men = straight entertainment. Men in thong pageants, crowd made up of men = gay entertainment. Nothing wrong with gays watching men strut and dance for them, it's just the way it is.
And you can't compare a real Sport, to a bbing pageant. One is usually made up of Athletes, performing athletic feats (tackling, running, sprinting, dunking, jumping, throwing, et cetera). The other is muscular oiled up men, flexing and dancing. Nothing athletic about it.
Remove your blinders already......
Going to a bbing pageant, is the same as going to a Chippendale's show. The difference is, The Chippendale's are smart enough to get paid for their showing. To many of you, I'm sure you'd be fine going to a Chippendale's show, all while telling yourself, "I'm not gay, I'm just checking out the physiques". ::)
Why don't you get lost queer
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Why don't you get lost queer
Looks like someone's all butt-hurt about being exposed to the truth. :D
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then why are you here on a "gay forum"?
why do you watch the webcasts?
i've never been to a chippendale's show so i can't tell you much about them, i assume they show their genitals and i'm not aware of there being any sort of competition
if i had your feelings about bodybuilding i would not be posting on a bodybuilding forum
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Yep the greasy, little twink must be gay himself. Either that or he is just stupid, or both.
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Lots of hurt feelings in this thread....
Relax schmoes, no one is taking your muscled up, oiled men in thongs from you..... ;D
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I lift weights , built some muscle mass , and dont feel the need to check other males bodies in thongs , or rate them judging their bodyparts...
I also know 99% of people who lift weights are hugely insecure about something and that most of them never overcome this insecurity by getting "bigger".
All in all "bodybuilding" is full of insecure/gay people mostly, only a very few just lift weights for the health benefits and just leave it at this without taking the whole thing too far, or too seriously.
You cannot deny that most people who lift weights have an underlying psychological problem somewhere beneath the apparences. But just getting bigger very rarely solves this problem, that has to be adressed with something else than weights, as known as "using your brain".
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I lift weights , built some muscle mass , and dont feel the need to check other males bodies in thongs , or rate them judging their bodyparts...
I also know 99% of people who lift weights are hugely insecure about something and that most of them never overcome this insecurity by getting "bigger".
All in all "bodybuilding" is full of insecure/gay people mostly, only a very few just lift weights for the health benefits and just leave it at this without taking the whole thing too far, or too seriously.
You cannot deny that most people who lift weights have an underlying psychological problem somewhere beneath the apparences. But just getting bigger very rarely solves this problem, that has to be adressed with something else than weights, as known as "using your brain".
Well said. But unfortunately, your post will go over most people's heads here.
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I lift weights , built some muscle mass , and dont feel the need to check other males bodies in thongs , or rate them judging their bodyparts...
I also know 99% of people who lift weights are hugely insecure about something and that most of them never overcome this insecurity by getting "bigger".
All in all "bodybuilding" is full of insecure/gay people mostly, only a very few just lift weights for the health benefits and just leave it at this without taking the whole thing too far, or too seriously.
You cannot deny that most people who lift weights have an underlying psychological problem somewhere beneath the apparences. But just getting bigger very rarely solves this problem, that has to be adressed with something else than weights, as known as "using your brain".
your post has some validity concerning the psychological aspect but although this is probably true, give credit that at least they tried to do something about it by lifting and trying to look better and get healthier.....they did n;t curl up in a fetal position and go to a psychiatrist and cry all day..
lifting may have helped these people to channel their energy and feelings of low self -esteem in a more positive direction....that's not a bad thing.....
as for looking at muscle men..again it's simply hero-worship.....it's acknowledging that the guy did something positive with his body that we "normal"guys strive for and wish we could achieve....doesn't mean we want to sleep with the guy....although some who are truly gay may have that fantasy/motive...
millions of kids around the country who play sports aspire and fantasize about honing their talents so that they may play in the Major Leagues of baseball, basketball, football etc.....
for better or worse, the IFBB is our "major league"...getting there or having bodies like those guys means you have reached the top in your field....don't we all want to reach the top in whatever goal we set for ourselves?....looking at other guys to compare yourself to them or to marvel at what they have accomplished with their bodies is normal..it's the reason why guys sneak a peak at others in the shower...to compare themselves to others, and to see if they measure up, not to be gay..it's a normal thing to do...
unfortunately all the self-haters here on getbig aided by BayBGM have massive insecurities about the above..which says something in itself....we are tearing ourselves down and our sport apart by constantly saying it's a gay sport...if we say this yet we continue to participate in it and talk about it and look at the pictures we are self-outing ourselves as closet homosexuals just as Bay says we all are
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I lift weights , built some muscle mass , and dont feel the need to check other males bodies in thongs , or rate them judging their bodyparts...
I also know 99% of people who lift weights are hugely insecure about something and that most of them never overcome this insecurity by getting "bigger".
All in all "bodybuilding" is full of insecure/gay people mostly, only a very few just lift weights for the health benefits and just leave it at this without taking the whole thing too far, or too seriously.
You cannot deny that most people who lift weights have an underlying psychological problem somewhere beneath the apparences. But just getting bigger very rarely solves this problem, that has to be adressed with something else than weights, as known as "using your brain".
so what are you insecure about?
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Lots of hurt feelings in this thread....
Relax schmoes, no one is taking your muscled up, oiled men in thongs from you..... ;D
as long as there are people like you watching the webcasts they aren't going anywhere ;)
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