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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1002/2013EF000226/
2nd hottest month on record globally and that is 350 straight months of above avg temps.
Coach? can you make sense of this for me? where's ja rule?
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Yes, yes. Ignore your frozen pipes, fucking 8 feet of snow and your 2x heating bills. Listen to us, WE ARE SCIENTISTS!
Fuck off Global Warming dipshit.
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1002/2013EF000226/
2nd hottest month on record globally and that is 350 straight months of above avg temps.
Coach? can you make sense of this for me? where's ja rule?
Winter weather warning in Colorado. The "scientists" on the government dole can't even make sense of it. Whats going to happen? Is my tan going to get deeper? Are my palm trees going to live longer? Burn a little more gas because the air conditioner is on my car? Is the world going to end? Yes.....thats it. The world is going to end. So lets leave it to liberals to save the planet.....and rape us for even more tax money. Tool!
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Winter weather warning in Colorado. The "scientists" on the government dole can't even make sense of it. Whats going to happen? Is my tan going to get deeper? Are my palm trees going to live longer? Burn a little more gas because the air conditioner is on my car? Is the world going to end? Yes.....thats it. The world is going to end. So lets leave it to liberals to save the planet.....and rape us for even more tax money. Tool!
99%: Derp
1%: Proprietary Coach gibberish
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They have only been keeping accurate records of weather for under 150 years. If we have 20 decades of above cold or above hot is that proof the liberals are right? How was the weather every day of the year 500 years ago? We don't know because the records don't exist.
http://commonsensewonder.blogspot.com/2014/02/climate-change-and-fraud.html
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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1002/2013EF000226/
2nd hottest month on record globally and that is 350 straight months of above avg temps.
Coach? can you make sense of this for me? where's ja rule?
Jesus did it.
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Lots of selfish bastards out there destroying the planet because they wont be alive in a hundred years when things are really fucked you would think they would care about their kids.
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Yes, yes. Ignore your frozen pipes, fucking 8 feet of snow and your 2x heating bills. Listen to us, WE ARE SCIENTISTS!
Fuck off Global Warming dipshit.
when it snows somewhere, sometimes it's hot in other places. You are referring to weather, not climate. Great points all around.
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Who gives a fuck?
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They have only been keeping accurate records of weather for under 150 years. If we have 20 decades of above cold or above hot is that proof the liberals are right? How was the weather every day of the year 500 years ago? We don't know because the records don't exist.
http://commonsensewonder.blogspot.com/2014/02/climate-change-and-fraud.html
Oh they exist moron, you mean ice cores, tree rings? sediment? we can go way, way back in time, not just 150years. Whoever wrote this is an idiot, makes sense you would post it.
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Jesus did it.
Second hand accounts of jesus years apart convince coach, mountains of facts and data from all around the world which make accurate predictions? liberal bullshit.
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Winter weather warning in Colorado. The "scientists" on the government dole can't even make sense of it. Whats going to happen? Is my tan going to get deeper? Are my palm trees going to live longer? Burn a little more gas because the air conditioner is on my car? Is the world going to end? Yes.....thats it. The world is going to end. So lets leave it to liberals to save the planet.....and rape us for even more tax money. Tool!
Scientists on the government dole? from every country even countries that hate the US? they are in collaboration? every climate org in the world, from russia to china agree. Is it a worldwide consiparcy? are the increasing storms and shorelines not a reality?
yes the world could end, Venus is an example of the run away greehouse effect due to excess methane release. If the permafrost was to completely melt (hard to do) we would be in trouble, it would be an extinction event, however, it would be a slow crawl towards that, which we are currently seeing. volcanic activity in the past was much higher and act as carbon sinks, which have dissipated due to unrelenting CO2 emissions.
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www.drudgereport.com
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www.drudgereport.com
You can't even access the full article, you clearly didn't read it. Life must be nice being a moron.
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when it snows somewhere, sometimes it's hot in other places. You are referring to weather, not climate. Great points all around.
I love how when it's cold, that's "weather", when it's hot, it's "climate"
Not buying that retarded bullshit. Your climate models are pure shit. Your "science" is pure shit and nothing but thinly disguised policy preferences. Thank God that real scientists outed you criminal fucks before you crushed the economy of this country further than you fucking piece of shit pole smoking sperm grubbing assholes already have.
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I predict it's going to be really hot this summer.
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Lots of selfish bastards out there destroying the planet because they wont be alive in a hundred years when things are really fucked you would think they would care about their kids.
What if the selfish bastards don't have kids?
Why the fuck would anyone pay one red cent to help your fucking current or future mouth-breathing brood?
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I love how when it's cold, that's "weather", when it's hot, it's "climate"
Not buying that retarded bullshit. Your climate models are pure shit. Your "science" is pure shit and nothing but thinly disguised policy preferences. Thank God that real scientists outed you criminal fucks before you crushed the economy of this country further than you fucking piece of shit pole smoking sperm grubbing assholes already have.
go back on your meds.
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I predict it's going to be really hot this summer.
How's that (divine) perfection going, Coach? :)
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Yes, yes. Ignore your frozen pipes, fucking 8 feet of snow and your 2x heating bills. Listen to us, WE ARE SCIENTISTS!
Fuck off Global Warming dipshit.
And ignore that Antarctic ice sheet collapsing
http://gizmodo.com/the-antarctic-ice-sheet-has-started-to-collapse-and-not-1575164209 (http://gizmodo.com/the-antarctic-ice-sheet-has-started-to-collapse-and-not-1575164209)
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And ignore that Antarctic ice sheet collapsing
http://gizmodo.com/the-antarctic-ice-sheet-has-started-to-collapse-and-not-1575164209 (http://gizmodo.com/the-antarctic-ice-sheet-has-started-to-collapse-and-not-1575164209)
He doesn't beleive it dude, they pictures are fakes, the stats fake, the report fake, all government funded. well the antartic government.
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And ignore that Antarctic ice sheet collapsing
http://gizmodo.com/the-antarctic-ice-sheet-has-started-to-collapse-and-not-1575164209 (http://gizmodo.com/the-antarctic-ice-sheet-has-started-to-collapse-and-not-1575164209)
Read the article. The "collapse" is scheduled to take 1000 years and is already ignoring the ice build-back over the winter. This is just more pseudo-science BS by "academics" with financial interests in global warming.
Next.
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Can we all at least aknowledge that rapidly altering the atmosphere might have some effect on the planet?
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Read the article. The "collapse" is scheduled to take 1000 years and is already ignoring the ice build-back over the winter. This is just more pseudo-science BS by "academics" with financial interests in global warming.
Next.
1/10 Weak - even for Getbig. Dig deep. Want it. Be the troll.
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Read the article. The "collapse" is scheduled to take 1000 years and is already ignoring the ice build-back over the winter. This is just more pseudo-science BS by "academics" with financial interests in global warming.
Next.
Uh, in the article it was:
The relative good news is that the melting will take place over a few hundred years—so take a breath—but it means an inevitable 10-foot rise in sea level.
Not 1000s of yrs.
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“Today we present observational evidence that a large sector of the West Antarctic ice sheet has gone into irreversible retreat,” Dr. Rignot said in the NASA news conference. “It has passed the point of no return.”
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Oh they exist moron, you mean ice cores, tree rings? sediment? we can go way, way back in time, not just 150years. Whoever wrote this is an idiot, makes sense you would post it.
Dude, why the insults?
I believe one of the reasons there are so many conflicting opinions on this issue is that "real" scientists interpret the data differently. Some claim the Earth is warming; some don't. I remember when TIME Magazine ran a story on the coming of the "second Ice Age."
Some scientists also claim the Earth's weather patterns are cyclical, so it's natural to expect changes independent of human/industrial influence.
Most of these varied theories are backed by solid facts. I don't know that subscribing to any one necessarily relegates one to "moron" status.
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Dude, why the insults?
I believe one of the reasons there are so many conflicting opinions on this issue is that "real" scientists interpret the data differently. Some claim the Earth is warming; some don't. I remember when TIME Magazine ran a story on the coming of the "second Ice Age.
Some scientists also claim the Earth's weather patterns are cyclical, so it's natural to expect changes independent of human/industrial influence.
Most of these varied theories are backed by solid facts. I don't know that subscribing to any one necessarily relegates on to "moron" status.
There is no conflict. (Real) Scientists are unanimous regarding the warming of the planet, and that it is being incurred by Man. How, exactly, it is happening is the area of contention.
You want to get your 'science' from politicians - that's cool. But don't come here and not expect to get called on it. Oh brother.
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(Real) Scientists are unanimous regarding the warming of the planet...
No they aren't. Maybe all of the ones you follow are, but there are real scientists stating otherwise for various reasons. That's why I said the public has conflicting opinions - it depends on what (selective) info they're being fed. That goes for all sides of this issue.
If you honestly believe that all scientist are in agreement on this matter, then you're not keeping a very open mind, which dramatically minimizes one's credibility, IMO.
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Dude, why the insults?
I believe one of the reasons there are so many conflicting opinions on this issue is that "real" scientists interpret the data differently. Some claim the Earth is warming; some don't. I remember when TIME Magazine ran a story on the coming of the "second Ice Age."
Some scientists also claim the Earth's weather patterns are cyclical, so it's natural to expect changes independent of human/industrial influence.
Most of these varied theories are backed by solid facts. I don't know that subscribing to any one necessarily relegates one to "moron" status.
oh it does Montague, the evidence is literally overwhelming.
Just admit you don't know much about it and perhaps don't feed the ignorance.
Some people say cancer is caused by too much meat, some scientists say that the earth is flat, some scientists say that fructose is bad.. it's not an argument.
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No they aren't. Maybe all of the ones you follow are, but there are real scientists stating otherwise for various reasons. That's why I said the public has conflicting opinions - it depends on what (selective) info they're being fed. That goes for all sides of this issue.
If you honestly believe that all scientist are in agreement on this matter, then you're not keeping a very open mind, which dramatically minimizes one's credibility, IMO.
The vast majority of scientists who study climate agree something is happening and its caused or being accelerated by human action. Often scientists without a background in climate research are the most vocal opponents of climate change.
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No they aren't. Maybe all of the ones you follow are, but there are real scientists stating otherwise for various reasons. That's why I said the public has conflicting opinions - it depends on what (selective) info they're being fed. That goes for all sides of this issue.
If you honestly believe that all scientist are in agreement on this matter, then you're not keeping a very open mind, which dramatically minimizes one's credibility, IMO.
every Climate org in the world agrees it's man made. In fact they even released a paper the other day to comabat ignorance. Of the millions of papers raised only1.2% cast doubt on man made climate change, the rest are in support. It's not even a debate in climatology.
show me the evidence stating otherwise, facts. not the earth was once warm or the natural cycles bullshit. We know everything that causes "natural cycles" it isn't happening for a fact. the only variable with any predictive value is man made emissions.
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my opinion is Global warming is Happening. I saw a Documentary recently about Marine Biological life. trust me the Facts are clear. Fish and marine life are changing..adapting or moving to other Areas. This is proven. Also new species are coming to light.
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The ocean temperatures are changing. the water Levels too. Sumanis are increasing. It´s clear what is going on. we can´t spew Pollution into the atmosphere and think it´s ok. The Industry as we know it is not so old but in a short time has caused Change.
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No they aren't. Maybe all of the ones you follow are, but there are real scientists stating otherwise for various reasons. That's why I said the public has conflicting opinions - it depends on what (selective) info they're being fed. That goes for all sides of this issue.
If you honestly believe that all scientist are in agreement on this matter, then you're not keeping a very open mind, which dramatically minimizes one's credibility, IMO.
Scientists draw/suggest conclusions. Politicians state. I suggest you heed the former, and ignore the latter.
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Scientist will do as they are told. the ones who say the truth are ridiculed and "lose" credability. Wake up People. I am no fucking Hippy go Happy Dude but this is clear as the nose on your Face.
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Scientist will do as they are told. the ones who say the truth are ridiculed and "lose" credability. Wake up People. I am no fucking Hippy go Happy Dude but this is clear as the nose on your Face.
Total nonsense.
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Total nonsense.
well your opinion.
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Scientist will do as they are told. the ones who say the truth are ridiculed and "lose" credability. Wake up People. I am no fucking Hippy go Happy Dude but this is clear as the nose on your Face.
have you ever been to a university? they are the most critical individual people you will meet. They care only about truth, it's how you advance.
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have you ever been to a university? they are the most critical individual people you will meet. They care only about truth, it's how you advance.
I have to disagree with the statement they only care about truth.
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have you ever been to a university? they are the most critical individual people you will meet. They care only about truth, it's how you advance.
no i wish i had the Chance but my life went in another direction. i did go to School here in Hannover and learn a respectable Job. Harder of course being a Brit. I agree with you because People who question the "Status Quo" (not the band) are "put in their place".
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no i wish i had the Chance but my life went in another direction. i did go to School here in Hannover and learn a respectable Job. Harder of course being a Brit. I agree with you because People who question the "Status Quo" (not the band) are "put in their place".
Really? But, seriously, staying in school, and devoting 10+ years, or so, to (the purity of) a particular subject should count for something.
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Really? But, seriously, staying in school, and devoting 10+ years, or so, to (the purity of) a particular subject should count for something.
Knowledge is Dangerous for some People..think about it.
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This is why the pussies went from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". The former doesn't work when winter hits because it gets cold out der.
With "Climate Change" you get at least four (count 'em, 4!) seasons in which to whine.
Fall? "Oh Nooooo!!! The leaves are changing color! It's getting summer. It just got warm and they called it "Indian Summer"? WTF?!!! We need to change that to "Native American Solstice" so as not to offend anyone! What did man do to make this happen?!!!!"
Winter? "Oh Nooooo!!! There's white stuff on the ground and it's not cocaine! Water got all hard and stuff! It's cold out der!! I fell down on the frozen water stuff! Who can I sue?! What did man do to make this happen?!!!"
Spring? "Ahhhhh...How the Earth Goddess loves her chidrenz! But wait! Oh Nooooo! It's raining and I don't think we be in Kanzass no mo'! There's twirling clouds and trailer parks and bowling alleys are being deestroyed! I keep clicking my new LeBrons and sayin' they's no place like homiez but sheeeeit! What did man do to make this happenz?!!!
Summer? "Oh Nooooo!!! It's HOT out there. The Earth Goddess is pissed off at Republicans so She's holding back the rain from the left coast!!! Wildfires! Wildfires! Mother Nature is fighting back against the eeeeeevile of man! We should sacrifice a virgin to the Mother Earth but since this is California we'll have to go borrow one from Texas or maybe Utah! Whatever it is man did to make this happen, we deserve it!!! Well...Conservatives do. And anyone that disagrees with our brand of science."
Stupid hippie libtards.
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Knowledge is Dangerous for some People..think about it.
'Some people' are totally winnowed by the rigors of academic study. If you're a betting man, and you seem to like wagering, always place your cash with scientists, not politicians or loud mouths. You may not end up being rich, but you will never lose money.
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This is why the pussies went from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". The former doesn't work when winter hits because it gets cold out der.
With "Climate Change" you get at least four (count 'em, 4!) seasons in which to whine.
Fall? "Oh Nooooo!!! The leaves are changing color! It's getting summer. It just got warm and they called it "Indian Summer"? WTF?!!! We need to change that to "Native American Solstice" so as not to offend anyone! What did man do to make this happen?!!!!"
Winter? "Oh Nooooo!!! There's white stuff on the ground and it's not cocaine! Water got all hard and stuff! It's cold out der!! I fell down on the frozen water stuff! Who can I sue?! What did man do to make this happen?!!!"
Spring? "Ahhhhh...How the Earth Goddess loves her chidrenz! But wait! Oh Nooooo! It's raining and I don't think we be in Kanzass no mo'! There's twirling clouds and trailer parks and bowling alleys are being deestroyed! I keep clicking my new LeBrons and sayin' they's no place like homiez but sheeeeit! What did man do to make this happenz?!!!
Summer? "Oh Nooooo!!! It's HOT out there. The Earth Goddess is pissed off at Republicans so She's holding back the rain from the left coast!!! Wildfires! Wildfires! Mother Nature is fighting back against the eeeeeevile of man! We should sacrifice a virgin to the Mother Earth but since this is California we'll have to go borrow one from Texas or maybe Utah! Whatever it is man did to make this happen, we deserve it!!! Well...Conservatives do. And anyone that disagrees with our brand of science."
Stupid hippie libtards.
Weak sauce. Even for Getbig.
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'Some people' are totally winnowed by the rigors of academic study. If you're a betting man, and you seem to like wagering, always place your cash with scientists, not politicians or loud mouths. You may not end up being rich, but you will never lose money.
yes but YOU my man are missing the Point here... politicians control science
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Weak sauce. Even for Getbig.
Surely you jest, Lancelot Link?
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yes but YOU my man are missing the Point here... politicians control science
No. Not missed. Shrub Bush was noted, and then, derided for loading his 'science' advisory committee/budgets with antediluvians and their inanities. One of the first things Obama reversed when he hit town. Guy has misplayed lots, but even he knows to leave science to scientists.
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No. Not missed. Shrub Bush was noted, and then, derided for loading his 'science' advisory committee/budgets with antediluvians and their inanities. One of the first things Obama reversed when he hit town. Guy has misplayed lots, but even he knows to leave science to scientists.
Are you arguing that the Obama administration bases it's policies only on rational scientific opinions?
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I love how when it's cold, that's "weather", when it's hot, it's "climate"
Not buying that retarded bullshit. Your climate models are pure shit. Your "science" is pure shit and nothing but thinly disguised policy preferences. Thank God that real scientists outed you criminal fucks before you crushed the economy of this country further than you fucking piece of shit pole smoking sperm grubbing assholes already have.
The test is kicking in, mate :D
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Are you arguing that the Obama administration bases it's policies only on rational scientific opinions?
Stupid, leading question. Be that better person.
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No. Not missed. Shrub Bush was noted, and then, derided for loading his 'science' advisory committee/budgets with antediluvians and their inanities. One of the first things Obama reversed when he hit town. Guy has misplayed lots, but even he knows to leave science to scientists.
be serious.. the Bush empire is built on oil. Which is not environment friendly. The only Republican who really saw Dangers not just around the Globe was Reagan. Not getting into a political debate but he knew as well that we are not alone. I do believe he wanted the star wars Project for reasons..not just against the Soviets.
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Can we all at least aknowledge that rapidly altering the atmosphere might have some effect on the planet?
No response to a neutral, perfectly reasonable question......hmmm
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Stupid, leading question. Be that better person.
You said the Obama leaves the science to the scientists? Does that apply to all the sciences and not just the hard sciences?
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Can't take credit for the below, came across it one day when reading about "climate change"
"It would be tragic if medical science adopted the standards that climate science employs. Can you imagine getting a paper cut on your finger and having a doctor announce that you're going to die? He'd base his opinion on your current rate of blood loss, calculating that within a few days you'd go into circulatory collapse. Once the blood stopped flowing by itself he would at first deny that there was any pause in the bleeding. After awhile, he'd go looking for the missing blood and he'd find it in your lungs and your brain and then he'd declare that it was just waiting there until the bleeding resumed. Even though there was now no blood loss occurring, he would insist that his confidence in your demise had actually increased from 90% to 95%. He'd support his findings by pointing to a survey of doctors that showed that 97% of them agreed that blood loss can be fatal and that paper can cause cuts.
His recommended solution would be to inject potassium nitrate into your heart so that your blood would no longer be moving and wouldn't be able to leak out of your body. He'd insist that your heart was unsustainable to begin with and could easily be replaced by a carrot and a bit of string. Once that failed he'd immediately blame lack of funding and fly to Cancun or Bali to meet with 20,000 other doctors, activists and politicians to take money away from everyone with a heart and use the revenue to buy bigger carrots.
40 to 5
Already heard this bed time story.
1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000.
After the wettest winter in 248 years, the UK was hit with snowstorms last week. Last year, the UK’s climate authority predicted that this winter would be drier than usual, with only a 15 percent chance of being wet. They were very wrong.
2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland. An article from the UK’s Guardian in 2004 quoted scientists and environmentalists predicting the demise of Scotland’s winter sports industry, including more remarks from Dr. David Viner, who had already predicted the end of snow in Britain.
“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry,” said Dr. Viner. “It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.”
“Adam Watson, from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in Banchory, Aberdeenshire, believes the industry has no more than 20 years left,” the Guardian reported.
Viner and Watson must have been surprised to see the BBC report that Scottish mountains may be their snowiest since 1945.
3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.
Gore was echoing the predictions made by American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, who said that “you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”
But in 2013, Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent from 2012 levels. Data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft showed that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic miles during the same time last year.
4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall. In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.
“Warmer, earlier springs are a clear signal of a changing climate,” the group said. “March temperatures have grown 2.1 degrees (F) hotter, on average, in the United States since reliable record-keeping began in 1880s. Similarly, the first leaves have started appearing on plants several days earlier than they used to across the country.”
But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.
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More AGW non-sense from Live Science, what a surprise, AGW is as un-sceintific as it comes, it's been disproven by every major scientific institution and thousands upon thousands of independent scientists call AGW the anti-science. I remember in the 80's all these alarmists saying that New York will be under 30 stories of water by the early 2000's. Didn't happen, in the 90's they predicted category 5 hurricanes would be hitting our shores en mass by the 2010's, it is now 2014 and we have seen one category 5 in the last five years. They predicted the polar icecaps would be gone by 2015, and yet they are growing. They predicted temperatures climbing by at least 5 degrees every year, we have seen 1 degree rise in temperatures globally in the last 100 years. Alarmists have beat this drum to no end hoping that ignorance would propell their agenda, but now in the age of information one can actually research these studies and find that the ones supporting the claim of AGW are bogus and that there are far more scientists who say that AGW is a political scam than are made public. That said lets end this with some quotes from actual scientists and their findings.
"NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted" - NASA publicized report on remote sensing authored by DR. Roy Spencer
"The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth." - CERN statement during a 2011 press conference with the support of over 63 scientists from 17 institutions.
"global warming (now “climate change”) a “new religion”. Its temple is built on grounds of faith rather than scientific foundations." - Ivar Giaever Winner of a Nobel prize in Physics.
“As a scientist who knows the data, I simply can’t accept [the claim that man plays a dominant role in Earth’s climate],” - Jeff Kuhn, University of Hawaii
Now there is also a petition currently signed by more than 31, 070 scientists more than 9.000 of whom have PHD's that says AGW is un-scientific and they neither support it nor condone it's spread. On the other hand the top 100 supporters of AGW are as follows.
Celebrities
Al Gore, B.A. Government (no science degree)
Alanis Morissette, High School Diploma
Bill Maher, B.A. English (no science degree)
Bono (Paul Hewson), High School Diploma
Daryl Hanna, B.F.A. Theater (no science degree)
Ed Begley Jr., High School Diploma
Jackson Browne, High School Diploma
Jon Bon Jovi (John Bongiovi), High School Diploma
Oprah Winfrey, B.A. Speech and Drama (no science degree)
Prince Charles of Whales, B.A. (no science degree)
Sheryl Crow, B.A. Music Education (no science degree)
Sienna Miller, High School Diploma
ABC - Sam Champion, B.A. Broadcast News (no science degree, not a meteorologist)
CBS - Harry Smith, B.A. Communications and Theater (no science degree)
CBS - Katie Couric, B.A. English (no science degree)
CBS - Scott Pelley, College Dropout
NBC - Ann Curry, B.A. Journalism (no science degree)
NBC - Anne Thompson, B.A. American studies (no science degree)
NBC - Matt Lauer. B.A. Communications (no science degree)
NBC - Meredith Vieira, B.A. English (no science degree)
Al Sharpton, College Dropout
Alicia Keys, College Dropout
Alicia Silverstone, High School Dropout
Art Bell, College Dropout
Ben Affleck, College Dropout
Ben Stiller, College Dropout
Billy Jean King, College Dropout
Brad Pitt, College Dropout
Britney Spears, High School Dropout
Bruce Springsteen, College Dropout
Cameron Diaz, High School Dropout
Cindy Crawford, College Dropout
Diane Keaton, College Dropout
Drew Barrymore, High School Dropout
George Clooney, College Dropout
Gwyneth Paltrow, College Dropout
Jason Biggs, College Dropout
Jennifer Connelly, College Dropout
Jessica Simpson, High School Dropout
John Travolta, High School Dropout
Joshua Jackson, High School Dropout
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, College Dropout
Julia Roberts, College Dropout
Kanye West, College Dropout
Keanu Reeves, High School Dropout
Kevin Bacon, High School Dropout
Kiefer Sutherland, High School Dropout
Leonardo DiCaprio, High School Dropout
Lindsay Lohan, High School Dropout
Ludacris (Christopher Bridges), College Dropout
Madonna (Madonna Ciccone), College Dropout
Matt Damon, College Dropout
Matthew Modine, College Dropout
Michael Moore, College Dropout
Nicole Richie, College Dropout
Neve Campbell, High School Dropout
Olivia Newton-John, High School Dropout
Orlando Bloom, High School Dropout
Paris Hilton, High School Dropout
Pierce Brosnan. High School Dropout
Queen Latifah (Dana Elaine Owens), College Dropout
Richard Branson, High School Dropout
Robert Redford, College Dropout
Rosie O'Donnell, College Dropout
Sarah Silverman, College Dropout
Sean Penn, College Dropout
Ted Turner, College Dropout
Tommy Lee (Thomas Lee Bass), High School Dropout
Uma Thurman, High School Dropout
Willie Nelson, High School Dropout
Politicians:
John McCain, B.S. (Graduated 894th out of 899 in his class)
Newt Gingrich, Ph.D. Modern European History (no science degree) (Hypocrite)
Pat Robertson, B.A., J.D., M.A. Divinity (no science degree)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, B.A. Government, J.D. Law (no science degree, 'recovered' Heroin addict)
Scientists:
Bill Nye, B.S. Mechanical Engineering (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
Gavin Schmidt, B.A. Ph.D. Applied Mathematics (RealClimate.org)
James Hansen, B.A. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Astronomy, Ph.D. Physics (NASA, Gavin Schmidt's Boss)
James Lovelock, Ph.D. Medicine, D.Sc. Biophysics
Lonnie Thompson, Ph.D. Geological Sciences
Michael Mann, A.B. Applied Math, Physics, M.S. Physics, Ph.D. Geology & Geophysics (RealClimate.org)
Michael Oppenheimer, S.B. Chemistry, Ph.D. Chemical Physics
Richard C. J. Somerville, Ph.D. Meteorology
Steven Schneider, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering and Plasma Physics
Social Scientists:
Ronald Bailey, B.A. Philosophy and Economics (Science Correspondent, Reason Magazine)
So yeah, follow the paper trail you will find that AGW has fewer scientists supporting it than has standing against it."
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be serious.. the Bush empire is built on oil. Which is not environment friendly. The only Republican who really saw Dangers not just around the Globe was Reagan. Not getting into a political debate but he knew as well that we are not alone. I do believe he wanted the star wars Project for reasons..not just against the Soviets.
Sorry. Just answering the question asked. Reagan was a solid, second tier actor, and then an industry spokesman; those 'skills' he brought to the White House. If you're suggesting he started SDI for any other reasons than defence (and that is arguable), then I have some swampland to sell you.
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http://www.earthday.org/blog/2013/08/05/new-study-reveals-impact-global-warming-marine-life
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Sorry. Just answering the question asked. Reagan was a solid, second tier actor, and then an industry spokesman; those 'skills' he brought to the White House. If you're suggesting he started SDI for any other reasons than defence (and that is arguable), then I have some swampland to sell you.
tell me your swampland theory.
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The Facts are there. The planet is changing.
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Can we all at least aknowledge that rapidly altering the atmosphere might have some effect on the planet?
Sure. Define "rapidly" and define "some effect"
Then talk about solar cycles and the effect of non-man-made pollutants (volcanos) in the atmosphere. Then talk about the world's worst polluters (China, India) who refuse to play the stupid AGW game. And what yiu have is a bunch of ACADEMIC FRAUDS (Michael Mann), linked with progressive politicians that hate western civilization (not an ad hominem, but a truth) attempting to cripple our economy while making money with their green investments.
When their lie is discovered and known this year or next, hopefully we will have the courage as a country to put these fucking frauds against a wall and shoot them.
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The Facts are there. The planet is changing.
Yes, because before the 20th century, the planet was in a state of perfect homeostasis. Never changing. Five billion years of sunny and 73 degrees. Congrats for figuring that out.
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http://globalwarmingisreal.com/2010/06/24/earthtalk-volcanoes-and-global-warming/
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less than 1% read it .
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but let us if you want to talk about it...talk about what you don´t see...under the Ocean. the Facts are there.
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Those who believe this stuff should be forced to live it. No different than if you claim Christ, but live as one who doesn't believe. If you think man is destroying the world, then get off the grid. No electricity, no heat no A/C, not mass produced clothes or food, no mechanical forms of transportation...Nothing . No soup for you!
That would show you why the average lifespan was so low so long ago.
I don't make people wear shoes. Don't try to make me take mine off. Freakin' hippie libtard scum.
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Those who believe this stuff should be forced to live it. No different than if you claim Christ, but live as one who doesn't believe. If you think man is destroying the world, then get off the grid. No electricity, no heat no A/C, not mass produced clothes or food, no mechanical forms of transportation...Nothing . No soup for you!
That would show you why the average lifespan was so low so long ago.
I don't make people wear shoes. Don't try to make me take mine off. Freakin' hippie libtard scum.
Average lifespan was so "low" because of high child mortality. If you made it to 21 in England in the 1500s, you could expect to reach 70.
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Average lifespan was so "low" because of high child mortality. If you made it to 21 in England in the 1500s, you could expect to reach 70.
I understand that, but there were plenty of settlers that died far earlier than 70 here in America. It is what it is. Without the "comforts of home", the wilderness is just that. Wild.
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Those who believe this stuff should be forced to live it. No different than if you claim Christ, but live as one who doesn't believe. If you think man is destroying the world, then get off the grid. No electricity, no heat no A/C, not mass produced clothes or food, no mechanical forms of transportation...Nothing . No soup for you!
That would show you why the average lifespan was so low so long ago.
I don't make people wear shoes. Don't try to make me take mine off. Freakin' hippie libtard scum.
See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like Coach. Just an angry, shrill man.
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But getting back to the subject. we are not talking about life span but the future. It might be true that we now live longer but the Point of my argument is what will come for future Generations.
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I understand that, but there were plenty of settlers that died far earlier than 70 here in America. It is what it is. Without the "comforts of home", the wilderness is just that. Wild.
Plenty of people that die before 70 now, even with the "comforts of home".
In fact, we'd probably live longer if we didn't have as many creature comforts and had to stay as active as our forebears
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Average lifespan was so "low" because of high child mortality. If you made it to 21 in England in the 1500s, you could expect to reach 70.
And the lack of medical care.
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Plenty of people that die before 70 now, even with the "comforts of home".
In fact, we'd probably live longer if we didn't have as many creature comforts and had to stay as active as our forebears
exactly and the People who sell These comforts are making Money...pollution...hell no..!!!
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Plenty of people that die before 70 now, even with the "comforts of home".
In fact, we'd probably live longer if we didn't have as many creature comforts and had to stay as active as our forebears
Big factor is tooth care. Keep your teeth and you're, more or less, good to go. Lose your teeth and you could probably gum some food 'til you're 30. I remember some (Brit) relatives that preferred to have all their teeth yanked, and then get dentures, rather than take some care of their glazzies. :-\
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And the lack of medical care.
Of course, but it's not like it was a rarity to live last 55 like stats would suggest. Average lifespan now is 84, I believe. So 500 years of medical developments led to a massive reduction in infant mortality (nothing to sneeze at) and 20% longer lives.
Point being, our bodies seem designed to give out around 80 years, give or take a few years. Further advances in medicine probably won't extend lifespan much beyond that
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Weak sauce. Even for Getbig.
See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like anyone, liberal or conservative that wants to force your beliefs upon an entire society sans subjective proof. Are you an "angry, shrill man"?
I have no idea and in truth, don't care.
If something suits your need or agenda, whatever that may be, then you like anyone else, will espouse it. And for the record, I am not here to "debate". I just state what I hold true, be it faith or fact based. And like I said, I am not going to make you wear the same shoes as I. In the case of people thinking we're killing the planet, they can go native all they want. I won't stop them, but they shouldn't force anyone else to join them.
Purple tennis shoes anyone? Thought so.
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See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like anyone, liberal or conservative that wants to force your beliefs upon an entire society sans subjective proof. Are you an "angry, shrill man"?
I have no idea and in truth, don't care.
If something suits your need or agenda, whatever that may be, then you like anyone else, will espouse it. And for the record, I am not here to "debate". I just state what I hold true, be it faith or fact based. And like I said, I am not going to make you wear the same shoes as I. In the case of people thinking we're killing the planet, they can go native all they want. I won't stop them, but they shouldn't force anyone else to join them.
Purple tennis shoes anyone? Thought so.
Sad. You should have some idea. And you should care. Like life. There should be some level of IQ, empathy and compassion to ride this roller coaster. I just don't understand people who want to yell at their fellow Man, and not listen. :-\
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we are not talking being Radical Hippy Dudes.. but small changes. Why say we should walk around like Stone Age man? Absurd. The Fuels we use are causing pollution period. Do we Need Nuclear waste buried under our feet.. who gives a fuck? us here now? no but future Generations.
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I just don't understand people who want to yell at their fellow Man, and not listen. :-\
You did just that and dodged my questions as well. You've done this several times.
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You did just that and dodged my questions as well. You've done this several times.
Apologies. I guess I missed your posts among the other thread stridencies - which is nice for you, or another weak spot for me. :-\
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The vast majority of scientists who study climate agree something is happening and its caused or being accelerated by human action. Often scientists without a background in climate research are the most vocal opponents of climate change.
Which is ironic. Because they would be crying foul if other scientists who are not in their field questioned them.
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Those who believe this stuff should be forced to live it. No different than if you claim Christ, but live as one who doesn't believe. If you think man is destroying the world, then get off the grid. No electricity, no heat no A/C, not mass produced clothes or food, no mechanical forms of transportation...Nothing . No soup for you!
That would show you why the average lifespan was so low so long ago.
I don't make people wear shoes. Don't try to make me take mine off. Freakin' hippie libtard scum.
That's your solution? how about we meet half way. Any solution that works is good, can we make clouds? more carbon sinks? possibly? can we switch to other means of energy? new materials like graphene etc.
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Can't take credit for the below, came across it one day when reading about "climate change"
"It would be tragic if medical science adopted the standards that climate science employs. Can you imagine getting a paper cut on your finger and having a doctor announce that you're going to die? He'd base his opinion on your current rate of blood loss, calculating that within a few days you'd go into circulatory collapse. Once the blood stopped flowing by itself he would at first deny that there was any pause in the bleeding. After awhile, he'd go looking for the missing blood and he'd find it in your lungs and your brain and then he'd declare that it was just waiting there until the bleeding resumed. Even though there was now no blood loss occurring, he would insist that his confidence in your demise had actually increased from 90% to 95%. He'd support his findings by pointing to a survey of doctors that showed that 97% of them agreed that blood loss can be fatal and that paper can cause cuts.
His recommended solution would be to inject potassium nitrate into your heart so that your blood would no longer be moving and wouldn't be able to leak out of your body. He'd insist that your heart was unsustainable to begin with and could easily be replaced by a carrot and a bit of string. Once that failed he'd immediately blame lack of funding and fly to Cancun or Bali to meet with 20,000 other doctors, activists and politicians to take money away from everyone with a heart and use the revenue to buy bigger carrots.
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Already heard this bed time story.
1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000.
After the wettest winter in 248 years, the UK was hit with snowstorms last week. Last year, the UK’s climate authority predicted that this winter would be drier than usual, with only a 15 percent chance of being wet. They were very wrong.
2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland. An article from the UK’s Guardian in 2004 quoted scientists and environmentalists predicting the demise of Scotland’s winter sports industry, including more remarks from Dr. David Viner, who had already predicted the end of snow in Britain.
“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry,” said Dr. Viner. “It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.”
“Adam Watson, from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in Banchory, Aberdeenshire, believes the industry has no more than 20 years left,” the Guardian reported.
Viner and Watson must have been surprised to see the BBC report that Scottish mountains may be their snowiest since 1945.
3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.
Gore was echoing the predictions made by American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, who said that “you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”
But in 2013, Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent from 2012 levels. Data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft showed that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic miles during the same time last year.
4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall. In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.
“Warmer, earlier springs are a clear signal of a changing climate,” the group said. “March temperatures have grown 2.1 degrees (F) hotter, on average, in the United States since reliable record-keeping began in 1880s. Similarly, the first leaves have started appearing on plants several days earlier than they used to across the country.”
But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.
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More AGW non-sense from Live Science, what a surprise, AGW is as un-sceintific as it comes, it's been disproven by every major scientific institution and thousands upon thousands of independent scientists call AGW the anti-science. I remember in the 80's all these alarmists saying that New York will be under 30 stories of water by the early 2000's. Didn't happen, in the 90's they predicted category 5 hurricanes would be hitting our shores en mass by the 2010's, it is now 2014 and we have seen one category 5 in the last five years. They predicted the polar icecaps would be gone by 2015, and yet they are growing. They predicted temperatures climbing by at least 5 degrees every year, we have seen 1 degree rise in temperatures globally in the last 100 years. Alarmists have beat this drum to no end hoping that ignorance would propell their agenda, but now in the age of information one can actually research these studies and find that the ones supporting the claim of AGW are bogus and that there are far more scientists who say that AGW is a political scam than are made public. That said lets end this with some quotes from actual scientists and their findings.
"NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted" - NASA publicized report on remote sensing authored by DR. Roy Spencer
"The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth." - CERN statement during a 2011 press conference with the support of over 63 scientists from 17 institutions.
"global warming (now “climate change”) a “new religion”. Its temple is built on grounds of faith rather than scientific foundations." - Ivar Giaever Winner of a Nobel prize in Physics.
“As a scientist who knows the data, I simply can’t accept [the claim that man plays a dominant role in Earth’s climate],” - Jeff Kuhn, University of Hawaii
Now there is also a petition currently signed by more than 31, 070 scientists more than 9.000 of whom have PHD's that says AGW is un-scientific and they neither support it nor condone it's spread. On the other hand the top 100 supporters of AGW are as follows.
Celebrities
Al Gore, B.A. Government (no science degree)
Alanis Morissette, High School Diploma
Bill Maher, B.A. English (no science degree)
Bono (Paul Hewson), High School Diploma
Daryl Hanna, B.F.A. Theater (no science degree)
Ed Begley Jr., High School Diploma
Jackson Browne, High School Diploma
Jon Bon Jovi (John Bongiovi), High School Diploma
Oprah Winfrey, B.A. Speech and Drama (no science degree)
Prince Charles of Whales, B.A. (no science degree)
Sheryl Crow, B.A. Music Education (no science degree)
Sienna Miller, High School Diploma
ABC - Sam Champion, B.A. Broadcast News (no science degree, not a meteorologist)
CBS - Harry Smith, B.A. Communications and Theater (no science degree)
CBS - Katie Couric, B.A. English (no science degree)
CBS - Scott Pelley, College Dropout
NBC - Ann Curry, B.A. Journalism (no science degree)
NBC - Anne Thompson, B.A. American studies (no science degree)
NBC - Matt Lauer. B.A. Communications (no science degree)
NBC - Meredith Vieira, B.A. English (no science degree)
Al Sharpton, College Dropout
Alicia Keys, College Dropout
Alicia Silverstone, High School Dropout
Art Bell, College Dropout
Ben Affleck, College Dropout
Ben Stiller, College Dropout
Billy Jean King, College Dropout
Brad Pitt, College Dropout
Britney Spears, High School Dropout
Bruce Springsteen, College Dropout
Cameron Diaz, High School Dropout
Cindy Crawford, College Dropout
Diane Keaton, College Dropout
Drew Barrymore, High School Dropout
George Clooney, College Dropout
Gwyneth Paltrow, College Dropout
Jason Biggs, College Dropout
Jennifer Connelly, College Dropout
Jessica Simpson, High School Dropout
John Travolta, High School Dropout
Joshua Jackson, High School Dropout
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, College Dropout
Julia Roberts, College Dropout
Kanye West, College Dropout
Keanu Reeves, High School Dropout
Kevin Bacon, High School Dropout
Kiefer Sutherland, High School Dropout
Leonardo DiCaprio, High School Dropout
Lindsay Lohan, High School Dropout
Ludacris (Christopher Bridges), College Dropout
Madonna (Madonna Ciccone), College Dropout
Matt Damon, College Dropout
Matthew Modine, College Dropout
Michael Moore, College Dropout
Nicole Richie, College Dropout
Neve Campbell, High School Dropout
Olivia Newton-John, High School Dropout
Orlando Bloom, High School Dropout
Paris Hilton, High School Dropout
Pierce Brosnan. High School Dropout
Queen Latifah (Dana Elaine Owens), College Dropout
Richard Branson, High School Dropout
Robert Redford, College Dropout
Rosie O'Donnell, College Dropout
Sarah Silverman, College Dropout
Sean Penn, College Dropout
Ted Turner, College Dropout
Tommy Lee (Thomas Lee Bass), High School Dropout
Uma Thurman, High School Dropout
Willie Nelson, High School Dropout
Politicians:
John McCain, B.S. (Graduated 894th out of 899 in his class)
Newt Gingrich, Ph.D. Modern European History (no science degree) (Hypocrite)
Pat Robertson, B.A., J.D., M.A. Divinity (no science degree)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, B.A. Government, J.D. Law (no science degree, 'recovered' Heroin addict)
Scientists:
Bill Nye, B.S. Mechanical Engineering (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
Gavin Schmidt, B.A. Ph.D. Applied Mathematics (RealClimate.org)
James Hansen, B.A. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Astronomy, Ph.D. Physics (NASA, Gavin Schmidt's Boss)
James Lovelock, Ph.D. Medicine, D.Sc. Biophysics
Lonnie Thompson, Ph.D. Geological Sciences
Michael Mann, A.B. Applied Math, Physics, M.S. Physics, Ph.D. Geology & Geophysics (RealClimate.org)
Michael Oppenheimer, S.B. Chemistry, Ph.D. Chemical Physics
Richard C. J. Somerville, Ph.D. Meteorology
Steven Schneider, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering and Plasma Physics
Social Scientists:
Ronald Bailey, B.A. Philosophy and Economics (Science Correspondent, Reason Magazine)
So yeah, follow the paper trail you will find that AGW has fewer scientists supporting it than has standing against it."
Great detective work, nothing to see here folks, retard alpha just posted a small novel that has no citations and he can't take credit for it, because he didn't read it. There are so many outright lies in this non sense you should be buried alive from the neck up with your mouth pried open and buck scent spread on your lips.
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Great detective work, nothing to see here folks, retard alpha just posted a small novel that has no citations and he can't take credit for it, because he didn't read it. There are so many outright lies in this non sense you should be buried alive from the neck up with your mouth pried open and buck scent spread on your lips.
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http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf
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http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf
What journal is this? this appears to be their paper. Can you speak or only copy and paste?
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See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like Coach. Just an angry, shrill man.
See. Here's where you lose your last bit of augmentative creditability. Poor debating, and then resort to name calling. Like anyone, liberal or conservative that wants to force your beliefs upon an entire society sans subjective proof. Are you an "angry, shrill man"?
I have no idea and in truth, don't care.
If something suits your need or agenda, whatever that may be, then you like anyone else, will espouse it. And for the record, I am not here to "debate". I just state what I hold true, be it faith or fact based. And like I said, I am not going to make you wear the same shoes as I. In the case of people thinking we're killing the planet, they can go native all they want. I won't stop them, but they shouldn't force anyone else to join them.
Purple tennis shoes anyone? Thought so.
Sad. You should have some idea. And you should care. Like life. There should be some level of IQ, empathy and compassion to ride this roller coaster. I just don't understand people who want to yell at their fellow Man, and not listen. :-\
Umm... I don't care if you're an angry shrill man. I suppose you missed it because you were looking for what satisfied your agenda. No worries, we all do this from time to time. I didn't miss it when you said that to me in a previous posting of yours, ergo I used to good effect in my reply to you. In truth you didn't even bother to question my being so but instead said that I was just like Coach, an angry, shrill man. How judgmental you are. We all are so don't bother ruffling any feathers as I am more than aware that humans behave in ways we both admire and despise. If not, I suggest you get used to disappointment, not only with your fellow man but with yourself.
And no need to be "sad". My IQ is fine, I have as many ideas as the next person (including you) and where you get the idea I don't care about thing such as "life" I have no idea. Look at my first paragraph. You missed what I was mocking because of your agenda, i.e., to make light of me and my take on this subject.
Again, so you don't get upset. We all do this from time to time. Now, once more I will say that I don't "debate". I state what I hold to be true be it by faith or by fact (that would mean my belief in Christ or by the merits of Science in case you were wondering). We are not so different. Societal zeitgeist would have us "celebrate" that which makes us different. I prefer to concentrate on what we have in common. There's a lot more of that than any differences you know.
Be well.
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What journal is this? this appears to be their paper. Can you speak or only copy and paste?
The basis of the warmist argument is that there is no debate and the the science is overwhelming. Unfortunately the science is not and there is a debate even if you choose to ignore it. Some of us read more than others and I can't do everything for you nor do I want to. Global warming is a money making machine, this much is obvious. I have worked in science, I know how the game works. There is a vested interest in making data fit a hypothesis rather than interpreting data to form a hypothesis.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/
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The basis of the warmist argument is that there is no debate and the the science is overwhelming. Unfortunately the science is not and there is a debate even if you choose to ignore it. Some of us read more than others and I can't do everything for you nor do I want to. Global warming is a money making machine, this much is obvious. I have worked in science, I know how the game works. There is a vested interest in making data fit a hypothesis rather than interpreting data to form a hypothesis.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/
Its the American (capitalist) way. Follow the paper trail, it will eventually lead to some greenbacks.
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If the Oil companies via the Bush axis of the fundie party gets their way, it will a slow March to Greenhouse extinction even in a few centuries. We will go the way of the dinosaurs for being unable to learn and adapt.
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The basis of the warmist argument is that there is no debate and the the science is overwhelming. Unfortunately the science is not and there is a debate even if you choose to ignore it. Some of us read more than others and I can't do everything for you nor do I want to. Global warming is a money making machine, this much is obvious. I have worked in science, I know how the game works. There is a vested interest in making data fit a hypothesis rather than interpreting data to form a hypothesis.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/02/13/peer-reviewed-survey-finds-majority-of-scientists-skeptical-of-global-warming-crisis/
the warmist argument? that;s the basis of the debate is that there is a consensus? not the mounds of evidence. Warmist LMAO.
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the warmist argument? that;s the basis of the debate is that there is a consensus? not the mounds of evidence. Warmist LMAO.
LOL :)
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Last time I talked to a buddy of mine working up in the Balkan Oilfield he told me 40 below still feels awfully cold come January in the Dakotas.
And I'll take that real world, working man experience over any basement dwelling, cheeto munching liberal trying to feel better about his miserable existence by sending out hashtag sanctions and other various forms of tomfoolery nonsense.
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Winter weather warning in Colorado. The "scientists" on the government dole can't even make sense of it. Whats going to happen? Is my tan going to get deeper? Are my palm trees going to live longer? Burn a little more gas because the air conditioner is on my car? Is the world going to end? Yes.....thats it. The world is going to end. So lets leave it to liberals to save the planet.....and rape us for even more tax money. Tool!
So they are not scientists? They did not earn their PhDs? Every university just hands over PhDs to people? I heard Harvard was giving away free PhD's.
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Getbig Scientists > Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Princeton, Dartmouth, UCLA, Brown, Cornell, NYU, UPenn Scientists.
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If the Oil companies via the Bush axis of the fundie party gets their way, it will a slow March to Greenhouse extinction even in a few centuries. We will go the way of the dinosaurs for being unable to learn and adapt.
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So they are not scientists? They did not earn their PhDs? Every university just hands over PhDs to people? I heard Harvard was giving away free PhD's.
There's also scientists that call complete bullshit on it. Are they less qualified than the ones who made the bullshit up?
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Last time I talked to a buddy of mine working up in the Balkan Oilfield he told me 40 below still feels awfully cold come January in the Dakotas.
And I'll take that real world, working man experience over any basement dwelling, cheeto munching liberal trying to feel better about his miserable existence by sending out hashtag sanctions and other various forms of tomfoolery nonsense.
Yeah last time I checked, the winter in my area was pretty cold. Global Warming? More like Global Cooling lol
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we are not talking being Radical Hippy Dudes.. but small changes. Why say we should walk around like Stone Age man? Absurd. The Fuels we use are causing pollution period. Do we Need Nuclear waste buried under our feet.. who gives a fuck? us here now? no but future Generations.
Nuclear fuel is by far the best option currently available.
I think climate change (formerly global warming til stats showed there was no linear warming) is exaggerated and ignorant of extrinsic factors like solar flares etc but I am all for moving away from a reliance on oil.
Primarily because I saw a programme on Qatar recently. They want to spend $200 billion on the World Cup. They give free water and electricity to all citizens, plus guaranteed jobs. Yet they use slave labour, have no innovation and are backwards. Oil (and gas - see Russia) give power and control, plus obscene money, to despotic regimes that hold the West to ransom.
Equally, however, climate change is used by Western regimes to push taxes upon people (carbon tax here) while subsidising useless technologies like wind turbines.
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Yeah last time I checked, the winter in my area was pretty cold. Global Warming? More like Global Cooling lol
warming more like smoreming
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Change is the only constant. What exactly is the fear? And how much will the "solution" cost me in taxes?
It's interesting how Malthusian (the philosophy used by the elites to maintain their privilege for centuries) has reasserted itself. It was discredited by Buckminster Fuller in the 20th century who pointed out that technology was steadily increasing the energy output for the input of limited resources. That we could "advantage all without disadvantaging any". The 'age of rising expectations' was heralded as the end to class privilege and materialist segregation. Of course that philosophy doesn't benefit the elites....
Since the 1980s the elites are in a currency crisis (natural end-cycle result of a debt based un-backed fiat currency), the rise of the unwashed masses coming for revenge (with the elites offering B. Clinton and Obama to provide a temporary cover), and their traditional international world order and privileged status threatened by the rise of non-Western economic powers. Suddenly we see a simultaneous return to the 'age of lowered expectations' with the new climate change movement. In the 1970s it was called the 'ecology' movement. Look it up, notice the similarities of social restructuring and, more importantly, who funded the movement.
The ultimate outcome will be the reassertion that 'the earth is fragile, resources are limited, and there's too many people'. The elites will offer the solution that everyone will have to forego a higher quality of life and economic freedom for the "survival" of the species. The ultimate win of Communism 25 years after it was declared dead.
Don't be fooled brothers. America, and its Bill of Rights/Constitution is the greatest experiment in the history of human freedom. Any "movement" to diminish it's philosophical strength is a movement of the few to control the many.
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Can't take credit for the below, came across it one day when reading about "climate change"
"It would be tragic if medical science adopted the standards that climate science employs. Can you imagine getting a paper cut on your finger and having a doctor announce that you're going to die? He'd base his opinion on your current rate of blood loss, calculating that within a few days you'd go into circulatory collapse. Once the blood stopped flowing by itself he would at first deny that there was any pause in the bleeding. After awhile, he'd go looking for the missing blood and he'd find it in your lungs and your brain and then he'd declare that it was just waiting there until the bleeding resumed. Even though there was now no blood loss occurring, he would insist that his confidence in your demise had actually increased from 90% to 95%. He'd support his findings by pointing to a survey of doctors that showed that 97% of them agreed that blood loss can be fatal and that paper can cause cuts.
His recommended solution would be to inject potassium nitrate into your heart so that your blood would no longer be moving and wouldn't be able to leak out of your body. He'd insist that your heart was unsustainable to begin with and could easily be replaced by a carrot and a bit of string. Once that failed he'd immediately blame lack of funding and fly to Cancun or Bali to meet with 20,000 other doctors, activists and politicians to take money away from everyone with a heart and use the revenue to buy bigger carrots.
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Already heard this bed time story.
1.) Scientists predicted in 2000 that kids would grow up without snow. It was 14 years ago now when UK climate scientists argued that global warming would make snowfall a “a very rare and exciting event”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” Dr. David Viner, a scientist with the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia, told the UK Independent in 2000.
After the wettest winter in 248 years, the UK was hit with snowstorms last week. Last year, the UK’s climate authority predicted that this winter would be drier than usual, with only a 15 percent chance of being wet. They were very wrong.
2.) It’s been 10 years since scientists predicted the “end of skiing” in Scotland. An article from the UK’s Guardian in 2004 quoted scientists and environmentalists predicting the demise of Scotland’s winter sports industry, including more remarks from Dr. David Viner, who had already predicted the end of snow in Britain.
“Unfortunately, it’s just getting too hot for the Scottish ski industry,” said Dr. Viner. “It is very vulnerable to climate change; the resorts have always been marginal in terms of snow and, as the rate of climate change increases, it is hard to see a long-term future.”
“Adam Watson, from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology in Banchory, Aberdeenshire, believes the industry has no more than 20 years left,” the Guardian reported.
Viner and Watson must have been surprised to see the BBC report that Scottish mountains may be their snowiest since 1945.
3.) The Arctic would be “ice-free” by now. “Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 percent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during some of the summer months, could be completely ice-free within the next five to seven years,” Gore said in 2008.
Gore was echoing the predictions made by American scientist Wieslaw Maslowsk in 2007, who said that “you can argue that may be our projection of [an ice-free Arctic by 2013] is already too conservative.”
But in 2013, Arctic sea ice coverage was up 50 percent from 2012 levels. Data from Europe’s Cryosat spacecraft showed that Arctic sea ice coverage was nearly 2,100 cubic miles by the end of this year’s melting season, up from about 1,400 cubic miles during the same time last year.
4.) Environmentalists predicted the end of spring snowfall. In March 2013, the Union of Concerned Scientists predicted that warmer springs would mean declines in snow cover.
“Warmer, earlier springs are a clear signal of a changing climate,” the group said. “March temperatures have grown 2.1 degrees (F) hotter, on average, in the United States since reliable record-keeping began in 1880s. Similarly, the first leaves have started appearing on plants several days earlier than they used to across the country.”
But the record levels of snowfall to hit this year may have caught UCS off guard. On Monday, the U.S. east coast was hit with a massive snowstorm that stretched for 1,300 miles and those in the Baltimore-D.C. area were hit with a 141-year record cold of 4 degrees Fahrenheit on Tuesday morning.
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More AGW non-sense from Live Science, what a surprise, AGW is as un-sceintific as it comes, it's been disproven by every major scientific institution and thousands upon thousands of independent scientists call AGW the anti-science. I remember in the 80's all these alarmists saying that New York will be under 30 stories of water by the early 2000's. Didn't happen, in the 90's they predicted category 5 hurricanes would be hitting our shores en mass by the 2010's, it is now 2014 and we have seen one category 5 in the last five years. They predicted the polar icecaps would be gone by 2015, and yet they are growing. They predicted temperatures climbing by at least 5 degrees every year, we have seen 1 degree rise in temperatures globally in the last 100 years. Alarmists have beat this drum to no end hoping that ignorance would propell their agenda, but now in the age of information one can actually research these studies and find that the ones supporting the claim of AGW are bogus and that there are far more scientists who say that AGW is a political scam than are made public. That said lets end this with some quotes from actual scientists and their findings.
"NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted" - NASA publicized report on remote sensing authored by DR. Roy Spencer
"The science is now all-but-settled on global warming, convincing new evidence demonstrates, but Al Gore, the IPCC and other global warming doomsayers won’t be celebrating. The new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun — not human activities — as the dominant controller of climate on Earth." - CERN statement during a 2011 press conference with the support of over 63 scientists from 17 institutions.
"global warming (now “climate change”) a “new religion”. Its temple is built on grounds of faith rather than scientific foundations." - Ivar Giaever Winner of a Nobel prize in Physics.
“As a scientist who knows the data, I simply can’t accept [the claim that man plays a dominant role in Earth’s climate],” - Jeff Kuhn, University of Hawaii
Now there is also a petition currently signed by more than 31, 070 scientists more than 9.000 of whom have PHD's that says AGW is un-scientific and they neither support it nor condone it's spread. On the other hand the top 100 supporters of AGW are as follows.
Celebrities
Al Gore, B.A. Government (no science degree)
Alanis Morissette, High School Diploma
Bill Maher, B.A. English (no science degree)
Bono (Paul Hewson), High School Diploma
Daryl Hanna, B.F.A. Theater (no science degree)
Ed Begley Jr., High School Diploma
Jackson Browne, High School Diploma
Jon Bon Jovi (John Bongiovi), High School Diploma
Oprah Winfrey, B.A. Speech and Drama (no science degree)
Prince Charles of Whales, B.A. (no science degree)
Sheryl Crow, B.A. Music Education (no science degree)
Sienna Miller, High School Diploma
ABC - Sam Champion, B.A. Broadcast News (no science degree, not a meteorologist)
CBS - Harry Smith, B.A. Communications and Theater (no science degree)
CBS - Katie Couric, B.A. English (no science degree)
CBS - Scott Pelley, College Dropout
NBC - Ann Curry, B.A. Journalism (no science degree)
NBC - Anne Thompson, B.A. American studies (no science degree)
NBC - Matt Lauer. B.A. Communications (no science degree)
NBC - Meredith Vieira, B.A. English (no science degree)
Al Sharpton, College Dropout
Alicia Keys, College Dropout
Alicia Silverstone, High School Dropout
Art Bell, College Dropout
Ben Affleck, College Dropout
Ben Stiller, College Dropout
Billy Jean King, College Dropout
Brad Pitt, College Dropout
Britney Spears, High School Dropout
Bruce Springsteen, College Dropout
Cameron Diaz, High School Dropout
Cindy Crawford, College Dropout
Diane Keaton, College Dropout
Drew Barrymore, High School Dropout
George Clooney, College Dropout
Gwyneth Paltrow, College Dropout
Jason Biggs, College Dropout
Jennifer Connelly, College Dropout
Jessica Simpson, High School Dropout
John Travolta, High School Dropout
Joshua Jackson, High School Dropout
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, College Dropout
Julia Roberts, College Dropout
Kanye West, College Dropout
Keanu Reeves, High School Dropout
Kevin Bacon, High School Dropout
Kiefer Sutherland, High School Dropout
Leonardo DiCaprio, High School Dropout
Lindsay Lohan, High School Dropout
Ludacris (Christopher Bridges), College Dropout
Madonna (Madonna Ciccone), College Dropout
Matt Damon, College Dropout
Matthew Modine, College Dropout
Michael Moore, College Dropout
Nicole Richie, College Dropout
Neve Campbell, High School Dropout
Olivia Newton-John, High School Dropout
Orlando Bloom, High School Dropout
Paris Hilton, High School Dropout
Pierce Brosnan. High School Dropout
Queen Latifah (Dana Elaine Owens), College Dropout
Richard Branson, High School Dropout
Robert Redford, College Dropout
Rosie O'Donnell, College Dropout
Sarah Silverman, College Dropout
Sean Penn, College Dropout
Ted Turner, College Dropout
Tommy Lee (Thomas Lee Bass), High School Dropout
Uma Thurman, High School Dropout
Willie Nelson, High School Dropout
Politicians:
John McCain, B.S. (Graduated 894th out of 899 in his class)
Newt Gingrich, Ph.D. Modern European History (no science degree) (Hypocrite)
Pat Robertson, B.A., J.D., M.A. Divinity (no science degree)
Robert F. Kennedy Jr, B.A. Government, J.D. Law (no science degree, 'recovered' Heroin addict)
Scientists:
Bill Nye, B.S. Mechanical Engineering (Bill Nye the Science Guy)
Gavin Schmidt, B.A. Ph.D. Applied Mathematics (RealClimate.org)
James Hansen, B.A. Physics and Mathematics, M.S. Astronomy, Ph.D. Physics (NASA, Gavin Schmidt's Boss)
James Lovelock, Ph.D. Medicine, D.Sc. Biophysics
Lonnie Thompson, Ph.D. Geological Sciences
Michael Mann, A.B. Applied Math, Physics, M.S. Physics, Ph.D. Geology & Geophysics (RealClimate.org)
Michael Oppenheimer, S.B. Chemistry, Ph.D. Chemical Physics
Richard C. J. Somerville, Ph.D. Meteorology
Steven Schneider, Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering and Plasma Physics
Social Scientists:
Ronald Bailey, B.A. Philosophy and Economics (Science Correspondent, Reason Magazine)
So yeah, follow the paper trail you will find that AGW has fewer scientists supporting it than has standing against it."
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.
Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
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And what exactly, is the solution to stop or slow down global warming? Ah yes, the ceding of more power to governmental institutions and increased taxes to all persons. Good things for guys like Necrosis, our $250 an hour physician from Canada who lives behind barricaded walls in his ivory tower, who wouldn't mind paying a few dollars more.
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And what exactly, is the solution to stop or slow down global warming? Ah yes, the ceding of more power to governmental institutions and increased taxes to all persons. Good things for guys like Necrosis, our $250 an hour physician from Canada who lives behind barricaded walls in his ivory tower, who wouldn't mind paying a few dollars more.
Exactly. It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good. The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.
Same old same old...same old same old... ::)
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Exactly. It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good. The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.
Same old same old...same old same old... ::)
All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.
The liberal mindset as explained in Orwell's "Animal Farm". This allows the redistribution of wealth, property, food, goods and services, you name it. All in the name of "equality" or as they like to call it in today's societal zeitgeist, "fairness". You don't have to work hard to earn anything. If you can't steal it in private like a thief in the night, you can simply rely upon government to steal it in the courts in broad daylight in the name of "fairness".
Yes, this is a generalization of what is going on today, but like pretty much all stereotypes its rooted in the truth. And remember, the only people that don't like the truth are liars.
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Exactly. It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good. The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.
Same old same old...same old same old... ::)
humans can have dangerous ideas, your point is silly. An atomic bomb is created by humans but nih inherent no?
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All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.
The liberal mindset as explained in Orwell's "Animal Farm". This allows the redistribution of wealth, property, food, goods and services, you name it. All in the name of "equality" or as they like to call it in today's societal zeitgeist, "fairness". You don't have to work hard to earn anything. If you can't steal it in private like a thief in the night, you can simply rely upon government to steal it in the courts in broad daylight in the name of "fairness".
Yes, this is a generalization of what is going on today, but like pretty much all stereotypes its rooted in the truth. And remember, the only people that don't like the truth are liars.
There's no redistribution of wealth. The %1 own have more wealth than the %90. And that will only increase, as it will. What nonsense are you putting forward. Oh brother.
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There's no redistribution of wealth. The %1 own have more wealth than the %90. And that will only increase, as it will. What nonsense are you putting forward. Oh brother.
Wait, did you just say there is no redistribution of wealth? Did I miss the context of that statement? Are you serious?
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Exactly. It reinforces the age old axiom that humans are inherently dangerous and must be controlled for their own good. The same justification used by every government, church and tin-pot authority figure since the beginning.
Same old same old...same old same old... ::)
Yes!!
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Wait, did you just say there is no redistribution of wealth? Did I miss the context of that statement? Are you serious?
Pretty sure you're mistaking some money flow for wealth, Coach. There is, and will be no, redistribution of wealth. Rest easy, bro.
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Pretty sure you're mistaking some money flow for wealth, Coach. There is, and will be no, redistribution of wealth. Rest easy, bro.
So raising my taxes and giving to needless and unnecessary "causes" is not redistribution?
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There's also scientists that call complete bullshit on it. Are they less qualified than the ones who made the bullshit up?
Of course not, but that's what science is! It's about progress.You have this warped idea that science never changes. Scientists realize that ideas and theories change over time. They realize that what may be correct one day, may not be correct another day. For some very strange reason, you do not grasp this idea. Its as if there is something stopping you from realizing this. Again, I will say it: SCIENCE IS ABOUT PROGRESS. IDEAS AND THEORIES CHANGE ALL THE TIME! THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CONFLICT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.
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Of course not, but that's what science is! It's about progress.You have this warped idea that science never changes. Scientists realize that ideas and theories change over time. They realize that what may be correct one day, may not be correct another day. For some very strange reason, you do not grasp this idea. Its as if there is something stopping you from realizing this. Again, I will say it: SCIENCE IS ABOUT PROGRESS. IDEAS AND THEORIES CHANGE ALL THE TIME! THERE WILL ALWAYS BE CONFLICT IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.
And some (the left) will use scare tactics to help politicize and agenda for raising taxes.
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/17/climate-change-antarctica-glaciers-melting-global-warming-nasa
past the point of return, it will collapse completely. We are close to being fucked. The ocean is giong to get acidic making shelled fish extinct en masse. The offspring won't be able to form shells, then the shit that relies on those creatures the fish, dolphins, whales will die. But it snowed outside!
in ten years this world will be a far different place.
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So raising my taxes and giving to needless and unnecessary "causes" is not redistribution?
Again, that's money flow. Not wealth accrual. This stuff is Eco 101, Coach. C'mon, now.
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And some (the left) will use scare tactics to help politicize and agenda for raising taxes.
Oh, stop it. Fear mongering is below us. Be that better person.
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And some (the left) will use scare tactics to help politicize and agenda for raising taxes.
Taxes will be a small price for what's coming dude. coastal communities are going to have a tough time in coming years, some have already begun moving whole towns. What is that from?
you deny the globe is heating up despite all the basic facts like temperature readings. Do you have a special plaque for your special retardation?
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Oh, stop it. Fear mongering is below us. Be that better person.
And what is "global warming" or if you prefer, "climate change" if not fear mongering? Apparently it's not below those fostering it. They've reached rock bottom now and have started digging. Oh stop it.
They won't.
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Taxes will be a small price for what's coming dude. coastal communities are going to have a tough time in coming years, some have already begun moving whole towns. What is that from?
you deny the globe is heating up despite all the basic facts like temperature readings. Do you have a special plaque for your special retardation?
Hi Al Gore
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Derp!
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And what is "global warming" or if you prefer, "climate change" if not fear mongering? Apparently it's not below those fostering it. They've reached rock bottom now and have started digging. Oh stop it.
They won't.
stating facts is not fear mongering. Threathening flat earthers with arguments that the world is indeed round is not scare tactics.
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stating facts is not fear mongering. Threathening flat earthers with arguments that the world is indeed round is not scare tactics.
There we supposed facts about the next Ice Age as well ::)
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There was no April 8, 1977 cover of Time Magazine.
There was an April 4, 1977 cover;
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401461.0;attach=565281;image)
and an April 11, 1977 cover.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401461.0;attach=565282;image)
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There we supposed facts about the next Ice Age as well ::)
show me these facts, I know of none. saying they exist doesn't mean shit, please no piece from a guy in his basement taking about seeing your breath outside or some shit.
let's grant that your argument is correct, they were wrong about climate before, that doesn't mean they are wrong now. Do you understand this key point? science isn't one thing or place or group, it's the best ideas with the most support from research.
You also posted fake magazine covers, typical of a dirtbag divorcee.
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stating facts is not fear mongering. Threathening flat earthers with arguments that the world is indeed round is not scare tactics.
BS is bs. Not facts. We're still here. We were supposed to freeeeeeeeeeeeze! We were supposed to drownnn when the polar ice caps melted. We should all be dead from the heat! Or was that the cold...? People are moving entire cities to escape! Ahhhhh....
Riiiiight. You move. You stop using your heating and A/C. Stop driving or even using public transportation. Become amish or menonite or some other candlestick user. No more processed foods for you. No more electricity. No more modern conveniences. None. No cell phones, no internet, no TV, no microwave popcorn, no nothing. Give it all up. Make your own clothes from scratch and grow your own food. Don't you dare harm a flea when you do so, because you never know that flea could be the straw that breaks Mother Nature's back and sends us into the next BS nightmare of a lie. No carbon credits for you.
Riiiiight. You guys are Chicken Little.
As for facts, we're still here. That's a fact. One that probably pisses you off. I'm old enough to remember the first gasoline shortage. What a farce. Follow the money.
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BS is bs. Not facts. We're still here. We were supposed to freeeeeeeeeeeeze! We were supposed to drownnn when the polar ice caps melted. We should all be dead from the heat! Or was that the cold...? People are moving entire cities to escape! Ahhhhh....
Riiiiight. You move. You stop using your heating and A/C. Stop driving or even using public transportation. Become amish or menonite or some other candlestick user. No more processed foods for you. No more electricity. No more modern conveniences. None. No cell phones, no internet, no TV, no microwave popcorn, no nothing. Give it all up. Make your own clothes from scratch and grow your own food. Don't you dare harm a flea when you do so, because you never know that flea could be the straw that breaks Mother Nature's back and sends us into the next BS nightmare of a lie. No carbon credits for you.
Riiiiight. You guys are Chicken Little.
As for facts, we're still here. That's a fact. One that probably pisses you off. I'm old enough to remember the first gasoline shortage. What a farce. Follow the money.
so the fact that humans exist trumps everything for you? no one wants these crazy solutions, tehy won't work in reality, there are options like nuclear for example. even if we divert the damage to a degree it may be fine.
I just don't understand why you are denying basic science? what for? so you are wrong, and those educated on this subject would suggest you are, wouldn't the economic consequences be wroth averting? you want to see the changes with your own eyes? the ice sheet is in collapse, go watch it.
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Disregard the OP, refer to this thread: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=536577.0
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BS is bs. Not facts. We're still here. We were supposed to freeeeeeeeeeeeze! We were supposed to drownnn when the polar ice caps melted. We should all be dead from the heat! Or was that the cold...? People are moving entire cities to escape! Ahhhhh....
Riiiiight. You move. You stop using your heating and A/C. Stop driving or even using public transportation. Become amish or menonite or some other candlestick user. No more processed foods for you. No more electricity. No more modern conveniences. None. No cell phones, no internet, no TV, no microwave popcorn, no nothing. Give it all up. Make your own clothes from scratch and grow your own food. Don't you dare harm a flea when you do so, because you never know that flea could be the straw that breaks Mother Nature's back and sends us into the next BS nightmare of a lie. No carbon credits for you.
Riiiiight. You guys are Chicken Little.
As for facts, we're still here. That's a fact. One that probably pisses you off. I'm old enough to remember the first gasoline shortage. What a farce. Follow the money.
That's usually foolproof. I'd suggest 'listen to the science.' They will be the canaries in the GW coalmine. Big business will always screw you. Yes, you. ;)
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so the fact that humans exist trumps everything for you? no one wants these crazy solutions, tehy won't work in reality, there are options like nuclear for example. even if we divert the damage to a degree it may be fine.
I just don't understand why you are denying basic science? what for? so you are wrong, and those educated on this subject would suggest you are, wouldn't the economic consequences be wroth averting? you want to see the changes with your own eyes? the ice sheet is in collapse, go watch it.
I don't deny "basic science", I just refuse to go along with bullshit. As I said and you will doubtless avoid (as well should any civilized person) let those that cry such dribble give up all, go live in a cave and live in primitive poverty to save the planet ! Lead by example, not by words.
Example time -
These scientists are like so many false pastors. Not prophets but in it for profit. "Give 'til it hurts and then give some more!" Or perhaps "Give up everything so that you will have all at the end of all things!"
And all the while these worthless ministers live in comfort. As for those who are educated, well...Jesus of Nazareth was not an educated man and the religious scholars of His time made a point of this. It doesn't take a degree to know the truth. Follow the money.
I have christian friends that every once in a while will scream "The SIGNS are here! The END is coming!" No different really than what some scientists do. The reality of it is this: They're just adding to the noise. I'm with John on that one. There's more than a few here that would likely agree with him.
I expect to see on the news that you've started a eco-friendly commune. No electricity, no internet, no creature comforts, just raw foods and hand loomed clothes. Let me know how that goes.
As for me and mine, well we don't wish to wear your clothes. You do it. You and others of your faith prove your worth by living your beliefs. I won't hold my breath.
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That's usually foolproof. I'd suggest 'listen to the science.' They will be the canaries in the GW coalmine. Big business will always screw you. Yes, you. ;)
The canaries died. I don't think any scientist is going to sacrifice himself or his livelihood in the name of his belief in this stuff. Early Christians died for their beliefs but fortunately no one is condemning these scientists. First off, they don't live their faith as did early Christians and secondly, they wouldn't die for it, again, as early Christians did.
Big business used to shill outside the temples, now they own the temples.
Be well.
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I don't deny "basic science", I just refuse to go along with bullshit. As I said and you will doubtless avoid (as well should any civilized person) let those that cry such dribble give up all, go live in a cave and live in primitive poverty to save the planet ! Lead by example, not by words.
Example time -
These scientists are like so many false pastors. Not prophets but in it for profit. "Give 'til it hurts and then give some more!" Or perhaps "Give up everything so that you will have all at the end of all things!"
And all the while these worthless ministers live in comfort. As for those who are educated, well...Jesus of Nazareth was not an educated man and the religious scholars of His time made a point of this. It doesn't take a degree to know the truth. Follow the money.
I have christian friends that every once in a while will scream "The SIGNS are here! The END is coming!" No different really than what some scientists do. The reality of it is this: They're just adding to the noise. I'm with John on that one. There's more than a few here that would likely agree with him.
I expect to see on the news that you've started a eco-friendly commune. No electricity, no internet, no creature comforts, just raw foods and hand loomed clothes. Let me know how that goes.
As for me and mine, well we don't wish to wear your clothes. You do it. You and others of your faith prove your worth by living your beliefs. I won't hold my breath.
you are creating this massive strawman, that I want civilization to stop, posing it as the only option and then acting like you are participating in this discussion. If you want to talk science and facts lets do that, but the above is a period induced emotion fest.