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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Army of One on March 07, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
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isnt looking good :'(
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/07/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane-missing/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
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Damn :-\
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pip :'( Hope no getbiggers were on a business trip to Malaysia.
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Ironmiester, please photoshop musclecenter giving the thumbs up from a aero plane window?
Seriously though, that sucks. CSIP
ChopStick in Peace
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Air disaster of peace ??? >:(
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Sad story :(
so does it mean that they have failed to target the trump tower?
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I bet it's an Airbus... :-X
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Female Pilot ???
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Those names sound muslim. Nah.... It couldnt be.
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Time to ban Asian pilots
(http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Asian-pilots-names-.jpg)
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:'(
(http://i62.tinypic.com/21epwqp.jpg)
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Did any of the passengers even lift?
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(http://i62.tinypic.com/21epwqp.jpg)
(http://www.notyourparentslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Screen-Shot-2013-11-12-at-2.44.59-PM.png)
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All getbig aside, dying on a plane crash has to be fucking scary as shit , PIP
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I bet it's an Airbus... :-X
boeing 777
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I bet it's an Airbus... :-X
Nope. Boeing again.
Their planes have really been in problems on all fronts recently. Especially the "dreamliner".
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So is everone looking past the pilot's names?
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So is everone looking past the pilot's names?
Cap. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, a Malaysian
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Two passengers confirmed to be traveling with stolen passports. Both were stolen a year/two ago in Thailand. Payback to Chinese cracking down on Moslems in their Western Provonce? Hmmmmmm?
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Cap. Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, a Malaysian
Both names of the pilots sound muslim. He may be Malaysian, but could have converted to islam.
In these times, it really cant be overlooked.
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Both names of the pilots sound muslim. He may be Malaysian, but could have converted to islam.
In these times, it really cant be overlooked.
I thought Maylasia was primarily Muslim...
or is that Indonesia?
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I thought Maylasia was primarily Muslim...
or is that Indonesia?
Idontknowsa
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Passenger 57 of peace. Always bet on black.
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boeing 777
oops, I'm shocked, my bad, airbus....this Boeing Model has a Great safety record......I doubt it's a mechanical problem....hopefully they can find that Blackbox.....shit
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Nope. Boeing again.
Their planes have really been in problems on all fronts recently. Especially the "dreamliner".
damn, I've had so much confidence in Boeing.....I'm anxious to know what brought this Triple 7 down.....this model has been one of the safety from most boeing models
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Passenger 57 of peace. Always bet on black.
Not a bad movie overall, but that line was so contrived and weak.
Men of the antagonist's caliber play either baccarat or poker (blackjack when they are slummin') at casinos...people in plaid shorts who live in trailer parks play roulette...mainly because it reminds them of the prize wheel on The Price Is Right.
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I thought Maylasia was primarily Muslim...
or is that Indonesia?
Both; The majority of folks in Malaysia are Muslims and an even larger percentage in Indonesia are as well.
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(http://whofortedblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/airplane_ufo_maneuver-1024x768.jpeg)
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All I am saying, is dont rule out the possibility of a terrorist attack.
They are metal coffins.
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Watch the series lost if you guys want to know what happened to the plane.
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Not a bad movie overall, but that line was so contrived and weak.
Men of the antagonist's caliber play either baccarat or poker (blackjack when they are slummin') at casinos...people in plaid shorts who live in trailer parks play roulette...mainly because it reminds them of the prize wheel on The Price Is Right.
Do-do-do-do... "Ohhhhhh, you didn't get it.
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pip :'( Hope no getbiggers were on a business trip to Malaysia.
With 90% chronically unemployed or unemployable, I wouldn't worry
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2 of the passenger were using stolen passports
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Locked Steel CockPit doors ::)
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They found a 14 mile long oil slick, so looks as though the plane is down swimming with the fishes.
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Both names of the pilots sound muslim. He may be Malaysian, but could have converted to islam.
In these times, it really cant be overlooked.
There are many Muslims in Malaysia.
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Both names of the pilots sound muslim. He may be Malaysian, but could have converted to islam.
In these times, it really cant be overlooked.
Here is captain Saharie Shahs youtube channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/catalinapby1/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/catalinapby1/videos)
A few of his favorited videos are about athiesm:
"Seth macfarlane on atheism and gay rights"
"Atheist Michael Newdow Intellectually Demolishes Arrogant Moron on Fox News."
"The God Delusion"
It seems like he may be athiest or at least open minded.
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The latest news is that the plane may have disintegrated in mid-air (bomb)
They are also not ruling out a hijacking.
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The latest news is that the plane may have disintegrated in mid-air (bomb)
They are also not ruling out a hijacking.
5 bucks says it's members of the 'Religion of Peace' responsible.
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5 bucks says it's members of the 'Religion of Peace' responsible.
There were two stolen passports on that plane. Where was Interpol?
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The plane went over the Bermuda Triangle.
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there is also 2 other passengers that are being investigated, but have not said why yet
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there is also 2 other passengers that are being investigated, but have not said why yet
It would not surprise me at all. Terrorists view planes as a one stop, kill shop.
The U.S. found this out the hard way. Now, I think terrorists are too afraid to try anything in the U.S. for the forseeable future.
Terrorists just go to the next available opportunity. Remember the attacks on India in 2008?
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the only reasonable question to ask is how will the sweatshop market be effected due to a drop in work force.
Brazilian Jui-Jitsus knock-off designer goods will be harder to come by.
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There were two stolen passports on that plane. Where was Interpol?
They only have the ability to 'flag' a passport if it's specifically asked for. Otherwise it's just another stolen thing in a 3rd world shithole . I've traveled with a passport a year out of date. 95% of the time I travel my passport don't get scanned or properly inspected. When I went to Greece towards the end of last year the immigration officer never even checked my Bio Page. I could've used my grandma's passport for all they knew.
But I don't think the stolen passport's prove anything per se, loads of scum travel to Europe on stolen passports to work or sit on a heap claiming free shit. Usually to sit on a heap claiming free shit. Work, not so much. Another problem is that poorer EU states' corruption would make Robert Mugagbe appear like a saint. It's easier to get a Portuguese or Italian passport than it is to buy bread.
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It would not surprise me at all. Terrorists view planes as a one stop, kill shop.
The U.S. found this out the hard way. Now, I think terrorists are too afraid to try anything in the U.S. for the forseeable future.
Terrorists just go to the next available opportunity. Remember the attacks on India in 2008?
yes, but the plane, airline or passengers had nothing to do with the US. It couldn't have been aimed at the US doing this. Unless they just kill for the sake of killing. Kill themselves for the sake of downing a few Chinese mums and pops.
And no group came forward to claim responsibility. Usual these insects fall over each other to claim a win.
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yes, but the plane, airline or passengers had nothing to do with the US. It couldn't have been aimed at the US doing this. Unless they just kill for the sake of killing. Kill themselves for the sake of downing a few Chinese mums and pops.
And no group came forward to claim responsibility. Usual these insects fall over each other to claim a win.
I agree it had nothing to do with the US. They just like to kill people.
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They got lost in the Bermuda Triangle.
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flight was bound for China, same group of people that did the Knife attacks in china a couple days ago???
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/china-s-top-judge-vows-severe-punishment-for-knife-attack-that-left-29-dead-1.1721817 (http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/china-s-top-judge-vows-severe-punishment-for-knife-attack-that-left-29-dead-1.1721817)
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Where is that fucking plane? They have not found one single piece of that thing.
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Where is that fucking plane? They have not found one single piece of that thing.
In your sister's ass.
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Where is that fucking plane? They have not found one single piece of that thing.
The greatest magic trick? How to make a Boeing 777 disappear, and nobody can find it.
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The greatest magic trick? How to make a Boeing 777 disappear, and nobody can find it.
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Except they did it in mid air...something I bet David Cooperfield is probably trying to figure out for his next trick.
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(http://www.notyourparentslife.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Screen-Shot-2013-11-12-at-2.44.59-PM.png)
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Locked Steel CockPit doors ::)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kQl-jLIKoMc/Ud4XNveiIDI/AAAAAAAADYE/2ZMnwm3AHIM/s1600/blogger-image--167572198.jpg)
Would love to be that Primary Flight Display... :P
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Interesting, there's a guy on twitter who is supposedly in with aviation world, he is saying the theory behind closed doors is that the crew were in on this, along with hijackers onboard, turned off the transponders, flew low below radar and landed the plane somewhere.
https://mobile.twitter.com/flyingwithfish
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If that's the case , they will get millions for each passenger held hostage
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Fuel leak that went undetected causing a massive instant explosion, two hours into a nine hour flight they would have had a large amount of fuel, which would have limited debris but you would think there would have to be some even if it occurred at 35000 feet somewhere.
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Fuel leak that went undetected causing a massive instant explosion, two hours into a nine hour flight they would have had a large amount of fuel, which would have limited debris but you would think there would have to be some even if it occurred at 35000 feet somewhere.
There was no explosion, USA has tech to see explosion of that kind of size anywhere on earth, they scanned their systems for the region and nothing has shown up.If it blew up apparently it would have been seen.If the plane broke apart their would be debris, if it hit the water at any speed seismic detectors would have picked it up, none did.a catastrophe that takes out all tracking equipment on the plane is extremely unlikely.Sonar isnt picking up shit.The guy on twitter above is releasing info that is proving correct BEFORE news stations, he is saying that most think its a hijack and the plane has landed somewhere.
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There was no explosion, USA has tech to see explosion of that kind of size anywhere on earth, they scanned their systems for the region and nothing has shown up.If it blew up apparently it would have been seen.If the plane broke apart their would be debris, if it hit the water at any speed seismic detectors would have picked it up, none did.a catastrophe that takes out all tracking equipment on the plane is extremely unlikely.Sonar isnt picking up shit.The guy on twitter above is releasing info that is proving correct BEFORE news stations, he is saying that most think its a hijack and the plane has landed somewhere.
That's what I'm wondering about...
We have hundreds of satellites that can read license plates around the globe. Can they trace the plane from departure? Do these satellites save recordings? Surely hundred million dollar satellites have the capability?
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Go to where you last saw it on radar and look down!
Weird shit, This will fuel the tin foil hat crowd for a while.
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Has tbombz anus been searched yet?
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Has tbombz anus been searched yet?
The Coast Guard just boarded it.
the have already recovered multiple hamsters, gerbils, 1 albatross and 648 skittles.
but alas, no chinamen.
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The Coast Guard just boarded it.
the have already recovered multiple hamsters, gerbils, 1 albatross and 648 skittles.
but alas, no chinamen.
Good work.
what colour were the skittles?
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Good work.
what colour were the skittles?
they were promotional skittles.
might be worth some money still.
(http://www.collectingcandy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/CC_Skittles-Seatle-Mix-promotional-image-February-2014.jpg)
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Go to where you last saw it on radar and look down!
Weird shit, This will fuel the tin foil hat crowd for a while.
Wasn't he last saw in the sea?
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There was no explosion, USA has tech to see explosion of that kind of size anywhere on earth, they scanned their systems for the region and nothing has shown up. If it blew up apparently it would have been seen. If the plane broke apart their would be debris, if it hit the water at any speed seismic detectors would have picked it up, none did. a catastrophe that takes out all tracking equipment on the plane is extremely unlikely. Sonar isnt picking up shit. The guy on twitter above is releasing info that is proving correct BEFORE news stations, he is saying that most think its a hijack and the plane has landed somewhere.
That seems most plausible at this point in time.
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Where is musclecenter? ???
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Where is musclecenter? ???
Huang's not Malaysian.
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Cause I'm leavin' on a jet plane
Don't know when I'll be back again
Oh baby, I hate to go
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So they can track a iphone and find your car but cant find a billion dollar plane.
I wish they don't find it.
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So they can track a iphone and find your car but cant find a billion dollar plane.
I wish they don't find it.
This doesn't bode well for other flights to to and from that destination.
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This doesn't bode well for other flights to to and from that destination.
Bro, I fly all the time, it gets boring landing safely everytime, wouldn't mind a hijacking here and there, I can throw in "Lets Roll" and be a dead hero.
Air france was missing for a few months I think before they found it, it was still profitable (meaning they still had passengers) so I think Malaysian airlines will still be OK. Fact is shit happens.
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Bro, I fly all the time, it gets boring landing safely everytime, wouldn't mind a hijacking here and there, I can throw in "Lets Roll" and be a dead hero.
Air france was missing for a few months I think before the found it, it was still profitable (meaning they still had passengers) so I think Malaysian airlines will still be OK. Fact is shit happens.
"Qantas, never crashed"...
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There was no explosion, USA has tech to see explosion of that kind of size anywhere on earth, they scanned their systems for the region and nothing has shown up.If it blew up apparently it would have been seen.If the plane broke apart their would be debris, if it hit the water at any speed seismic detectors would have picked it up, none did.a catastrophe that takes out all tracking equipment on the plane is extremely unlikely.Sonar isnt picking up shit.The guy on twitter above is releasing info that is proving correct BEFORE news stations, he is saying that most think its a hijack and the plane has landed somewhere.
check your facts. Air France flight a few years ago. Took months to find the wreckage and two years to close the case
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Lol, the plane is in the ocean. That's not me laughing about a plane crash, just that people think it didn't crash. They found oil slicks in the water in it's flight path. I'm sure that in time they will find some debris, and all will be brought to light.
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Im sure they know where the plane is, there just trying to get the story straight.
Too many grieving families and lawsuits to deal with.
They know where it is.
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pip :'( Hope no getbiggers were on a business trip to Malaysia.
did you forget?
private jets?
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It's said family members are calling the cell phones of the missing passengers, and the phones are ringing but nobody answers.
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It's said family members are calling the cell phones of the missing passengers, and the phones are ringing but nobody answers.
"I can't talk right now. Im busy swimming."
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Ok here's my theory (get your tin hats, and religious hatred ready fellas...)
Most christians believe that before Jesus returns to judge the earth (the second coming) there will something called 'The Rapture' (a name not biblical but alluded to).
Basically true believers will be extracted from the earth in the blink of an eye, to meet with Jesus in the air.
The AntiChrist will need a way to explain millions of people just dissapearing, so will probably use theories such as mass alien abduction to get peoples attention away from the bible propechy - crazy right!!!
Not if you've prepared the ground correctly, you know, the odd plane here and there for a few years, maybe a coach load of people that can't be found/explained......
The poor passengers are probably dead somewhere in a disused airfield in Vietnam, while the aircraft is being carefully disposed of.
'Alien abduction' number 1 folks.
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Ok here's my theory (get your tin hats, and religious hatred ready fellas...)
Most christians believe that before Jesus returns to judge the earth (the second coming) there will something called 'The Rapture' (a name not biblical but alluded to).
Basically true believers will be extracted from the earth in the blink of an eye, to meet with Jesus in the air.
The AntiChrist will need a way to explain millions of people just dissapearing, so will probably use theories such as mass alien abduction to get peoples attention away from the bible propechy - crazy right!!!
Not if you've prepared the ground correctly, you know, the odd plane here and there for a few years, maybe a coach load of people that can't be found/explained......
The poor passengers are probably dead somewhere in a disused airfield in Vietnam, while the aircraft is being carefully disposed of.
'Alien abduction' number 1 folks.
are you trolling
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are you trolling
There's no time for trolling bigmc, my family are in the basement now and i'm desperately trying to premix 20 years worth of protein shakes for us all
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There's no time for trolling bigmc, my family are in the basement now and i'm desperately trying to premix 20 years worth of protein shakes for us all
haha
I wish I believed
must be a great comfort to think that next time you go on a package holiday
you could be buying a one way ticket upstairs
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Idontknowsa
Best Shitzo post ever.
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Best Shitzo post ever.
Yes, one word is much easier to ignore ;D
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check your facts. Air France flight a few years ago. Took months to find the wreckage and two years to close the case
Check YOUR facts, Some Air France 447 wreckage and and oil slick was found a day after the crash, 5 days later 2 bodies from the crash were found, 6 days later they found the planes vertical stabiliser.The aircraft also sent ACARS messages as it was crashing, giving the folks on the ground some idea of why it crashed immediately.Nothing like this case.
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haha
I wish I believed
must be a great comfort to think that next time you go on a package holiday
you could be buying a one way ticket upstairs
Same here. My mom is what I call a bit of a religious nut. She is okay with the fact of dying, and believes she will see her parents. No amount of talking to her changes her mind either. Sometimes I wonder if brainwashing myself into that thought process would make life easier. :-\
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Same here. My mom is what I call a bit of a religious nut. She is okay with the fact of dying, and believes she will see her parents. No amount of talking to her changes her mind either. Sometimes I wonder if brainwashing myself into that thought process would make life easier. :-\
You have any evidence to prove her wrong? I thought so.
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You have any evidence to prove her wrong? I thought so.
It's all based on faith, or lack thereof either way you look at it.
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It's all based on faith, or lack thereof either way you look at it.
You have no clue as to what faith is do you?
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You have no clue as to what faith is do you?
Convert me
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Convert me
Ask Man of Steel your fellow Satanist in Antichrist.
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I havent been following this... but theyre trying to say this and vanished, without a tracs, its all the fancy avionics and electronics uodated in real time to track a olane from its origin to its destination?
yeah, ok... I havr a bridge to sell you in my backyard.
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check your facts. Air France flight a few years ago. Took months to find the wreckage and two years to close the case
Incorrect. It took time to find and recover the black boxes. They found wreckage with 72 hours. lots of wreckage.
". . . While Brazilian authorities were able to locate the first major wreckage within three days of the accident, initial investigation was hampered. . . "
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Ok here's my theory (get your tin hats, and religious hatred ready fellas...)
Most christians believe that before Jesus returns to judge the earth (the second coming) there will something called 'The Rapture' (a name not biblical but alluded to).
Basically true believers will be extracted from the earth in the blink of an eye, to meet with Jesus in the air.
The AntiChrist will need a way to explain millions of people just dissapearing, so will probably use theories such as mass alien abduction to get peoples attention away from the bible propechy - crazy right!!!
Not if you've prepared the ground correctly, you know, the odd plane here and there for a few years, maybe a coach load of people that can't be found/explained......
The poor passengers are probably dead somewhere in a disused airfield in Vietnam, while the aircraft is being carefully disposed of.
'Alien abduction' number 1 folks.
COOL SCRIPT FOR A MOVIE..
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I'm read at CNN that the transponder was not working (turned off intentionally or it broke) and the plane was flying several hundred miles off course.
Do you think that fighter jets shot it down?
Maybe fighter jets tried to make contact with it and shot it down when passenger jet didn't respond.
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I'm read at CNN that the transponder was not working (turned off intentionally or it broke) and the plane was flying several hundred miles off course.
Do you think that fighter jets shot it down?
Maybe fighter jets tried to make contact with it and shot it down when passenger jet didn't respond.
(http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2013/02/12/kim122way-b498fda00cd3d7f6b572743dc45202c69cf3947f-s6-c30.jpg)
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They will find the black box. I was listening to NPR today and I think they said only one hasn't been found since 1972. Even one that was thousands of feet below the ocean. They said it was possible, but highly improbably that it did anything other than crash.
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Defective outsourced wings with cracks in them?
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They will find the black box. I was listening to NPR today and I think they said only one hasn't been found since 1972. Even one that was thousands of feet below the ocean. They said it was possible, but highly improbably that it did anything other than crash.
these black boxes emit their signals under water for 30 days before going silent....hopefully, they can get to that one before this month is over.....but in the case of the airfrance flight 447 that crashed on it's way to paris from brazil back in 2009, they didn't recover that black box until almost two years later from the ocean floor, I guess you can't miss a Bright orange color object easily........I'm surprised these bodies or any debris hasn't floated yet......this is becoming one of the most challenging plane crash search and recovery in recent memory
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more up to date information is stored online on twitter about a dumb slut crank head in albuquerque new mexico then a mulit million dollar jet plane and its precious cargo
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these black boxes emit their signals under water for 30 days before going silent....hopefully, they can get to that one before this month is over.....but in the case of the airfrance flight 447 that crashed on it's way to paris from brazil back in 2009, they didn't recover that black box until almost two years later from the ocean floor, I guess you can't miss a Bright orange color object easily........I'm surprised these bodies or any debris hasn't floated yet......this is becoming one of the most challenging plane crash search and recovery in recent memory
Honeywell needs to add a tracking system to go along with the emitting signals.
Would make it easier.
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Honeywell needs to add a tracking system to go along with the emitting signals.
Would make it easier.
exactly...some people are now saying the blackbox technology is outdated and they need to upgrade this very soon....but, I'm sure the airlines will say that it will cost them Millions and that's too much
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exactly...some people are now saying the blackbox technology is outdated and they need to upgrade this very soon....but, I'm sure the airlines will say that it will cost them Millions and that's too much
Honeywell probably works on the statistics, someone said 99.9% of planes are found.
Its definately outdated, it would cost many millions to engineer a gps tracking system to find a plane full of bodies.
They should give passengers parachutes, when that plane is going down, open that exit door and jump out like Rambo did in Rambo 2....though he got hung up.
I love how the media creates news instead of reporting it "the phones of the passengers are still ringing" get the fuck out of here.
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exactly...some people are now saying the blackbox technology is outdated and they need to upgrade this very soon....but, I'm sure the airlines will say that it will cost them Millions and that's too much
Like Ed Norton in Fight Club, where he is talking about the car manufacturer he works for, and they weigh the cost of a lawsuit versus the cost of a recall. Capitalism baby!
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Honeywell needs to add a tracking system to go along with the emitting signals.
Would make it easier.
Odd how the black boxes in many cars can tell how fast you were going, how long, fuel mileage, what you were doing with the car (drag racing) and in some cars, know which track you were at...
And the GPS systems put on Bieber's rented Gallardo could tell where he was at what time, speed, etc.
I don't know what the black boxes on planes can do...
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Like Ed Norton in Fight Club, where he is talking about the car manufacturer he works for, and they weigh the cost of a lawsuit versus the cost of a recall. Capitalism baby!
and now look at GM.
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Odd how the black boxes in many cars can tell how fast you were going, how long, fuel mileage, what you were doing with the car (drag racing) and in some cars, know which track you were at...
And the GPS systems put on Bieber's rented Gallardo could tell where he was at what time, speed, etc.
I don't know what the black boxes on planes can do...
rented, damn.
cant they track there so called ringing phones.
have they found any debris or just a long oil slick?
how does this work legally, does Malaysian sue Boeing, does Boeing blame Malaysian airlines maintenance, do families have a right to sue?
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Odd how the black boxes in many cars can tell how fast you were going, how long, fuel mileage, what you were doing with the car (drag racing) and in some cars, know which track you were at...
And the GPS systems put on Bieber's rented Gallardo could tell where he was at what time, speed, etc.
I don't know what the black boxes on planes can do...
haahahha......blackboxes on airplanes has been one of the best invention in aviations...these suckers can stand a 2000 degree fire for 1hr before they completely destroyed and according to the statistics from FAA, the last 100 plane crashes dating back to 1979, black boxes have been able to help solve and answered many problems, issues......black boxes can tell the speed, altitude, behaviors and all that stuff.....if they can find the black box from this latest plane crash, they can tell if the plane broke up while falling or if it crashes in one piece and what I like the most is that the flight data recorder can tell what or if the pilots took any actions before the crash or if they had time to react at all......it's been a great invention, but the technology needs to improve and I'm sure after this latest catastrophe, there will be improvements
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We know more about Justin Biebers Drag racing in Miami than we do about this plane missing
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What we need is TA copy and pasting false info from other sites here like he did for the Boston bombings. That is the only way we can solve this mystery.
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What we need is TA copy and pasting false info from other sites here like he did for the Boston bombings. That is the only way we can solve this mystery.
Like Big Willy's bombings in your wife's eager mouth? :P
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haahahha......blackboxes on airplanes has been one of the best invention in aviations...these suckers can stand a 2000 degree fire for 1hr before they completely destroyed and according to the statistics from FAA, the last 100 plane crashes dating back to 1979, black boxes have been able to help solve and answered many problems, issues......black boxes can tell the speed, altitude, behaviors and all that stuff.....if they can find the black box from this latest plane crash, they can tell if the plane broke up while falling or if it crashes in one piece and what I like the most is that the flight data recorder can tell what or if the pilots took any actions before the crash or if they had time to react at all......it's been a great invention, but the technology needs to improve and I'm sure after this latest catastrophe, there will be improvements
In this day and age why arent black boxes sending that info in real time to a server somewhere......effective ly making the actual "box" obsolete ??? ???
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some think its terror related, most likely Chinese..
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maybe the plane is just hiding because it's plane wife wouldn't get off its back. Think that might be it? Maybe it just needed to get away for a while. ;D
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That plane is fucking enormous. I don't care if it exploded at 35,000 feet going 500 miles per hour. There should be a huge debris field somewhere- if it crashed.
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Like Big Willy's bombings in your wife's eager mouth? :P
Worst. Gimmick. Ever.
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Bearing in mind the Black boxes always survive, why dont they make the planes out of the same material as the black box?
No one ever killed and planes always in one peice.
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Bearing in mind the Black boxes always survive, why dont they make the planes out of the same material as the black box?
No one ever killed and planes always in one peice.
to heavy brother, also to expensive.
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to heavy brother, also to expensive.
Rocket boosters and cost shouldnt come before peoples lives.
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Rocket boosters and cost shouldnt come before peoples lives.
depends on the people.
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depends on the people.
exactly.
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Rocket boosters and cost shouldnt come before peoples lives.
Sorry, profit comes first, its not plausible for airlines to make there planes out of that material, Im not saying its not possible, but each flight would probably cost $25000 when its costing $300 now.
I cant be bothered to check what material is used for black boxes but I guarantee they cant make a plane out of it.
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Why can't they track the GPS on the cell phones on board or triangulate them?
Washington Post article said lots of the phones ring when you call them, and still appear to be connected to their network.
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One of the most eerie rumors came after a few relatives said they were able to call the cellphones of their loved ones or find them on a Chinese instant messenger service called QQ that indicated that their phones were still somehow online.
A migrant worker in the room said that several other workers from his company were on the plane, including his brother-in-law. Among them, the QQ accounts of three still showed that they were online, he said Sunday afternoon.
Adding to the mystery, other relatives in the room said that when they dialed some passengers’ numbers, they seemed to get ringing tones on the other side even though the calls were not picked up.
The phantom calls triggered a new level of desperation and anger for some. They tried repeatedly Sunday and Monday to ask airline and police officials about the ringing calls and QQ accounts. However unlikely it was, many thought the phones might still be on, and that if authorities just tracked them down, their relatives might be found. But they were largely ignored.
According to Singapore’s Strait Times, a Malaysia Airlines official, Hugh Dunleavy, told families that the company had tried calling mobile phones of crew members as well and that they had also rang. The company turned over those phone numbers to Chinese authorities.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vanished-malaysia-airlines-flight-leaves-relatives-with-anger-and-phantom-phone-calls/2014/03/10/fdb78642-a862-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html
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One of the most eerie rumors came after a few relatives said they were able to call the cellphones of their loved ones or find them on a Chinese instant messenger service called QQ that indicated that their phones were still somehow online.
A migrant worker in the room said that several other workers from his company were on the plane, including his brother-in-law. Among them, the QQ accounts of three still showed that they were online, he said Sunday afternoon.
Adding to the mystery, other relatives in the room said that when they dialed some passengers’ numbers, they seemed to get ringing tones on the other side even though the calls were not picked up.
The phantom calls triggered a new level of desperation and anger for some. They tried repeatedly Sunday and Monday to ask airline and police officials about the ringing calls and QQ accounts. However unlikely it was, many thought the phones might still be on, and that if authorities just tracked them down, their relatives might be found. But they were largely ignored.
According to Singapore’s Strait Times, a Malaysia Airlines official, Hugh Dunleavy, told families that the company had tried calling mobile phones of crew members as well and that they had also rang. The company turned over those phone numbers to Chinese authorities.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vanished-malaysia-airlines-flight-leaves-relatives-with-anger-and-phantom-phone-calls/2014/03/10/fdb78642-a862-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html
lol such bs
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lol such bs
Big time.
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One of the most eerie rumors came after a few relatives said they were able to call the cellphones of their loved ones or find them on a Chinese instant messenger service called QQ that indicated that their phones were still somehow online.
A migrant worker in the room said that several other workers from his company were on the plane, including his brother-in-law. Among them, the QQ accounts of three still showed that they were online, he said Sunday afternoon.
Adding to the mystery, other relatives in the room said that when they dialed some passengers’ numbers, they seemed to get ringing tones on the other side even though the calls were not picked up.
The phantom calls triggered a new level of desperation and anger for some. They tried repeatedly Sunday and Monday to ask airline and police officials about the ringing calls and QQ accounts. However unlikely it was, many thought the phones might still be on, and that if authorities just tracked them down, their relatives might be found. But they were largely ignored.
According to Singapore’s Strait Times, a Malaysia Airlines official, Hugh Dunleavy, told families that the company had tried calling mobile phones of crew members as well and that they had also rang. The company turned over those phone numbers to Chinese authorities.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/vanished-malaysia-airlines-flight-leaves-relatives-with-anger-and-phantom-phone-calls/2014/03/10/fdb78642-a862-11e3-b61e-8051b8b52d06_story.html
How, in the 21st century, in this world of information, are we still buying into crap like this? On a side note, would love to be that ring tone.
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Sorry, profit comes first, its not plausible for airlines to make there planes out of that material, Im not saying its not possible, but each flight would probably cost $25000 when its costing $300 now.
I cant be bothered to check what material is used for black boxes but I guarantee they cant make a plane out of it.
Lol, I think shes pulling your pisser.
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Lol, I think shes pulling your pisser.
maybe maybe not, I asked that same question years ago, so I felt that I needed to answer whether it was a joke.
its all good.
Im flying to Miami soon..may take more Xanax then usual this time round.
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lol such bs
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maybe maybe not, I asked that same question years ago, so I felt that I needed to answer whether it was a joke.
its all good.
Im flying to Miami soon..may take more Xanax then usual this time round.
I have/had to take Xanax, and believe it or not, I went to a hypnotherapist before my last flight and it made it okay. I didn't "go to sleep", but did some repetition exercises and cognitive therapy and it really helped. Didn't have to take the Xanax and was able to actually read a book.
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There is a reason these people are being ignored
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I have/had to take Xanax, and believe it or not, I went to a hypnotherapist before my last flight and it made it okay. I didn't "go to sleep", but did some repetition exercises and cognitive therapy and it really helped. Didn't have to take the Xanax and was able to actually read a book.
I may consider that, I struggle to sleep on airlines, business class included, I hate taking that shit, but fuck it, its one pill going there and one going back.
do you mind sharing a few tips with me?
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I may consider that, I struggle to sleep on airlines, business class included, I hate taking that shit, but fuck it, its one pill going there and one going back.
do you mind sharing a few tips with me?
;D
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so it sounds like they think they found debris from the plane---just watching the news now
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so it sounds like they think they found debris from the plane---just watching the news now
I wonder if this is another false alarm?
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I hope no bodybuilders were on this flight. RIP to anyone with 16 + inch arms - only if ripped though.
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USA is now saying it flew on for nearly 4 hours due to the engine data, which I believe comes from rolls Royce health monitoring of all the engines they sell, so the transponder goes off then flies for 4 hours, def hijacking.The report is from the Wall Street journal, and the reporter is known as the best aviation journalist out there.
"U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.
The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.
Boeing officials and a Malaysia Airlines official declined to comment.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.
Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.
Earlier Wednesday, frustrations over the protracted search for the missing plane mounted as both China and Vietnam vented their anger over what they viewed as poor coordination of the effort.
Government conflicts and national arguments over crises are hardly unique to the Flight 370 situation, but some air-safety experts said they couldn't recall another recent instance of governments publicly feuding over search procedures during the early phase of an international investigation.
Authorities radically expanded the size of the search zone Wednesday, which already was proving a challenge to cover effectively, but the mission hadn't turned up much by the end of the fifth day.
Also on Wednesday, a Chinese government website posted images from Chinese satellites showing what it said were three large objects floating in an 8-square-mile area off the southern tip of Vietnam. The objects were discovered on Sunday , according to the website, which didn't say whether the objects had been recovered or examined.
Ten countries were helping to scour the seas around Malaysia, including China, the U.S. and Vietnam. Taiwanese vessels are expected to be on the scene by Friday, with India and Japan having also agreed to join the search soon.
In all, 56 surface ships were taking part in the search, according to statements issued by the contributing governments, with Malaysia providing 27 of them. In addition, 30 fixed-wing aircraft were also searching, with at least 10 shipboard helicopters available, mostly in the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam.
China's government was especially aggrieved. More than 150 of the 239 people on board are Chinese, and family members in Beijing have at times loudly expressed their frustration over the absence of leads.
More than a dozen Chinese diplomats met with Malaysian authorities in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday as tension grew over the search.
"At present there's a lot of different information out there. It's very chaotic and very hard to verify," foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in a regular press briefing. "We've said as long as there is a shred of hope, you can't give up."
The day before, Beijing pointedly pressed Malaysia to accelerate its investigation, which has been hampered by false leads on suspected debris and conflicting reports on radar tracking.
Vietnam on Wednesday suspended its search flights after conflicting reports from Malaysia that authorities had tracked the plane to the Strait of Malacca before it disappeared.
Gen. Rodzali Daud, Malaysia's air force chief, denied saying he had told local media that military radar facilities had tracked the plane there, saying they were still examining all possibilities. Vietnam later resumed normal search sweeps.
Malaysian authorities divided the search area into several sectors on either side of the country, as well as areas on land.
The challenge, said Lt. David Levy, a spokesman for the U.S. Navy's Seventh Fleet, isn't so much coordination as the sheer size of the area involved. The search grids are up to 20 miles by 120 miles, and ships and aircraft employ an exhaustive methodical pattern "like mowing your lawn" in their search for the plane, he said.
U.S. defense officials sought to play down any suggestion that the Malaysian government was doing a poor job with the search.
"It is not unusual for searches to take a long time, especially when you are working with limited data," one official said.
Aviation experts say the absence of an electronic signal from the plane before it disappeared from radar screens makes it difficult to pin down possible locations. Some radar data suggested the Boeing 777 might have tried to turn back to Kuala Lumpur before contact was lost, a detail that prompted a search for the plane on both sides of the Malaysian peninsula.
A U.S. Navy P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft has been searching the northern Strait of Malacca, west of Malaysia, while destroyers USS Kidd and USS Pinckney have been deploying helicopters in the Gulf of Thailand to the east.
So far the U.S., like other nations taking part in the search, has had no success. Many aviation experts are concluding that searchers might not have been looking in the right places. Even if the plane broke up in midair, it would have left telltale traces of debris in the ocean. The cracks now emerging between some of the participants in the search could make it even more difficult.
Diplomatic feuds over air disasters have generally erupted over the conclusions of the investigations, long after the initial search is over.
The results of the 1999 crash of an Egyptair Boeing 767 en route to Egypt from New York, which killed 217 people, spawned a dispute between Washington and Cairo that strained ties for years. The National Transportation Safety Board concluded the plane's co-pilot purposely put the twin-engine jet into a steep dive and then resisted efforts by the captain to recover control before the airliner slammed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Nantucket. Egyptian authorities insisted the evidence indicated mechanical failure.
Years earlier, Washington and Paris butted heads over the investigation of an American Eagle commuter turboprop that crashed in 1994 near Roselawn, Ind. The French objected to the NTSB's conclusions that French regulators failed to take actions that could have prevented the accident.
—Jon Ostrower, Trefor Moss, Gaurav Raghuvanshi and Josh Chin contributed to this article.
13th Mar 2014, 05:02 #2607 (permalink)"
China have said the sat shots arnt of the plane in the water
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Why u wallOfTexting us chief? U should know better, u that desperate for attention?
I always suspected you to be a closet homo. Your attention seeking just confirms it.
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Why u wallOfTexting us chief? U should know better, u that desperate for attention?
I always suspected you to be a closet homo. Your attention seeking just confirms it.
Return to fondling thy breasts while twirling blonde curls sweet fat alice
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Return to fondling thy breasts while twirling blonde curls sweet fat alice
Not sure what that Euro trash slanging means but your craving for attention driven homosexuality is more transparent than stretch n seal.
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I don't know what the black boxes on planes can do...
A flight data recorder records:
- The positions of the control surfaces.
- Data from the flight instruments.
- The radio communications.
- The conversations between the flight crew.
- and probably other things.
Bearing in mind the Black boxes always survive, why dont they make the planes out of the same material as the black box?
No one ever killed and planes always in one peice.
Airplanes by definition have to ...fly. As such they have to be little bits of almost nothing. Aircraft in relation to their size are astoundingly light. They are what are called "Monocoque" structures.
There is a form of mathematics called "Linear Programming" which is the discipline of manipulating variables to come up with "good answers" when there is no one single "Best Answer."
Variables such as cost, price, weight, durability, and so forth. Which in turn influences the design.
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WTF.... I can get a tracker for $100 that'll broadcast once a minute, and will locate my car anywhere on planet earth.
They don't have a backup one running on planes that bad guys can't just 'turn off"? WTF?
Can't they use the Find My Phone app, and/or see where the last phone texted or pinged from? Surely, if someone is jacking a plane and making them fly for oh, 4 hours of sheer panic, SOMEONE on board managed to hide phone from the 2-3 jackers, and could text someone.
Story is fishy... I'm betting investigators have a damn fine idea of what happened, and they won't want to release that info yet. Maybe they're investigating and don't want to top off jackers/whoever helped them. Maybe it's aliens or hostile govt action and they don't want a war. Who knows.
IMO, in the old days, they'd just make up some shit and we'd see it on the news and believe it. Can't do that these days... the minute they say, "Oh, the plane failed due to XYZ mechanical failure at this point", someone will come fwd with a legit text message saying "Oh, we got jacked!" and the location will put the official story to shame and imply an obvious coverup.
So hey, tech might be good for that... no longer can anyone just make up a BS story. People CAN prove it wrong. I guess we'll see what happened eventually, who knows. Probably just crashed, but really... no debris... that's weird..
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That plane landed somewhere.
"aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours, based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring. . . "
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That plane landed somewhere.
"aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours, based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring. . . "
you would think the insurance company would ask for the plane to at the very least have a viper alarm
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you would think the insurance company would ask for the plane to at the very least have a viper alarm
;D It probably just has a "Insured by Smith & Wesson" sticker in the back window.
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(http://i61.tinypic.com/ab4lko.jpg)
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That just made me watch this again. Favorite ever twilight zone. Awesome.
http://vimeo.com/30119989
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USA is now saying it flew on for nearly 4 hours due to the engine data, which I believe comes from rolls Royce health monitoring of all the engines they sell, so the transponder goes off then flies for 4 hours, def hijacking.The report is from the Wall Street journal, and the reporter is known as the best aviation journalist out there.
"U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.
Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.
That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.
Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.
U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.
The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.
But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it apparently continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.
At one briefing, according to this person, officials were told investigators are actively pursuing the notion that the plane was diverted "with the intention of using it later for another purpose."
As of Wednesday it remained unclear whether the plane reached an alternate destination or if it ultimately crashed, potentially hundreds of miles from where an international search effort has been focused.
In those scenarios, neither mechanical problems, pilot mistakes nor some other type of catastrophic incident caused the 250-ton plane to mysteriously vanish from radar.
The latest revelations come as local media reported that Malaysian police visited the home of at least one of the two pilots.
Boeing officials and a Malaysia Airlines official declined to comment.
The engines' onboard monitoring system is provided by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce PLC, and it periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground.
Rolls-Royce couldn't immediately be reached for comment.
As part of its maintenance agreements, Malaysia Airlines transmits its engine data live to Rolls-Royce for analysis. The system compiles data from inside the 777's two Trent 800 engines and transmits snapshots of performance, as well as the altitude and speed of the jet.
Those snippets are compiled and transmitted in 30-minute increments, said one person familiar with the system. According to Rolls-Royce's website, the data is processed automatically "so that subtle changes in condition from one flight to another can be detected."
The engine data is being analyzed to help determine the flight path of the plane after the transponders stopped working. The jet was originally headed for China, and its last verified position was half way across the Gulf of Thailand.
A total flight time of five hours after departing Kuala Lumpur means the Boeing 777 could have continued for an additional distance of about 2,200 nautical miles, reaching points as far as the Indian Ocean, the border of Pakistan or even the Arabian Sea, based on the jet's cruising speed.
Earlier Wednesday, frustrations over the protracted search for the missing plane mounted as both China and Vietnam vented their anger over what they viewed as poor coordination of the effort.
Government conflicts and national arguments over crises are hardly unique to the Flight 370 situation, but some air-safety experts said they couldn't recall another recent instance of governments publicly feuding over search procedures during the early phase of an international investigation.
Authorities radically expanded the size of the search zone Wednesday, which already was proving a challenge to cover effectively, but the mission hadn't turned up much by the end of the fifth day.
Also on Wednesday, a Chinese government website posted images from Chinese satellites showing what it said were three large objects floating in an 8-square-mile area off the southern tip of Vietnam. The objects were discovered on Sunday , according to the website, which didn't say whether the objects had been recovered or examined.
Ten countries were helping to scour the seas around Malaysia, including China, the U.S. and Vietnam. Taiwanese vessels are expected to be on the scene by Friday, with India and Japan having also agreed to join the search soon.
In all, 56 surface ships were taking part in the search, according to statements issued by the contributing governments, with Malaysia providing 27 of them. In addition, 30 fixed-wing aircraft were also searching, with at least 10 shipboard helicopters available, mostly in the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam.
China's government was especially aggrieved. More than 150 of the 239 people on board are Chinese, and family members in Beijing have at times loudly expressed their frustration over the absence of leads.
More than a dozen Chinese diplomats met with Malaysian authorities in Kuala Lumpur on Wednesday as tension grew over the search.
"At present there's a lot of different information out there. It's very chaotic and very hard to verify," foreign ministry spokesman Qin Gang said in a regular press briefing. "We've said as long as there is a shred of hope, you can't give up."
The day before, Beijing pointedly pressed Malaysia to accelerate its investigation, which has been hampered by false leads on suspected debris and conflicting reports on radar tracking.
Vietnam on Wednesday suspended its search flights after conflicting reports from Malaysia that authorities had tracked the plane to the Strait of Malacca before it disappeared.
Gen. Rodzali Daud, Malaysia's air force chief, denied saying he had told local media that military radar facilities had tracked the plane there, saying they were still examining all possibilities. Vietnam later resumed normal search sweeps.
Malaysian authorities divided the search area into several sectors on either side of the country, as well as areas on land.
The challenge, said Lt. David Levy, a spokesman for the U.S. Navy's Seventh Fleet, isn't so much coordination as the sheer size of the area involved. The search grids are up to 20 miles by 120 miles, and ships and aircraft employ an exhaustive methodical pattern "like mowing your lawn" in their search for the plane, he said.
U.S. defense officials sought to play down any suggestion that the Malaysian government was doing a poor job with the search.
"It is not unusual for searches to take a long time, especially when you are working with limited data," one official said.
Aviation experts say the absence of an electronic signal from the plane before it disappeared from radar screens makes it difficult to pin down possible locations. Some radar data suggested the Boeing 777 might have tried to turn back to Kuala Lumpur before contact was lost, a detail that prompted a search for the plane on both sides of the Malaysian peninsula.
A U.S. Navy P-3C Orion maritime patrol aircraft has been searching the northern Strait of Malacca, west of Malaysia, while destroyers USS Kidd and USS Pinckney have been deploying helicopters in the Gulf of Thailand to the east.
So far the U.S., like other nations taking part in the search, has had no success. Many aviation experts are concluding that searchers might not have been looking in the right places. Even if the plane broke up in midair, it would have left telltale traces of debris in the ocean. The cracks now emerging between some of the participants in the search could make it even more difficult.
Diplomatic feuds over air disasters have generally erupted over the conclusions of the investigations, long after the initial search is over.
The results of the 1999 crash of an Egyptair Boeing 767 en route to Egypt from New York, which killed 217 people, spawned a dispute between Washington and Cairo that strained ties for years. The National Transportation Safety Board concluded the plane's co-pilot purposely put the twin-engine jet into a steep dive and then resisted efforts by the captain to recover control before the airliner slammed into the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Nantucket. Egyptian authorities insisted the evidence indicated mechanical failure.
Years earlier, Washington and Paris butted heads over the investigation of an American Eagle commuter turboprop that crashed in 1994 near Roselawn, Ind. The French objected to the NTSB's conclusions that French regulators failed to take actions that could have prevented the accident.
—Jon Ostrower, Trefor Moss, Gaurav Raghuvanshi and Josh Chin contributed to this article.
13th Mar 2014, 05:02 #2607 (permalink)"
China have said the sat shots arnt of the plane in the water
why would you post this? It didn't fly for four hours after dude.
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So it flied for four hours afterwards? Interesting.
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why would you post this? It didn't fly for four hours after dude.
Do you believe everything you are fed by Government?The top aviation reporter with arguably the top news reporting company has contacts which are confirming that data sent from the plane is suggesting it was in the air for up to another 4.
It's become a heavily political situation with no country wanting to reveal their tech for tracking and surveillance, so while there is a public show of union for looking for the jet, behind the scenes countries are busy doing the real work independently of each other to look after their own national security first.You are forgetting this is an unprecedented mystery, full passenger planes don't just drop off the face of the earth for 5+ days with nobody knowing where the fuck on earth to look for it.This plane was very purposely detoured and had its transponder turned off from the exact point where Malaysian atc handed over to Vietnemese atc so it could have the max amount of time to disappear before anyone realised it was missing.
This could be part of a further plot against one of the parties searching, so you need to understand that in that climate behind the scenes it's every man for himself to protect their own national security.
An interview with the reporter below.
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/03/13/malaysia-plane-pasztor
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why would you post this? It didn't fly for four hours after dude.
its in the wall street journal
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282 (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282)
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Wsj printed clarification, fits in with why USA sending USS Kidd to Indian Ocean, which is 3 or so hours from Malaysia
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Corrections & Amplifications
U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 flew for hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, based on an analysis of signals sent through the plane's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of onboard systems, according to people familiar with the matter. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said investigators based their suspicions on signals from monitoring systems embedded in the plane's Rolls-Royce PLC engines and described that process.
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imagine the pain the families are going thru here... at least if they know it crashed, they could mourn and move on. Instead it's "will my loved one suddenly show up unharmed from an airport hanger from a week-long hostage situation we never heard about"?
They probably know what happened... just dealing with govt/security/other issues involved.
Almost everyone just keeps assuming the "news" tells us everything.
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imagine the pain the families are going thru here... at least if they know it crashed, they could mourn and move on. Instead it's "will my loved one suddenly show up unharmed from an airport hanger from a week-long hostage situation we never heard about"?
They probably know what happened... just dealing with govt/security/other issues involved.
Almost everyone just keeps assuming the "news" tells us everything.
I'm not sure what planet Xfactor lives on, the very definition of a sheep.The one thing interesting coming from the wsj reporter is speculation the plane may have landed at some point in the 4 hours, the only reason I can think for that is to unload passengers or refuel.What a mindfuck if they found the fuselage but no bodies apart from an expendable pilot.Also the average depth of the Indian Ocean where the USS Kidd is going to look is 13000 feet.....
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imagine the pain the families are going thru here... at least if they know it crashed, they could mourn and move on. Instead it's "will my loved one suddenly show up unharmed from an airport hanger from a week-long hostage situation we never heard about"?
They probably know what happened... just dealing with govt/security/other issues involved.
Almost everyone just keeps assuming the "news" tells us everything.
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i blame it all on the FAA
if it wasnt mandatory to turn off all your electronic devices , once the pilot went low enough a passenger or 2 could of sent out a text message.
its already been proven that cellphone transmissions do not interfere with plane communications
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I just don't understand why there is ANY way that a pilot can TURN OFF the transponder and suddenly the plane cannot be tracked on radar anymore. That's exactly what Wolf blitz said on CNN today.
i mean, the possibilities... hijackers... suicidal pilots... why give the 2 dudes in the cockput the ability to make a plane invisible? And why doesn't radar work anymore? I mean, during war, our enemies don't wear transponders lol, and we still see them on radar... this plane sure didn't look like a stealth bomber lol...
if something happened, then there were cell phone texts/calls. I bet that is the single most important factor here. Back in the day, the govts could just write up a safe, believable narrative and put it on the news, and 2 days later, the story is old news and we never hear about it again. Today? Today, you have a million ways a mystery text could appear from someone on that plane, and voila, the story crumbles.
it's a weird time we're living in.
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I just don't understand why there is ANY way that a pilot can TURN OFF the transponder and suddenly the plane cannot be tracked on radar anymore. That's exactly what Wolf blitz said on CNN today.
i mean, the possibilities... hijackers... suicidal pilots... why give the 2 dudes in the cockput the ability to make a plane invisible? And why doesn't radar work anymore? I mean, during war, our enemies don't wear transponders lol, and we still see them on radar... this plane sure didn't look like a stealth bomber lol...
if something happened, then there were cell phone texts/calls. I bet that is the single most important factor here. Back in the day, the govts could just write up a safe, believable narrative and put it on the news, and 2 days later, the story is old news and we never hear about it again. Today? Today, you have a million ways a mystery text could appear from someone on that plane, and voila, the story crumbles.
it's a weird time we're living in.
Blame the radar not working on the earth being round, if it was flat and had line of sight then you could radar the whole earth with ease.
Apparently the satellite picked up pings every 30 minutes for the four hours, so likely the search will start around the last ping, but that doesn't mean it didnt land or crash on land rather than water.
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i thought after 911 , all planes had Reinforced Cockpoit Doors that were impenetrable, and during hostage takeover , under no circumstances were the pilots allowed to open the door, no matter if passengers were getting hacked to pieces.
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Pilots still open the cockpit door from time to time. I have seen it many many times since 9/11.
That plane landed somewhere. Not crash landed, landed.
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Do you believe everything you are fed by Government?The top aviation reporter with arguably the top news reporting company has contacts which are confirming that data sent from the plane is suggesting it was in the air for up to another 4.
It's become a heavily political situation with no country wanting to reveal their tech for tracking and surveillance, so while there is a public show of union for looking for the jet, behind the scenes countries are busy doing the real work independently of each other to look after their own national security first.You are forgetting this is an unprecedented mystery, full passenger planes don't just drop off the face of the earth for 5+ days with nobody knowing where the fuck on earth to look for it.This plane was very purposely detoured and had its transponder turned off from the exact point where Malaysian atc handed over to Vietnemese atc so it could have the max amount of time to disappear before anyone realised it was missing.
This could be part of a further plot against one of the parties searching, so you need to understand that in that climate behind the scenes it's every man for himself to protect their own national security.
An interview with the reporter below.
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2014/03/13/malaysia-plane-pasztor
No way that plan flew for 4 hours after.. Between this wrong information and the twitter guy blabbing I'm not sure who the sheep here is you or me
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No way that plan flew for 4 hours after.. Between this wrong information and the twitter guy blabbing I'm not sure who the sheep here is you or me
the plane's engines have an on-board monitoring system supplied by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce PLC. The system "periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground,"
why would Rolls Royce lie ???
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the plane's engines have an on-board monitoring system supplied by their manufacturer, Rolls-Royce PLC. The system "periodically sends bursts of data about engine health, operations and aircraft movements to facilities on the ground,"
why would Rolls Royce lie ???
It isn't coming from Rolls Royce, that was a mistake from WSJ, its coming from sat linkup to plane.
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No way that plan flew for 4 hours after.. Between this wrong information and the twitter guy blabbing I'm not sure who the sheep here is you or me
So you think that the USA , with the greatest military and surveillance in the world, is choosing to search firstly 3-4 hours away by plane from everyone else for no reason at all?
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/13/us-orders-uss-kidd-indian-ocean-search-malaysia-pl/
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Pilots still open the cockpit door from time to time. I have seen it many many times since 9/11.
That plane landed somewhere. Not crash landed, landed.
yeah it's starting to look like that.
And IF it was some terror group doing some terror shit, holding hostages, etc... Maybe it would be SMARTER for the authorities to keep the media OUT of it. Why give the bad guys the audience they crave? Maybe they're waiting them out right now someplace. It's gotta be a LOT easier to run a police standoff with bad guys, when you don't have political/media pressure on the situation.
So maybe that's it... maybe in a day or 5 we learn they freed the hostages or something like that. Would be a HUGE story if that happened... most ppl assuming the plane crashed in water.
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Jay is headed over to help in the search..... (https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTOFQR-kCcwuiqHbDixG6uTQnMi3uEN5wFCjyBDDc_RVeBRlavJHw)
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I also think if they havent found debris by now that its been hijacked, could the pilot or co pilot have been uighur sympathisers, the co pilot has a muslim name, the uighurs just completed a large terrorist act in China, and like most muslim they are fighting a separatist conflict inside a country with no thought of economic reality.
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Malaysia Airliner Communications Shut Down Separately: US Officials Say
Source: abc
Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.
The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m. This indicates it may well have been a deliberate act, ABC News aviation consultant John Nance said.
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U.S. officials said earlier that they have an "indication" the missing Malaysia Airlines jetliner may have crashed in the Indian Ocean and is moving the USS Kidd to the area to begin searching.
It's not clear what the indication was, but senior administration officials told ABC News the missing Malaysian flight continued to "ping" a satellite on an hourly basis after it lost contact with radar. The Boeing 777 jetliners are equipped with what is called the Airplane Health Management system in which they ping a satellite every hour. The number of pings would indicate how long the plane stayed aloft.
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White House spokesman Jay Carney said, “It's my understanding that based on some new information that's not necessarily conclusive, but new information, an additional search area may be opened in the Indian Ocean, and we are consulting with international partners about the appropriate assets to deploy.”...
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Malaysia Airlines and the case of the missing legs
By Terri Rupar
March 12 at 2:32 pm
Or maybe it's the case of the extra legs?
The photos circulated Tuesday of the two Iranians who got on the missing Malaysia Airlines flight showed two men with different bags, different T-shirts and the same pair of legs.
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2014/03/04119845-1024x958.jpg)
The New Straits Times reports that Malaysian police said there was no purposeful doctoring of the photographs -- the photo of one man was simply placed on top of the photo of the other when they were photocopied.
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Aliens?
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Aliens?
Dont know, so aliens.
only logical conclusion.
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:D
http://www.theonion.com/articles/malaysian-airlines-expands-investigation-to-includ,35524/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/malaysian-airlines-expands-investigation-to-includ,35524/)
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why would you post this? It didn't fly for four hours after dude.
X2... ArmyOfDouche aka DavidPaul aka Mohamed... loves to stirr the pot for attention to distract us from the obvious homosexual tendencies dominating his posts.
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Aliens?
Even worse! Muslims!
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Even worse! Muslims!
So you're saying illegal aliens.
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Phone companies can track phone locations - so why not here?
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Phone companies can track phone locations - so why not here?
cause its a bullshit story.
they will say they found the plane, show us old footage of air france and that's that.
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Phone companies can track phone locations - so why not here?
you need cell towers or relay stations for that. there are neither in the indian ocean and most of the remote land the plane could have flown over.
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US Airforce General admits they can "remote control" an airliner.
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The families of the missing passengers should be thankful that the flight wasn't with Ryanair They would have been invoiced for the plane and possibly charged a finder's fee.
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So you're saying illegal aliens.
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So it's now been confirmed to be a near certain hijacking, the pilot, whoever it was, was following navigational waypoints that employed airline pilots use, specifically in this case the turn from the Malaca strait to the Andaman Islands , the plot thickens!I'm guessing Xfactor won't be posting in this thread anymore ;D
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The two pilots, of which one or both have to be the prime suspects with the way the plane was flown after the divert, both seem to set off the buzzer of the metal detector but are very lightly searched
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=217116208486081&set=vb.216929135171455&type=2&theater
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it's been a WEEK.... and it's still people guessing. Unreal. the headline story on every news channel... analysts REALLY reaching now. "I think there's a human element, a weather element, a mechanical element"....
No, there wasn't a mechanical failure + hijackers + magic lightning bolt, you dumb shit. Pick one. Stop trying to pretend... your dumb ass has no idea.
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it's been a WEEK.... and it's still people guessing. Unreal. the headline story on every news channel... analysts REALLY reaching now. "I think there's a human element, a weather element, a mechanical element"....
No, there wasn't a mechanical failure + hijackers + magic lightning bolt, you dumb shit. Pick one. Stop trying to pretend... your dumb ass has no idea.
The engine failed right after the transponder turned itself off, then in a separate incident, Hijackers took over the plane. In yet a another separate, unrelated incident, the plane entered the Dragon's triangle.
A nearby oil slick & massive debris are also unrelated to the plane in question.
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The plane must be in Las Vegas. That's the only reasonable answer.
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Phone companies can track phone locations - so why not here?
Call someone that's out of cell reception. It will ring like they're not answering, but it isn't going through to their phone.
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One of the working theories now is that it could have landed on an island. Pirates?
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My guess is alien abduction on a large scale.
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US Airforce General admits they can "remote control" an airliner.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/KiL546fZzZSYU/giphy.gif)
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One of the working theories now is that it could have landed on an island. Pirates?
The impression I get is that the working theory is the somebody/bodies or part of the cargo were what somebody wanted
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It is as I first suspected, a bit of groundwork for a large scale 'alien abduction' cover story when the rapture happens.
When millions of Christians suddenly dissapear from the earth without a trace, no one will believe it was a large scale alien abduction, as 90% of people don't take any accounts of this stuff seriously.
However, if you do a few biggies like this one over the year that never get solved, it's far more believable.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 "Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord."
The last thing Satan wants, when this rapture happens, is for people to start believing in God and reading the bible.
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Am I the only one that still believes it crashed and is at the bottom of the ocean?
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Am I the only one that still believes it crashed and is at the bottom of the ocean?
No.
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Am I the only one that still believes it crashed and is at the bottom of the ocean?
that's the most likely outcome, by a mile.
It's just that in this day and age, given technology and radar and defense tracking... the idea of a plane disappearing with no explosion, no crash, nothing showing up on radar... it's very odd.
In the past, someone would have just declared it crashed, end of news story, move on to something else. Now, with technology... something could come out... texts, cell pics, etc... who knows.
It definitely could be the story of the year if it is something besides crash. I'm sure at some point, one of these govts is going to get tired of the pressure, dump some parts & oil, show us a few pics from a chopper, and everyone will just buy that story. Pretty exciting story though...
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that's the most likely outcome, by a mile.
It's just that in this day and age, given technology and radar and defense tracking... the idea of a plane disappearing with no explosion, no crash, nothing showing up on radar... it's very odd.
In the past, someone would have just declared it crashed, end of news story, move on to something else. Now, with technology... something could come out... texts, cell pics, etc... who knows.
It definitely could be the story of the year if it is something besides crash. I'm sure at some point, one of these govts is going to get tired of the pressure, dump some parts & oil, show us a few pics from a chopper, and everyone will just buy that story. Pretty exciting story though...
Have you considered the Rapture angle?
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The impression I get is that the working theory is the somebody/bodies or part of the cargo were what somebody wanted
This is my impression as well.
I read something about a mechanical engineer from Australia that just received word of receiving the "job offer of a lifetime" in Mongolia according to his wife.
He was on the flight, and also told his wife before he left that if something happens to him he loves her etc...
All very odd.
Wonder if 'Mongolia' was actually China, and the 'mechanical engineer' was actually a scientist defecting to China with weapons technology secrets? It would interesting to find out more about him and the individual passengers.
If the west took out an entire plane to get one guy "for the greater good" we would have to cover that up.
Excuse me if any of this has already been mentioned. I didn read the entire thread.
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Have you considered the Rapture angle?
There are angles that many people are considering... they go beyond my little mind. Religious... yeah, that does match up.
Same with aliens... I mean, hundreds of former world & military leaders say we've been visited, and they're a part of things here. It's pretty silly these days to say we're alone. And yeah, if they can travel that far with that technology, if they they can pull people for any reason, then they can make a plane disappear, sure.
Or the terr'ist angle... took the plane, landed someplace and they're having a standoff right now, without the cameras.
Or, the govt bad guy angle... someone controlled the plane and make it land somewhere and took people off the plane.
Who the heck knows. most likely a crash, but wow.... any one of those pings or signals can disprove that... I'm stumped on this one. The biggest fools are the ones that say they KNOW what happened here. We jsut dont...
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The Dailymail is not the most credible source, but here it is:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578358/Husband-gave-wedding-ring-watch-wife-boarding-missing-flight-MH370-case-happen-him.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2580815/Missing-MH370-jet-flown-Indias-Andaman-Islands-according-radar-data-claimed-inquiries-focus-increasingly-hijacking-theory.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2580815/Missing-MH370-jet-flown-Indias-Andaman-Islands-according-radar-data-claimed-inquiries-focus-increasingly-hijacking-theory.html)
US says missing Malaysian jet could be 'act of PIRACY': Did 777 secretly land after being flown for hours with plane's locators deliberately turned off?
Plane may have been deliberately flown across Malay peninsula, sources say
Military radar-tracking evidence reportedly suggests it was heading towards the Andaman Islands
Third source claims inquiries were increasingly focusing on theory someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight
Expert suggested a pilot could have crashed plane as an act of suicide
Search efforts being stepped up in the Andaman Sea and Indian Ocean
shit is way to long to copy and paste story and photos , if interested Click the link
(http://www.vbf-85.com/Insignia2.JPG)
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Is piracy the new politically correct word for terrorism?
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Am I the only one that still believes it crashed and is at the bottom of the ocean?
No. I agree that's a strong possibility. Growing stronger by the hour.
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Is piracy the new politically correct word for terrorism?
It is the term for Hebrew terrorism, to differentiate.
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Watching now on CNN
Wall Street Journal
Strong indications that one or more people on the plane deliberately changed its course,tried to mask its location
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Meanwhile in Ukraine... ??? ;D
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Meanwhile in Ukraine... ??? ;D
Russia shot down an obama drone
And john Kerry still has a horse face
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Russia shot down an obama drone
And john Kerry still has a horse face
I'm thinking more along the lines of it's serving a dual purpose of distracting from stuff involving Russia.
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;D ;D ;D ;D That Craigslist ad is awesome!
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;D ;D ;D ;D That Craigslist ad is awesome!
X2
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TWA 800 new york to france thinks this investigation is total bullshit
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New conference in a few minutes
Will say for for a fact the plane was hijacked
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Investigators searching for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 conclude plane was hijacked: Malaysian official
A Malaysian government official said that hijacking was no longer just a theory: 'It is conclusive.' No motive has yet been established, the official said, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. Malaysian officials have said military radar suggests the plane may have turned back and crossed over the Malaysian peninsula.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-divert-andaman-islands-article-1.1721523#ixzz2w0OQdIfW
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Who will the be pinned on? Iran? Russia? You never let a serious crisis go to waste.
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Markus Csak
13 hours ago
I would take a close Look at Port Blair, more specifically Veer Savarkar International Airport (IXZ), NayagaonPort Blair, Andaman and Nicobar Islands. This is the Only runway long enough to handle or allow such an aircraft to land safely. Just a thought.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-divert-andaman-islands-article-1.1721523#ixzz2w0Ph6x4V
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I bet the dirty Curry poppers did it. Can't trust these fuckers.
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Who will the be pinned on? Iran? Russia? You never let a serious crisis go to waste.
They should pin it on someone different just to mess with people. Blame it on the French or Belgium or something.
Now that they've admitted it was hijacked (pretty obvious after box turned off, and kept flying, changed direction...
Next we'll have to see if they admit crash, or if it landed someplace. The lack of an explosion is so puzzling... all that radar, so close to china... and they're tracking an unknown plane... and they don't know if it crashed or what? I'm sure they know. And if it crashed, why not just admit it? IMO, the only reason to be so quiet on this is if it didn't crash.
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They should pin it on someone different just to mess with people. Blame it on the French or Belgium or something.
Now that they've admitted it was hijacked (pretty obvious after box turned off, and kept flying, changed direction...
Next we'll have to see if they admit crash, or if it landed someplace. The lack of an explosion is so puzzling... all that radar, so close to china... and they're tracking an unknown plane... and they don't know if it crashed or what? I'm sure they know. And if it crashed, why not just admit it? IMO, the only reason to be so quiet on this is if it didn't crash.
Good points, I can't understand how they can trace individual vehicles from space but not a 777?
They should blame it on the French!!! Then Obama can say "psyche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
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Good points, I can't understand how they can trace individual vehicles from space but not a 777?
They should blame it on the French!!! Then Obama can say "psyche!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
remember when the military 'discovered' a bin laden tape, 5 days before the 2004 election, in which Bin Laden ENDORSES John Kerry for President? lol... they should do some shit like that. Completely throw someone under the bus.
some rogue airplane with no transponder getting all shady in the middle of the night near china... and we're supposed to belive the US, china, RUS, and everyone else wasn't zoomed in, watching it?
They know what happened to that plane. I'm sure a dozen countries were watching it... and they knew it instantly. maybe not who jacked it or why, but as far as when this mystery plane stopped showing up on radar - in the water or at some island runway - they knew in realtime. They just don't want to reveal their level of technology/methods for tracking these things?
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remember when the military 'discovered' a bin laden tape, 5 days before the 2004 election, in which Bin Laden ENDORSES John Kerry for President? lol... they should do some shit like that. Completely throw someone under the bus.
some rogue airplane with no transponder getting all shady in the middle of the night near china... and we're supposed to belive the US, china, RUS, and everyone else wasn't zoomed in, watching it?
They know what happened to that plane. I'm sure a dozen countries were watching it... and they knew it instantly. maybe not who jacked it or why, but as far as when this mystery plane stopped showing up on radar - in the water or at some island runway - they knew in realtime. They just don't want to reveal their level of technology/methods for tracking these things?
Yes, how convenient... That tape was a god send for someone... ;D
It's really interesting to think of what's going through the minds of all these opposing world leaders heads who know the real deal as it's happening. Our enemies are probably all pretty nervous about this. ;D
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Hijacking a plane is so 1970.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=257906.0;attach=299548;image)
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Common sense told anyone with an ounce of critical thinking skills that it didnt 'crash'.
They don't just 'lose' planes in this day an age... not with all the modern avionics/electronics designed to constantly track/communicate with an aircraft from the moment it taxis from the terminal to the moment it lands.
I cant believe that some people still buy some of the obvious bullshit their fed without questioning it at all.... sad state of affairs.
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If mark wahlberg had been on board nothing would have happened to that plane
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If mark wahlberg had been on board nothing would have happened to that plane
:D Good point. But what if an Evil Wesley Snipes were onboard too?
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But marky mark is the real deal, he said so himself.
:D Good point. But what if an Evil Wesley Snipes were onboard too?
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They found it! Those sneaky Israeli's stole the damn thing and now they have repainted it and are trying to fool everyone.
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Far too much prep went in to this to then just dump it in the sea, along with the fact it seems like a second conspirator disabled the planes coms.I think heading over land via India is most likely now.
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I'm now going with suicidal pilot.
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They think the plane must have been diverted somewhere. My best guess would be Dubai, India.
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I think it got diverted to the bottom the ocean.
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They think the plane must have been diverted somewhere. My best guess would be Dubai, India.
;D ;D That's it! Case solved.
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;D ;D That's it! Case solved.
We should see if MattT is going there any time soon to make muscles for rich schmoes Sheiks.
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Photo of the 2 corridors the plane likely travelled along with landing strips that it could have landed on
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They found it! Those sneaky Israeli's stole the damn thing and now they have repainted it and are trying to fool everyone.
Surely you can't be serious
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Surely you can't be serious
He is serious, and don't call him Shirley.She goes by the name Tammy nowadays.
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Proof of alians
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They're fine or they're not. At this point I suggest you just start dealing with it. Not every disappearing airplane needs 10 pages of discussion.
You think your grandfathers behaved like this? If they couldn't find a plane they just launched another one. You socialist pussies.
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Am I the only one that still believes it crashed and is at the bottom of the ocean?
There is no romance or excitement in this theory. I like the alien abduction theory because it has pizzazz.
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Surely you can't be serious
;D ;D ;D Excellent!
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Seems the only way a plane could go into the water without surface tension leaving signs, would be if the pilots went extremely low and slow.
(Wonder what happened with the investigation of that oil/debris sighting from several days back.)
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If the airplane was stolen, what is the motivation? What can be gained? It seems unlikely that it could be sold on the underground market. How could the thief disguise it’s provenance? Who could be behind it? If the point was the airplane itself, who would need an unregistered 777? What can be done with it?
If it’s a situation like the movie “Thunderball.” If the airplane was stolen to get something on board. What would be on a commercial flight that would be worth all this? Wouldn’t it be easier to get the “mcguffin” from the airport?
If it was to get to one of the person’s on board. Who would be worth the “acceptable collateral loss?” Wouldn’t it be easier to get him when on the ground?
If the “mcguffin” was to steal the plane and take the lives of those souls on board for political or other unknown reasons. Why are they still unknown?
How long was the lead time for this?
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If the airplane was stolen, what is the motivation? What can be gained? It seems unlikely that it could be sold on the underground market. How could the thief disguise it’s provenance? Who could be behind it? If the point was the airplane itself, who would need an unregistered 777? What can be done with it?
If it’s a situation like the movie “Thunderball.” If the airplane was stolen to get something on board. What would be on a commercial flight that would be worth all this? Wouldn’t it be easier to get the “mcguffin” from the airport?
If it was to get to one of the person’s on board. Who would be worth the “acceptable collateral loss?” Wouldn’t it be easier to get him when on the ground?
If the “mcguffin” was to steal the plane and take the lives of those souls on board for political or other unknown reasons. Why are they still unknown?
How long was the lead time for this?
Uh to weaponize it ::)
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I was one of the first to call it a hijacking.
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Uh to weaponize it ::)
Well, yes I was leading around to that, but the question is, in what form? Pack it full of tnt like they did with worn out B17s during WWII? If you are just going to use it for blunt force trauma against a target it is better to do it just after you get control of the craft.
Another consideration, if you are going to pack it with explosives, you have to do it somewhere.
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Seems the only way a plane could go into the water without surface tension leaving signs, would be if the pilots went extremely low and slow.
(Wonder what happened with the investigation of that oil/debris sighting from several days back.)
Not a chance. The plane would stall long before reaching that low of an airspeed. Successfully ditching an aircraft of that size is extremely difficult. Usually a wing touches first or its not quite right and the plane tears apart.
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Not a chance. The plane would stall long before reaching that low of an airspeed. Successfully ditching an aircraft of that size is extremely difficult. Usually a wing touches first or its not quite right and the plane tears apart.
Which would create debris, obviously. Sounds about right to me.
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Well, yes I was leading around to that, but the question is, in what form? Pack it full of tnt like they did with worn out B17s during WWII? If you are just going to use it for blunt force trauma against a target it is better to do it just after you get control of the craft.
Another consideration, if you are going to pack it with explosives, you have to do it somewhere.
Iranian nukes
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Which would create debris, obviously. Sounds about right to me.
Correct. A debris field that can span miles and miles. A plane crash isn't the neat little football field crash you see in the movies, when an aluminum skinned plane comes apart at several miles an hour, those pieces will be thrown for miles in all directions.
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Still waiting for Xfactor's expert opinion on the latest news.Maybe he's busy at work seeking out those late tps reports.
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Was the pilot of this plane one of those Muslim dogs?
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Did any of you idiots even consider that perhaps there was just Snakes on The Plane?
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Did any of you idiots even consider that perhaps there was just Snakes on The Plain?
Good point, you know these idiotic government types never think outside the box... Although the CIA is probably well aware of the fact that there could be Snakes on the plane. ::)
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Did any of you idiots even consider that perhaps there was just Snakes on The Plane?
;D Fuck these motherfucking fucking snakes!
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;D Fuck these motherfucking fucking snakes!
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Wtf!! Lmfao
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India military now says that there is no way that plane could have flown over the mainland undetected.
"impossible".
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India military now says that there is no way that plane could have flown over the mainland undetected.
"impossible".
Lol.
'Indian military'
Lol.
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Lol.
'Indian military'
Lol.
I'm sure that every country (these days) has enough technology to detect a huge plane, illegally entering the air space. I believe India.
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I'm sure that every country (these days) has enough technology to detect a huge plane, illegally entering the air space. I believe India.
Technically yes, their absolutely should. The joke is that India is about absolutely corrupt/incompetent so it wouldnt surprise me if the radar operator was asleep or they just missed it and dont want to appear stupid, or if someome was payed off.
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Technically yes, their absolutely should. The joke is that India is about absolutely corrupt/incompetent so it wouldnt surprise me if the radar operator was asleep or they just missed it and dont want to appear stupid, or if someome was payed off.
A solid counterpoint.
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Still waiting for Xfactor's expert opinion on the latest news.Maybe he's busy at work seeking out those late tps reports.
I am still here. Unfortunately I have one of those things called a life and a job, which we know you do not and don't try and debate other wise or post your fake photo etc..
Now at this point I can say I was probably wrong in my first assumption of a crash in the ocean. I admit that
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I am still here. Unfortunately I have one of those things called a life and a job, which we know you do not and don't try and debate other wise or post your fake photo etc..
Now at this point I can say I was probably wrong in my first assumption of a crash in the ocean. I admit that
It's ok bro, your boss needed you to work overtime, I get it
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It's ok bro, your boss needed you to work overtime, I get it
hahhah yes overtime right.
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we need a shop with the plane disappearing in Tbombz ass
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Getting crazy now, if this article is to be believed. The Russians believe the US navy captured the plane and diverted it to one of their bases.The Indians won't help search as they don't believe the Malaysians are telling the truth the plane even travelled west.
http://www.pisau.net/russia-puzzled-over-malaysia-airlines-mh370-capture-by-us-navy-prayformh370/
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Getting crazy now, if this article is to be believed. The Russians believe the US navy captured the plane and diverted it to one of their bases.The Indians won't help search as they don't believe the Malaysians are telling the truth the plane even travelled west.
http://www.pisau.net/russia-puzzled-over-malaysia-airlines-mh370-capture-by-us-navy-prayformh370/
WTF....distrust amongst nations amidst an international situation does not bode well.
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Getting crazy now, if this article is to be believed. The Russians believe the US navy captured the plane and diverted it to one of their bases.The Indians won't help search as they don't believe the Malaysians are telling the truth the plane even travelled west.
http://www.pisau.net/russia-puzzled-over-malaysia-airlines-mh370-capture-by-us-navy-prayformh370/
Russia has always been afraid of the USA
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Russia has always been afraid of the USA
Worrying thing about that article, there's a hell of alot of detail in it to makeup, surely alot of that can be verified in some capacity
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Worrying thing about that article, there's a hell of alot of detail in it to makeup, surely alot of that can be verified in some capacity
lots 9f extremely intredasting info.
my grandfather was flight engineer on surveillance/spy aircraft in Vietnam, and he is fond of telling me that many things go on behind the scenes that 'civilians dont need to know'. He said if the average joe ever found out what/how some of the CIA operatives that they carried around actually worked, theyd flip the fuck out.
he wouldnt tell me but I got the distinct impression those CIA spooks did some fucked up shit. B7t he seemed to trust them implicitly and completely believed what tbey did was absolutely necessary....
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Just like the massive cover up of Flight 800. Nothings surprises me with this one.
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Getting crazy now, if this article is to be believed. The Russians believe the US navy captured the plane and diverted it to one of their bases.The Indians won't help search as they don't believe the Malaysians are telling the truth the plane even travelled west.
http://www.pisau.net/russia-puzzled-over-malaysia-airlines-mh370-capture-by-us-navy-prayformh370/
So you give that article credence?
Any reason why? US is always named boogeyman for anything that happens nowadays. Does not mean they are involved...
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So there's an idea that the plane was taken to 45,000 feet in order to kill the passengers.
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So there's an idea that the plane was taken to 45,000 feet in order to kill the passengers.
wouldn't those yellow plastic gas masks come out??? would you still pass out at that altitude even with the oxygen masks ???
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wouldn't those yellow plastic gas masks come out??? would you still pass out at that altitude even with the oxygen masks ???
The theory is that cabin oxygen was cut in all forms, which apparently would kill people at that altitude.
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we need a shop with the plane disappearing in Tbombz ass
You saying the plane went "Down the Rabbit Hole"?
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LMFAO ,
25 countries :o now helping search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-25-countries-helping-search-for-missing-plane/ (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-25-countries-helping-search-for-missing-plane/)
US, France, China, Australia, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, India, Myanmar, and others in Asia.
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Other than a modified Sullenberg, seems there are only two possibilities left, and one of them would almost guarantee further consequences.
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One of my friends buddies who is intel revealed his personal theory while we were all having a few drinks at a bar.
One of the biggest jetliners goes missing, with a very large fuel capacity.
-Wasn't just the two pilots on it, other coconspirators had to be there as well to secure the passengers and prevent anyone from using phones to dial out.
-Either the pilot or someone with better training took control of the plane in order to fly low enough to evade military radar.
-End result is to land the plane, rewire it so it can't be ID'ed.
-Load the plane with warheads or a nuclear device and fly it toward a western target.
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One of my friends buddies who is intel revealed his personal theory while we were all having a few drinks at a bar.
One of the biggest jetliners goes missing, with a very large fuel capacity.
-Wasn't just the two pilots on it, other coconspirators had to be there as well to secure the passengers and prevent anyone from using phones to dial out.
-Either the pilot or someone with better training took control of the plane in order to fly low enough to evade military radar.
-End result is to land the plane, rewire it so it can't be ID'ed.
-Load the plane with warheads or a nuclear device and fly it toward a western target.
Air Marshals ???
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One of my friends buddies who is intel revealed his personal theory while we were all having a few drinks at a bar.
One of the biggest jetliners goes missing, with a very large fuel capacity.
-Wasn't just the two pilots on it, other coconspirators had to be there as well to secure the passengers and prevent anyone from using phones to dial out.
-Either the pilot or someone with better training took control of the plane in order to fly low enough to evade military radar.
-End result is to land the plane, rewire it so it can't be ID'ed.
-Load the plane with warheads or a nuclear device and fly it toward a western target.
The plane was definitely flown to 45,000 feet, before being taken down to a sub-radar level.
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The plane was definitely flown to 45,000 feet, before being taken down to a sub-radar level.
Why to 45,000 feet?
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Here's that story about the Russian report. If you haven't read it yet, you should. For whatever it is worth:
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A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) states that Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO) experts remain “puzzled” as to why the United States Navy “captured and then diverted” a Malaysia Airlines civilian aircraft from its intended flight-path to their vast and highly-secretive Indian Ocean base located on the Diego Garcia atoll.
According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft “disappeared” in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.
Interesting to note, this report says, was that Flight 370 was already under GRU “surveillance” after it received a “highly suspicious” cargo load that had been traced to the Indian Ocean nation Republic of Seychelles, and where it had previously been aboard the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.dgz2
What first aroused GRU suspicions regarding the MV Maersk Alabama, this report continues, was that within 24-hours of off-loading this “highly suspicious” cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy Seals assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances.”
Both Kennedy and Reynolds, this report says, were employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.dgz3
Upon GRU “assests” confirming that this “highly suspicious” cargo was aboard Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on 8 March, this report notes, Moscow notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of their concerns and received “assurances” that “all measures” would be taken as to ascertain what was being kept so hidden when this aircraft entered into their airspace.
However, this report says, and as yet for still unknown reasons, the MSS was preparing to divert Flight 370 from its scheduled destination of Beijing to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).
Prior to entering the People Liberation Army (PLA) protected zones of the South China Sea known as the Spratly Islands, this report continues, Flight 370 “significantly deviated” from its flight course and was tracked by VKO satellites and radar flying into the Indian Ocean region and completing its nearly 3,447 kilometer (2,142 miles) flight to Diego Garcia.
Critical to note about Flight 370’s flight deviation, GRU experts in this report say, was that it occurred during the same time period that all of the Spratly Island mobile phone communications operated by China Mobile were being jammed.
China Mobile, it should be noted, extended phone coverage in the Spratly Islands in 2011 so that PLA soldiers stationed on the islands, fishermen, and merchant vessels within the area would be able to use mobile services, and can also provide assistance during storms and sea rescues.
As to how the US Navy was able to divert Flight 370 to its Diego Garcia base, this report says, appears to have been accomplished remotely as this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft is equipped with a fly-by-wire (FBW) system that replaces the conventional manual flight controls of an aircraft with an electronic interface allowing it to be controlled like any drone-type aircraft.
However, this report notes, though this aircraft can be controlled remotely, the same cannot be said of its communication systems which can only be shut down manually; and in the case of Flight 370, its data reporting system was shut down at 1:07 a.m., followed by its transponder (which transmits location and altitude) which was shut down at 1:21 a.m.
What remains “perplexing” about this incident, GRU analysts in this report say, are why the American mainstream media outlets have yet to demand from the Obama regime the radar plots and satellite images of the Indian Ocean and South China Sea regions as the US military covers this entire area from Diego Garcia like no other seas in the world due to its vital shipping and air lanes.
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Worrying thing about that article, there's a hell of alot of detail in it to makeup, surely alot of that can be verified in some capacity
That article named 2 dead Navy Seals. Have their deaths been verified?
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Man, this shit is a real mindfuck.
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Man, this shit is a real mindfuck.
I don't think we will ever find out the real truth now.
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Why to 45,000 feet?
The idea is that it would be the fastest and surest way to contain the passengers.
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With luck, this is completely unrelated, lol:
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On 25 May 2003 a Boeing 727-223, registered N844AA, was stolen from Quatro de Fevereiro Airport, Luanda, Angola. Its disappearance prompted a worldwide search by the FBI and the CIA.
N844AA (serial number 20985) was manufactured in 1975 and formerly owned by American Airlines. Miami-based company Aerospace Sales & Leasing was reported to be its last owner. While on lease to TAAG Angola Airlines it had been grounded and sat idle at Luanda for 14 months, accruing more than $4 million in backdated airport fees, and was one of two at Quatro de Fevereiro in the process of being converted for use by IRS Airlines. The FBI described it as "...unpainted silver in colour with a stripe of blue, white and red. The plane was formerly in the air fleet of a major airline, but all of the passenger seats have been removed. It is outfitted to carry Diesel fuel."
Early reports in July 2003, noted a possible sighting of the missing plane in Conakry, Guinea, but have since been conclusively disproven by the US Department of State.
The Conakry sighting is disputed as another ex-American Airlines 727 with registration number N862AA was re-registered in Guinea as 3X-GDO and based there until it was destroyed in the UTA Flight 141 accident at Cadjehoun Airport in Cotonou, Benin.
Some reports suggest there was only one person on board the aircraft at the time; other reports suggest there may have been more than one. When the aircraft started taxiing down the runway, the control tower tried to make contact, but there was no response, and the tracking transponder was turned off.
Ben Charles Padilla, an aircraft mechanic, flight engineer, and private pilot, was aboard N844AA when it was stolen, and is believed by U.S. authorities to have been at the controls. He has not been seen or heard from since.
Padilla's sister, Benita Padilla-Kirkland, told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel newspaper that her family suspects Padilla was flying the aircraft and fear that he subsequently crashed somewhere on the African continent or is being held against his will.
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I don't think we will ever find out the real truth now.
Do we ever?
lol, no, I know what you mean. Believe me, I do.
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The idea is that it would be the fastest and surest way to contain the passengers.
I think the o2 mask would automatically drop so the passengers would be OK.
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At what altitude would air pressure become deadly? (Under most flying conditions... With a typical passenger jet)
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At what altitude would air pressure become deadly? (Under most flying conditions... With a typical passenger jet)
I assumed people were thinking the pilot/hijackers had turned off the cabin pressurization system to incapacitate everyone. A minute at 43,000 feet would render everyone unconscious. But again, those o2 mask would drop automatically.
Air pressure would never be deadly, it would be the lack of o2 at high altitude.
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I think the o2 mask would automatically drop so the passengers would be OK.
Would it be possible to shut off that oxygen supply though? ???
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I think the o2 mask would automatically drop so the passengers would be OK.
Meaning if the oxygen hadn't been disabled?
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Would it be possible to shut off that oxygen supply though? ???
Those mask have multiply oxygen generators I believe and that would seem highly unlikely. I doubt the plane would be able to take off if the o2 system was disabled. There would be multiple warning lights and sensors going crazy, I would think.
"Two independent oxygen systems are provided, one for the flight crew and one for the passengers. Portable oxygen cylinders are located throughout the airplane for emergency use."
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I assumed people were thinking the pilot/hijackers had turned off the cabin pressurization system to incapacitate everyone. A minute at 43,000 feet would render everyone unconscious. But again, those o2 mask would drop automatically.
Air pressure would never be deadly, it would be the lack of o2 at high altitude.
this. I wasnt even going to touch that one, lol. There are explanations then there are just retards dreaming. (Not pointed at you jack, I know youre just regurgitating what you read)
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this. I wasnt even going to touch that one, lol. There are explanations then there are just retards dreaming. (Not pointed at you jack, I know youre just regurgitating what you read)
So what's your take on it?
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Here's that story about the Russian report. If you haven't read it yet, you should. For whatever it is worth:
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A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU) states that Aerospace Defence Forces (VKO) experts remain “puzzled” as to why the United States Navy “captured and then diverted” a Malaysia Airlines civilian aircraft from its intended flight-path to their vast and highly-secretive Indian Ocean base located on the Diego Garcia atoll.
According to this report, Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (also marketed as China Southern Airlines flight 748 through a codeshare) was a scheduled passenger flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing, China, when on 8 March this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft “disappeared” in flight with 227 passengers on board from 15 countries, most of whom were Chinese, and 12 crew members.
Interesting to note, this report says, was that Flight 370 was already under GRU “surveillance” after it received a “highly suspicious” cargo load that had been traced to the Indian Ocean nation Republic of Seychelles, and where it had previously been aboard the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.dgz2
What first aroused GRU suspicions regarding the MV Maersk Alabama, this report continues, was that within 24-hours of off-loading this “highly suspicious” cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy Seals assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances.”
Both Kennedy and Reynolds, this report says, were employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.dgz3
Upon GRU “assests” confirming that this “highly suspicious” cargo was aboard Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on 8 March, this report notes, Moscow notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of their concerns and received “assurances” that “all measures” would be taken as to ascertain what was being kept so hidden when this aircraft entered into their airspace.
However, this report says, and as yet for still unknown reasons, the MSS was preparing to divert Flight 370 from its scheduled destination of Beijing to Haikou Meilan International Airport (HAK) located in Hainan Province (aka Hainan Island).
Prior to entering the People Liberation Army (PLA) protected zones of the South China Sea known as the Spratly Islands, this report continues, Flight 370 “significantly deviated” from its flight course and was tracked by VKO satellites and radar flying into the Indian Ocean region and completing its nearly 3,447 kilometer (2,142 miles) flight to Diego Garcia.
Critical to note about Flight 370’s flight deviation, GRU experts in this report say, was that it occurred during the same time period that all of the Spratly Island mobile phone communications operated by China Mobile were being jammed.
China Mobile, it should be noted, extended phone coverage in the Spratly Islands in 2011 so that PLA soldiers stationed on the islands, fishermen, and merchant vessels within the area would be able to use mobile services, and can also provide assistance during storms and sea rescues.
As to how the US Navy was able to divert Flight 370 to its Diego Garcia base, this report says, appears to have been accomplished remotely as this Boeing 777-200ER aircraft is equipped with a fly-by-wire (FBW) system that replaces the conventional manual flight controls of an aircraft with an electronic interface allowing it to be controlled like any drone-type aircraft.
However, this report notes, though this aircraft can be controlled remotely, the same cannot be said of its communication systems which can only be shut down manually; and in the case of Flight 370, its data reporting system was shut down at 1:07 a.m., followed by its transponder (which transmits location and altitude) which was shut down at 1:21 a.m.
What remains “perplexing” about this incident, GRU analysts in this report say, are why the American mainstream media outlets have yet to demand from the Obama regime the radar plots and satellite images of the Indian Ocean and South China Sea regions as the US military covers this entire area from Diego Garcia like no other seas in the world due to its vital shipping and air lanes.
I see an article that says this and this and this happened but not a shred of proof
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This situation is a conspiracy theorists' wet dream.
I admit I'm at half mast myself after reading some of these reports.
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This situation is a conspiracy theorists' wet dream.
I admit I'm at half mast myself after reading some of these reports.
;D ;D You ol' sleazypottomus you.
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;D ;D You ol' sleazypottomus you.
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This situation is a conspiracy theorists' wet dream.
I admit I'm at half mast myself after reading some of these reports.
I know....as in "the plane was definitely taken to 45,000 feet before dropping to subradar level"
Definitely...huh ? ::) LOL.
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Those mask have multiply oxygen generators I believe and that would seem highly unlikely. I doubt the plane would be able to take off if the o2 system was disabled. There would be multiple warning lights and sensors going crazy, I would think.
"Two independent oxygen systems are provided, one for the flight crew and one for the passengers. Portable oxygen cylinders are located throughout the airplane for emergency use."
Would it make sense that it was done as part of the hijacking process?
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I know....as in "the plane was definitely taken to 45,000 feet before dropping to subradar level"
Definitely...huh ? ::) LOL.
Are you denying it, Groink?
Or are you saying that you don't know if it was, or what?
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Are you denying it, Groink?
Or are you saying that you don't know if it was, or what?
I dont know and neither do you...but that didnt stop you from posting what "definitely" happened
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This situation is a conspiracy theorists' wet dream.
I admit I'm at half mast myself after reading some of these reports.
Do you think the plane simply crashing into the water is the most likely scenario?
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Are you denying it, Groink?
Or are you saying that you don't know if it was, or what?
He's asking you to provide proof for your assertion.
def·i·nite·ly
ˈdefənitlē/
adverb
1.
without doubt (used for emphasis).
"I will definitely be at the airport to meet you"
synonyms: certainly, surely, for sure, unquestionably, without doubt, without question, undoubtedly, indubitably, positively, absolutely; More
in a definite manner; clearly.
"we couldn't plan to go elsewhere until we had heard from you more definitely"
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I dont know and neither do you...but that didnt stop you from posting what "definitely" happened
It's been reported by every major source, Groink.
Look it up, and go back to taking selfies.
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I think the o2 mask would automatically drop so the passengers would be OK.
Those masks are only good for a few minutes. The thought behind them is that if you are unfortunate enough to lose pressure:
- The masks drop down.
- The pilot drops the plane down to fifteen thousand feet before the masks play out.
At what altitude would air pressure become deadly? (Under most flying conditions... With a typical passenger jet)
twenty thousand and above.
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I dont know and neither do you...but that didnt stop you from posting what "definitely" happened
The best way to handle jack is to keeping repeating your question. He won't answer but it will prevent the question from being lost in all his subterfuge.
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It's been reported by every major source, Groink.
Look it up, and go back to taking selfies.
Jacks Two Cocks with the left jab below the belt.
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It's been reported by every major source, Groink.
Look it up, and go back to taking selfies.
Examples from every major source, please? And you said definitely as if it were a matter of fact not speculation. Everything is speculation until all the facts are in.
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For the dumbshits on board:
search: malaysian 45,000
Seriously basic shit here, man. Use your fucking brain.
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Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appeared to show that the missing airliner climbed to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777
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Tommy is the most knowledgeable on AC...would like to get his opinion
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Radar signals recorded by the Malaysian military appeared to show that the missing airliner climbed to 45,000 feet, above the approved altitude limit for a Boeing 777
Link please.
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...on the oxygen system, etc.
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For the dumbshits on board:
search: malaysian 45,000
Seriously basic shit here, man. Use your fucking brain.
Link please.
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Link please.
look it up, queer.
quit playing stupid
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For the dumbshits on board:
search: malaysian 45,000
Seriously basic shit here, man. Use your fucking brain.
Gotta link for that?
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look it up, queer.
quit playing stupid
You said definitely as in its a proven agreed upon fact. Links please. That's how it works here. As I've been told those are the rules.
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So what gets me, are those that will argue the plane was taken, while dismissing the problem of 200+ people.
Give some ideas here, guys.
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Suicide bombers.
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You said definitely as in its a proven agreed upon fact. Links please. That's how it works here. As I've been told those are the rules.
Yeah they dont like when you corner them and tend to change the subject
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Link please.
Gotta link for that?
Yes , its in the new york times
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I see an article that says this and this and this happened but not a shred of proof
That what "for whatever it is worth" means, Groink, in case you didn't know.
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html?referrer= (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html?referrer=)
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/03/14/world/asia/flight-mh370-map-update.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/03/14/world/asia/flight-mh370-map-update.html?_r=0)
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That what "for whatever it is worth" means, Groink, in case you didn't know.
Yes I understand quite clearly and gave my opinion. That is ok right ?
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I'd love to believe the people are still alive. It would be great to have some kind of faith in that.
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That article named 2 dead Navy Seals. Have their deaths been verified?
Yes. I read it in the local paper a few weeks ago. Opiates I believe. :-\
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Yes I understand quite clearly and gave my opinion. That is ok right ?
Haha..I hear you, bro.
Yeah, it's a crazy story. Just trying to get opinions. That's all.
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Yes. I read it in the local paper a few weeks ago. Opiates I believe. :-\
This is something completely different.
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Seriously, would love to have reason to think those passengers survived, and that they'll make it through this.
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This is something completely different.
The article you posted referenced two navy seals dying aboard the Alabama that were based out of Virginia Beach. I was just stating that part was true, because those two guys that were supposedly guarding the atomic cargo bound for that plane are dead. Not arguing, telling you that something posted in that article is true.
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The article you posted referenced two navy seals dying aboard the Alabama that were based out of Virginia Beach. I was just stating that part was true, because those two guys that were supposedly guarding the atomic cargo bound for that plane are dead. Not arguing, telling you that something posted in that article is true.
Ah... sounds like a good way to cover something up, eh? Kill the 2 former SEALs charged with watching the cargo, but make it look like they both OD'd on opiates, a plausible scenario for beaten up former Spec Ops guys.
And the plot thickens.
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The article you posted referenced two navy seals dying aboard the Alabama that were based out of Virginia Beach. I was just stating that part was true, because those two guys that were supposedly guarding the atomic cargo bound for that plane are dead. Not arguing, telling you that something posted in that article is true.
Thank you, Irongrip. I see. It's a real fucker, for sure.
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Insane
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Yep, crazy shit.
But like some in the thread have said: Who knows?
Just something to keep an eye on, and pray for the best. What else can we do?
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So what gets me, are those that will argue the plane was taken, while dismissing the problem of 200+ people.
Give some ideas here, guys.
A corrupt faction of Reptilians in collusion with a secret rogue faction of the CIA...
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A corrupt faction of Reptilians in collusion with a secret rogue faction of the CIA...
I don't know if anyone's gone quite that far yet.
What are your updated thoughts, Parker?
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Insane
Would love to be that explanation
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The pilots apparently didn't make any request to work together on that flight, for whatever that information is worth.
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That what "for whatever it is worth" means, Groink, in case you didn't know.
you said definitely
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Yep, crazy shit.
But like some in the thread have said: Who knows?
Just something to keep an eye on, and pray for the best. What else can we do?
Don't bring up alternate theories... It really angers some people.
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you said definitely
Groink was referring to the Russian article I took from Nails' post.
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I don't know if anyone's gone quite that far yet.
What are your updated thoughts, Parker?
I don't know. But, this is certain, if the US military/intelligence had any involvement or it's found out that the US is behind this, there will be fireworks. From China, Russia, throughout the international community.
It will show that the US acts with impunity, and the international community may demand that we (the US) should be reined in. Setting up a literal "me against the world" scenario.
I hope that is not the case. And I hope the US military/Feds are not behind this
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Don't bring up alternate theories... It really angers some people.
But I haven't, that's the thing.
I don't know that it didn't do a Sully Sullenberger in order to avoid leaving debris.
Or maybe it flew outside the search area, and went into the water there.
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Groink was referring to the Russian article I took from Nails' post.
You did say definitely. And you said every major source. Im waiting for my links to every major source.
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I was wondering how they'd get around to blaming us.
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You did say definitely. And you said every major source. Im waiting for my links to every major source.
You fucking dummy, look what you quoted above.
Groink was referring to the Russian article, by rightly pointing out there was no certifiable proof attached to it. In turn, I reminded him that I said "for whatever it's worth".
You don't give two shits about this story. That's fine, but you should have respect for the discussion at least.
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You fucking dummy, look what you quoted above.
Groink was referring to the Russian article, by rightly pointing out there was no certifiable proof attached to it. In turn, I reminded him that I said "for whatever it's worth".
You don't give two shits about this story. That's fine, but you should have respect for the discussion at least.
Not exactly but who gives a shit after a certain amount of posts ;D
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I don't know. But, this is certain, if the US military/intelligence had any involvement or it's found out that the US is behind this, there will be fireworks. From China, Russia, throughout the international community.
It will show that the US acts with impunity, and the international community may demand that we (the US) should be reined in. Setting up a literal "me against the world" scenario.
I hope that is not the case. And I hope the US military/Feds are not behind this
If US military/intelligence had any involvement I have a feeling we will never know about it. Russia and China might know the real deal but they won't be able to prove it.
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I was wondering how they'd get around to blaming us.
I think that Russia is scared to death of U.S. Technology. They don't have answers to this missing plane yet, and fear is getting the better of them.
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I don't know. But, this is certain, if the US military/intelligence had any involvement or it's found out that the US is behind this, there will be fireworks. From China, Russia, throughout the international community.
It will show that the US acts with impunity, and the international community may demand that we (the US) should be reined in. Setting up a literal "me against the world" scenario.
I hope that is not the case. And I hope the US military/Feds are not behind this
I mean, that's the thing. There's such explosive potential with this event, and it just keeps getting stranger by the minute. It is unsettling to say the least.
Nothing wrong with discussing it, so not sure what's up with some of these benders around here. People should want to try and break it down.
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Not exactly but who gives a shit after a certain amount of posts ;D
This is what I'm talking about (and you were absolutely right in saying it):
I see an article that says this and this and this happened but not a shred of proof
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I'd been ignoring this story for days (didn't give a fuck), before realizing that it is one of the strangest events in a hell of a long time.
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If US military/intelligence had any involvement I have a feeling we will never know about it. Russia and China might know the real deal but they won't be able to prove it.
And "if" they knew that the US military/intel had anything to do with this (going on the stated scenario) the That is something which they can hold over Washington's head....but, if that got out to the Chinese public that the Chinese government "knew" something about US involvment of a missing plane, with a majority of Chinese nationals, then that is another scenario that could spiral out of control.
Way too many rabbit holes, and "ifs".
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I'd been ignoring this story for days (didn't give a fuck), before realizing that it is one of the strangest events in a hell of a long time.
Exactly why I think it's the 1st legit coverup in decades. It's been presented in a way that no one even cares.
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Exactly why I think it's the 1st legit coverup in decades. It's been presented in a way that no one even cares.
Really, my thoughts were that it simply went into the water. Especially after hearing they'd found a slick shortly after the plane disappeared.
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Really, my thoughts were that it simply went into the water. Especially after hearing they'd found a slick shortly after the plane disappeared.
Too many other things, transponder flipping off, still flying, etc etc etc. 1st thing out of my mouth when a friend told me about the story was "They don't just 'lose' commercial aircraft. They're waiting to tell us something. Probably a failed hijacking attempt or something."
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You fucking dummy, look what you quoted above.
Groink was referring to the Russian article, by rightly pointing out there was no certifiable proof attached to it. In turn, I reminded him that I said "for whatever it's worth".
You don't give two shits about this story. That's fine, but you should have respect for the discussion at least.
You're the one with the reading comprehension problems who needs to ask the same question over and over again because you don't get it the first time or the second time or the third time for that matter. What I was referring to was your first definitely that I quoted earlier in the thread. You are the worst debater I've ever encountered.
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Too many other things, transponder flipping off, still flying, etc etc etc. 1st thing out of my mouth when a friend told me about the story was "They don't just 'lose' commercial aircraft. They're waiting to tell us something. Probably a failed hijacking attempt or something."
I simply blocked it after hearing about the slick. But as bits and pieces came through, it turned into the brainjob from hell.
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So is there some sort of thought that "we" flew a bomb over there as a pre emptive strike for when the Crimea thing goes bad? I'm lost to as why we would be doing anything like that in that part of the world.
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Maybe the plane crashed on osam bin Ladens grave at the bottom of the ocean ::)
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You're the one with the reading comprehension problems who needs to ask the same question over and over again because you don't get it the first time or the second time or the third time for that matter. What I was referring to was your first definitely that I quoted earlier in the thread. You are the worst debater I've ever encountered.
Okay, SS4U. This is the last time I'm going to correct you. You can continue to follow me around if you'd like, though.
Carefully look at post #354 above. That is YOUR post. Do you see, now?
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So is there some sort of thought that "we" flew a bomb over there as a pre emptive strike for when the Crimea thing goes bad? I'm lost to as why we would be doing anything like that in that part of the world.
There probably would have been a better and less convoluted way to do that.
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So is there some sort of thought that "we" flew a bomb over there as a pre emptive strike for when the Crimea thing goes bad? I'm lost to as why we would be doing anything like that in that part of the world.
I can't imagine anything that would be anywhere near a "legitimate" reason, no.
Can anyone else?
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Guy on the pilot forum made a scary post, he said it could have been stolen to use as a bomb on a western target, and that all the worlds leaders were meeting in The Hague in the Netherlands for a summit on nuclear tech on the 25th of march, and maybe they plan to try to take them all out in one go!
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Hard to believe this is the last of the story, that's one thing for sure.
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Latest reports saying that it may have flown below 5000 feet to get past 3 countries radars then landed in Pakistan or Afghanistan.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9836664/Malaysian-jet-avoided-radars-in-three-countries
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Guy on the pilot forum made a scary post, he said it could have been stolen to use as a bomb on a western target, and that all the worlds leaders were meeting in The Hague in the Netherlands for a summit on nuclear tech on the 25th of march, and maybe they plan to try to take them all out in one go!
Exactly what I thought happened.. that it was hijacked, we figured out it went off course, and we blew it the fuck outta the sky when we figured out it wasn't flying on flight plan anymore.
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Guy on the pilot forum made a scary post, he said it could have been stolen to use as a bomb on a western target, and that all the worlds leaders were meeting in The Hague in the Netherlands for a summit on nuclear tech on the 25th of march, and maybe they plan to try to take them all out in one go!
Did he give his opinion on what terrorist group might be behind this?
Cant be al-Qaida? We have spent trillions to defeat them, bush and obama both said we beat them and we won the war
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Exactly what I thought happened.. that it was hijacked, we figured out it went off course, and we blew it the fuck outta the sky when we figured out it wasn't flying on flight plan anymore.
So these are your thoughts?
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Latest reports saying that it may have flown below 5000 feet to get past 3 countries radars then landed in Pakistan or Afghanistan.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/9836664/Malaysian-jet-avoided-radars-in-three-countries
I buy that,
A couple years ago a couple planes flew 1700 feet in new york undetected as well before it hit a couple towers
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Did he give his opinion on what terrorist group might be behind this?
Cant be al-Qaida? We have spent trillions to defeat them, bush and obama both said we beat them and we won the war
He was just a regular guy speculating, wasn't someone in US intel etc as far as I could tell
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So these are your thoughts?
...now, I mean?
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There probably would have been a better and less convoluted way to do that.
Thats kinda my thought process with a lot of the tin hat shit.
Why ?
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The plane was definitely flown to 45,000 feet, before being taken down to a sub-radar level.
was it? prove this is an undisputed fact please and not speculation.
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Exactly what I thought happened.. that it was hijacked, we figured out it went off course, and we blew it the fuck outta the sky when we figured out it wasn't flying on flight plan anymore.
Makes sense, could some kind of missile destroy it to the point where there would be nothing left? ???
I think lots of people think the 9/11 plane that they barely found in Pennsylvania was hit by a missile.
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Thats kinda my thought process with a lot of the tin hat shit.
Why ?
What are your thoughts on it?
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Maybe we are after that russian diamond mine they claim to have that will bring the jew market to its feet
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What are your thoughts on it?
Hijacking or something political...pure speculation. .not the US military trying to transport weapons on a fucking passenger plane...LOL
Could have flown into a wormhole that the aliens use to galaxy hop
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The pilots wife left him a day before the plane went missing, and took the kids.The pilots idol, a politician, got sent to jail earlier in the day before the flight, the pilot apparently was at the court.Def stressors here for the pilot to go nuts.
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Hijacking or something political...pure speculation. .not the US military trying to transport weapons on a fucking passenger plane...LOL
Could have flown into a wormhole that the aliens use to galaxy hop
No doubt. It simply couldn't be supported, with 230-something innocent people on board. It doesn't make any sense at all.
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..nothing with any official capacity, no.
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The pilots wife left him a day before the plane went missing, and took the kids.The pilots idol, a politician, got sent to jail earlier in the day before the flight, the pilot apparently was at the court.Def stressors here for the pilot to go nuts.
I was going to add..or somebody did something fucked up..what you said, or a soldier fucking up and blowing it out of the sky by mistake...and now its a circle jerk CYA coverup
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No doubt. It simply couldn't be supported, with 230-something innocent people on board. It doesn't make any sense at all.
no doubt? Absolutely none? Evidence please
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The thing was this case, unlike pretty much anything before it, is that Occams Razor has been disproved at each step.Even the most diehard sceptic forums I'm reading are coming up with James Bond esque theories to fit.
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I was going to add..or somebody did something fucked up..what you said, or a soldier fucking up and blowing it out of the sky by mistake...and now its a circle jerk CYA coverup
Getting 22 countries to play along and make it look like they are searching seems too far fetched if the above happened though.
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...now, I mean?
I think its plausible. Easiest to make sense of without crazy reaching. We wouldnt let another hijacking turn into a catastrophe, and wed just shoot the fucker down if it posed a legitimate threat. Would also exolain it disappearing by Diego Garcia if the russians are to be believed.
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I think its plausible. Easiest to make sense of without crazy reaching. We wouldnt let another hijacking turn into a catastrophe, and wed just shoot the fucker down if it posed a legitimate threat. Would also exolain it disappearing by Diego Garcia if the russians are to be believed.
Would the pieces be too small to be seen in search after that?
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...do you think?
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If it was hijacked it wasn't by an established group because no one took credit for it
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D.G. was out of the search zone, too, I believe
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If it was hijacked it wasn't by an established group because no one took credit for it
..or possibly they haven't done what they plan to take credit for (yet).
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If it was hijacked it wasn't by an established group because no one took credit for it
Cant afford to blow their load early yet,
The celebration might come when they get it back in the air, if it did land somewhere
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I think its plausible. Easiest to make sense of without crazy reaching. We wouldnt let another hijacking turn into a catastrophe, and wed just shoot the fucker down if it posed a legitimate threat. Would also exolain it disappearing by Diego Garcia if the russians are to be believed.
Yup. If it was shot down..they know exactly where
Of course thats the LAST place you search...let those debris sink a few thousand feet
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Plus taking credit for an attack post 911 usually means you and your country will soon be bombed to shit by the US ;D
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Has obama commented on record about this plane yet? Or is he to busy filling out his march madness bracket ?
(http://abcnewsradioonline.com/storage/news-images/N_031412_ObamaNCAAWHESPN.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1333474921517)
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Turn around time from hijacking and using the plane for another attack is to long. The terrorists have lost the element of suprise. They certainly wouldn't be able to commence an attack over long distances because everyone will be on the lookout for the plane.
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Yup. If it was shot down..they know exactly where
Of course thats the LAST place you search...let those debris sink a few thousand feet
Exactly. No need to worry about debris when everyone is looking everywhere else. Lol.
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Plus taking credit for an attack post 911 usually means you and your country will soon be bombed to shit by the US
Right? Probably keeping their mouth shut so they don't get extinguished in the night.
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Turn around time from hijacking and using the plane for another attack is to long. The terrorists have lost the element of suprise. They certainly wouldn't be able to commence an attack over long distances because everyone will be on the lookout for the plane.
when they finally get it back in the air , its going to look a bit old, outdated , and rustic im sure
(http://www.imcdb.org/i014240.jpg)
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Turn around time from hijacking and using the plane for another attack is to long. The terrorists have lost the element of suprise. They certainly wouldn't be able to commence an attack over long distances because everyone will be on the lookout for the plane.
Would it be possible to take off in the stolen plane and pose as another scheduled flight? ???
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Would it be possible to take off in the stolen plane and pose as another scheduled flight? ???
I think this is the worry, fresh paintjob, new transponder Id and it will be difficult to know it was even the same plane
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I read an article that pointed out how the plane crossed Malaysian airspace without the Malaysisan military taking any notice and how unusual that is and that it's raised distrust in Malaysian authorities by China and other nations.
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I think this is the worry, fresh paintjob, new transponder Id and it will be difficult to know it was even the same plane
But how are they going to get such a large commercial airliner a fresh transponder without it arousing suspicion? One would have to go missing and then show up again. I'm sure there on the lookout for that kind of shit. And I'm sure that those huge commercial jets are registered.
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But how are they going to get such a large commercial airliner a fresh transponder without it arousing suspicion? One would have to go missing and then show up again. I'm sure there on the lookout for that kind of shit. And I'm sure that those huge commercial jets are registered.
With so many flights in the air it seems plausible?
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Maybe Kim Jong Un shot it down with his new toy and then he called China crying saying it was an accident and hes sorry and begged them not to let anyone know? ???
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I think we'll know for sure by tomorrow, I find it hard to believe that they cant further analyse the satellite pings to workout which direction the plane went.If he heads south over ocean then he's commitng suicide, if he/they are heading North over land then he/they are landing.
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Cnn is now saying it flew more then 7 hours after it went off radar
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I think we'll know for sure by tomorrow,
Horse Face John Kerry also gave Putin an ultimatum that runs out tomorrow. ;D
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Cnn is now saying it flew more then 7 miles after it went off radar
Do you mean more than 7 hours?
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I think we'll know for sure by tomorrow, I find it hard to believe that they cant further analyse the satellite pings to workout which direction the plane went.If he heads south over ocean then he's commitng suicide, if he/they are heading North over land then he/they are landing.
I still think it's been shot down. I'm fairly certain they don't just "lose" aircraft, even if the transponder flips off. You can bet as soon as they lost contact with that plane, that alarms were sent up all over the intel nets, and sattelite images were used to track that plane wherever it went. THey know exactly what happened, they're just not telling us.
Thats not even getting into the GPS tracking devices that are used to tell ATC towers exactly where these planes are at all times now. It's not the 60's, the Transponders aren't the only way to keep track of a place.
The Russian report seems to support my thoughts. It headed towards a military base.. if they think the fly by wire system could be taken over by the US military, I could see them flying it to Diego Garcia and having a operator team waiting for it to touch down.
Or just saying hell with it, blowing it up, and then shrugging their shoulders and saying "We don't know what happened!" rather than explaining to the families of foreign nationals why the US shot down a plane rather than trying to negotiate or forcing it down.
Who knows, they could have flown it over Diego Garcia and tried to force the hijackers to land it, and when they refused blown it up. Any one of dozens of scenarios. But it being shot down is far more plausible to me than it flying extremely low over several countries with no radar signature and no one noticing a fucking Boeing 777 flying nap of the earth.
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Would it be possible to take off in the stolen plane and pose as another schedutraffic controlht? ???
As far as i am aware every plane has a unique identification and a specific flight plan. Any deviation from a flight plan would alert ground control. Radar would pick up the plane and attempt to make contact would be made. My best friend is an air traffic controller. I'll have to ask him.
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As far as i am aware every plane has a unique identification and a specific flight plan. Any deviation from a flight plan would alert ground control. Radar would pick up the plane and attempt to make contact would be made. My best friend is an air traffic controller. I'll have to ask him.
Oh yeah, that makes sense...
Did anyone read about the 20 military tech contractors from Austin that were on board? Someone said something about these guys working on some top secret technology?
http://www.kvue.com/news/Austin-based-company-has-20-passengers-on-missing-Malaysia-flight--249148671.html
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As far as i am aware every plane has a unique identification and a specific flight plan. Any deviation from a flight plan would alert ground control. Radar would pick up the plane and attempt to make contact would be made. My best friend is an air traffic controller. I'll have to ask him.
Exactly what I was trying to say above. Planes that size don't just "appear".
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One more theory:
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Does anyone have any comment on this part?:
Interesting to note, this report says, was that Flight 370 was already under GRU “surveillance” after it received a “highly suspicious” cargo load that had been traced to the Indian Ocean nation Republic of Seychelles, and where it had previously been aboard the US-flagged container ship MV Maersk Alabama.
What first aroused GRU suspicions regarding the MV Maersk Alabama, this report continues, was that within 24-hours of off-loading this “highly suspicious” cargo load bound for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, the two highly-trained US Navy Seals assigned to protect it, Mark Daniel Kennedy, 43, and Jeffrey Keith Reynolds, 44, were found dead under “suspicious circumstances.”
Both Kennedy and Reynolds, this report says, were employed by the Virginia Beach, Virginia-based maritime security firm The Trident Group which was founded by US Navy Special Operations Personnel (SEAL’s) and Senior US Naval Surface Warfare Officers and has long been known by the GRU to protect vital transfers of both atomic and biological materials throughout the world.dgz3
Upon GRU “assests” confirming that this “highly suspicious” cargo was aboard Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 on 8 March, this report notes, Moscow notified China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS) of their concerns and received “assurances” that “all measures” would be taken as to ascertain what was being kept so hidden when this aircraft entered into their airspace.
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Does anyone have any comments on this part?:
What's GRU? I tried to google it
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What's GRU? I tried to google it
Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (Russian)
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Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (Russian)
Thanks
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Thanks
So what do you make of this "highly suspicious" cargo?
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So what do you make of this "highly suspicious" cargo?
This article, and it could all be just made up, seems to suggest its a bio weapon
http://outrageousminds.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/malaysia-airlines-mystery-deepens-after-top-disease-experts-rushed-to-indian-ocean/
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Do you mean more than 7 hours?
Yes , sorry
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Do you mean more than 7 hours?
This might be what he meant:
http://hotair.com/archives/2014/03/15/malaysia-flight-370-signals-continued-for-more-than-seven-hours/
Will post article later
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Yes , sorry
Yeah, I just saw that. Will post a good article on it.
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Sounds to.me like Zombies are about to walk the earth
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..or possibly they haven't done what they plan to take credit for (yet).
This.
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This.
Without the element of suprise they aren't going to do much damage. They will be tracked as soon as the plane registers on radar.
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Sounds to.me like Zombies are about to walk the earth
Vissy and Goodrum already can lay claim to that one
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Sounds to.me like Zombies are about to walk the earth
You got your shotguns ready?
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This article, and it could all be just made up, seems to suggest its a bio weapon
http://outrageousminds.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/malaysia-airlines-mystery-deepens-after-top-disease-experts-rushed-to-indian-ocean/
Thing is, the media could move to verify some of this.
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This is the part that gets me, from the pisau article:
What remains “perplexing” about this incident, GRU analysts in this report say, are why the American mainstream media outlets have yet to demand from the Obama regime the radar plots and satellite images of the Indian Ocean and South China Sea regions as the US military covers this entire area from Diego Garcia like no other seas in the world due to its vital shipping and air lanes.
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So this is from very late last night:
"Someone deliberately diverted Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and shut down communications with the ground, and the jetliner continued flying for six hours, Malaysia's prime minister said Saturday." (CBS)
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Thing is, the media could move to verify some of this.
That's not what the MSM is there for though...
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Here's the 7-hour info (from article linked above):
Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Saturday that a missing passenger jet was steered off course after its communications systems were intentionally dismantled and could have potentially flown for seven additional hours.
In the most comprehensive account to date of the plane’s fate, Najib drew an ominous picture of what happened aboard Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370, saying investigators had determined there was “deliberate action by someone on the plane.” …
Though previously U.S. officials believed the plane could have remained in the air for several extra hours, Najib said Saturday that the flight was still communicating with satellites until 8:11 a.m. — seven and a half hours after takeoff, and more than 90 minutes after it was due in Beijing.
To the gents with the conspiracy theory involving a meaningless search (against knowledge that the plane had been destroyed): What do you make of this? Perhaps that it was tracked this long before being shot?
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But how are they going to get such a large commercial airliner a fresh transponder without it arousing suspicion? One would have to go missing and then show up again. I'm sure there on the lookout for that kind of shit. And I'm sure that those huge commercial jets are registered.
I can get you a transponder no problem at all, my man.
How about a white woman? I get you a white woman in 24 hours.
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I can get you a transponder no problem at all, my man.
How about a white woman? I get you a white woman in 24 hours.
You want a transponder? I can get you a transponder, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
Hell, I can get you a transponder by 3 o'clock this afternoon... a clean ID number. These fucking amateurs...
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Any geography/777 wizards know if that timeline fits with a trip to Diego Garcia?
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Any geography/777 wizards know if that timeline fits with a trip to Diego Garcia?
We need True Adonis in here, he's the one who initially located the surviving Boston Bomber.
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That's not what the MSM is there for though...
What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
I wish we had the kind of independent major media that was established to inform people, and investigate things.
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This is 5 hous after losing contact
Still flew 2 plus mor hours
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/03/15/1226855/779767-f8ddbae0-ac24-11e3-bbbe-18ebc4e71679.jpg)
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We need True Adonis in here, he's the one who initially located the surviving Boston Bomber.
Yeah, wish we could assign TA the case.
I'll try to figure it out tomorrow. Trying to see if the time that the Malaysian PM stated, could fit with a flight to Diego Garcia (or would it become out of the question, etc.)
Man, this story really hit me like a freight train. Whatever's going on, no matter what it is, it's seriously fucked.
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Damn I never heard of diego garcia, google mapped it, looks like a floating landing strip in the middle of no fucking where , crazy , right in its range of travel
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Damn I never heard of diego garcia, google mapped it, looks like a floating landing strip in the middle of no fucking where , crazy , right in its range of travel
What do you think about all this, with the updated info, etc.?
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No way it flew to Diego Garcia. Huge military presence there. The 777 would have been seen hundreds of miles away on radar heading in their direction.
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No way it flew to Diego Garcia. Huge military presence there. The 777 would have seen hundreds of miles away heading in their direction.
So would you say the Russian article is false?
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No way it flew to Diego Garcia. Huge military presence there. The 777 would have seen hundreds of miles away heading in their direction.
What's your take, with the updated info?
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So would you say the Russian article is false?
Just read the article.
It sounds incredibly unlikely. It would be a HUGE conspiracy. All the ground personnel, the radar operators, other pilots, island support staff and residence of
Diego Garcia would all need to be part of the plan and what would the plan possibly be? The US Military has tens of thousands of airplanes. They can buy thousands more. Why would they ever steal one 10 year old Boeing 777 filled with people?
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The article describes the supposed destination as a "vast and highly-secretive Indian Ocean base located on the Diego Garcia atoll".
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Just read the article.
It sounds incredibly unlikely. It would be a HUGE conspiracy. All the ground personnel, the radar operators, other pilots, island support staff and residence of
Diego Garcia would all need to be part of the plan and what would the plan possibly be? The US Military has tens of thousands of airplanes. They can buy thousands more. Why would they ever steal one 10 year old Boeing 777 filled with people?
You make some great points (not sure if the intent would be to steal it for the same reasons a person might steal a car, though).
What about the oxygen system? Do you think it's possible that the passenger oxygen may have been disabled as part of a hijacking process?
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Very informative Boeing 777 information. This site appears to help 777 pilots prep for certain test. The o2 system is addressed. The link is safe.
It seems highly unlikely that such sabotage to the passenger o2 could have gone undetected.
http://quizlet.com/11368500/boeing-777-fcom-1-airplane-general-flash-cards/
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Yeah, it would require some explanation to say it was brought there. Anything to discount the information in the article is a relief, that's for sure.
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Very informative Boeing 777 information. This site appears to help 777 pilots prep for certain test. The o2 system is addressed. The link is safe.
It seems highly unlikely that such sabotage to the passenger o2 could have gone undetected.
http://quizlet.com/11368500/boeing-777-fcom-1-airplane-general-flash-cards/
Will save this to look at first thing in morning. Thanks, Tommy. It's been an interesting thread, and it's probably nowhere near over.
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This is 5 hous after losing contact
Still flew 2 plus mor hours
(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2014/03/15/1226855/779767-f8ddbae0-ac24-11e3-bbbe-18ebc4e71679.jpg)
lol - who made that?
You do realize that the zone could not possibly be a circle, right?
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lol - who made that?
You do realize that the zone could not possibly be a circle, right?
Because of the rotation of the earth :P
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(http://oi62.tinypic.com/16blg9j.jpg)
lol - who made that?
You do realize that the zone could not possibly be a circle, right?
I'm just curious why the pilot flew in circles until he got there is all, was he drunk? Or maybe controlled by aliens to make some crop circle in the air?
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I'm just curious why the pilot flew in circles until he got there is all, was he drunk? Or maybe controlled by aliens to make some crop circle in the air?
ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It's been reported by every major source, Groink.
Look it up, and go back to taking selfies.
lol
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Yeah they dont like when you corner them and tend to change the subject
Jesus you're one stupid dude.
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Guy on the pilot forum made a scary post, he said it could have been stolen to use as a bomb on a western target, and that all the worlds leaders were meeting in The Hague in the Netherlands for a summit on nuclear tech on the 25th of march, and maybe they plan to try to take them all out in one go!
That actually sounds good!
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Horse Face John Kerry also gave Putin an ultimatum that runs out tomorrow. ;D
I'd love to see Putin go crazy and rip that ugly scumbags jugular out.
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satellite images have been released.
at least it brings us all closure.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/88/Img_kingkong1.jpg/300px-Img_kingkong1.jpg)
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Hello my getbig friends. It's good to see that some of you are finally waking up to all the government lies and deceptions.
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This just in
(http://www.scified.com/pics/24361.jpg)
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This article, and it could all be just made up, seems to suggest its a bio weapon
http://outrageousminds.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/malaysia-airlines-mystery-deepens-after-top-disease-experts-rushed-to-indian-ocean/
I don't know about this one. While I do know that it is a big "No No" to load Bio-hazardous cargo/weapons on US DoD aircraft with passengers(including duty related passengers), the same regulations may apply when attempting to manifest cargo on another international contracted aircraft...that is to say if whomever charged with the task of getting said cargo from point A to B was actually bound by these same regulations.
And let's just say that this was an actual "dark" operation that bended and twisted federally mandated regulations left and right all to high hell...why would anyone confess to what may have taken place?
I've heard of people being relieved from duty for allowing jets to fly a couple paint cans too many over Bulgaria back in the day; dozens upon dozens of heads would roll for this.
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I don't know about this one. While I do know that it is a big "No No" to load Bio-hazardous cargo/weapons on US DoD aircraft with passengers(including duty related passengers), the same regulations may apply when attempting to manifest cargo on another international contracted aircraft...that is to say if whomever charged with the task of getting said cargo from point A to B was actually bound by these same regulations.
And let's just say that this was an actual "dark" operation that bended and twisted federally mandated regulations left and right all to high hell...why would anyone confess to what may have taken place?
I've heard of people being relieved from duty for allowing jets to fly a couple paint cans too many over Bulgaria back in the day; dozens upon dozens of heads would roll for this.
I dont buy the bio weapon bullshirt. People always want to jump straighf to apocalyptic level 9. It waz probably something far less sinister.
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Here are the hijacking options. Granted we don't know for sure whether it was hijacked but lets assume it was. Either the pilot was acting alone, the pilot was acting in collusion with a terrorist organization with or without the aid of passengers on the plane or the hijackers were passengers on the plane.
Motivation are; suicidal pilot or using the plane as a weapon. No hostage demands have been received(that we know of) so I assume using the passengers as hostages isn't a primary motivation.
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Meanwhile, in the Ukraine…….
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Meanwhile, in the Ukraine…….
Good point.
Lets hijack a plane and clog up the media outlets, while we hold an illegal election to steal Crimea ;D
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Good point.
Lets hijack a plane and clog up the media outlets, while we hold an illegal election to steal Crimea ;D
;)
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;)
To be fair, there's probably no other event (minus a mass bombing somewhere in the west) that could have captivated the world's media as much as the missing plane. Whoever thought this up was good. No casualties, maxiumum exposure. Even if someone gets found out, you just pick a fall guy to face the charges and carry on with expanding the Soviet Union 8)
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We need True Adonis in here, he's the one who initially located the surviving Boston Bomber.
Lolz. TA has Down's syndrome.
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This just in
(http://www.scified.com/pics/24361.jpg)
No cock, would not hit.
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This Malaysian plane crash is becoming one of the most mysterious crash in aviation history.....now they're saying they may not find whatever is left of this plane for months or until things start washing ashore.........
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This Malaysian plane crash is becoming one of the most mysterious crash in aviation history.....now they're saying they may not find whatever is left of this plane for months or until things start washing ashore.........
That's assuming it's crashed - it's probably sitting in a hangar somewhere in Durkadurkastan by now getting kitted out with the latest explosive equipment.
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Hypothetically speaking, lets say the plane got packed (I mean even the passenger seats as well as the luggage hold) full of C4 or a lesser explosive, and got flown into a major city, how much shit could they blow up?
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Hypothetically speaking, lets say the plane got packed (I mean even the passenger seats as well as the luggage hold) full of C4 or a lesser explosive, and got flown into a major city, how much shit could they blow up?
Or iseal or usa blew it out of the sky full with bombs (or bluffing its loaded with a weapon) and its Chinese citizen pasangers
Would china see it as an act of war?
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This Malaysian plane crash is becoming one of the most mysterious crash in aviation history.....now they're saying they may not find whatever is left of this plane for months or until things start washing ashore.........
It did not crash.
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Hypothetically speaking, lets say the plane got packed (I mean even the passenger seats as well as the luggage hold) full of C4 or a lesser explosive, and got flown into a major city, how much shit could they blow up?
I would guess not a whole lot more damage than the plane hitting a building. The initial blast would be larger.
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I just found "4400" on Netflix... a cool show from a few years back. I like that sci-fi, cop, concept kinda shows. I'd recommend it. Good background tv while doing other things, some really cool moments.
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Damn I never heard of diego garcia, google mapped it, looks like a floating landing strip in the middle of no fucking where , crazy , right in its range of travel
It's so "secret", that you can google it (pics of B-1 bombers) and it has a wiki page...
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You want a transponder? I can get you a transponder, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
Hell, I can get you a transponder by 3 o'clock this afternoon... a clean ID number. These fucking amateurs...
Walter from The Big Lebowski
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Walter from The Big Lebowski
good catch. I scratched my head for a ling time... I recognized the quote, but couldnt place it.
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Nobody would steal the plane and then later use it as a bomb. They would just use it as a bomb as soon as they stole the damn thing. It had 10,000 gallons of fuel onboard and weighs 200 tons. I think we know what sort of damage that can do.
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Nobody would steal the plane and then later use it as a bomb. They would just use it as a bomb as soon as they stole the damn thing. It had 10,000 gallons of fuel onboard and weighs 200 tons. I think we know what sort of damage that can do.
Correct. The chances of stealing it, flying several thousand miles nap of the earth below radar, and then arming it, taking back off, and slipping back into air traffic without any noticing are so ludicrously small that its almost laughable IMO.
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Nobody would steal the plane and then later use it as a bomb. They would just use it as a bomb as soon as they stole the damn thing. It had 10,000 gallons of fuel onboard and weighs 200 tons. I think we know what sort of damage that can do.
This is exactly what I've been saying. Turn around time is to long.
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I just found "4400" on Netflix... a cool show from a few years back. I like that sci-fi, cop, concept kinda shows. I'd recommend it. Good background tv while doing other things, some really cool moments.
Did you ever see that show a few years back, Flash Forward? I thought it was pretty cool but it just didn't make it. There was a plane crash in it, so it made me think of that.
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People saying that this and that couldn't have been done, you have to remember this was likely years in planning and planned by professional pilots and flight engineers.This article I read today explains how once it turned north and started to go over land, it could have shadowed another flight, appearing as just the flight with its transponder on to the Indians, Pakistan etc.As the Malaysian flights transponder was off, the flight above it that it was shadowing would not be able to see it, but the Malaysian flight could see the flight it was shadowing on its radar.
http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68
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And now its been revealed that the voice that spoke to ATC after the transponders were turned off was from the CO-pilot.....
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The entire world isn't mapped and monitored for radar. If it was that plane would have been tracked. Possibility it's in Pakistan. Fully fueled it could reach NY.
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The entire world isn't mapped and monitored for radar. If it was that plane would have been tracked. Possibility it's in Pakistan. Fully fueled it could reach NY.
they cant be to happy that America went into their country to kill bin ladan without their approval
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The entire world isn't mapped and monitored for radar. If it was that plane would have been tracked. Possibility it's in Pakistan. Fully fueled it could reach NY.
Geez, we'd lay that country to waste, they can't be that dumb can they. Let sleeping dogs lie.
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fuck you amelia earhart
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Walter from The Big Lebowski
Shit, I didn't get that at all. I was just doin a little pimpin.
I guess I should be embarrassed, but fuck it. It's not like I lost an airplane.
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You want a transponder? I can get you a transponder, believe me. There are ways, Dude. You don't wanna know about it, believe me.
Hell, I can get you a transponder by 3 o'clock this afternoon... a clean ID number. These fucking amateurs...
Brilliant, Roger.
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Did you ever see that show a few years back, Flash Forward? I thought it was pretty cool but it just didn't make it. There was a plane crash in it, so it made me think of that.
i loved that show. I liked it so much i actually bought the book, which I very rarely do.
Any more sci-fi netflix/hulu series youd recommend? I love that stuff. even if the love storylines are cheese or acting is lame. just the cool concepts.
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i loved that show. I liked it so much i actually bought the book, which I very rarely do.
Any more sci-fi netflix/hulu series youd recommend? I love that stuff. even if the love storylines are cheese or acting is lame. just the cool concepts.
Falling Skies.
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Falling Skies.
i watched the first 2 sesons. something about that last season finale... tom blasted the hot alien blonde chick. did they come back with a new season after that? For some reason I lost interest in that show... must have been on against breaking bad + something else cool on sunday nights at the time. i'm tivo-illiterate.
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I'm seeing the word "they" used a lot in this thread. Who's "they"
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I'm seeing the word "they" used a lot in this thread. Who's "they"
The evildoers.
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The chinks took it so they can tear it down, copy it and build them cheap. The new Broing LLL.
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i watched the first 2 sesons. something about that last season finale... tom blasted the hot alien blonde chick. did they come back with a new season after that? For some reason I lost interest in that show... must have been on against breaking bad + something else cool on sunday nights at the time. i'm tivo-illiterate.
the third season was when Tom had shot the human chick who was an alien queen.
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Think it's been asked in this thread before. What would they want to do with the plane?
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Think it's been asked in this thread before. What would they want to do with the plane?
cruise it on low doses
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The 20 scientists/ whatever seems to me to be the only real asset on the plane that someone would go after depending on what they know..saw..etc. nice and tidy all 20 of them in one place defenseless.
Just thinking out loud
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Maybe the terrorists will load designer viruses on the plane. Maybe crash it and try to wipe out a large population with the virus. Could be more deadly than a bomb.
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Think it's been asked in this thread before. What would they want to do with the plane?
I'm speculating here but it seems like if the plane were to be used as a weapon, and I'm not saying it is going to be; the best method for maximum destruction would be to take the airplane to as high an elevation as possible and then point it straight down or at an angle. The target would have to be a short distance from the launch site and land based in order to avoid detection and being shot down over a body of water before reaching the target.
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Musclecenter, whats the word around your asian side of town about this missing plane?
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Lost Jet’s Path Seen as Altered via Computer
Source: New York Times
WASHINGTON — The first turn to the west that diverted the missing Malaysia Airlines plane from its planned flight path from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing was carried out through a computer system that was most likely programmed by someone in the plane’s cockpit who was knowledgeable about airplane systems, according to senior American officials.
Instead of manually operating the plane’s controls, whoever altered Flight 370’s path typed seven or eight keystrokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and the first officer, according to officials. The Flight Management System, as the computer is known, directs the plane from point to point specified in the flight plan submitted before a flight. It is not clear whether the plane’s path was reprogrammed before or after it took off.
The fact that the turn away from Beijing was programmed into the computer has reinforced the belief of investigators — first voiced by Malaysian officials — that the plane was deliberately diverted and that foul play was involved. It has also increased their focus on the plane’s captain and first officer.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
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Lost Jet’s Path Seen as Altered via Computer
Source: New York Times
WASHINGTON — The first turn to the west that diverted the missing Malaysia Airlines plane from its planned flight path from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing was carried out through a computer system that was most likely programmed by someone in the plane’s cockpit who was knowledgeable about airplane systems, according to senior American officials.
Instead of manually operating the plane’s controls, whoever altered Flight 370’s path typed seven or eight keystrokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and the first officer, according to officials. The Flight Management System, as the computer is known, directs the plane from point to point specified in the flight plan submitted before a flight. It is not clear whether the plane’s path was reprogrammed before or after it took off.
The fact that the turn away from Beijing was programmed into the computer has reinforced the belief of investigators — first voiced by Malaysian officials — that the plane was deliberately diverted and that foul play was involved. It has also increased their focus on the plane’s captain and first officer.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-flight.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0
I read a theory that this may be the first cyber hijacking by hackers?
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I'm speculating here but it seems like if the plane were to be used as a weapon, and I'm not saying it is going to be; the best method for maximum destruction would be to take the airplane to as high an elevation as possible and then point it straight down or at an angle.
The maximum take off weight is 545,000 lbs.
Subtract the empty operating weight of 297,000 lbs.
31,000 gallons of fuel weigh 210,800 lbs.
A fully fueled Boeing 777 can lift 38,900 lbs. (military press or bench?)
So 19.45 tons of what ever, 6,000 miles.
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Who said, invest into aluminium ;D
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(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa235/maslow25/malaysia-gilligans-island-tragedy-airplane-blackbox-nsa-dragnet-distractions_zpsb4987147.jpg)
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The USA is trying to build "proof" that North Korea did this as a way to start a new war.
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straight Mad Max thunderdome shit
stealing the plane for the FUEL
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The USA is trying to build "proof" that North Korea did this as a way to start a new war.
Wouldn't be surprised
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The USA is trying to build "proof" that North Korea did this as a way to start a new war.
Wouldn't be surprised
Awesome :)
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The USA is trying to build "proof" that North Korea did this as a way to start a new war.
if the great peoples republic of north korea would want to start a war they would just invade your small shitty country with great vengeance and furious anger and in a 6 months your new president would hane a name that starts with kim
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The USA is trying to build "proof" that North Korea did this as a way to start a new war.
"Did this"?
Shot down the plane? Or Hijacked the Plane?
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Interesting story graphics from the Pol (ask if you don't know how to view full sized).
A picture exists of this guy wearing a shirt showing "Democracy is Dead", and that, along with his support of a recently jailed political figure in his country, is causing him to be focused on more than ever:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/15/article-2581817-1C5441ED00000578-457_964x1609.jpg)
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/15/article-2581817-1C54454700000578-32_964x1069.jpg)
(http://www.herald.co.zw/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/MH370-pilot.jpg)
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Interesting story graphics from the Pol (ask if you don't know how to view full sized).
A picture exists of this guy wearing a shirt showing "Democracy is Dead", and that, along with his support of a recently jailed political figure in his country, is causing him to be focused on more than ever:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/15/article-2581817-1C5441ED00000578-457_964x1609.jpg)
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/15/article-2581817-1C54454700000578-32_964x1069.jpg)
(http://www.herald.co.zw/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/MH370-pilot.jpg)
Seems a likely suspect, but what's his end game?
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Seems a likely suspect, but what's his end game?
I'd like to know more, but wearing a t-shirt and getting angry about someone being jailed doesn't do it for me. The fact that he also happened to be the pilot on a missing jet makes the hub-bub understandable, though.
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Interesting story graphics from the Pol (ask if you don't know how to view full sized).
A picture exists of this guy wearing a shirt showing "Democracy is Dead", and that, along with his support of a recently jailed political figure in his country, is causing him to be focused on more than ever:
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/15/article-2581817-1C5441ED00000578-457_964x1609.jpg)
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/15/article-2581817-1C54454700000578-32_964x1069.jpg)
(http://www.herald.co.zw/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/MH370-pilot.jpg)
I think this has already been checked out.
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I think this has already been checked out.
What's up with it now?
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I'd like to know more, but wearing a t-shirt and getting angry at someone being jailed doesn't do it for me. The fact that he also happened to be the pilot on a missing jet makes the hub-bub understandable, though.
Lol, probably a distraction.
How convenient. Dude might even be a spook plant
There is some serious shit going on between big governments behind the scenes imo
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Something very valuable must be on that flight ;)
$$$$$$$ ???
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Something very valuable must be on that flight ;)
$$$$$$$ ???
like mint condition FLEX mags from the 1980s?
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like mint condition FLEX mags from the 1980s?
time to call snake plissken
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like mint condition FLEX mags from the 1980s?
Minerals ;)
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So "Democracy is Dead" appears to be a common slogan linked to widespread opposition in Malaysia. In itself, there's nothing spectacular about this guy wearing that very common shirt or getting angry about the jailing of a popular person in that movement. Lots of non-threatening, sane people were/are doing the same thing there. It's only because he was the pilot, that might make it interesting.
I'd like to know what most resists the idea of it flying through its fuel before going into remote water. Of course there is a great argument against that, but what is it?
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I'd like to know more, but wearing a t-shirt and getting angry at someone being jailed doesn't do it for me. The fact that he also happened to be the pilot on a missing jet makes the hub-bub understandable, though.
I read another theory that maybe he "shadowed" another 777 so that he wouldn't be detected by radar crossing countries airspace.
Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68 (another 777)?
http://mh370shadow.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68
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I'd like to know more about the relationship the pilot had with the person who'd been jailed, too.
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I'd like to know more about the relationship the pilot had with the person who'd been jailed, too.
Uh oh. The gay lover angle.
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Minerals ;)
Prototype Weider Mineral Water? Guaranteed to give your daily allowance of vitamins and minerals, and help to stave off going catabolic? It's been said that this has been undergoing secret testing for years. And that it would revolutize Water as we know it.
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I read another theory that maybe he "shadowed" another 777 so that he wouldn't be detected by radar crossing countries airspace.
Did Malaysian Airlines 370 disappear using SIA68 (another 777)?
http://mh370shadow.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68
Yeah I remember this. Do you know if anyone's argued against it in any way as an idea?
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Yeah I remember this. Do you know if anyone's argued against it in any way as an idea?
Every thing I've read says how brilliant that theory is. I haven't seen one argument or critique against it anywhere.
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Uh oh. The gay lover angle.
Not necessarily, no. But anything like that (some level of commitment beyond their obvious shared cause, etc.)
It seems like they may have been related, but looking at it and might post something in a sec.
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Lol, probably a distraction.
How convenient. Dude might even be a spook plant
There is some serious shit going on between big governments behind the scenes imo
Seems to me, if the plane didn't simply run through fuel and sink into a remote site, then we may have big problems waiting to happen.
Honestly, though, my inclination is to say that's what happened. It was deliberately run out of juice and sunk. Against everything else, what seems the most likely? Really, that's the only way I've seen to look at it.
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Seems to me, if the plane didn't simply run through fuel and sink into a remote site, then we may have big problems waiting to happen.
Honestly, though, my inclination is to say that's what happened. It was deliberately run out of juice and sunk. Against everything else, what seems the most likely? Really, that's the only way I've seen to look at it.
Nah, that thing landed somewhere.
How hard is it to find a sinking plane when so many governments are looking.
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Does anyone else feel, like me, that some of these passengers could've been bodybuilders and thus missed their anabolic windows? Is there no justice for those folks?
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The guy that's been jailed is related to the pilot through an in-law channel, for whatever that's worth. The jailed guy (name is Anwar Ibrahim, a politician of sorts) says he's met him "a few times". Originally, he claimed not to recognize the pilot's name.
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I saw this on ATS the other day: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1002982/pg1&mem=
Now it's being reported by the MSM: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583807/Did-Malaysian-tuna-fisherman-missing-flight-MH370-flying-low-Gulf-Thailand-tried-stay-radar.html
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Cnn said the battery on the Black box flight recorder is only good for another 19 after that it will stop sending signals , and after that time it may never be found
If its pinging then why cant it be found ??? ???
(http://metaldetectingforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=145603&stc=1&d=1331650820)
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Nah, that thing landed somewhere.
How hard is it to find a sinking plane when so many governments are looking.
I'm concerned about the false reports of wreckage (that occurred during the early stages of this)[
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Yeah, about the pinging. Does anyone here know anything about that technology?
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I saw this on ATS the other day: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1002982/pg1&mem=
Now it's being reported by the MSM: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583807/Did-Malaysian-tuna-fisherman-missing-flight-MH370-flying-low-Gulf-Thailand-tried-stay-radar.html
I just saw a report that covered the villagers in this article. Interesting, for sure.
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Yeah, about the pinging. Does anyone here know anything about that technology?
The device is known as an underwater locator beacon, and it's attached to the black box, and sometimes they are mounted on the airplanes fuselage too.
If a plane crashes into the water, this beacon sends out an ultrasonic pulse that cannot be heard by human ears but is readily detectable by sonar and acoustical locating equipment. There is a submergence sensor on the side of the beacon that looks like a bull's-eye. When water touches this sensor, it activates the beacon.
The beacon sends out pulses at 37.5 kilohertz (kHz) and can transmit sound as deep as 14,000 feet (4,267 m). Once the beacon begins "pinging," it pings once per second for 30 days.
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Cnn said the battery on the Black box flight recorder is only good for another 19 after that it will stop sending signals , and after that time it may never be found
If its pinging then why cant it be found ??? ???
(http://metaldetectingforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=145603&stc=1&d=1331650820)
Because we don't want it found.
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The device is known as an underwater locator beacon, and it's attached to the black box, and sometimes they are mounted on the airplanes fuselage too.
If a plane crashes into the water, this beacon sends out an ultrasonic pulse that cannot be heard by human ears but is readily detectable by sonar and acoustical locating equipment. There is a submergence sensor on the side of the beacon that looks like a bull's-eye. When water touches this sensor, it activates the beacon.
The beacon sends out pulses at 37.5 kilohertz (kHz) and can transmit sound as deep as 14,000 feet (4,267 m). Once the beacon begins "pinging," it pings once per second for 30 days.
Something separate from the ping device that is maintenance related, obviously.
What do you know about all possible devices that would ping (other than what we know to have been disabled)?
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..obviously the device Nails is talking about shouldn't have been pinging unless the plane was sunk, right? ("19 days left", and it has now been 11 days since the disappearance)
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They are talking about audibly pinging. Sound waves that can be detected by naval hydrophones.
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They are talking about audibly pinging. Sound waves that can be detected by naval hydrophones.
...but in a device that is water-activated, right? That's what I'm missing.
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...but in a device that is water-activated, right? That's what I'm missing.
The underwater locater beacons only start pinging when they come into contact with water. Different countries have different regulations regarding their use. Some countries require locater beacons to be attached to the airplane fuselage as well as to the black box.
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The underwater locater beacons only start pinging when they come into contact with water. Different countries have different regulations regarding their use. Some countries require locater beacons to be attached to the airplane fuselage as well as to the black box.
So what the hell is CNN talking about? (from Nails post above)
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Nails, can you post that article
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Nails, can you post that article
Its the first video
Cnn.com (http://Cnn.com)
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Could have either of the pilots removed the black box before take off? Is that even possible?
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Wasn't this flight mainly filled with chinks and chinamen? Aren't they replaceable like robots? There's like 2 big Bills of them..
Not sure what the big deal is... bigger fish to fry IMO..
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Wasn't this flight mainly filled with chinks and chinamen? Aren't they replaceable like robots? There's like 2 big Bills of them..
Not sure what the big deal is... bigger fish to fry IMO..
no use crying over a couple spilled chinamen
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They must have switched content. There's a video now that talks about how easy it would be to change navigation on the fly (watched it through and they didn't mention the pinging). Sometimes they'll put something up that's just so dumb they have to reverse it.
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Nah, that thing landed somewhere.
How hard is it to find a sinking plane when so many governments are looking.
The early wreckage reports are just too suspicious to go unnoticed, obviously. It pulled a lot of energy away from elsewhere at possibly the worst time.
And remember, too, it wasn't sinking/sunk:
(Malaysian Prime Minister) Najib said Saturday that the flight was still communicating with satellites until 8:11 a.m. — seven and a half hours after takeoff, and more than 90 minutes after it was due in Beijing
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Nah, that thing landed somewhere.
How hard is it to find a sinking plane when so many governments are looking.
Dude, the search site is the size of North America. Not as simple as you'd suspect.
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Hypothetically speaking, running her out of fuel or coming very near to doing that, would reduce evidence on the surface if it was taken down. The duration with satellite communication roughly lines up with the amount of fuel, too.
But that could be an intentional false diversion if in fact it was landed somewhere. That would mean it was landed and run for the balance of time, it seems (or landed near the point of fuel exhaustion).
I'll say, it's hard to believe there isn't a lot more satellite information than what's been claimed.
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The idea is that if the plane went down, and is currently pinging, if we don't find it within the next 19 days then we may never find it. So that's what it is.
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...definitely not to be confused with the maintenance ping, which is what was known to have communicated about 7.5 hours from after takeoff.
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Former General, Gen. McInerney on Hannity Tonight Believes The Missing Plane Is Intact and in Pakistan
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/03/18/lt-gen-mcinerney-flight-370-could-have-landed-pakistan
Boeing Source: Missing Plane in Pakistan
March 17, 2014
The Malaysian government reportedly is investigating the possibility that missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 avoided radar detection and landed in Pakistan near the Afghanistan border inside Taliban-controlled territory, according to the UK Independent . . . investigators confiscated a homemade flight simulator from the pilot’s home to see if it reveals any useful information . . . the Malaysian foreign minister told reporters that Malaysia asked several Asian countries for assistance in its investigation, including Pakistan . . . Pakistan dismissed the idea that a Boeing 777 could land undetected inside the country but promised to work with the Malaysian government in its search for the missing plane . . . a LIGNET analyst received information from a source at Boeing that the company believes the plane did land in Pakistan . . . Israel is taking the possibility of a terrorist attack seriously by mobilizing air defenses and scrutinizing approaching civilian aircraft, according to the Times of Israel . . . a Boeing 777 requires a lengthy, 7,500-foot runway, and Pakistan has many of them, meaning Flight 370 could conceivably be hidden in a hangar inside the country . . . U.S. surveillance of the area may be able to shed light on the theory through satellite imagery or signals intelligence.
Read more: http://www.lignet.com/InBriefs/Malaysia-Hunts-for-Missing-Jet-in-Pakistan-Israel-.aspx#ixzz2wNeZQ2PR
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Wonder why Thailand did like they did. What the fuck's up with that.
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https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13cv1gohsmbv5jmy221vrfyiz3vdhbop04
The Best Flight 370 Scenario So Far - Theory of an actual pilot
It is in two parts. One was the original part before further information was released, and the other was a update taking into account the new information, and answering many questions posted afterwards.
MH370 A different point of view. Pulau Langkawi 13,000 runway.
A lot of speculation about MH370. Terrorism, hijack, meteors. I cannot believe the analysis on CNN - almost disturbing. I tend to look for a more simple explanation of this event.
Loaded 777 departs midnight from Kuala to Beijing. Hot night. Heavy aircraft. About an hour out across the gulf towards Vietnam the plane goes dark meaning the transponder goes off and secondary radar tracking goes off.
Two days later we hear of reports that Malaysian military radar (which is a primary radar meaning the plane is being tracked by reflection rather than by transponder interrogation response) has tracked the plane on a southwesterly course back across the Malay Peninsula into the straits of Malacca.
When I heard this I immediately brought up Google Earth and I searched for airports in proximity to the track towards southwest.
The left turn is the key here. This was a very experienced senior Captain with 18,000 hours. Maybe some of the younger pilots interviewed on CNN didn't pick up on this left turn. We old pilots were always drilled to always know the closest airport of safe harbor while in cruise. Airports behind us, airports abeam us and airports ahead of us. Always in our head. Always. Because if something happens you don't want to be thinking what are you going to do - you already know what you are going to do. Instinctively when I saw that left turn with a direct heading I knew he was heading for an airport. Actually he was taking a direct route to Palau Langkawi a 13,000 foot strip with an approach over water at night with no obstacles. He did not turn back to Kuala Lampur because he knew he had 8,000 foot ridges to cross. He knew the terrain was friendlier towards Langkawi and also a shorter distance.
Take a look on Google Earth at this airport. This pilot did all the right things. He was confronted by some major event onboard that made him make that immediate turn back to the closest safe airport.
For me the loss of transponders and communications makes perfect sense if a fire. There was most likely a fire or electrical fire. In the case of fire the first response if to pull all the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one.
If they pulled the busses the plane indeed would go silent. It was probably a serious event and they simply were occupied with controlling the plane and trying to fight the fire. Aviate, Navigate and lastly communicate. There are two types of fires. Electrical might not be as fast and furious and there might or might not be incapacitating smoke. However there is the possibility given the timeline that perhaps there was an overheat on one of the front landing gear tires and it blew on takeoff and started slowly burning. Yes this happens with underinflated tires. Remember heavy plane, hot night, sea level, long run takeoff. There was a well known accident in Nigeria of a DC8 that had a landing gear fire on takeoff. A tire fire once going would produce horrific incapacitating smoke. Yes, pilots have access to oxygen masks but this is a no no with fire. Most have access to a smoke hood with a filter but this will only last for a few minutes depending on the smoke level. (I used to carry one of my own in a flight bag and I still carry one in my briefcase today when I fly).
What I think happened is that they were overcome by smoke and the plane just continued on the heading probably on George (autopilot) until either fuel exhaustion or fire destroyed the control surfaces and it crashed. I said four days ago you will find it along that route - looking elsewhere was pointless.
This pilot, as I say, was a hero struggling with an impossible situation trying to get that plane to Langkawi. No doubt in my mind. That's the reason for the turn and direct route. A hijack would not have made that deliberate left turn with a direct heading for Langkawi. It would probably have weaved around a bit until the hijackers decided on where they were taking it.
Surprisingly none of the reporters , officials, other pilots interviewed have looked at this from the pilot's viewpoint. If something went wrong where would he go? Thanks to Google earth I spotted Langkawi in about 30 seconds, zoomed in and saw how long the runway was and I just instinctively knew this pilot knew this airport. He had probably flown there many times. I guess we will eventually find out when you help me spread this theory on the net and some reporters finally take a look on Google earth and put 2 and 2 together. Also a look at the age and number of cycles on those nose tires might give us a good clue too.
Fire in an aircraft demands one thing - you get the machine on the ground as soon as possible. There are two well remembered experiences in my memory. The AirCanada DC9 which landed I believe in Columbus Ohio in the eighties. That pilot delayed descent and bypassed several airports. He didn't instinctively know the closest airports. He got it on the ground eventually but lost 30 odd souls. In the 1998 crash of Swissair DC-10 off Nova Scotia was another example of heroic pilots. They were 15 minutes out of Halifax but the fire simply overcame them and they had to ditch in the ocean. Just ran out of time. That fire incidentally started when the aircraft was about an hour out of Kennedy. Guess what the transponders and communications were shut off as they pulled the busses.
Get on Google Earth and type in Pulau Langkawi and then look at it in relation to the radar track heading. 2+2=4 That for me is the simple explanation why it turned and headed in that direction.
Smart pilot. Just didn't have the time.
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Part 2:
Diego and all who have commented - thank you.
I wrote this post before the information regarding the engines continuing to run for approximately six hours and the fact it seems acars was shut down before the transponder.
The continued speculation of hijack and/or murder suicide and the latest this morning that there was a flight engineer on board that is being investigated does not do much to sway me in favour of foul play until I am presented with evidence of foul play.
My post received a lot of comments on Reddit as well if some of you wish to read those. www.reddit.com MH370.
Now let me deal with Diego's request for my present view in light of new evidence.
We know there was a last voice transmission that from a pilot's point of view (POV) was entirely normal. The good night is customary on a hand -off to a new ATC control. The good night also indicates STRONGLY to me all was OK on the flight deck. Remember there are many ways a pilot can communicate distress - the hijack code or even a transponder code different by one digit from assigned would alert ATC that something was wrong. Every good pilot knows keying an SOS over the mike is always an option even three short clicks would raise an alert.
So I conclude at that point of voice transmission all was perceived as well on the flight deck by the pilots.
But things could have been in the process of going wrong unknown to the pilots -
Evidently the ACARS went inoperative some time before. Disabling the ACARS is not easy as pointed out. This leads me to believe more in an electric or electric fire issue than a manual shutdown. I suggest the pilots were probably not aware it was not transmitting.
The next event is the turn to the SW in what appears direct Langkawi.
As I said in the first post the pilot probably had this in his head already.
Someone said why didn't he go to KBR on north coast of Malaysia which was closer. That's a 6,000 foot runway and to put that plane down on a 6,000 foot strip at night uncertain of your aircraft's entire systems is not an option. I would expect the pilot would consider ditching before a 6,000 runway if still above maximum landing weight which he likely was.
The safest runway in the region to make the approach was certainly Langkawi - no obstacles over water with a long flat approach. In my humble opinion this 18,000 hour pilot knew this instinctively.
Reports of altitude fluctuations. Well given that this was not transponder generated data but primary radar at maybe 200 miles the azimuth readings can be affected by a lot of atmospherics and I would not have high confidence in this being totally reliable. But let's accept for a minute he might have ascended to 45,000 in a last ditch effort to quell a fire by seeking the lowest level of oxygen. It is an acceptable scenario in my opinion. At 45,000 it would be tough to keep this aircraft stable as the flight envelope is very narrow and loss of control in a stall is entirely possible. The aircraft is at the top of its operational ceiling. The reported rapid rates of descent could have been generated by a stall and recovery at 25,000. The pilot may even have been diving the aircraft to extinguish flames. All entirely possible.
But going to 45,000 in a hijack scenario doesn't make any good sense to me.
The question of the time the plane flew on.
On departing Kuala he would have had fuel for Beijing and alternate probably Shanghai and 45 minutes. Say 8 hours. Maybe more. He burned 20-25% in first hour with takeoff, climb to cruise. So when the turn was made towards Langkawi he would have had six hours or more. This correlates nicely with the immarsat data pings being received until fuel exhaustion.
The apparent now known continued flight until TTFE time to fuel exhaustion only actually confirms to me the crew were incapacitated and the flight continued on deep into the south Indian ocean.
There really is no point in speculating further until more evidence surfaces but in the meantime it serves no purpose to malign the pilots who well may have been in an heroic struggle to save this aircraft from a fire or other serious mechanical issue and were overcome.
I hope the investigation team looks at the maintenance records of the front gear tires - cycles, last pressure check and maintenance inspection. Captain or F/O as part of pre-flight looks at tires. Is there any video at the airport to support pre-flight walkaround? Any damage on pushback? A day after I wrote the original post a plane in the U.S. blew a tire in takeoff and the t/o was fortunately aborted with a burning tire.
Hopefully - and I believe now it is a slim hope - the wreckage will be found and the FDR and VDR will be recovered and provide us with insight. Until facts prove otherwise, I would give the Captain the benefit of respect and professional courtesy.
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^It's really difficult to believe a single thing would have been done before sending a distress call, though. But I suppose you never know.
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...but, yeah, it is interesting.
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To think it wasn't possible to send a call...it really stretches the imagination too far. Hard to believe.
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LMAO I was just watching CNN and one of the 'experts' being interviewed by the hebrew host said very pompously, "And let's just put to rest right now these fringe theories that this thing is in a hangar somewhere!" To his credit the hebrew said, "well we need to entertain all possibilities..." but then they proceeded to take the most softball questions from twitters, and the 'experts' only talked about softball theories.
The media is so gone it's unbelievable.
This is all they talk about now on CNN in permanent rotation.
Suddenly Russia and Ukraine are out of the rotation.
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LMAO I was just watching CNN and one of the 'experts' being interviewed by the hebrew host said very pompously, "And let's just put to rest right now these fringe theories that this thing is in a hangar somewhere!" To his credit the hebrew said, "well we need to entertain all possibilities..." but then they proceeded to take the most softball questions from twitters, and the 'experts' only talked about softball theories.
The media is so gone it's unbelievable.
This is all they talk about now on CNN in permanent rotation.
Suddenly Russia and Ukraine are out of the rotation.
Yeah, it is so fucked. I can't even watch the shit anymore.
If you stay away from it for a while, then look at it again, you will not believe how fake it seems.
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Yeah, it is so fucked. I can't even watch the shit anymore.
If you stay away from it for a while, then look at it again, you will not believe how fake it seems.
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
Haven't watched CNN in a long time.
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I wonder how China will respond if it is confirmed that Middle Eastern terrorists killed 150+ Chinese civilians in order to obtain a plane.
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I wonder how China will respond if it is confirmed that Middle Eastern terrorists killed 150+ Chinese civilians in order to obtain a plane.
"ching chong, ching chong, ling lang wing wong"
their response, verbatim.
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I wonder how China will respond if it is confirmed that Middle Eastern terrorists killed 150+ Chinese civilians in order to obtain a plane.
Nuking the Middle East would be a good start! :D
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Nuking the Middle East would be a good start! :D
and rosengård, södertälje
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Cnn said the battery on the Black box flight recorder is only good for another 19 after that it will stop sending signals , and after that time it may never be found
If its pinging then why cant it be found ??? ???
(http://metaldetectingforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=145603&stc=1&d=1331650820)
That's how Ron makes his money to support getbig
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Yeah, it is so fucked. I can't even watch the shit anymore.
If you stay away from it for a while, then look at it again, you will not believe how fake it seems.
Just heard on Fox News that they may have coordinated via radio with whatever remote airport they landed at, and that as we now know the NSA records everything so this may be the solution.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... ............
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Connecting the dots: Missing Malaysia Airlines plane a terror attack aimed at China?
Published time: March 18, 2014 09:28
While the terror angle behind the missing Malaysia Airline Boeing 777 plane is being probed, there are several questions which, though unanswered yet, can help in piecing together this jigsaw puzzle.
CIA Director John Brennan made a significant remark on March 12 that his agency has “not at all” ruled out terrorism as possibly having played a part in the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370. He also said that there have not been any credible claims of responsibility from terrorist groups for the plane’s disappearance.
Obviously Brennan couldn’t have been unaware of claim of responsibility for the plane’s disappearance by the Chinese Martyrs’ Brigade – unheard of before now. This outfit had released a statement through an impossible-to-trace encrypted Hushmail anonymous service on March 9 saying: "You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as payback." According to the statement it was a response to the Chinese government for its persecution of the Uyghur ethnic minority.
This implies that the CIA chief attaches no importance to the claim, something which Malaysia's acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein has debunked in an on-record statement.
The needle of suspicion over the mysterious disappearance of MH 370 would inevitably point to the Chinese Uighurs if investigators conclude that the Malaysian plane was indeed a victim of terrorism.
The Muslim Uighur community is one of China’s 56 ethnic minorities which is in majority in the restive Xinjiang Autonomous Region. They have had a brief taste of independence as East Turkestan at least twice (in 1933 and 1950) but this independence proved to be short-lived. The Uighurs still harbor ambitions of becoming an independent state, a red rag for Beijing.
However, no such conclusive evidence has emerged yet. The Uighurs have come under the scanner because of ‘circumstantial evidence’. The MH 370 episode has come close on the heels of the March 1 terror incident in which knife-wielding assailants had killed at least 29 innocent people at a train station in the southwestern Chinese city of Kunming.
Also, of the 227 passengers on board MH 370 (apart from 12 crew members) at least 153 were Chinese nationals, a fact that must have been known to the perpetrators.
Besides, Uighurs continue to have links with Al-Qaeda-affiliated group, Jemaah Islamiyah, which has a presence in Malaysia, as well as the Philippines and Indonesia.
Nevertheless, there may be several reasons why the shadowy group’s claim is bogus and is just trying to make hay while the sun shines. First, the outfit has not given any details of the plane which is being searched by 12 countries’ navies. Six days after its disappearance, nobody knows what has happened to the ill-fated plane. Second, it may just be an attempt to whip up ethnic tensions between Uighurs and Han Chinese in China.
Third, hardcore terrorists seldom claim responsibility for their acts, as shown by the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database according to which the perpetrators claimed responsibility for their acts in only 14 percent of the more than 45,000 terrorist acts that have occurred since 1998.
Read more: http://rt.com/op-edge/malaysia-plane-terror-attack-550/
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Guys I know where the plane is, I just figured it out and can't believe this has been overlooked
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Someone found the Plane!!!
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Guys I know where the plane is, I just figured it out and can't believe this has been overlooked
Go on...
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Guys I know where the plane is, I just figured it out and can't believe this has been overlooked
Haha yes, talk about forgetting to look where it's most obvious!
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Haha yes, talk about forgetting to look where it's most obvious!
the "Tbomz anus" theory has already been discussed
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Why are the CIA sticking their noses in this? Its nothing to do with them happened on the other side of the world with out a US citizen on board
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Have to consider that Malaysia could be giving false information, too.
We're acting on the idea they're giving true information, which is all we can do right now.
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Why are the CIA sticking their noses in this? Its nothing to do with them happened on the other side of the world with out a US citizen on board
There were a few.
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There was an argument on Slate, against the fire theory. Here's an excerpt:
Goodfellow’s theory fails further when one remembers the electronic ping detected by the Inmarsat satellite at 8:11 on the morning of March 8. According to analysis provided by the Malaysian and United States governments, the pings narrowed the location of MH370 at that moment to one of two arcs, one in Central Asia and the other in the southern Indian Ocean. As MH370 flew from its original course toward Langkawi, it was headed toward neither. Without human intervention—which would go against Goodfellow’s theory—it simply could not have reached the position we know it attained at 8:11 a.m.
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Apparently the sat data has further narrowed it to this small area
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/International/abc_malaysia_map_search_area-kb_140319_16x9_992.jpg)
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Why are the CIA sticking their noses in this? Its nothing to do with them happened on the other side of the world with out a US citizen on board
Because it is in the United States interest to determine what the hell happened.
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There was an argument on Slate, against the fire theory. Here's an excerpt:
Goodfellow’s theory fails further when one remembers the electronic ping detected by the Inmarsat satellite at 8:11 on the morning of March 8. According to analysis provided by the Malaysian and United States governments, the pings narrowed the location of MH370 at that moment to one of two arcs, one in Central Asia and the other in the southern Indian Ocean. As MH370 flew from its original course toward Langkawi, it was headed toward neither. Without human intervention—which would go against Goodfellow’s theory—it simply could not have reached the position we know it attained at 8:11 a.m.
The power of the US military and technology makes me feel pleh. Merica
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Yeah, that's the second arc that Army posted.
The 8:11 ping was the last, obviously. So why wouldn't the search have been directed there as soon as the info was processed?
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??? ::)
(http://i.imgur.com/Nw2vWLx.png)
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I know you guys like bantering about the crazy conspiracy theories but sometimes doing so you overlook what probably happened.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/#disqus_thread
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Connecting the dots: Missing Malaysia Airlines plane a terror attack aimed at China?
Published time: March 18, 2014 09:28
While the terror angle behind the missing Malaysia Airline Boeing 777 plane is being probed, there are several questions which, though unanswered yet, can help in piecing together this jigsaw puzzle.
CIA Director John Brennan made a significant remark on March 12 that his agency has “not at all” ruled out terrorism as possibly having played a part in the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370. He also said that there have not been any credible claims of responsibility from terrorist groups for the plane’s disappearance.
Obviously Brennan couldn’t have been unaware of claim of responsibility for the plane’s disappearance by the Chinese Martyrs’ Brigade – unheard of before now. This outfit had released a statement through an impossible-to-trace encrypted Hushmail anonymous service on March 9 saying: "You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as payback." According to the statement it was a response to the Chinese government for its persecution of the Uyghur ethnic minority.
This implies that the CIA chief attaches no importance to the claim, something which Malaysia's acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein has debunked in an on-record statement.
The needle of suspicion over the mysterious disappearance of MH 370 would inevitably point to the Chinese Uighurs if investigators conclude that the Malaysian plane was indeed a victim of terrorism.
The Muslim Uighur community is one of China’s 56 ethnic minorities which is in majority in the restive Xinjiang Autonomous Region. They have had a brief taste of independence as East Turkestan at least twice (in 1933 and 1950) but this independence proved to be short-lived. The Uighurs still harbor ambitions of becoming an independent state, a red rag for Beijing.
However, no such conclusive evidence has emerged yet. The Uighurs have come under the scanner because of ‘circumstantial evidence’. The MH 370 episode has come close on the heels of the March 1 terror incident in which knife-wielding assailants had killed at least 29 innocent people at a train station in the southwestern Chinese city of Kunming.
Also, of the 227 passengers on board MH 370 (apart from 12 crew members) at least 153 were Chinese nationals, a fact that must have been known to the perpetrators.
Besides, Uighurs continue to have links with Al-Qaeda-affiliated group, Jemaah Islamiyah, which has a presence in Malaysia, as well as the Philippines and Indonesia.
Nevertheless, there may be several reasons why the shadowy group’s claim is bogus and is just trying to make hay while the sun shines. First, the outfit has not given any details of the plane which is being searched by 12 countries’ navies. Six days after its disappearance, nobody knows what has happened to the ill-fated plane. Second, it may just be an attempt to whip up ethnic tensions between Uighurs and Han Chinese in China.
Third, hardcore terrorists seldom claim responsibility for their acts, as shown by the University of Maryland’s Global Terrorism Database according to which the perpetrators claimed responsibility for their acts in only 14 percent of the more than 45,000 terrorist acts that have occurred since 1998.
Read more: http://rt.com/op-edge/malaysia-plane-terror-attack-550/
you guys just post anything and everything. Have you read this and processed it?
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It has just been breaking news taht Australia apparently has found 2 pieces of debris from the plane
just repeating what was on tv just now
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Watching the breaking news now. If true, imagine how far the debris floated?
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Someone planted matching debris to make this go away. :o
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Someone planted matching debris to make this go away. :o
who knows in this day and age--anything can and is done
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:D
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Off the coast of Australia. I always suspect Lee Priest was involved! >:(
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Bout time someone dropped some scrap in the water and claimed the whole thing to be over. what were they waiting for?
LOL @ "losing a plane" for almost 2 weeks in this day and age. it boggles the mind.
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Go on...
Shit I forgot
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Bout time someone dropped some scrap in the water and claimed the whole thing to be over. what were they waiting for?
LOL @ "losing a plane" for almost 2 weeks in this day and age. it boggles the mind.
I bet it won't match. It will turn out to be something else.
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how the hell can they explain a switched off transponder(emits plain coordinates) without terrorism?
planes can go to 1.5km without being spotted by radars.
the thing missing is the motivation to steal a plane... wth
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LIES LIES LIES
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how the hell can they explain a switched off transponder(emits plain coordinates) without terrorism?
planes can go to 1.5km without being spotted by radars.
the thing missing is the motivation to steal a plane... wth
Well, I think that it is possible that the plane was stolen.... and it was chased down by an fighter jet; and it got rockets fired at it.
So it was either: 1) Hijacked and then was shot down, or 2) Hijacked and flown to Middle East
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Bout time someone dropped some scrap in the water and claimed the whole thing to be over. what were they waiting for?
LOL @ "losing a plane" for almost 2 weeks in this day and age. it boggles the mind.
This
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Well, I think that it is possible that the plane was stolen.... and it was chased down by an fighter jet; and it got rockets fired at it.
So it was either: 1) Hijacked and then was shot down, or 2) Hijacked and flown to Middle East
Could you imagine, if that happened and was later found out about? I think the people would actually revolt over some shit like that, that it would be the last straw. ME, being the rich asshole I am, would definitely have my scoots on, as some Hebrew would have my head on a pike.
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Whats taking so long to identify this floating trash? I thought this was rescue and recovery mission my 30 countries???
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Could you imagine, if that happened and was later found out about? I think the people would actually revolt over some shit like that, that it would be the last straw. ME, being the rich asshole I am, would definitely have my scoots on, as some Hebrew would have my head on a pike.
If the plane is in Pakistan... It will be interesting to see what happens.
I'm eager to see how China will retaliate. Because 153 Chinese citizens were murdered; just so middle eastern fanatics could obtain a plane
As somebody already posted; Israel has already amped up their Air Defenses big-time
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Whats taking so long to identify this floating trash? I thought this was rescue and recovery mission my 30 countries???
Thinking of how they are going to lie and say a bunch of floating condoms and bottles are plane wreckage They just need to be sure as not to hurt the feelings of the families that are no doubt probably on edge. Have some sort of sympathy.
How many $20 bills you into Big Louie for that avatar?
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Malaysian Airlines flight 370: the 2014 Hide & Seek World Champions
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Whats taking so long to identify this floating trash? I thought this was rescue and recovery mission my 30 countries???
Well, I think that it's night time over there right now. So you probably won't hear anything for a few hours.
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and they still cant find this fucking plane ::)
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/use-siri-to-see-what-flights-are-above-you-79987786926.html (https://www.yahoo.com/tech/use-siri-to-see-what-flights-are-above-you-79987786926.html)
Siri knows what’s up. Literally.
The sassy Apple personal assistant may have trouble understanding you sometimes, but she still has a couple of cool tricks up her sleeve. Case in point: Ask her, “What flights are above me?” or just say, “Planes overhead.” She’ll bring up a list of all the in-progress flights above your current location.
Let’s try it out, shall we?
First, ask the question. She’ll need to think a bit (and it’s better if she’s connected to WiFi).
(https://s3.yimg.com/cd/resizer/FIT_TO_WIDTH-w423/9540b26751c5728934e5f1b8fd764c5f623987e7)
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Then, out of nowhere, she’ll pull up a nice, clean grid of all the flights zooming around thousands of feet above you. It comes complete with the airline, flight number, altitude, and angle.
(https://s1.yimg.com/cd/resizer/FIT_TO_WIDTH-w423/f4814b705e4f5330132ba300d5df10dad277207a)
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(http://simhq.com/forum/files/usergals/2014/03/full-16055-76178-image.jpg)
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very unlikely that its aircraft debris:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/world/asia/missing-plane-q-and-a/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/world/asia/missing-plane-q-and-a/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)
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very unlikely that its aircraft debris:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/world/asia/missing-plane-q-and-a/index.html?hpt=hp_c1 (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/20/world/asia/missing-plane-q-and-a/index.html?hpt=hp_c1)
Correct.
Would pieces of the plane still be floating?
If the plane crashed into the water, large pieces would not still be floating by now, according to Steve Wallace, the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration's former director of accident investigation. But pieces of lightweight debris, not aircraft structure, could be floating days after the aircraft struck the water, he said. That could include life jackets and seat cushions.
HOWEVER,
It means that 50% of the people following the story will catch a glimpse of the news story and forget about it.
Now, the other 50% are just "conspiracy theorists that don't even watch the news" when they bring the story up again.
pretty clever shit lol...
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I believe it's in the drink.
Not necessarily this latest scene, but somewhere out there.
One thing's for sure, it's like the fucking twilight zone the way it's gone. No wonder everyone is suspicious. Any explanation why the search wasn't immediately moved to the last ping location (as in last Saturday at the latest)? This is what I don't understand.
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So if we can believe the information, the last ping was either somewhere within a certain arc on the southern water, or over central Asia (meaning land, obviously).
It was the last electronic ping, meaning the plane was definitely not below water at that time. That info was announced last Saturday (at that time, ALREADY A FUCKING WEEK since the disappearance). So why the search is only now being moved in response to that, two fucking weeks since this thing happened, I can't imagine.
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I'll say, there's plenty to be suspicious about with this story. Plenty.
No doubt about it.
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Ok I haven't read up on this yet but what is the problem?
Two weeks now. If they can't find it in two weeks, how will they ever find it? When do they drop the search?
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Malaysian Airlines flight 370: the 2014 Hide & Seek World Champions
Being from China, does talking about this crash make you emotional Chiro?
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This is very good. So wrong... But very good.
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There were two persons onboard that have not been showed to the public.
Plus there was onboard a group of technicians/cientists of new revolutionary energy sources that could jeopardize the oil cartels.
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There were two persons onboard that have not been showed to the public.
Plus there was onboard a group of technicians/cientists of new revolutionary energy sources that could jeopardize the oil cartels.
can you give a source to that?
show me the revolutionary new energy source.
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can you give a source to that?
show me the revolutionary new energy source.
I have read it in conspiracy theory site ;D.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=522191.0;attach=558751;image)
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Leonardo-DiCaprio-Toast-Fireworks-Gif.gif)
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Jack T., I'm not trolling you, but you seem to be almost on the verge of meltdown on this issue. Do you have family on board or something?
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I have read it in conspiracy theory site ;D.
lol
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Jack T., I'm not trolling you, but you seem to be almost on the verge of meltdown on this issue. Do you have family on board or something?
He is compulsive with events such as these. Almost like True Adonis was during the Boston Marathon.
Things that make you go hmmmmm..........
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:)
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Jack T., I'm not trolling you, but you seem to be almost on the verge of meltdown on this issue. Do you have family on board or something?
Hell yes, I'm angry for the families and loved ones. If you can see how perplexed we are, imagine how they feel day after day.
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Ok I haven't read up on this yet but what is the problem?
Two weeks now. If they can't find it in two weeks, how will they ever find it? When do they drop the search?
???
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???
Those people are all still alive on row boats waiting for pick up.
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Being from China, does talking about this crash make you emotional Chiro?
He is called Big "Chiro" Flex, not Big China Flex
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Sooo what are the getbig conspiracy theories today? We have had hijacking, the u.s. has it, landed somewhere and people are still alive.... What else?
Army of none help me out here.
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Sooo what are the getbig conspiracy theories today? We have had hijacking, the u.s. has it, landed somewhere and people are still alive.... What else?
Army of none help me out here.
I still think it went off course, we (or some other country) presumed hijacked, and someone (probably we) blew it out of the sky.
there was tge weird russian intelligence report linking this flight to the cargo being guarded by the 2 dead former SEALs from the trident group that were found 'OD'd' on the Maersk Alabama as well...
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who cares
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There are too many Asians anyway.
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This story has more legs then Oscar Pistorius
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asian are irrelevant people anyway. their lives doesnt have the value that the free white
west has.
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I know you guys like bantering about the crazy conspiracy theories but sometimes doing so you overlook what probably happened.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/#disqus_thread
It's been looked at. RB posted it. There's an argument against it, too. (check a few pages back)
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Until very recently, the searching has been done based upon information from the last radar pickup, and upon supposed wreckage sightings that have turned out to be false or fake. Obviously, that's different data than the actual last piece of information, which was an electronic ping. Approximately six hour difference between the last radar information and the last electronic ping.
The last electronic ping is what's most important, obviously, versus the last radar reading. The last radar reading is where the transponder was turned off, whereas the last electronic ping is, at the very least, more recent activity.
According to information from Reuters, the electronic ping would not indicate whether the plane was in the air or on the ground.
For an explanation as to why exact data wasn't recorded from that ping, according to information from Reuters, "...no data links were opened, the sources said, because the companies involved had not subscribed to that level of service from the satellite operator."
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The last radar reading is where the transponder was turned off, whereas the last electronic ping is, at the very least, more recent activity.
this is the part that baffles me.
We are supposed to believe that at any given second, the govts of the USA, china, russia, etc, aren't tracking every single one of the thousands of aircraft in the skies (even if not in realtime, but recording what is happening)?
I don't buy it. Even if it is thousands of flights at once, surely our radar is watching. I'm thinking even if they turn off transponder, someone is watching a plane saying "Hey, what's this guy up to", or there's some software to say "flight XYZ is in an area where planes don't usually go".
I mean, if SIRI can tell me where to find 20 escorts within 5 miles from my house, surely someone has invented something to set off alarms if a big ass airplane is where it shouldn't be? ???
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SIri does that?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B66OpUvsM4Y/UKP8fmr7LXI/AAAAAAAAHcQ/FZlTcGQ5uaw/s1600/siri_powergirl01-580x773.jpg)
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this is the part that baffles me.
We are supposed to believe that at any given second, the govts of the USA, china, russia, etc, aren't tracking every single one of the thousands of aircraft in the skies (even if not in realtime, but recording what is happening)?
I don't buy it. Even if it is thousands of flights at once, surely our radar is watching. I'm thinking even if they turn off transponder, someone is watching a plane saying "Hey, what's this guy up to", or there's some software to say "flight XYZ is in an area where planes don't usually go".
I mean, if SIRI can tell me where to find 20 escorts within 5 miles from my house, surely someone has invented something to set off alarms if a big ass airplane is where it shouldn't be? ???
More than a dozen years after 911, too. But without direct info to say otherwise, I guess it is what it is.
Also seems real difficult to believe that Boeing and/or Rolls Royce weren't collecting information for their own (legitimate) use, no matter what subscription to the information the carrier may have had. To think that data from these machines isn't processed for nearly every reasonable purpose imaginable (again, we're talking about legitimate, reasonable purposes that would be expected for standards and safety, etc.), really stretches belief for me. Think about liability concerns, for instance.
But it's the official line as it stands. It could be a situation where the truth is otherwise unbelievable.
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I still think it went off course, we (or some other country) presumed hijacked, and someone (probably we) blew it out of the sky.
there was tge weird russian intelligence report linking this flight to the cargo being guarded by the 2 dead former SEALs from the trident group that were found 'OD'd' on the Maersk Alabama as well...
you can't possibly believe that garbage?
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this is the part that baffles me.
We are supposed to believe that at any given second, the govts of the USA, china, russia, etc, aren't tracking every single one of the thousands of aircraft in the skies (even if not in realtime, but recording what is happening)?
I don't buy it. Even if it is thousands of flights at once, surely our radar is watching. I'm thinking even if they turn off transponder, someone is watching a plane saying "Hey, what's this guy up to", or there's some software to say "flight XYZ is in an area where planes don't usually go".
I mean, if SIRI can tell me where to find 20 escorts within 5 miles from my house, surely someone has invented something to set off alarms if a big ass airplane is where it shouldn't be? ???
what ive been told by som3 of my military friends that are better versed in that part of the world, os that those countries dont necessarily have the tech to use our tracming systems that are onboard that plane.
so while the PLANE has the ability to do all this fancy shit, the countries that the plane operates in only used the transponder to track it and they only knew what transponder it was because it had been assigned at its origin....
The countries themselves lack fhe sophisticated tracking gear needed to make use pf all the gizmos om the plane.
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you can't possibly believe that garbage?
you think its more likely that the transponder flipped itself off and then it flew 4 more hours (of course to boot) before it crashed for no apparent reason?
which sounds more likely to you? That an attempted hijacked ended tragically or that a planes transponder was flipped off, changed course, and then magically crashed for no reason?
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you think its more likely that the transponder flipped itself off and then it flew 4 more hours (of course to boot) before it crashed for no apparent reason?
which sounds more likely to you? That an attempted hijacked ended tragically or that a planes transponder was flipped off, changed course, and then magically crashed for no reason?
The plane was absolutely hijacked. That has been confirmed.
The list of conspiracy's:
Saudi's Targeting the Group of scientists on-board theory, secret cargo theory, Muslims stealing a passenger airline and flying it to Pakistan theory, 2 Iranians with stolen passport & bogus ID theory, dead navy SEALS theory, pilot furious over jailed politician theory, USA shot it down before terrorist could crash theory, dragons triangle BS
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For those following.....this is a preofessional pilots message board /site.
The MH370 thread at the top is up to 372 pages.
Somewhat technical but cool.
http://www.pprune.org/ (http://www.pprune.org/)
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Wooden pallet with strapping belts found Saturday in MH370 search is common in airline and shipping
Source: http://www.cnn.com/
Wooden pallet with strapping belts found Saturday in MH370 search is common in airline and shipping industries, Australian official says.
Read more: CNN Breaking News Alert
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asian are irrelevant people anyway. their lives doesnt have the value that the free white
west has.
I see them as highly evolved ants
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I see them as highly evolved ants
Wow....this is totally true
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Wow....this is totally true
Humans get circumcised, gooks get there antennae popped off.
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I see them as highly evolved ants
I see them as horny and irresponsible rabbits
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they they think they spotted the plan finally,
Pics from day
looks like a burned piece of under body of the plan
stay tuned for more pics
this could finally be it fellas .....
(http://ak0.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/2745188/preview/stock-footage-used-plastic-bottle-floating-and-polluting-on-water-surface-tons-of-bottles-and-jars.jpg)
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they they think they spotted the plan finally,
Pics from day
looks like a burned piece of under body of the plan
stay tuned for more pics
this could finally be it fellas .....
(http://ak0.picdn.net/shutterstock/videos/2745188/preview/stock-footage-used-plastic-bottle-floating-and-polluting-on-water-surface-tons-of-bottles-and-jars.jpg)
stock-footage-used-plastic-bottle-floating-and-polluting-on-water-surface-tons-of-bottles-and-jars.jpg, its just a stock picture of a bottle
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stock-footage-used-plastic-bottle-floating-and-polluting-on-water-surface-tons-of-bottles-and-jars.jpg, its just a stock picture of a bottle
(http://sharecovers.com/images/1542-angry-clint-eastwood-facebook-cover.jpg)
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this is the part that baffles me.
We are supposed to believe that at any given second, the govts of the USA, china, russia, etc, aren't tracking every single one of the thousands of aircraft in the skies (even if not in realtime, but recording what is happening)?
I don't buy it. Even if it is thousands of flights at once, surely our radar is watching. I'm thinking even if they turn off transponder, someone is watching a plane saying "Hey, what's this guy up to", or there's some software to say "flight XYZ is in an area where planes don't usually go".
I mean, if SIRI can tell me where to find 20 escorts within 5 miles from my house, surely someone has invented something to set off alarms if a big ass airplane is where it shouldn't be? ???
i can tell you dont / have probably never worked for a big, "high-tech" company
the whole "big brother intelligence network" thing that some people believe in... lol, just lol, is all i can say.
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i can tell you dont / have probably never worked for a big, "high-tech" company
the whole "big brother intelligence network" thing that some people believe in... lol, just lol, is all i can say.
You mean how the NSA has said that many tech companies knew that the NSA was collecting data aka spying on US citizens, but these companies were denying it (with a wink and a nudge, nudge).
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And so it ends....PIP to the people who died.
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From the Pilot Network (liberty posted link recently):
Inmarsat saying they have used Doppler effect to isolate the southern corridor and tested the theory on known flights. Hence their latest conclusion. Can only give a general location.
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(Inmarsat is the company responsible for the transfer of the satellite data involved)
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I cannot think of a more horrible, torturous way to die. I think about it every time I get on a flight.
At least the victims families have closure now.
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The Airline sent a text message to notify the families.
The Prime Minister's statement came after the airline sent a text message to relatives saying it "deeply regrets that we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those onboard survived."
Reporters could hear wailing from a briefing for relatives of missing passengers in Beijing. Some relatives were wheeled from the conference room on stretchers, and one group of relatives smashed the lens of a reporter's camera. A woman walked out of a briefing for relatives near Kuala Lumpur crying.
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I cannot think of a more horrible, torturous way to die. I think about it every time I get on a flight.
At least the victims families have closure now.
well, no bodies, no black box, no plane wreckage...but it's known for certain...I don't really see the closure, yet.
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And so it ends....PIP to the people who died.
PIP? Asians only lift chopsticks.
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well, no bodies, no black box, no plane wreckage...but it's known for certain...I don't really see the closure, yet.
Yes many of the experts and detectives here on getbig think it's all a conspiracy and the plane has landed somewhere.
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well, no bodies, no black box, no plane wreckage...but it's known for certain...I don't really see the closure, yet.
QFT
sounds like the Malaysian prime minister is just tired of this shit and wants to go back to his hut and fucking all his hoes he stop seeing after all this mess happened
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QFT
sounds like the Malaysian prime minister is just tired of this shit and wants to go back to his hut and fucking all his hoes he stop seeing after all this mess happened
x2.
'Ok weve pretended to look long enough time to end this shit'
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Yes many of the experts and detectives here on getbig think it's all a conspiracy and the plane has landed somewhere.
I don't know, and of course those were theories...but, the prime ministers is certain that it landed in the Indian Ocean off of Perth....
But, you have no plane, no bodies, no black box---but you know for certain? If someone is certain then they better produce some evidence of said "certainty".
Co-Worker: "Hey Bob, you're going to get fired today!"
Bob: "Wha...how do you know?"
Co-Worker: "Uh, I don't know, but I am certain that you are going to get fired today."
Bob: "So you are certain? How do you know?"
Co-Worker: "Uh, yeah...fairly certain, I overheard someone from HR saying someone from our office was going to get fired, so I thought of the one who most likely would get fired is you."
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I don't know, and of course those were theories...but, the prime ministers is certain that it landed in the Indian Ocean off of Perth....
But, you have no plane, no bodies, no black box---but you know for certain? If someone is certain then they better produce some evidence of said "certainty".
Co-Worker: "Hey Bob, you're going to get fired today!"
Bob: "Wha...how do you know?"
Co-Worker: "Uh, I don't know, but I am certain that you are going to get fired today."
Bob: "So you are certain? How do you know?"
Co-Worker: "Uh, yeah...fairly certain, I overheard someone from HR saying someone from our office was going to get fired, so I thought of the one who most likely would get fired is you."
The plane is at the bottom of the ocean like I have said. They have the evidence just going through the protocols
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Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 went down in the southern Indian Ocean, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said Monday, citing a new analysis of satellite data by a British satellite company and accident investigators.
A relative of a missing passenger briefed by the airline in Beijing said, "They have told us all lives are lost."
While the announcement appeared to end hopes of finding survivors more than two weeks after the flight vanished, it left many key questions unanswered, including what went wrong aboard the Beijing-bound airliner and the location of its wreckage in the deep, wild waters of the Indian Ocean.
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the works of Osama's ghost ??? ???
(http://img3.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/480/87065643-osama-bin.jpg)
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the works of Osama's ghost ??? ???
(http://img3.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/480/87065643-osama-bin.jpg)
osama bin dayday missed his anabolic window
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The plane is at the bottom of the ocean like I have said. They have the evidence just going through the protocols
Chances are most people thought that. And so did I. the works of Osama's ghost ??? ???
(http://img3.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/480/87065643-osama-bin.jpg)
He was planning this with Davy Jones, they were in his Locker...and wanted company.
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If the information is correct (and beyond the literally incredible length of time involved to get to this point), the only place it could have landed would have been someplace in the southern arc, which lessens the chance that any landing occurred.
The idea is that landing on an island would simply be too improbable, and therefore the PM's declaration "beyond any reasonable doubt".
He's probably allowed some insurance concerns to move forward, too, with the announcement.
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Read that statement.
http://www.businessinsider.com/plane-victim-families-blast-malaysian-government-2014-3 (http://www.businessinsider.com/plane-victim-families-blast-malaysian-government-2014-3)
At 10pm on March 25, the Malaysian prime minister sent a statement to the families of MH370 passengers without any direct evidence that MH370 crashed in the south Indian ocean and no people survived. From March 8 when they announced that MH370 lost contact to today, 18 days have passed during which the Malaysian government and military constantly tried to delay, deceive the passengers' families and cheat the whole world. This shameless behaviour not only fooled and hurt the families of the 154 passengers but also misguided and delayed rescue actions, wasting a large quantity of human resources and materials and lost valuable time for the rescue effort. If the 154 passengers did lose their lives, Malaysia Airlines, the Malaysian government and military are the real executioners who killed them. We the families of those on board submit our strongest protest against them. We will take every possible means to pursue the unforgivable crimes and responsibility of all three.
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Finally, the nightmare is becoming real.....no one expect a happy ending from this.......at 10,000 to 15,000 feet below sea surface, the next challenge is to retrieve the most important piece of debris, the black box......it will stop beeping in two weeks. 2 weeks down, and 2 more to go, otherwise, they need to get lucky, really lucky to get this thing.....the indian ocean is said to be the roughest water of all seas.....may the force be with them... :'(
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Finally, the nightmare is becoming real.....no one expect a happy ending from this.......at 10,000 to 15,000 feet below sea surface, the next challenge is to retrieve the most important piece of debris, the black box......it will stop beeping in two weeks. 2 weeks down, and 2 more to go, otherwise, they need to get lucky, really lucky to get this thing.....the indian ocean is said to be the roughest water of all seas.....may the force be with them... :'(
is it that part of the ocean really turbulent? i mean, usually it's the shallow seas that have really huge waves.. if they are at 3km deep it's balls deep, no waves other than the ones caused by wind and currents..
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Was that lady BBQing Zombie Meat ??? or human meat ???
opps wrong thread
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is it that part of the ocean really turbulent? i mean, usually it's the shallow seas that have really huge waves.. if they are at 3km deep it's balls deep, no waves other than the ones caused by wind and currents..
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this part of the sea has been known to be very turbulent, unpredictable and most Cargo ships avoid that route altogether......the biggest problem they said they're about to face now is how far out these debris have spread and this could be one of the most expensive, if not the most expensive search and recovery operation in modern aviation......after two weeks of searching, who knows what they will find.....I'm still puzzled why these bodies, after two weeks have not littered the water surface yet.......I'm sure these corpses are bloated as hell
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The idea is that landing on an island would simply be too improbable, and therefore the PM's declaration "beyond any reasonable doubt".
So the "humor" doesn't go unnoticed from this older snippet:
The home-made simulator of the pilot has been loaded with runways of at least five airports in and around the Indian Ocean, where the search for the vanished Boeing 777 is gaining momentum.
"The simulation programmes are based on runways at the Male International Airport in Maldives, an airport owned by the United States (Diego Garcia), and three other runways in India and Sri Lanka, all have runway lengths of 1,000 metres," an unidentified investigation source told local Malay daily Berita Harian.
From International Business Times (18 March)
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this part of the sea has been known to be very turbulent, unpredictable and most Cargo ships avoid that route altogether......the biggest problem they said they're about to face now is how far out these debris have spread and this could be one of the most expensive, if not the most expensive search and recovery operation in modern aviation......after two weeks of searching, who knows what they will find.....I'm still puzzled why these bodies, after two weeks have not littered the water surface yet.......I'm sure these corpses are bloated as hell
The sharks down there would be as fat as hell, dont worry about that.
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...by the way, that's a sub-standard length for a 777 runway.
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So, are we buying the drink thing?
Jack?
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So, are we buying the drink thing?
Jack?
Without more information, it would be the most believable outcome. In that case (without more info) I'd say it was run out of fuel.
Only question is why it took so long to get to the point in this so-called investigation. The fuel and the ping durations were so closely matched, and a northern direction as such would place it over land - which was said to be too unlikely by these very "authorities" that made this announcement today. That rather narrows things, to say the least. So something doesn't make sense.
??? ??? ???
What do you think?
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So, are we buying the drink thing?
Not reading 29 pages but:
Isn't every foot of the Earth covered a few times over by satalites? Was it cloudy on the day of the flight?
Rough seas? After all this they still haven't sent a damn submarine? If they can hear a fish fart surely they can scan a big area for an object that's designed purpose is to make itself heard from a distance.
Have these already been discussed?
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Not reading 29 pages but:
Isn't every foot of the Earth covered a few times over by satalites? Was it cloudy on the day of the flight?
Rough seas? After all this they still haven't sent a damn submarine? If they can hear a fish fart surely they can scan a big area for an object that's designed purpose is to make itself heard from a distance.
Have these already been discussed?
i was reading an article about some of the sat methods, and to shorten it, "you can look wide or you can look deep, but you can't do both."
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Not reading 29 pages but:
Isn't every foot of the Earth covered a few times over by satalites? Was it cloudy on the day of the flight?
Rough seas? After all this they still haven't sent a damn submarine? If they can hear a fish fart surely they can scan a big area for an object that's designed purpose is to make itself heard from a distance.
Have these already been discussed?
I don't know. Lots of Chinese on this flight, about a hundred and fifty I think. They're 1,3 billion of them on the planet. There might be something there.
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i was reading an article about some of the sat methods, and to shorten it, "you can look wide or you can look deep, but you can't do both."
I don't mean scanning for debris, you understand. I mean when the plane was in the air, where did the satellites see it go? Surely a satellite has sufficient resolution to pick up a big-assed passenger jet without someone zooming in on it.
Clouds, I'd buy. Satellites can't see it? No way.
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I started following this missing plane story the night that 'Army of One' posted this thread.
I did not think that it was (potentially) going to turn into one of the biggest unsolved mysteries ever.
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So the malasyians are now claiming it crashed yet they still can't find the plane. WTF!?!
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Math
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-satellite-tracking/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 (http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-satellite-tracking/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)
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I can't wait for the Formula 1: Malaysian GP this weekend. I just want to see how many cars vanish going into the first turn.
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the malaysian government is a joke,any malaysian getbigger can confirm this
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Tapeworm: It was dark, for one thing, except for the very last bit of time it was known to be above water (by range of time with pings and fuel).
Interesting grist for anyone that would want to say it landed, obviously, as an unassisted landing on a short strip would definitely require light. Pilot waited for sunrise, in other words.
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I started following this missing plane story the night that 'Army of One' posted this thread.
I did not think that it was (potentially) going to turn into one of the biggest unsolved mysteries ever.
The reason it's turning into one of the biggest mysteries ever is the relentless media coverage of this. In the time it takes to write a story about 150 dead chinese people on this flight about that many are getting killed by their own government per hour per day.
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I can't wait for the Formula 1: Malaysian GP this weekend. I just want to see how many cars vanish going into the first turn.
;D ;D ;D ;D
almost threw my food out!
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Every time i hear another update in the news about this subject it smells more and more like bull shat.
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Every time i hear another update in the news about this subject it smells more and more like bull shat.
Because the media doesn't know any more than we do... So they feel the need to inject their own worthless opinions and their own faulty ideas. They just don't want us to turn the channel.
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/US_Air_Force_B-2_Spirit.jpg)
VS
(http://img.planespotters.net/photo/336000/original/9M-MNA-Malaysia-Airlines-Airbus-A380-800_PlanespottersNet_336055.jpg)
never knew disappearing off radar was that simple????
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City of Atlantis thinks this search is getting ridiculous
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City of Atlantis thinks this search is getting ridiculous
more chance of find that and real age of the Sphinx than finding that plane.
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Malaysian authorities tonight said the last words spoken by one of the pilots of the missing plane were "Goodnight Malaysian three seven zero", changing the previous account of the last message as a casual "All right, good night."
"We would like to confirm that the last conversation in the transcript between the air traffic controller and the cockpit is at 01:19 (Malaysian Time on March 8 ) and is "Good night Malaysian three seven zero," the Transport Ministry said in a statement here.
The statement came after acting Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein was questioned at a news conference today over the last words from the cockpit and fended off demands to release the official transcript.
The Beijing-bound Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 - carrying 239 people, including five Indians, an Indo-Canadian and 154 Chinese nationals - had mysteriously vanished on March 8 after taking off from Kuala Lumpur.
Today's statement said the Minister had instructed the investigating team to release the full transcript of the conversation to the next of kin during the next briefing session.
"The Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) would like to refer to questions raised during the press conference by the acting Transport Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein this evening with regards to the last communications between the cockpit and the air traffic controller.
"The authorities are still doing forensic investigation to determine whether those last words from the cockpit were by the pilot or the co-pilot," the statement said.
Earlier reports stated that the last words from the cockpit was a casual "All right, goodnight" which came two minutes before the plane's transponder was shut down.
Malaysia Airlines had said the voice was believed to be that of co-pilot Fariq Abdul Hamid.
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From: Business Standard
business-standard.com
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^Changing the claim of what was said, and now claiming uncertainty about who said it.
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Any debris recovered yet?
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They have found NOTHING, not a single piece of a plane. Something is weird, very weird.
The satellites are spotting debris literally the size of a basketball and ships are going to that area and finding the little items- just floating junk. There's no plane out there.
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Shame they couldnt draft in this guy, he always spotted the plane.
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This whole thing is a fucking clown show. Utter incompetence.
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I believe they know everything but are being shutted down.
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The Malaysian hairline went missing a long time ago
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z21HSSQN-Xk/UyVFaX_iV3I/AAAAAAAAJVk/5PaFGqUlyvM/s1600/pilot.jpg)
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Any debris recovered yet?
Yes all sorts of shit in the ocean it seems. The amount of trash spotted from the sattelites in the ocean is sickening. Giant oil slicks, floating shit all over the place. It's the world's trashcan
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Maybe it's Ben Laden's curse?
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The Malaysian hairline went missing a long time ago
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z21HSSQN-Xk/UyVFaX_iV3I/AAAAAAAAJVk/5PaFGqUlyvM/s1600/pilot.jpg)
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Guys U a so lucky :(, in every fuckin Aussie News >:( never ending media circus now in Perth:Airforces from several countries,politicians,
ex Air Marshal,Aussie PM,Malesian PM & in 10 days baby 'Prince George' will be there too + 100's of Chings families members will arive
in Perth (4 fuck what ::))
Leopold should visit West (Wild )Aussie too & give his opinion about 370 .............
PS. Next media stop: Antartica
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i hear some asians cant find their own dicks sometimes
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Guys U a so lucky :(, in every fuckin Aussie News >:( never ending media circus now in Perth:Airforces from several countries,politicians,
ex Air Marshal,Aussie PM,Malesian PM & in 10 days baby 'Prince George' will be there too + 100's of Chings families members will arive
in Perth (4 fuck what ::))
Leopold should visit West (Wild )Aussie too & give his opinion about 370 .............
PS. Next media stop: Antartica
Coverage pretty much has died down in the States...snippets here and there.
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Coverage pretty much has died down in the States...snippets here and there.
Lucky U, total TV shit here,never ending handshakes & air crews introductions to politicians (they cash well on this mystery),
Chings air crew have an English speaking interpreter ;D, Ching pilot when met Aussie PM:Good morning Mr.PM,I am very please to
meet great man ( ::)) like U & we a very happy to visit your beautiful country ..............
US Navy officer, gone for hours explaining to Chings media, how sub surfers radar/sonar operates.............
Total media circus ...............Crimea was much more interesting story.
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Lucky U, total TV shit here,never ending handshakes & air crews introductions to politicians (they cash well on this mystery),
Chings air crew have an English speaking interpreter ;D, Ching pilot when met Aussie PM:Good morning Mr.PM,I am very please to
meet great man ( ::)) like U & we a very happy to visit your beautiful country ..............
US Navy officer, gone for hours explaining to Chings media, how sub surfers radar/sonar operates.............
Total media circus ...............Crimea was much more interesting story.
I preffered it when Stallone got destroyed by the media by bringing in HGH
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I preffered it when Stallone got destroyed by the media by bringing in HGH
;D ;D ;D
Just on newzy: British navy is joining too ::)
Where is "mighty" Russian navy ??? when U need them :P
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;D ;D ;D
Just on newzy: British navy is joining too ::)
Where is "mighty" Russian navy ??? when U need them :P
Our journalism is the worst, especially from the younger ones. they just read it off google.
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Our journalism is the worst, especially from the younger ones. they just read it off google.
Media Watch is my favourite show, :D
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Media Watch is my favourite show, :D
I used to watch that. Great TV program
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Amazing that most of the people on the plane were chinese, yet you hear about Thailand, Australia, USA coming to help yet not one fucking word about China coming to help. Goes to show you that China doesn't give a fuck about their people.
I guess 200 dead means nothing when they probably execute that many every hour.
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Time is running out
Cnn.com
We may 'never find the wreckage'
Searchers are focused on an area the size of New Mexico, and this locale is only a best guess, writes pilot Robert Goyer.
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This was from about 2 weeks into the search:
(http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OG-AB010_MALAYS_NS_20140320113711.jpg)
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Sounds like a cover-up.
Someone made sure it would be hard to find anything.
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Sounds like a cover-up.
Someone made sure it would be hard to find anything.
Possible the plane never took off in the first place?
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Some Government pulled a Building 7 on that flight.
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The Malaysian hairline went missing a long time ago
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Z21HSSQN-Xk/UyVFaX_iV3I/AAAAAAAAJVk/5PaFGqUlyvM/s1600/pilot.jpg)
ROFL
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Just leave them, they're dead anyway.
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Malaysian's are stupid.
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They're prob only interested in finding the black box.
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They're prob only interested in finding the black box.
They should get FatAlice on the case, he can sniff out a wet black box from the other side of the universe
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They're prob only interested in finding the black box.
Doesn't it stop sending signals after a couple weeks?
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British nuke sub is in Perth too ::)
Still no sight of "mighty" Soviet era Pacific fleet :-\
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Doesn't it stop sending signals after a couple weeks?
Good question.
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They are all dead call off the dogs.
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http://www.westernjournalism.com/real-reason-flight-370-disappeared/#eRcoBVvxzLZbWbFD.01
Check this video out for a possible reason!
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They are all dead call off the dogs.
Maybe some of them have lucrative life insurances, expensive watches or golden teeth.
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They should get FatAlice on the case, he can sniff out a wet black box from the other side of the universe
:D
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Fish & crabs food,..............
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Great Newz: shark attack is now #.1 news ;D
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They are all dead call off the dogs.
The United States (in fact all the western powers with merchantile fleets) wants to know what happened.
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The United States (in fact all the western powers with merchantile fleets) wants to know what happened.
Well uh, the plane crashed and everyone got killed? It seems that they can't deal with that ::)
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Well uh, the plane crashed and everyone got killed? It seems that they can't deal with that ::)
Of course it crashed, but they want to know why. They want a failure analysis.
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Of course it crashed, but they want to know why. They want a failure analysis.
its probably a simple thing.
a dud plane, it was a lemon, everything went off, I bet the black box was faulty too.
everything you see and read in the media is B.S there just creating stories.
Problem is family/friends of the 239 need closure.
Insurance company needs facts.
Malaysian airlines need facts but they will recover like Air France did.
they will eventually find it, but after this month what's the point.
Does the black box store information indefinitely or does it last for only 30 days???
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they will eventually find it, but after this month what's the point.
Does the black box store information indefinitely or does it last for only 30 days???
Unless it has been suplanted, it is recorded on stainless steel wire.
The thirty days they refer to is the electronic noise maker that hydrophones can home in on. The battery runs out around thirty days.
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Unless it has been suplanted, it is recorded on stainless steel wire.
The thirty days they refer to is the electronic noise maker that hydrophones can home in on. The battery runs out around thirty days.
I figured that, I just have people telling me "the black box is a dud after 30 days" I doubted it, then someone else said it. But I believe its on there for life. yes it pings only for 30 days.
if iphone can upgrade every 6 months, Honeywell needs to upgrade the Blackbox. (ofcourse easier said then done)
I guess GPS does not work that far below the sea.
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I guess GPS does not work that far below the sea.
The radio waves of the wavelength used by GPS can not penetrate water.
they will eventually find it, but after this month what's the point.
As far as finding debris, debris is important for analysis.
Read about the De Havilland Comet.
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Flight 370 ‘Followed by Fighter Jets’ Claims Girlfriend of Victim
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Read about the De Havilland Comet.
I got better things to do. but thank you.
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http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/breking-guy.html#sthash.eGnn8Zaq.gbpl
Plane at Diego Garcia military base???
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I got better things to do. but thank you.
But of course you do.
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The Jindalee Operational Radar Network (JORN) is an over-the-horizon radar (OTHR) network that can monitor air and sea movements across 37,000 km2. It has an official range of 3,000 km. It is used in the defence of Australia and can also monitor maritime operations, wave heights and wind directions.
The JORN network is operated by No. 1 Radar Surveillance Unit RAAF (1RSU). Data from the JORN sites is fed to the JORN Coordination Centre at RAAF Base Edinburgh where it is passed on to other agencies and military units. Officially the system allows the Australian Defence Force to observe all air and sea activity north of Australia to distances of 3000 km. This encompasses all of Java, Irian Jaya, Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands, and halfway across the Indian Ocean. Other sources put the range at 4000 km from the Australian coastline,[23] as far away as Singapore.[24]
The JORN is so sensitive it is able to track planes as small as a Cessna 172 taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away. Current research is anticipated to increase its sensitivity by a factor of ten beyond this level. It is also reportedly able to detect stealth aircraft, as typically these are designed only to avoid detection by microwave radar.[6] Project DUNDEE[25] was a cooperative research project, with American missile defence research, into using JORN to detect missiles.[26] The JORN is anticipated to play a role in future Missile Defense Agency initiatives, detecting and tracking missile launches in Asia.[27]
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/external?http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJindalee_Operational_Radar_Network
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Why is nobody searching for missing once mighty Soviet Pacific fleet ???
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http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/breking-guy.html#sthash.eGnn8Zaq.gbpl
Plane at Diego Garcia military base???
page taken off.
(no pun intended)
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page taken off.
(no pun intended)
Not necessarily a legit story, and it seems to have been moved to here:
http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/breking-guy.html
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Has a vanished plane ever not been found? In modern times, of course.
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Has a vanished plane ever not been found? In modern times, of course.
Yes.
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Can you be more specific? In the ocean?
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Can you be more specific? In the ocean?
http://www.ibtimes.com/beyond-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-6-other-planes-disappeared-were-never-found-1561738
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In the ocean?
laotian
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Just coming out that the Malaysian government held back key info, and also that the dissappearance from radar was reported 45 minutes after it happened (meant to be reported withing 15).
I AM starting to think individuals in the Malaysian goernment are "in the know" as to what happened.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/beyond-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-6-other-planes-disappeared-were-never-found-1561738
Interesting. Worth a look, guys.
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http://www.ibtimes.com/beyond-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-6-other-planes-disappeared-were-never-found-1561738
Ok, thanks. Wow.
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Getting kind of ridiculous on tv. Clearly the plane is not in the ocean.
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i'm a malaysian and i'm not even following the news anymore
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Has a vanished plane ever not been found? In modern times, of course.
It can be argued that all powered flight has taken place during the modern era. So logically all airline flights took place during "Modern times".
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It can be argued that all powered flight has taken place during the modern era. So logically all airline flights took place during "Modern times".
Fair enough. Fucker.
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Is this MH370? US pilot believes he's found wreckage of missing airliner after searching through thousands of satellite images online - right where the flight vanished seven weeks ago
- Michael Hoebel, from Tonawanda, New York spent hours trawling through pictures on TomNod.com, a website that shares satellite images
- He has found images of what he believes to be the intact aircraft just off the northeast coast of Malaysia days after the crash
- He has contacted the FBI and NTSB to share his findings
- The search for the missing flight, which vanished on March 8, will now focus on the ocean floor, authorities have said
By Lydia Warren
Published: 10:12 EST, 28 April 2014 | Updated: 11:45 EST, 28 April 2014
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614932/U-S-pilot-believes-hes-wreckage-missing-Malaysia-flight-searching-satellite-images.html#ixzz30CuDtlZi
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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Is this MH370? US pilot believes he's found wreckage of missing airliner after searching through thousands of satellite images online - right where the flight vanished seven weeks ago
- Michael Hoebel, from Tonawanda, New York spent hours trawling through pictures on TomNod.com, a website that shares satellite images
- He has found images of what he believes to be the intact aircraft just off the northeast coast of Malaysia days after the crash
- He has contacted the FBI and NTSB to share his findings
- The search for the missing flight, which vanished on March 8, will now focus on the ocean floor, authorities have said
By Lydia Warren
Published: 10:12 EST, 28 April 2014 | Updated: 11:45 EST, 28 April 2014
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614932/U-S-pilot-believes-hes-wreckage-missing-Malaysia-flight-searching-satellite-images.html#ixzz30CuDtlZi
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Interesting, but I wonder how he accounts for the maintenance pings.
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614932-1D6C9D2800000578-802_634x354.jpg)
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/28/article-2614932-1D6C9D6500000578-143_634x459.jpg)
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Anything is possible with this event.....
http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/04/29/newday-intv-bolduan-australian-exploration-company-bay-of-bengal.cnn.html (http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2014/04/29/newday-intv-bolduan-australian-exploration-company-bay-of-bengal.cnn.html)
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Not sure if they hired Numero Uno for a sweet campfire song...
(http://www.bloomberg.com/image/iSTA3He9XFSM.jpg)
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-recordings-may-have-been-edited-experts-n94941
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/missing-jet-recordings-may-have-been-edited-experts-n94941
Some serious trolling, inspirational!
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/flight-370-philip-woods-girlfriend-sarah-bajc-got-death-threat-n100446
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Can't they just use the Find my iPhone app ??? I'm sure somebody had an iPhone onboard
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Can't they just use the Find my iPhone app ??? I'm sure somebody had an iPhone onboard
The subject Iphone has to be in contact with a cellphone network. Your are not going to find many cell towers in the middle of the ocean, and also radio waves at gigahertz frequencies do not penetrate water.
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The subject Iphone has to be in contact with a cellphone network. Your are not going to find many cell towers in the middle of the ocean, and also radio waves at gigahertz frequencies do not penetrate water.
I wasn't really serious bro thanks though
But I do wonder how it got lost with all the modern technology
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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/flight-370-philip-woods-girlfriend-sarah-bajc-got-death-threat-n100446
That's freaking weird and sick, it shows how cruel the Chinese can be..
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That's freaking weird and sick, it shows how cruel the Chinese can be..
effed up shite. we may never know the truth.
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effed up shite. we may never know the truth.
That's how smart they are, I don't trust them by default.
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The subject Iphone has to be in contact with a cellphone network. Your are not going to find many cell towers in the middle of the ocean, and also radio waves at gigahertz frequencies do not penetrate water.
If you were water and I was a radio wave, I would try my hardest to penetrate you.
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If you were water and I was a radio wave, I would try my hardest to penetrate you.
would love to spend some time in the electromagnetic spectrum with you.
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If you were water and I was a radio wave, I would try my hardest to penetrate you.
I would love to be that water.
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Lots of sexual tension in this last page.
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This thread = CNN for the last 9 weeks.
And they wonder why they can't break 400K on their most popular shows.
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Looks like none of those missing Chings was having traveling insurance, so families will get fuck all ;D
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Coverage has dropped off dramatically.
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'Planes don't just disappear': Former Malaysian Prime Minister accuses CIA of covering up what really happened to flight MH370
- CIA and Boeing may be hiding information about missing MH370
- Former Malaysian PM Dr Mahathir says airplanes like MH370 'don't just disappear'
- If the plane failed or have been disabled then 'Boeing must know'
- Mahathir said the plane may have had its MAS airline markings removed
- The air-sea search out of Perth for debris is a 'waste of time and money'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2632447/CIA-knows-missing-Flight-MH370-says-former-Malaysian-PM-Dr-Mahathir.html
Monday Conspiracy Post of Peace
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(http://i.imgur.com/gYXhhvr.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/gYXhhvr.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/gYXhhvr.gif)
That .gif is extremely rude and I take offense. I am but a messenger. Please apologize.
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Why do you put "prime minister" in the title when it's clearly a former prime minister?
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That .gif is extremely rude and I take offense. I am but a messenger. Please apologize.
I apologize..
this has gone way too long with the Malaysia airline plane.. off course the elites are hiding the truth.. this is 2014 where satellites, gps, cellphones, tracking devices, triangulation methods are very well known..
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I apologize..
I too apologize even though I had nothing to do with it.
(no homo)
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Why do you put "prime minister" in the title when it's clearly a former prime minister?
Because Mahatir is still pulling the strings?
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Why do you put "prime minister" in the title when it's clearly a former prime minister?
Look who gets a fucking A+ in reading comprehension!
Primary Reason: The topic length limit would not allow it.
Secondary Reason: Maximize emotional response to further sensationalize and muck rake thus enhancing responses from conservative Texas based meatheads who want to call me out for it.
Because Mahatir is still pulling the strings?
Precisely. It should be noted that only someone "out of power" with nothing to lose would say what he truly believes. His influence is still great but he cant be condemned and ousted as he could if he were acting PM.
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Secondary Reason: Maximize emotional response to further sensationalize and muck rake thus enhancing responses from conservative Texas based meatheads who want to call me out for it.
Hahaha, nice.
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I already told you guys the plane went through a time rift and ended up in another dimension
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I wonder if they'll ever solve this mystery.
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I already told you guys the plane went through a time rift and ended up in another dimension
Who is that training your avatar? Those arms are small...
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I too apologize even though I had nothing to do with it.
(no homo)
I am feeling emotions of remorse as well.
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Case Closed! Thanks again Galactis!
http://www.galactis.net/en/zborul-mh370-situatia-de-facto/
We were told that the vanished airplane (Flight MH370) is part of a series of experiments by the evil elite to “populate” certain areas of the planes parallel to the physical one in which we exist. The evil elite intends in the near future to govern and control certain areas of such parallel planes of existence. Thus, it will try to make such areas become like “magnets” of evil resonance, seeking to impede the fundamental transformations which are taking place on Earth.
In order to “extract” the plane out of the physical reality, the evil elite used an extremely sophisticated technology. Even so, the plane could not be taken completely from our time-space reality and could not be transposed in the parallel reality in which they intended to take it. The experiment failed, and the airplane thus remained “suspended” in time, in a very strange state of existence. As a location, it is now somewhere in the area above the Indian Ocean, and for the passengers inside only a few seconds have passed from the moment when the plane entered completely in the inter-dimensional zone in which it is now. Until it was “caught” in this strange state of existence, the plane flew on a trajectory similar to a spiral (starting from the area in which it changed course), in a desire to find the shore. All that could be seen from on board the plane was an endless expanse of water and the occasional fragments of some unclear images, obscured like in fog, which cannot be easily made out. The plane has continued to circle at a low height, seeking a solution allowing it to land.
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Yeah. What happened? I thought they found it with the underwater rover?
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ok now it's all played by the CIA ( when he actually means the US )
::)
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Mystery solved.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/world/asia/mh370-wing-reunion.html?_r=0
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Mystery solved.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/world/asia/mh370-wing-reunion.html?_r=0
Not really, all it tells us is that it went down in the sea, we all knew that already from the ping data.What we don't know is why it went down.
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Not really, all it tells us is that it went down in the sea, we all knew that already from the ping data.What we don't know is why it went down.
I didn't realize we knew that already. Never gonna know why.
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that black box will never be found.....that plane or whatever is left of it is in the Abyss now. that Flap that was found is a light and small piece of that jumbo jet......millions of $ have already been spent in this Exhaustive search already and they are in no hurry to jump ship and start again
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Mystery solved.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/world/asia/mh370-wing-reunion.html?_r=0
no its not:
www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/maldives-debris-not-from-mh370-malaysia-says/6699394 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/maldives-debris-not-from-mh370-malaysia-says/6699394)
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no its not:
www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/maldives-debris-not-from-mh370-malaysia-says/6699394 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/maldives-debris-not-from-mh370-malaysia-says/6699394)
Confusing:
"Malaysia last week said the wing part that washed ashore on Reunion had been confirmed by experts as coming from the missing jet.
The confirmation marked the first confirmed evidence the plane, which was carrying 239 passengers and crew, had met a tragic end in the Indian Ocean.
After that discovery, the Malaysian authorities alerted nearby Madagascar and the South African coast to be on the lookout, saying it was possible debris would wash up in those locations.
Mauritius also launched search operations.
So far, no further debris from MH370 has been confirmed".
- Seems they're saying they just haven't found ANYTHING ELSE.
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that black box will never be found.....that plane or whatever is left of it is in the Abyss now. that Flap that was found is a light and small piece of that jumbo jet......millions of $ have already been spent in this Exhaustive search already and they are in no hurry to jump ship and start again
Well said..