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GMAFB. If I was in high school, I'd be claiming this shit just to get into the girl's locker room. ::)
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BOSTON (AP) — The Massachusetts Department of Education on Friday issued directives for handling transgender students, including allowing them to use the bathrooms or play on the sports teams that correspond to the gender with which they identify.
The guidance was issued at the request of state board of education to help schools follow the state’s 2011 anti-discrimination law protecting transgender people.
‘‘These students, because of widespread misunderstanding and lack of knowledge about their lives, are at a higher risk for peer ostracism, victimization, and bullying,’’ the document read.
Gunner Scott of Massachusetts Transgender Political Coalition the welcomed the guidance, saying it would be ‘‘immensely helpful to those parents who have been struggling with making sure that the school environment is safe and welcoming of their child.’’
But the Massachusetts Family Institute said allowing transgender boys to use girls’ bathrooms, and vice versa, endangers other students and violates their privacy.
‘‘Fundamentally, boys need to be use boys’ rooms and girls need to be using the girls’ rooms, and we base that on their anatomical sex, not some sort of internalized gender identity,’’ said Andrew Beckwith, general counsel for the institute.
The education department said it prepared the 11-page document after consulting policies in several states, as well as advocacy groups, parents and students.
The document said whether a student identifies as a boy or girl is up to the student or, in the case of younger students, the parents.
In all cases, ‘‘the student may access the restroom, locker room, and changing facility that corresponds to the student’s gender identity,’’ it said.
The guidance said some students may feel uncomfortable sharing those facilities with a transgender student but this ‘‘discomfort is not a reason to deny access to the transgender student.’’ It urges administrators to resolve issues on a case-by-case basis, and recommends sufficient sex-neutral restrooms and changing areas.
The guidance also addresses what to do if other students consistently and intentionally refuse to refer to a transgendered student by the name or sex they identify as: ‘‘It should not be tolerated and can be grounds for student discipline.’’
Beckwith said the guidance forces students to ignore ‘‘a basic truth of anatomy’’ or face punishment. He also said the guidance is an end run around the state Legislature, which specifically excluded public accommodations, such as rest rooms and locker rooms, from the 2011 bill.
But education department spokesman JC Considine said school restrooms aren’t public accommodations.
‘‘We’re talking about the use of school facilities by students who have no choice but to be in a school building,’’ Considine said. ‘‘Kids have to have restroom access.’’
Scott said disciplining students who won’t acknowledge a student’s gender identity is appropriate because it amounts to bullying. He said the directives simply aim to create a safe learning place for a group that’s statistically far more likely to be harassed.
‘‘The reality is that it’s about creating an inclusive environment for all students to learn,’’ he said.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2013/02/15/mass-dept-issues-rules-transgender-pupils/L0rr4AYIwCKH33z0hxcGTL/story.html
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In my day we didnt have "transgender" people. WTF is all this nonsense now?
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It is scary how depraved this nation is becoming.
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I called this shit 2 year ago an libtards mocked me for it...
Morons how do you not see the writing on the wall?
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I'd swear, the world has gone perfectly mad.
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I called this shit 2 year ago an libtards mocked me for it...
Morons how do you not see the writing on the wall?
Called it? If memory serves me correctly, you were calling FOR IT!
Congratulations my transgendered friend, ...you finally got your wish, ..at least in Massachusetts :D
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I certainly don't like that transgendered boys can use the girl's locker room and bathroom....but from a practical standpoint the reason this is allowed is that Transgendered males are in mortal danger of being beaten to death if they use a men's bathroom or locker...men will think that the transgenders are looking at them or making a pass and they will respond with violence......of bullying at the least...
Women seem more able to accept this kind of thing of a transgener being among them so the said transgender is safer although some women don't like this as well.....
Here in NY city, homeless transgenders are place in FEMALE shelters due to the above. Again, I don't like it..but I can see the reasoning behind it
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I certainly don't like that transgendered boys can use the girl's locker room and bathroom....but from a practical standpoint the reason this is allowed is that Transgendered males are in mortal danger of being beaten to death if they use a men's bathroom or locker...men will think that the transgenders are looking at them or making a pass and they will respond with violence......of bullying at the least...
Women seem more able to accept this kind of thing of a transgener being among them so the said transgender is safer although some women don't like this as well.....
Here in NY city, homeless transgenders are place in FEMALE shelters due to the above. Again, I don't like it..but I can see the reasoning behind it
What's your response to the women who would strenuously object to a male in their restroom?
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What's your response to the women who would strenuously object to a male in their restroom?
Again I don't like it and I think females should complain....BUT....we can't start adding a third bathroom to all the facilities in the U.S. for transgendered people to use...it would cost a fortune of tax payer money and businesses would be up in arms...!!!!
so I guess there is no other choice :'(
However..I have a sneaking feeling that we are headed in this direction......someone is going to sue down the line claiming its a civl rights issue...and they might win
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Again I don't like it and I think females should complain....BUT....we can't start adding a third bathroom to all the facilities in the U.S. for transgendered people to use...it would cost a fortune of tax payer money and businesses would be up in arms...!!!!
so I guess there is no other choice :'(
However..I have a sneaking feeling that we are headed in this direction......someone is going to sue down the line claiming its a civl rights issue...and they might win
What's should happen is a women or man should sue for having to use the same bathroom as an opposite sex individual.
This country coddles the weak and punishes the strong
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Again I don't like it and I think females should complain....BUT....we can't start adding a third bathroom to all the facilities in the U.S. for transgendered people to use...it would cost a fortune of tax payer money and businesses would be up in arms...!!!!
so I guess there is no other choice :'(
However..I have a sneaking feeling that we are headed in this direction......someone is going to sue down the line claiming its a civl rights issue...and they might win
It's one of those things that has to fall on the person who chooses to carry forward in such a way. If the person is in such wild flux to begin with, then adaptation should come as second nature.
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Again I don't like it and I think females should complain....BUT....we can't start adding a third bathroom to all the facilities in the U.S. for transgendered people to use...it would cost a fortune of tax payer money and businesses would be up in arms...!!!!
so I guess there is no other choice :'(
However..I have a sneaking feeling that we are headed in this direction......someone is going to sue down the line claiming its a civl rights issue...and they might win
Sure we can. We can stop selling this line of bullshit that the rights of the majority are 2nd to the rights of the minority. Protecting minority rights is one thing. Overriding the majority is another.
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It's one of those things that has to fall on the person who chooses to carry forward in such a way. If the person is in such wild flux to begin with, then adaptation should come as second nature.
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Yes, just one of those things that others need to stay out of. It's on the person.
If another event happens as a result, such as assault, etc., that's a completely separate issue.
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What's should happen is a women or man should sue for having to use the same bathroom as an opposite sex individual.
This country coddles the weak and punishes the strong
maybe................... .............
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Again I don't like it and I think females should complain....BUT....we can't start adding a third bathroom to all the facilities in the U.S. for transgendered people to use...it would cost a fortune of tax payer money and businesses would be up in arms...!!!!
so I guess there is no other choice :'(
However..I have a sneaking feeling that we are headed in this direction......someone is going to sue down the line claiming its a civl rights issue...and they might win
Um- Hello; Why the fuck should 99.9999999% of the population be forced to endure this nonsense because some faggs with gender identity issues want to piss in the wrong bathroom?!
How about we just keep things the way they are?
No wait. That would make sense. In the warped mind of a liberal, everyone must be inconvenienced except the freaks, weirdos, queers and whackjobs.
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It's one of those things that has to fall on the person who chooses to carry forward in such a way. If the person is in such wild flux to begin with, then adaptation should come as second nature.
agreed...I think they should use the males bathroom....BUT..some transgendered people have had the operation and are now technically females although they may still have manly features......we would find ourselves in a situation where we would have to check whats inside each person's underwear before letting them use the bathroom...LOL..who wants that job???
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Um- Hello; Why the fuck should 99.9999999% of the population be forced to endure this nonsense because some faggs with gender identity issues want to piss in the wrong bathroom?!
How about we just keep things the way they are?
No wait. That would make sense. In the warped mind of a liberal, everyone must be inconvenienced except the freaks, weirdos, queers and whackjobs.
its really funny you have turned this into a liberal issue.....I'm not aware of where the major parties stand on this....yet
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its really funny you have turned this into a liberal issue.....I'm not aware of where the major parties stand on this....yet
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
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Gee willikers. Let's make a friendly wager. If liberals authored this legislation, you delete your user name and leave get big forever.
Deal?
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
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Gee willikers. Let's make a friendly wager. If liberals authored this legislation, you delete your user name and leave get big forever.
Deal?
if that is the case why do you feel that this is nefarious???.....its a solution that won't cost society any money and will be the best thing at protecting Transgeders from being killed......I hate it but being rational, its the best solution instead of having the government impose laws about this situation on us
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agreed...I think they should use the males bathroom....BUT..some transgendered people have had the operation and are now technically females although they may still have manly features......we would find ourselves in a situation where we would have to check whats inside each person's underwear before letting them use the bathroom...LOL..who wants that job???
Yes, it's quite a mess. That's why it needs to come down to whether a person was truly using the restroom, or whether the person was involved in some crime (in the case of a male-like person using the female restroom).
Obviously, a female-like person using the male restroom is at risk of being assaulted, but the person committing the assault will risk getting busted for it, just like with any other assault.
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if that is the case why do you feel that this is nefarious???.....its a solution that won't cost society any money and will be the best thing at protecting Transgeders from being killed......I hate it but being rational, its the best solution instead of having the government impose laws about this situation on us
How many transgendered ppl have been killed in bathrooms Andre?
This is yet another save the children from assault weapons all over again.
Making issues where there are no issues
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True. The issue is almost non-existent.
It's absolutely ridiculous that we have to put up with this bullshit, with the real problems we face.
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How many transgendered ppl have been killed in bathrooms Andre?
This is yet another save the children from assault weapons all over again.
Making issues where there are no issues
good point.
This is just stupid.
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How many transgendered ppl have been killed in bathrooms Andre?
This is yet another save the children from assault weapons all over again.
Making issues where there are no issues
Great point....but don't hold your breath for an actual fact from Andre.
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Great point....but don't hold your breath for an actual fact from Andre.
Transgenders are assaulted and murdered all the time...its does happen....sure theres no national outcry or publicity about it but it does happen....all Im doing is telling you what the thinking is of the politicians and law-makers who allow transgenders to use female restrooms and to be placed in female homeless shelters....
I know you guys hate to agree with me on anything but lets not twist the issue out of proportion..I simply stated what the frame of mind is of the above and I said I opposed it ...what more do you want?
take it easy...THINK
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How many transgendered ppl have been killed in bathrooms Andre?
This is yet another save the children from assault weapons all over again.
Making issues where there are no issues
YES!!!
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Great point....but don't hold your breath for an actual fact from Andre.
Very valid... I don't have any numbers, but I truly haven't heard about bathroom beat downs over a transgendered person using the bathroom.
I thought if you were labeling yourself as a woman that you would just use the women's bathroom anyway... Isn't that what you are doing when you say "I'm a whatever."?
Seems much ado about nothing.
Was there some issue with a tranny going to the women's room all of a sudden?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you go to the women's room, especially in the US, you have a stall or a door and you have to sit anyway so how would anyone even really know.
If you're a woman, you can't really pee standing up, so again, you have to use a stall.
It's as bad as "family bathrooms".
They didn't have that shit when I was a kid either.
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Actually, I think Men's/Women's Restrooms should be abolished altogether........why maintain the separation when women can now fight on the front lines in combat? There should be just one bathroom for ALL people. I am of the belief that civilized people do not act aggressively or untoward against those of the opposite sex, even when confronted with nudity. Many cultures around the world are comfortable being around those of the opposite sex that are naked. If there is one thing 'Merica is great at doing, it is glossing over and covering up what we really think and do with something perceived as presentable.
(http://mimg.ugo.com/201107/2/0/3/204302/cuts/starship_480_poster.jpg)
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If you're a woman, you can't really pee standing up, so again, you have to use a stall.
HA! You've obviously never had to use a gas station bathroom in the middle of nowhere in Tijuana Mexico!
Trust me. I learned to pee standing up PRETTY FAST! ;D
It's as bad as "family bathrooms".
They didn't have that shit when I was a kid either.
Actually I think "family bathrooms" are great ideas.
What does a father do when he has to take his little girl to the bathroom?
I've seen many little girls pee their pants while their fathers tried to wait for all the women to leave the ladies room before he could enter. It never happens. Women are always going in as others are coming out. Many fathers don't want to be bringing their little girls into the Men's room with them. The same with women and their sons. No child should have to risk a burst bladder, and I don't think a parent should have to send their child into a rest room alone. Parents should be able to supervise their kids in a public restroom. I have no problem with an additional "family bathroom" as long as it is not the only facility available in lieu of separate Males & Female restrooms.
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Actually, I think Men's/Women's Restrooms should be abolished altogether........why maintain the separation when women can now fight on the front lines in combat? There should be just one bathroom for ALL people. I am of the belief that civilized people do not act aggressively or untoward against those of the opposite sex, even when confronted with nudity. Many cultures around the world are comfortable being around those of the opposite sex that are naked. If there is one thing 'Merica is great at doing, it is glossing over and covering up what we really think and do with something perceived as presentable.
(http://mimg.ugo.com/201107/2/0/3/204302/cuts/starship_480_poster.jpg)
Bwahaha And the first time a woman changes a tampon or menstrual pad in front of you,
y'all will be screaming for separate bathrooms, and going into therapy.
You can't even watch TV commercials without cringing... despite all the happy smiley faces, & horseback riding.
If you can't handle blue water & test tubes, ...how are you going to handle red streaks in the bowl?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=446286.0
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Actually, I think Men's/Women's Restrooms should be abolished altogether........why maintain the separation when women can now fight on the front lines in combat? There should be just one bathroom for ALL people. I am of the belief that civilized people do not act aggressively or untoward against those of the opposite sex, even when confronted with nudity. Many cultures around the world are comfortable being around those of the opposite sex that are naked. If there is one thing 'Merica is great at doing, it is glossing over and covering up what we really think and do with something perceived as presentable.
(http://mimg.ugo.com/201107/2/0/3/204302/cuts/starship_480_poster.jpg)
I know that the British forces in the Middle East shower male and female together.
HA! You've obviously never had to use a gas station bathroom in the middle of nowhere in Tijuana Mexico!
Trust me. I learned to pee standing up PRETTY FAST! ;D
Actually I think "family bathrooms" are great ideas.
What does a father do when he has to take his little girl to the bathroom?
I've seen many little girls pee their pants while their fathers tried to wait for all the women to leave the ladies room before he could enter. It never happens. Women are always going in as others are coming out. Many fathers don't want to be bringing their little girls into the Men's room with them. The same with women and their sons. No child should have to risk a burst bladder, and I don't think a parent should have to send their child into a rest room alone. Parents should be able to supervise their kids in a public restroom. I have no problem with an additional "family bathroom" as long as it is not the only facility available in lieu of separate Males & Female restrooms.
That dad is stupid... You take your little girl to the Men's room.
Guys don't just stand around swinging their dicks in the bathroom... You can take a girl to a stall and sit her on the toilet like anywhere... Very rarely is there no Door or something and if there is, it's usually not near a Urinal.
Sounds like some stupid fathers out there.
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I know that the British forces in the Middle East shower male and female together.
I seriously doubt that's a matter of regulation. Please feel free to prove otherwise lol...
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Guys don't just stand around swinging their dicks in the bathroom...
Someone shudda told George Michael before he... :-X
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I seriously doubt that's a matter of regulation. Please feel free to prove otherwise lol...
Only know what I saw when I was a civilian contractor back in the day... They liked to play grab the tallywacker too... Really weird crew.
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something about the image of Jag standing to piss in a Mexican shithole.... mmm... yea.... :-X just not right.
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Only know what I saw when I was a civilian contractor back in the day... They liked to play grab the tallywacker too... Really weird crew.
oh yea, I know the play that went on in my day but it sure in the fuck wasn't regulation lol... and I doubt it was for the brits either.
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oh yea, I know the play that went on in my day but it sure in the fuck wasn't regulation lol... and I doubt it was for the brits either.
Well obviously I don't have any insight as to the regulations.
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Well obviously I don't have any insight as to the regulations.
appologies... I thought you were suggesting it was approved.
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appologies... I thought you were suggesting it was approved..
I can not say as to whether it is or isn't... I just saw chicks showering with dudes... The US troops weren't doing the same thing.
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Very valid... I don't have any numbers, but I truly haven't heard about bathroom beat downs over a transgendered person using the bathroom.
I thought if you were labeling yourself as a woman that you would just use the women's bathroom anyway... Isn't that what you are doing when you say "I'm a whatever."?
Seems much ado about nothing.
Was there some issue with a tranny going to the women's room all of a sudden?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you go to the women's room, especially in the US, you have a stall or a door and you have to sit anyway so how would anyone even really know.
If you're a woman, you can't really pee standing up, so again, you have to use a stall.
It's as bad as "family bathrooms".
They didn't have that shit when I was a kid either.
"family bathrooms"?..wow..didn't know they existed
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Family bathrooms are usually just used for a mother to go in and change a baby's diaper in private. That's a corporate choice not something that was forced on them as far as I know. If I'm wrong let me know.
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Family bathrooms are usually just used for a mother to go in and change a baby's diaper in private. That's a corporate choice not something that was forced on them as far as I know. If I'm wrong let me know.
I see them all of the time... Pools. Gyms. Malls.
It's like a 3rd option and it's for Mothers or Fathers to go in with their kids.
I still don't see the point for the most part.
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Family bathrooms are usually just used for a mother to go in and change a baby's diaper in private. That's a corporate choice not something that was forced on them as far as I know. If I'm wrong let me know.
Can't vouch for the USA, but up here in Canada, most female restrooms already have a private baby change station where a Mom can change a diaper in private.
Family bathrooms are just that, ...a bathroom that all the members of the family can use, instead of them splitting up, and Mom taking the girls, while Dad takes the boys. They call all go together, ...or one parent can take all the kids regardless of their genders.
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Only know what I saw when I was a civilian contractor back in the day... They liked to play grab the tallywacker too... Really weird crew.
I must be immature, because that cracked me up!!!
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Transgenders are assaulted and murdered all the time...its does happen....sure theres no national outcry or publicity about it but it does happen....all Im doing is telling you what the thinking is of the politicians and law-makers who allow transgenders to use female restrooms and to be placed in female homeless shelters....
I know you guys hate to agree with me on anything but lets not twist the issue out of proportion..I simply stated what the frame of mind is of the above and I said I opposed it ...what more do you want?
take it easy...THINK
how often is "all the time" andre?
you make these wild ass claims like transgendered individual being killed in bathrooms and then never ever produce any facts, just like you did with the "assault weapons" argument. Youve been proven wrong on almost everything youve said in regards to that.
Why should everyone else be inconvienenced for less than 1% of the population?
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how often is "all the time" andre?
you make these wild ass claims like transgendered individual being killed in bathrooms and then never ever produce any facts, just like you did with the "assault weapons" argument. Youve been proven wrong on almost everything youve said in regards to that.
Why should everyone else be inconvienenced for less than 1% of the population?
oh brother...proven wrong???...by who exactly?..certainly not by you....murders and assaults on gays and transgendered happen all the time in that it does occur with such frequency that in NY city there is a policy that transgenders MUST be placed in WOMEN's shelters because they would be in mortal danger in men's shelters....same goes as to why they are separated in jails......this is New York's policy...not mine.......obviously these things have happened and the city is worried about safety and lawsuits so why do you have such a bug up your ass?...assault weapons have nothing to do with what we are talking about here....I 've stated my opposition to such policies...can you read???
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oh brother...proven wrong???...by who exactly?..certainly not by you....murders and assaults on gays and transgendered happen all the time in that it does occur with such frequency that in NY city there is a policy that transgenders MUST be placed in WOMEN's shelters because they would be in mortal danger in men's shelters....same goes as to why they are separated in jails......this is New York's policy...not mine.......obviously these things have happened and the city is worried about safety and lawsuits so why do you have such a bug up your ass?...assault weapons have nothing to do with what we are talking about here....I 've stated my opposition to such policies...can you read???
if they happen so often you should be able to give us a number there andre, so how many are killed annually?
the assault weapons topic is relevant b/c it shows your pattern of making assertions with no back up and no proof. Youve been proven wrong on almost everything youve said in regards to that topic by everyone yes myself included.
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There are already laws against assault.
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Transgenders are assaulted and murdered all the time...its does happen....sure theres no national outcry or publicity about it but it does happen....all Im doing is telling you what the thinking is of the politicians and law-makers who allow transgenders to use female restrooms and to be placed in female homeless shelters....
I know you guys hate to agree with me on anything but lets not twist the issue out of proportion..I simply stated what the frame of mind is of the above and I said I opposed it ...what more do you want?
take it easy...THINK
Of course they get assaulted and murdered!!
What would you do if you thought you were getting lucky and then suddenly found out she has a dick ???
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if they happen so often you should be able to give us a number there andre, so how many are killed annually?
the assault weapons topic is relevant b/c it shows your pattern of making assertions with no back up and no proof. Youve been proven wrong on almost everything youve said in regards to that topic by everyone yes myself included.
it is the assertion of NY city and the government....accept that and move on....if I had it my way we would judt leave things the way they are....as for your assertion that I was proven wrong concerning the assault weapons thing, the thousands of deaths and suicides every year from guns proves my point.....what you say to diverge from the issue doesn't matter
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it is the assertion of NY city and the government....accept that and move on....if I had it my way we would judt leave things the way they are....as for your assertion that I was proven wrong concerning the assault weapons thing, the thousands of deaths and suicides every year from guns proves my point.....what you say to diverge from the issue doesn't matter
End black on black gun violence by disarming whites.
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it is the assertion of NY city and the government....accept that and move on....if I had it my way we would judt leave things the way they are....as for your assertion that I was proven wrong concerning the assault weapons thing, the thousands of deaths and suicides every year from guns proves my point.....what you say to diverge from the issue doesn't matter
LOL that doesnt justify the idiocy being proposed andre, you keep asserting that transgendered are murdered enough to justify this idiocy.
not every state does that so that argues for the opposite, now please tell us how many transgendered ppl are killed a year as a result of them being transgendered.
LMFAO the thousands of deaths that arent related to assault weapons?
you know you have a .003% chance of being killed with a gun, thats all guns not just assault weapons...youve been proven wrong time and time again dumb ass
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Very valid... I don't have any numbers, but I truly haven't heard about bathroom beat downs over a transgendered person using the bathroom.
I thought if you were labeling yourself as a woman that you would just use the women's bathroom anyway... Isn't that what you are doing when you say "I'm a whatever."?
Seems much ado about nothing.
Was there some issue with a tranny going to the women's room all of a sudden?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you go to the women's room, especially in the US, you have a stall or a door and you have to sit anyway so how would anyone even really know.
If you're a woman, you can't really pee standing up, so again, you have to use a stall.
It's as bad as "family bathrooms".
They didn't have that shit when I was a kid either.
Oh, I'm sure it happens but no-way it's all the time or commonplace like Andre is trying to portray or I would've heard and seen it much more. I'd have to agree with you on the bathrooms, but not changing/locker rooms.
I'm not big on some kid claiming he's Trans and in the locker room with my girl changing. In High School, I would have no problem with lying out my ass just to get into that locker room.
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LOL that doesnt justify the idiocy being proposed andre, you keep asserting that transgendered are murdered enough to justify this idiocy.
not every state does that so that argues for the opposite, now please tell us how many transgendered ppl are killed a year as a result of them being transgendered.
LMFAO the thousands of deaths that arent related to assault weapons?
you know you have a .003% chance of being killed with a gun, thats all guns not just assault weapons...youve been proven wrong time and time again dumb ass
Andre? Facts? Bahahahaahha.
Anyway, I typed transgender murders into Google. According to Advocate.com there 13 murders of transgenders in 2012 in the United States.
Don't know the validity of the site or data, but it wouldn't surprise me if that's about accurate. I would further doubt if most occurred in a school bathroom.
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End black on black gun violence by disarming whites.
a whole lot of white men are killing their wives as well ...and themselves with guns every year...not to mention all the accidental gun violence..by the way...you didn't start a thread on the Pistorius murder....I wonder why??? ::) ::) ::)
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a whole lot of white men are killing their wives as well ...and themselves with guns every year...not to mention all the accidental gun violence..by the way...you didn't start a thread on the Pistorius murder....I wonder why??? ::) ::) ::)
all pale in comparison to the black on black gun violence not to mention assaults that take place. libtards always trying to draw moral equivilents to justify their stances.
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LOL that doesnt justify the idiocy being proposed andre, you keep asserting that transgendered are murdered enough to justify this idiocy.
not every state does that so that argues for the opposite, now please tell us how many transgendered ppl are killed a year as a result of them being transgendered.
LMFAO the thousands of deaths that arent related to assault weapons?
you know you have a .003% chance of being killed with a gun, thats all guns not just assault weapons...youve been proven wrong time and time again dumb ass
I guess you didn't get the memo about calling people names you idiot canadian fag....you are citing stats and percentages and we are talking about people's LIVES.......thousands upon thousands every year...and you want to spout off stats......again you can't get around the fact that in Japan and England there are usually fewer than 100 gun deaths every year, yet thousands in the U.S....if you can't see that there is something wrong with this picture then you are absolutely nuts..lets leave it at that
as for the transgender issue I was taking a devil's advocate position just putting out both sides...I stated my oppostion many times.....if you can't figure that out then again you are nuts
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all pale in comparison to the black on black gun violence not to mention assaults that take place. libtards always trying to draw moral equivilents to justify their stances.
This I will agree with.....but again why are you so stuck on blaming liberals for everything???...Breaking down things by race doesn't solve anything...we are all supposed to be Americans.....well except you
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I guess you didn't get the memo about calling people names you idiot canadian fag....you are citing stats and percentages and we are talking about people's LIVES.......thousands upon thousands every year...and you want to spout off stats......again you can't get around the fact that in Japan and England there are usually fewer than 100 gun deaths every year, yet thousands in the U.S....if you can't see that there is something wrong with this picture then you are absolutely nuts..lets leave it at that
as for the transgender issue I was taking a devil's advocate position just putting out both sides...I stated my oppostion many times.....if you can't figure that out then again you are nuts
Im not canadian you dumb ass...
you cant deny that mexico, brazil and a host of other countries INCLUDING THE US have strict gun laws or even bans and still have more murders than the US with guns.....
Im asking you as taking the idiotic devils advocate position to back up your claim, which you havent done once in regards to anything.
PS weve had an assault weapons/high cap mag ban before...then we had columbine during it...
we have gun free zones already as well they are called schools where these massacres take place. What makes you think turning the entire country into a gun free zone will make a difference?
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This I will agree with.....but again why are you so stuck on blaming liberals for everything???...Breaking down things by race doesn't solve anything...we are all supposed to be Americans.....well except you
Yes it does solve everything since most crimes are committed by your peeps in ghettos
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This I will agree with.....but again why are you so stuck on blaming liberals for everything???...Breaking down things by race doesn't solve anything...we are all supposed to be Americans.....well except you
Im not blaming liberals for the black on black crime although their policies have been proven to be bad for minorities.
The blame is solely on the black community and their values, priorities and culture.
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Im not canadian you dumb ass...
you cant deny that mexico, brazil and a host of other countries INCLUDING THE US have strict gun laws or even bans and still have more murders than the US with guns.....
Im asking you as taking the idiotic devils advocate position to back up your claim, which you havent done once in regards to anything.
PS weve had an assault weapons/high cap mag ban before...then we had columbine during it...
we have gun free zones already as well they are called schools where these massacres take place. What makes you think turning the entire country into a gun free zone will make a difference?
because we don't TRULY have a true gun ban...we are schizophrenic on this issue...we still have many gun manufacturers, dealers, etc that flout the laws or are not subject to them.....in NY city for example the vast majority of guns used in crimes come from Virginia...we need a uniform federal law which retricts the license, sale, and possesion of guns.....also gun owners should have to renew their licenses and prove that they can shoot as well
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because we don't TRULY have a true gun ban...we are schizophrenic on this issue...we still have many gun manufacturers, dealers, etc that flout the laws or are not subject to them.....in NY city for example the vast majority of guns used in crimes come from Virginia...we need a uniform federal law which retricts the license, sale, and possesion of guns.....also gun owners should have to renew their licenses and prove that they can shoot as well
more bullshit, what gun companies flout the laws?
we already have federal laws that restrict the sale and possesion of fire arms brainchild....
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more bullshit, what gun companies flout the laws?
we already have federal laws that restrict the sale and possesion of fire arms brainchild....
uh huh,,,thats why people can walk into gun shows all over the U.S. and buy guns without background or mental health checks......
Keep dreaming
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uh huh,,,thats why people can walk into gun shows all over the U.S. and buy guns without background or mental health checks......
Keep dreaming
94 please.
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uh huh,,,thats why people can walk into gun shows all over the U.S. and buy guns without background or mental health checks......
Keep dreaming
indeed sir, guess what thats not where the majority of criminals get their guns...
they get them from stealing from law abiding citizens.
how is a law going to change that, should make ban stealing again?
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indeed sir, guess what thats not where the majority of criminals get their guns...
they get them from stealing from law abiding citizens.
how is a law going to change that, should make ban stealing again?
thats the whole point, sherlock.......people buy tons of guns with no background check and then get to pass them on to anyone they like....I'm sure very few are stolen.......but they re-sell them or give them to someone and they often wind up in the inner city.....
keep trying
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94 please.
I guess you would call Asians 75 ers, and hispanics 70 ers and whites 41 ers...they all voted for Obama as well....dumbass
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Of course they get assaulted and murdered!!
What would you do if you thought you were getting lucky and then suddenly found out she has a dick ???
Maybe you should ask Shawn Ray? :-X
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Good Grief, y'all need to calm the heck down?
How did a simple post about Massachusetts allowing transgenders to choose their restroom of choice turn into a stupid bickering contest about guns & black on black crime? Good grief! Are you all on your periods or something?
And André, what the heck is wrong with being Canadian? >:( Sheesh!
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Of course they get assaulted and murdered!!
What would you do if you thought you were getting lucky and then suddenly found out she has a dick ???
YEP
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Good Grief, y'all need to calm the heck down?
How did a simple post about Massachusetts allowing transgenders to choose their restroom of choice turn into a stupid bickering contest about guns & black on black crime? Good grief! Are you all on your periods or something?
And André, what the heck is wrong with being Canadian? >:( Sheesh!
good point...its because guys on here like Tommy and 3333 have to turn everything into a race issue when they get owned....thats always their fallback position
as for the canadian reference...I went too far...A BIG SORRY TO YOU :-\...however, I still stand by my comments about him being a fag :)
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good point...its because guys on here like Tommy and 3333 have to turn everything into a race issue when they get owned....thats always their fallback position
as for the canadian reference...I went too far...A BIG SORRY TO YOU :-\...however, I still stand by my comments about him being a fag :)
::)
You are more racist than I am
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good point...its because guys on here like Tommy and 3333 have to turn everything into a race issue when they get owned....thats always their fallback position
as for the canadian reference...I went too far...A BIG SORRY TO YOU :-\...however, I still stand by my comments about him being a fag :)
Lol
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good point...its because guys on here like Tommy and 3333 have to turn everything into a race issue when they get owned....thats always their fallback position
as for the canadian reference...I went too far...A BIG SORRY TO YOU :-\...however, I still stand by my comments about him being a fag :)
Apology accepted. :-*
...but I have to ask you... what is your problem with him being gay?
Doesn't that leave more women for you?
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thats the whole point, sherlock.......people buy tons of guns with no background check and then get to pass them on to anyone they like....I'm sure very few are stolen.......but they re-sell them or give them to someone and they often wind up in the inner city.....
keep trying
Holy crap you're so woefully ignorant on the subject it's not even funny the majority of guns used in criminal activity are not bought at gun shows they are stolen from law abiding citizens
Do some freaking research
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Maybe you should ask Shawn Ray? :-X
is that old story true about what happened to Shawn?
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Holy crap you're so woefully ignorant on the subject it's not even funny the majority of guns used in criminal activity are not bought at gun shows they are stolen from law abiding citizens
Do some freaking research
read my post you freaking goddamn idiot......I never said the majority of guns used in illegality were bought at gun shows...I said they ARE often passed on or sold to others for profit and wind up being used for illegal activity.....my fag comment about you is becoming more relevant by the minute
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is that old story true about what happened to Shawn?
:-X
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Yes it does solve everything since most crimes are committed by your peeps in ghettos
;D
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;D
you're actually laughing at him as well...3333 lives in the Bronx.....only a few blocks from me...so I guess he's one of the ghetto peeps he's talking about?
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California Gov. Brown signs transgender-student bill
Published August 12, 2013
Associated Press
California has become the first state to enshrine certain rights for transgender K-12 students in state law, requiring public schools to allow those students access to whichever restroom and locker room they want.
Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown announced Monday that he had signed AB1266. The new law gives students the right "to participate in sex-segregated programs, activities and facilities" based on their self-perception and regardless of their birth gender.
Supporters said the law will help reduce bullying against transgender students. It comes as the families of transgender students have been waging local battles with school districts around the country over what restrooms and locker rooms their children can use.
Detractors said allowing students of one gender to use facilities intended for the other could invade the other students' privacy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/12/california-gov-brown-signs-transgender-student-bill/#ixzz2bnJEruff
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people ... move to Texas ... we don't put up with that kind of bullshit. Tough shit to the sexually confused ... boy to the men's room ... girls to the women's room, period. you want a gun ... more power to you ... someone steals your stuff ... shoot em ... you get attacked from an ashtray martin type ... shoot em ... to the liberals, tough shit. Not sensitive enough, well tough shit to you. MASS is broke, more than 15 billion in debt ... Texas, we have cash on hand friend, we pay our bills. Our governor confronted a coyote while exercising ... tough shit for the animal, bullet goes in head.
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California Gov. Brown signs transgender-student bill
Published August 12, 2013
Associated Press
California has become the first state to enshrine certain rights for transgender K-12 students in state law, requiring public schools to allow those students access to whichever restroom and locker room they want.
Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown announced Monday that he had signed AB1266. The new law gives students the right "to participate in sex-segregated programs, activities and facilities" based on their self-perception and regardless of their birth gender.
Supporters said the law will help reduce bullying against transgender students. It comes as the families of transgender students have been waging local battles with school districts around the country over what restrooms and locker rooms their children can use.
Detractors said allowing students of one gender to use facilities intended for the other could invade the other students' privacy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/12/california-gov-brown-signs-transgender-student-bill/#ixzz2bnJEruff
hmmm, I seem to remember somebody saying this was going to happen and being ridiculed by the libtard lefties....
what say you now libtard lefties?